Home directiories and folder redirection

[Phil]

hope someone can enlighten me here as i'm quite new to Terminal servers

Is rootdrv2.cmd still valid in Citrix. If so do you still have to set it on
every TS. I thought that TS home drive Group policy setting would now be the
preferred opion.

Leading on with the next question

If users have their home drives mapped in ADUC say to H drive, is there a
point in setting up TS home drive as the users would surely have 2 locations
to keep their documents in??.
My take is if they used pure TS then use the TS home drive
If I mixture of 2 then Bothe ADUC home drives and TS Home drives but
redirect theTS Home drive to the Users Home Directory

Finally AppData - do you redirect it or not?? When would and wouldn't you?

I am trying to figure out the best way but am confusing myself.. Help..

 

[Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]]

Re: Home directiories and folder redirection

Phil <Phil@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> hope someone can enlighten me here as i'm quite new to Terminal
> servers
>
> Is rootdrv2.cmd still valid in Citrix. If so do you still have to
> set it on every TS. I thought that TS home drive Group policy
> setting would now be the preferred opion.

I'm not a Citrix person, so I don't know, sorry.
>
> Leading on with the next question
>
> If users have their home drives mapped in ADUC say to H drive, is
> there a point in setting up TS home drive as the users would surely
> have 2 locations to keep their documents in??.

If you use folder redirection it doesn't matter if you have a home directory
set at all. I don't use them anymore.

See "How to dynamically create security-enhanced redirected folders by using
folder redirection in Windows 2000 and in Windows Server 2003"

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/274443


> My take is if they used pure TS then use the TS home drive
> If I mixture of 2 then Bothe ADUC home drives and TS Home drives but
> redirect theTS Home drive to the Users Home Directory

Well, they could both point to the same place, but as mentioned, I don't see
much point in using home directories anymore. You can still map a drive to
the user's folder in the login script (e.g., net use h:
"\\server\home$\%username%\My Documents" /persistent:no )
>
> Finally AppData - do you redirect it or not?? When would and
> wouldn't you?

I do, always, unless the user has a laptop. Same with desktop.
>
> I am trying to figure out the best way but am confusing myself..
> Help..

Hope this helps somewhat. Sorry I don't know Citrix.

 

[Patrick Rouse]

Re: Home directiories and folder redirection

Typically no need to set the root drive. I haven't done this since NT4 TSE.


--
Patrick C. Rouse
Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
Systems Consultant
Quest Software, Provision Networks Division
Virtual Client Solutions
http://www.provisionnetworks.com


"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:

> Phil <Phil@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > hope someone can enlighten me here as i'm quite new to Terminal
> > servers
> >
> > Is rootdrv2.cmd still valid in Citrix. If so do you still have to
> > set it on every TS. I thought that TS home drive Group policy
> > setting would now be the preferred opion.
>
> I'm not a Citrix person, so I don't know, sorry.
> >
> > Leading on with the next question
> >
> > If users have their home drives mapped in ADUC say to H drive, is
> > there a point in setting up TS home drive as the users would surely
> > have 2 locations to keep their documents in??.
>
> If you use folder redirection it doesn't matter if you have a home directory
> set at all. I don't use them anymore.
>
> See "How to dynamically create security-enhanced redirected folders by using
> folder redirection in Windows 2000 and in Windows Server 2003"
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/274443
>
>
> > My take is if they used pure TS then use the TS home drive
> > If I mixture of 2 then Bothe ADUC home drives and TS Home drives but
> > redirect theTS Home drive to the Users Home Directory
>
> Well, they could both point to the same place, but as mentioned, I don't see
> much point in using home directories anymore. You can still map a drive to
> the user's folder in the login script (e.g., net use h:
> "\\server\home$\%username%\My Documents" /persistent:no )
> >
> > Finally AppData - do you redirect it or not?? When would and
> > wouldn't you?
>
> I do, always, unless the user has a laptop. Same with desktop.
> >
> > I am trying to figure out the best way but am confusing myself..
> > Help..
>
> Hope this helps somewhat. Sorry I don't know Citrix.
>
>
>

 

[Phil]

Re: Home directiories and folder redirection

Hi lanwench

thanks for the reply

most of that is a big help

thats a rather enlighting moment there for me !!

I never realised you could ignore the users tab now..

Then from there do the redirection

I can't find much about rootdrv2.cmd for windows 2003, maybe it is obsolete..

