Virtualisation of a w2k3 server

[lyj_e1]

Hi,

We have a w2k3 std member server (ML370 G5, 2Gb RAM) on a domain network. We
are looking into utilising virtualisation to install a terminal server on the
network.

My questions are:

1. Can it be done?
2. If so, can someone be kind enough to point me in the right direction
please?

Thank you in advance,

Lyj

 

[Meinolf Weber]

Re: Virtualisation of a w2k3 server

Hello lyj_e1,

Will you create a VM from that server or install the VM on that server?

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> Hi,
>
> We have a w2k3 std member server (ML370 G5, 2Gb RAM) on a domain
> network. We are looking into utilising virtualisation to install a
> terminal server on the network.
>
> My questions are:
>
> 1. Can it be done?
> 2. If so, can someone be kind enough to point me in the right
> direction
> please?
> Thank you in advance,
>
> Lyj
>

 

[lyj_e1]

Re: Virtualisation of a w2k3 server

Hi,

We are thinking of installing the VM on the w2k3 server to save on buying
another server just to do the terminal services. Am I right in thinking I
need to install VMware Server software then say Windows 2008 std and then
terminal server?

Thanks,

Lyj

"Meinolf Weber" wrote:

> Hello lyj_e1,
>
> Will you create a VM from that server or install the VM on that server?
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
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>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > We have a w2k3 std member server (ML370 G5, 2Gb RAM) on a domain
> > network. We are looking into utilising virtualisation to install a
> > terminal server on the network.
> >
> > My questions are:
> >
> > 1. Can it be done?
> > 2. If so, can someone be kind enough to point me in the right
> > direction
> > please?
> > Thank you in advance,
> >
> > Lyj
> >
>
>
>

 

[Meinolf Weber]

Re: Virtualisation of a w2k3 server

Hello lyj_e1,

Basically yes, you can also use Virtual server from MS.

What hardware specification does the server have?

What functions/roles does the running server have and how will you connect
the users?

How many user shoudl work on it?

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> Hi,
>
> We are thinking of installing the VM on the w2k3 server to save on
> buying another server just to do the terminal services. Am I right in
> thinking I need to install VMware Server software then say Windows
> 2008 std and then terminal server?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lyj
>
> "Meinolf Weber" wrote:
>
>> Hello lyj_e1,
>>
>> Will you create a VM from that server or install the VM on that
>> server?
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers
>> no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> We have a w2k3 std member server (ML370 G5, 2Gb RAM) on a domain
>>> network. We are looking into utilising virtualisation to install a
>>> terminal server on the network.
>>>
>>> My questions are:
>>>
>>> 1. Can it be done?
>>> 2. If so, can someone be kind enough to point me in the right
>>> direction
>>> please?
>>> Thank you in advance,
>>> Lyj
>>>

 

[lyj_e1]

Re: Virtualisation of a w2k3 server

Hi,

Which VM software is better to use, Microsoft or VM?

The server is about a year old, HP ML370 G5 quad xeon with 2Gb ram. We will
need to bump this up to say 6Gb?

There will only be a maximum of 5 users who will use it to access Sage CRM
which is what the physical server currently does. The five sales reps will
partly access the Sage using a remote SSL VPN link into the terminal server
from home.

Thanks for your help.

Lyj

"Meinolf Weber" wrote:

> Hello lyj_e1,
>
> Basically yes, you can also use Virtual server from MS.
>
> What hardware specification does the server have?
>
> What functions/roles does the running server have and how will you connect
> the users?
>
> How many user shoudl work on it?
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > We are thinking of installing the VM on the w2k3 server to save on
> > buying another server just to do the terminal services. Am I right in
> > thinking I need to install VMware Server software then say Windows
> > 2008 std and then terminal server?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Lyj
> >
> > "Meinolf Weber" wrote:
> >
> >> Hello lyj_e1,
> >>
> >> Will you create a VM from that server or install the VM on that
> >> server?
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >>
> >> Meinolf Weber
> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> >> confers
> >> no rights.
> >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> We have a w2k3 std member server (ML370 G5, 2Gb RAM) on a domain
> >>> network. We are looking into utilising virtualisation to install a
> >>> terminal server on the network.
> >>>
> >>> My questions are:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Can it be done?
> >>> 2. If so, can someone be kind enough to point me in the right
> >>> direction
> >>> please?
> >>> Thank you in advance,
> >>> Lyj
> >>>
>
>
>

 

[Meinolf Weber]

Re: Virtualisation of a w2k3 server

Hello lyj_e1,

RAM is always needed when running VM's. Personally i use Virtual server but
both solutions are good. With this small amount of users it shouldn't be
a problem i think.

To have maybe some other suggestions i would also post to:
microsoft.public.virtualserver
microsoft.public.virtualpc

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> Hi,
>
> Which VM software is better to use, Microsoft or VM?
>
> The server is about a year old, HP ML370 G5 quad xeon with 2Gb ram. We
> will need to bump this up to say 6Gb?
>
> There will only be a maximum of 5 users who will use it to access Sage
> CRM which is what the physical server currently does. The five sales
> reps will partly access the Sage using a remote SSL VPN link into the
> terminal server from home.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Lyj
>
> "Meinolf Weber" wrote:
>
>> Hello lyj_e1,
>>
>> Basically yes, you can also use Virtual server from MS.
>>
>> What hardware specification does the server have?
>>
>> What functions/roles does the running server have and how will you
>> connect the users?
>>
>> How many user shoudl work on it?
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers
>> no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> We are thinking of installing the VM on the w2k3 server to save on
>>> buying another server just to do the terminal services. Am I right
>>> in thinking I need to install VMware Server software then say
>>> Windows 2008 std and then terminal server?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Lyj
>>>
>>> "Meinolf Weber" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello lyj_e1,
>>>>
>>>> Will you create a VM from that server or install the VM on that
>>>> server?
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>>
>>>> Meinolf Weber
>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>>>> and
>>>> confers
>>>> no rights.
>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> We have a w2k3 std member server (ML370 G5, 2Gb RAM) on a domain
>>>>> network. We are looking into utilising virtualisation to install a
>>>>> terminal server on the network.
>>>>>
>>>>> My questions are:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Can it be done?
>>>>> 2. If so, can someone be kind enough to point me in the right
>>>>> direction
>>>>> please?
>>>>> Thank you in advance,
>>>>> Lyj

