Rebooting a Vista laptop crashes domain controller!

[Qu0ll]

I am not sure if this is a Vista problem or a W2K3 problem so please forgive
the cross post.

I have a laptop running Vista SP1 and a domain controller running Server
2003. Everything works just fine until I reboot the laptop at which point
the server freezes completely and needs to be rebooted brutally. There are
no relevant or interesting events in the event logs of either machine and in
fact the laptop goes on functioning normally with no apparent problems
(except of course that it can't access files on the server etc.) after such
an event.

This is new behaviour for about a month now and was not apparent before
then. There have been numerous changes (updates, app installs etc.) on the
laptop but none whatsoever on the server.

What could possibly be causing this?

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[Meinolf Weber]

Re: Rebooting a Vista laptop crashes domain controller!

Hello Qu0ll,

Never heard that rebooting a laptop crashes a server. Check the event log's
of the server for errors.

Best regards

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> I am not sure if this is a Vista problem or a W2K3 problem so please
> forgive the cross post.
>
> I have a laptop running Vista SP1 and a domain controller running
> Server 2003. Everything works just fine until I reboot the laptop at
> which point the server freezes completely and needs to be rebooted
> brutally. There are no relevant or interesting events in the event
> logs of either machine and in fact the laptop goes on functioning
> normally with no apparent problems (except of course that it can't
> access files on the server etc.) after such an event.
>
> This is new behaviour for about a month now and was not apparent
> before then. There have been numerous changes (updates, app installs
> etc.) on the laptop but none whatsoever on the server.
>
> What could possibly be causing this?
>
> -Qu0ll (Rare, not extinct)
> _________________________________________________
> Qu0llSixFour@gmail.com
> [Replace the "SixFour" with numbers to email me]

 

[Qu0ll]

Re: Rebooting a Vista laptop crashes domain controller!

"Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> Hello Qu0ll,
>
> Never heard that rebooting a laptop crashes a server. Check the event
> log's of the server for errors.

As I stated in my post, there are no events of any interest in the server's
event logs in relation to this problem.

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[Hank Arnold (MVP)]

Re: Rebooting a Vista laptop crashes domain controller!

Qu0ll wrote:
> "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:ff16fb667e178caeb6b062f7702@msnews.microsoft.com...
>
>> Hello Qu0ll,
>>
>> Never heard that rebooting a laptop crashes a server. Check the event
>> log's of the server for errors.
>
> As I stated in my post, there are no events of any interest in the
> server's event logs in relation to this problem.
>

What about the laptop's event logs?

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Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services

 

[Ace Fekay [MVP Directory Services]]

Re: Rebooting a Vista laptop crashes domain controller!

"Qu0ll" <Qu0llSixFour@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:ff16fb667e178caeb6b062f7702@msnews.microsoft.com...
>
>> Hello Qu0ll,
>>
>> Never heard that rebooting a laptop crashes a server. Check the event
>> log's of the server for errors.
>
> As I stated in my post, there are no events of any interest in the
> server's event logs in relation to this problem.
>

In conjunction with Hank's question, you can run a packet capture to find
out exactly what type of traffic is eminating from the Vista box that would
crash a specific domain controller (which I've never heard of). Look at the
ports to figure out what the app is, or if it is something else such as
malware, etc.

Do you have more than one DC? If so, do they 'crash' as well?

Any GPOs with software distribution, WSUS, etc?

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[Brian Cryer]

Re: Rebooting a Vista laptop crashes domain controller!

"Qu0ll" <Qu0llSixFour@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OGvwJGTHJHA.3504@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I am not sure if this is a Vista problem or a W2K3 problem so please
>forgive
> the cross post.
>
> I have a laptop running Vista SP1 and a domain controller running Server
> 2003. Everything works just fine until I reboot the laptop at which point
> the server freezes completely and needs to be rebooted brutally. There
> are
> no relevant or interesting events in the event logs of either machine and
> in
> fact the laptop goes on functioning normally with no apparent problems
> (except of course that it can't access files on the server etc.) after
> such
> an event.
>
> This is new behaviour for about a month now and was not apparent before
> then. There have been numerous changes (updates, app installs etc.) on
> the
> laptop but none whatsoever on the server.
>
> What could possibly be causing this?

No idea, but a few things to look at:

1. Does the server have any session open on the laptop? I know its common
the other way round, but I'm wondering whether the server has a reliance on
this laptop. Start a command prompt on the laptop (in administrator mode)
and type "net session" to see what sessions other machines have established
to the the laptop, I wouldn't expect to see any.

2. Does the server crash if you disconnect the laptop? i.e. if you simply
unplug it from the network or disable wireless (as appropriate)? If the
server stays up then I assume a shutdown of the laptop leaves the server
fine?

3. I *think* (but not so sure here) that on Vista you may be able to set
tasks to run when you disconnect a session, its possible (but quite
unlikely) that there is something in task manager which is causing this.

4. Do you run any software on your laptop and server which communicate with
each other? (Other than what comes out of the box using Windows.)

5. Are both the server and laptop running with up to date anti-virus and
patches from microsoft?

6. On the server try updating the driver for the network card. You may need
to go to the manufacturer's website rather than relying on microsoft update.

Hopefully an answer to one of the above might generate some ideas.
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[Brian Cryer]

Re: Rebooting a Vista laptop crashes domain controller!

"Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Qu0ll wrote:
>> "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
>> news:ff16fb667e178caeb6b062f7702@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>
>>> Hello Qu0ll,
>>>
>>> Never heard that rebooting a laptop crashes a server. Check the event
>>> log's of the server for errors.
>>
>> As I stated in my post, there are no events of any interest in the
>> server's event logs in relation to this problem.
>
> What about the laptop's event logs?

Did you skip your morning cup of coffee? (grin)
In the original post the OP stated:

"There are no relevant or interesting events in the event logs of either
machine."

Shame because its otherwise always a good place to start.
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