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:

> Phil <Phil@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > hope someone can enlighten me here as i'm quite new to Terminal
> > servers
> >
> > Is rootdrv2.cmd still valid in Citrix. If so do you still have to
> > set it on every TS. I thought that TS home drive Group policy
> > setting would now be the preferred opion.
>
> I'm not a Citrix person, so I don't know, sorry.
> >
> > Leading on with the next question
> >
> > If users have their home drives mapped in ADUC say to H drive, is
> > there a point in setting up TS home drive as the users would surely
> > have 2 locations to keep their documents in??.
>
> If you use folder redirection it doesn't matter if you have a home directory
> set at all. I don't use them anymore.
>
> See "How to dynamically create security-enhanced redirected folders by using
> folder redirection in Windows 2000 and in Windows Server 2003"
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/274443
>
>
> > My take is if they used pure TS then use the TS home drive
> > If I mixture of 2 then Bothe ADUC home drives and TS Home drives but
> > redirect theTS Home drive to the Users Home Directory
>
> Well, they could both point to the same place, but as mentioned, I don't see
> much point in using home directories anymore. You can still map a drive to
> the user's folder in the login script (e.g., net use h:
> "\\server\home$\%username%\My Documents" /persistent:no )
> >
> > Finally AppData - do you redirect it or not?? When would and
> > wouldn't you?
>
> I do, always, unless the user has a laptop. Same with desktop.
> >
> > I am trying to figure out the best way but am confusing myself..
> > Help..
>
> Hope this helps somewhat. Sorry I don't know Citrix.
>
>
>

 

[Jeff Pitsch]

Re: Home directiories and folder redirection



Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote:
> Phil <Phil@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> hope someone can enlighten me here as i'm quite new to Terminal
>> servers
>>
>> Is rootdrv2.cmd still valid in Citrix. If so do you still have to
>> set it on every TS. I thought that TS home drive Group policy
>> setting would now be the preferred opion.

Yes it's valid but it's never used and yes you would have to set it for
each server. It's used for backwards compatibility and nothing else.

>
> I'm not a Citrix person, so I don't know, sorry.
>> Leading on with the next question
>>
>> If users have their home drives mapped in ADUC say to H drive, is
>> there a point in setting up TS home drive as the users would surely
>> have 2 locations to keep their documents in??.

If you specify the normal home directory and the TS home directory you
will not get two home directories. The normal directory gets mapped
when a user logs into a workstation or TS if no TS home directory has
been specified. The TS home directory, if specified, overrides the
normal home directory.

>
> If you use folder redirection it doesn't matter if you have a home directory
> set at all. I don't use them anymore.
>
> See "How to dynamically create security-enhanced redirected folders by using
> folder redirection in Windows 2000 and in Windows Server 2003"
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/274443
>
>
>> My take is if they used pure TS then use the TS home drive
>> If I mixture of 2 then Bothe ADUC home drives and TS Home drives but
>> redirect theTS Home drive to the Users Home Directory
>
> Well, they could both point to the same place, but as mentioned, I don't see
> much point in using home directories anymore. You can still map a drive to
> the user's folder in the login script (e.g., net use h:
> "\\server\home$\%username%\My Documents" /persistent:no )
>> Finally AppData - do you redirect it or not?? When would and
>> wouldn't you?

Home directories are used to store certain TS specific settings like the
redirected Windows directory that holds .ini files. Many times, TS
environments will redirect the home folder but HIDE the home folder.
why you ask? So users don't "clean up" there home drive and delete that
windows directory. It's not critical but it is done. Also it's done
because otherwise these settings get stored in the My doc's folder,
which again, may get "cleaned up".

>
> I do, always, unless the user has a laptop. Same with desktop.
>> I am trying to figure out the best way but am confusing myself..
>> Help..
>
> Hope this helps somewhat. Sorry I don't know Citrix.
>
>

 

[Phil]

Re: Home directiories and folder redirection

Patrick

Do you set the path in group policy instead??

Jeff, lanwench

i am getting slightly confused here , apologies, so please stay with me

do we ignore the user home directories tab nowadays in ADUC? lanwench, you
said you don't use home directories any more so i am presuming that you just
set a group policy to redirect my documents for all users (maybe depended on
group membership...

am i on the right lines here??

Jeff, when you say ts enviroments will rediect the home folder but hide the
home folder , you mean the TS Home folder
how would you hide it?

"Jeff Pitsch" wrote:

>
>
> Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote:
> > Phil <Phil@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >> hope someone can enlighten me here as i'm quite new to Terminal
> >> servers
> >>
> >> Is rootdrv2.cmd still valid in Citrix. If so do you still have to
> >> set it on every TS. I thought that TS home drive Group policy
> >> setting would now be the preferred opion.
>
> Yes it's valid but it's never used and yes you would have to set it for
> each server. It's used for backwards compatibility and nothing else.
>
> >
> > I'm not a Citrix person, so I don't know, sorry.
> >> Leading on with the next question
> >>
> >> If users have their home drives mapped in ADUC say to H drive, is
> >> there a point in setting up TS home drive as the users would surely
> >> have 2 locations to keep their documents in??.
>
> If you specify the normal home directory and the TS home directory you
> will not get two home directories. The normal directory gets mapped
> when a user logs into a workstation or TS if no TS home directory has
> been specified. The TS home directory, if specified, overrides the
> normal home directory.
>
> >
> > If you use folder redirection it doesn't matter if you have a home directory
> > set at all. I don't use them anymore.
> >
> > See "How to dynamically create security-enhanced redirected folders by using
> > folder redirection in Windows 2000 and in Windows Server 2003"
> >
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/274443
> >
> >
> >> My take is if they used pure TS then use the TS home drive
> >> If I mixture of 2 then Bothe ADUC home drives and TS Home drives but
> >> redirect theTS Home drive to the Users Home Directory
> >
> > Well, they could both point to the same place, but as mentioned, I don't see
> > much point in using home directories anymore. You can still map a drive to
> > the user's folder in the login script (e.g., net use h:
> > "\\server\home$\%username%\My Documents" /persistent:no )
> >> Finally AppData - do you redirect it or not?? When would and
> >> wouldn't you?
>
> Home directories are used to store certain TS specific settings like the
> redirected Windows directory that holds .ini files. Many times, TS
> environments will redirect the home folder but HIDE the home folder.
> why you ask? So users don't "clean up" there home drive and delete that
> windows directory. It's not critical but it is done. Also it's done
> because otherwise these settings get stored in the My doc's folder,
> which again, may get "cleaned up".
>
> >
> > I do, always, unless the user has a laptop. Same with desktop.
> >> I am trying to figure out the best way but am confusing myself..
> >> Help..
> >
> > Hope this helps somewhat. Sorry I don't know Citrix.
> >
> >
>

 

[Jeff Pitsch]

Re: Home directiories and folder redirection



Phil wrote:
> Patrick
>
> Do you set the path in group policy instead??
>
> Jeff, lanwench
>
> i am getting slightly confused here , apologies, so please stay with me
>
> do we ignore the user home directories tab nowadays in ADUC? lanwench, you
> said you don't use home directories any more so i am presuming that you just
> set a group policy to redirect my documents for all users (maybe depended on
> group membership...

That really depends. Remember that Group Policy affects everyone that
logs into that server. If your home directories are spread across
multiple file servers, then ADUC is the best bet. Redirecting My
documents is not setting the home directory. Remember the home
directory is also a variable that is used by TS for certain functions.

>
> am i on the right lines here??
>
> Jeff, when you say ts enviroments will rediect the home folder but hide the
> home folder , you mean the TS Home folder
> how would you hide it?

There is a group policy element that can be set to hide certain drives.
That is what I mean. It's not done often but I have seen it done
strictly so that users will not know it's there, TS can still use it,
but users can't delete the contents and screw themselves up.

>
> "Jeff Pitsch" wrote:
>
>>
>> Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote:
>>> Phil <Phil@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>> hope someone can enlighten me here as i'm quite new to Terminal
>>>> servers
>>>>
>>>> Is rootdrv2.cmd still valid in Citrix. If so do you still have to
>>>> set it on every TS. I thought that TS home drive Group policy
>>>> setting would now be the preferred opion.
>> Yes it's valid but it's never used and yes you would have to set it for
>> each server. It's used for backwards compatibility and nothing else.
>>
>>> I'm not a Citrix person, so I don't know, sorry.
>>>> Leading on with the next question
>>>>
>>>> If users have their home drives mapped in ADUC say to H drive, is
>>>> there a point in setting up TS home drive as the users would surely
>>>> have 2 locations to keep their documents in??.
>> If you specify the normal home directory and the TS home directory you
>> will not get two home directories. The normal directory gets mapped
>> when a user logs into a workstation or TS if no TS home directory has
>> been specified. The TS home directory, if specified, overrides the
>> normal home directory.
>>
>>> If you use folder redirection it doesn't matter if you have a home directory
>>> set at all. I don't use them anymore.
>>>
>>> See "How to dynamically create security-enhanced redirected folders by using
>>> folder redirection in Windows 2000 and in Windows Server 2003"
>>>
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/274443
>>>
>>>
>>>> My take is if they used pure TS then use the TS home drive
>>>> If I mixture of 2 then Bothe ADUC home drives and TS Home drives but
>>>> redirect theTS Home drive to the Users Home Directory
>>> Well, they could both point to the same place, but as mentioned, I don't see
>>> much point in using home directories anymore. You can still map a drive to
>>> the user's folder in the login script (e.g., net use h:
>>> "\\server\home$\%username%\My Documents" /persistent:no )
>>>> Finally AppData - do you redirect it or not?? When would and
>>>> wouldn't you?
>> Home directories are used to store certain TS specific settings like the
>> redirected Windows directory that holds .ini files. Many times, TS
>> environments will redirect the home folder but HIDE the home folder.
>> why you ask? So users don't "clean up" there home drive and delete that
>> windows directory. It's not critical but it is done. Also it's done
>> because otherwise these settings get stored in the My doc's folder,
>> which again, may get "cleaned up".
>>
>>> I do, always, unless the user has a laptop. Same with desktop.
>>>> I am trying to figure out the best way but am confusing myself..
>>>> Help..
>>> Hope this helps somewhat. Sorry I don't know Citrix.
>>>
>>>