 

[lyj_e1]

Re: Virtualisation of a w2k3 server

Again thank you for your help.

Lyj

"Meinolf Weber" wrote:

> Hello lyj_e1,
>
> RAM is always needed when running VM's. Personally i use Virtual server but
> both solutions are good. With this small amount of users it shouldn't be
> a problem i think.
>
> To have maybe some other suggestions i would also post to:
> microsoft.public.virtualserver
> microsoft.public.virtualpc
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Which VM software is better to use, Microsoft or VM?
> >
> > The server is about a year old, HP ML370 G5 quad xeon with 2Gb ram. We
> > will need to bump this up to say 6Gb?
> >
> > There will only be a maximum of 5 users who will use it to access Sage
> > CRM which is what the physical server currently does. The five sales
> > reps will partly access the Sage using a remote SSL VPN link into the
> > terminal server from home.
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> > Lyj
> >
> > "Meinolf Weber" wrote:
> >
> >> Hello lyj_e1,
> >>
> >> Basically yes, you can also use Virtual server from MS.
> >>
> >> What hardware specification does the server have?
> >>
> >> What functions/roles does the running server have and how will you
> >> connect the users?
> >>
> >> How many user shoudl work on it?
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >>
> >> Meinolf Weber
> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> >> confers
> >> no rights.
> >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> We are thinking of installing the VM on the w2k3 server to save on
> >>> buying another server just to do the terminal services. Am I right
> >>> in thinking I need to install VMware Server software then say
> >>> Windows 2008 std and then terminal server?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Lyj
> >>>
> >>> "Meinolf Weber" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hello lyj_e1,
> >>>>
> >>>> Will you create a VM from that server or install the VM on that
> >>>> server?
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards
> >>>>
> >>>> Meinolf Weber
> >>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
> >>>> and
> >>>> confers
> >>>> no rights.
> >>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> >>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We have a w2k3 std member server (ML370 G5, 2Gb RAM) on a domain
> >>>>> network. We are looking into utilising virtualisation to install a
> >>>>> terminal server on the network.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My questions are:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1. Can it be done?
> >>>>> 2. If so, can someone be kind enough to point me in the right
> >>>>> direction
> >>>>> please?
> >>>>> Thank you in advance,
> >>>>> Lyj
>
>
>

 

[homerd@centrel-solutions.com]

Re: Virtualisation of a w2k3 server

Hello,

I think VMWare GSX and Virtual Server are both good, you won't be able
to use ESX Server as this has its own OS (and costs money) so you'd
have to lose the underlying Operating System. Just be aware that
Microsoft Virtual Server only supports 32bit guest Operating Systems.

You mention upgrading to 6gb RAM this wont be possible as you are
running Windows Standard which has a max RAM of 4gb
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc758523.aspx.

You will also need to buy a server licence for the Windows 2003
operating system you install onto the Virtual Machine.



Thanks,


http://www.centrel-solutions.com

 

[lyj_e1]

Re: Virtualisation of a w2k3 server

Hi,

You are right, thanks for the tips. 4Gb is the max I can upgrade to.

Am I right I can use the free VMware server software, along with purchased
licenses for w2k3 R2 std and then terminal server on top?

Thanks,

Lyj

"homerd@centrel-solutions.com" wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I think VMWare GSX and Virtual Server are both good, you won't be able
> to use ESX Server as this has its own OS (and costs money) so you'd
> have to lose the underlying Operating System. Just be aware that
> Microsoft Virtual Server only supports 32bit guest Operating Systems.
>
> You mention upgrading to 6gb RAM this wont be possible as you are
> running Windows Standard which has a max RAM of 4gb
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc758523.aspx.
>
> You will also need to buy a server licence for the Windows 2003
> operating system you install onto the Virtual Machine.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> http://www.centrel-solutions.com
>
>

 

[David]

Re: Virtualisation of a w2k3 server

Hi,

VMWare Server is free and can be installed ontop of this Server into
which you can then install Windows 2003 Standard (which you have to
buy) and then configure it for Terminal Services (which you will have
to activate and purchase Terminal Services licences for also).

Perhaps you could consider installing Terminal Services onto the
existing Server directly? Or is there security concerns about this?

 

[Bill Grant]

Re: Virtualisation of a w2k3 server



"David" <homerd@centrel-solutions.com> wrote in message
news:93061618-11a9-4428-861c-6e6570499c81@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
> Hi,
>
> VMWare Server is free and can be installed ontop of this Server into
> which you can then install Windows 2003 Standard (which you have to
> buy) and then configure it for Terminal Services (which you will have
> to activate and purchase Terminal Services licences for also).
>
> Perhaps you could consider installing Terminal Services onto the
> existing Server directly? Or is there security concerns about this?

I agree, David. Virtualization is fine, but it doesn't seem the best
solution here.