Exchange issues - SMTP. Possibly MTA Stacks?!!

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Hi there, I'd be really grateful if someone could have a quick read of
my problem!

My Exchange server is causing problems. 2-3 times a day, all outgoing
emails are bouncing with SMTP errors - Example:

There was a SMTP communication problem with the recipient's email
server. Please contact your system administrator.
<exchange.xxxx.local #5.5.0 smtp;550
<emailaddress@gmail.com>... Relaying denied>

I am on a BT Business ADSL line and using a standard BT SMTP server
which has always worked fine. I've checked at BT and it's working
fine too.

Rebooting my Exchange server resolves the problem but only for a few
hours.

Incidentally when my server restarts I always have to manually start
the "information store" service, and now I also have to start the "MTA
Stacks" service.

Running Exchange 2003 on Windows Server 2003. 700MB remaining on
system drive and 30GB left on Exchange drive.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys!

Paul
 
Re: Exchange issues - SMTP. Possibly MTA Stacks?!!

Hello Paul,

Any errors in the event viewer?

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> Hi there, I'd be really grateful if someone could have a quick read of
> my problem!
>
> My Exchange server is causing problems. 2-3 times a day, all outgoing
> emails are bouncing with SMTP errors - Example:
>
> There was a SMTP communication problem with the recipient's email
> server. Please contact your system administrator.
> <exchange.xxxx.local #5.5.0 smtp;550
> <emailaddress@gmail.com>... Relaying denied>
> I am on a BT Business ADSL line and using a standard BT SMTP server
> which has always worked fine. I've checked at BT and it's working
> fine too.
>
> Rebooting my Exchange server resolves the problem but only for a few
> hours.
>
> Incidentally when my server restarts I always have to manually start
> the "information store" service, and now I also have to start the "MTA
> Stacks" service.
>
> Running Exchange 2003 on Windows Server 2003. 700MB remaining on
> system drive and 30GB left on Exchange drive.
>
> Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys!
>
> Paul
>
 
Re: Exchange issues - SMTP. Possibly MTA Stacks?!!

"Paul" <turnerpaul@gmail.com> wrote:
> Incidentally when my server restarts I always have to manually start
> the "information store" service,
Hi,

I've seen this problem and it was because the Exchange server was the only
Global Catalog server in the site. Maybe it is your case here. If it is, try
to add this role to another DC.

ThePro
 
Re: Exchange issues - SMTP. Possibly MTA Stacks?!!

Re: Exchange issues - SMTP. Possibly MTA Stacks?!!

There all sorts of things in the event viewer, and not sure which are
important! There seem to be several referring to MAD.EXE around the
time of the issue. Like this one:

Process MAD.EXE (PID=2296). All Global Catalog Servers in use are not
responding:

and

Permanent failure reported by policy group provider for 'CN=System
Policies,CN=Microsoft
Exchange,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=local':'MAD.EXE',
error=80040103. Taking provider offline.

Any ideas?
 
Re: Exchange issues - SMTP. Possibly MTA Stacks?!!

Re: Exchange issues - SMTP. Possibly MTA Stacks?!!

Hello Paul,

Please post the complete event, click the 2 paper button in the right corner
and paste it into the posting. In Exchange system manager check in the recipient
update service to which domain controller it is pointing and make sure the
DC is Global catalog server

Check this one also:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322801

http://kerpau.net/all-global-catalog-servers-in-use-are-not-responding-on-exchange-server-2003/

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> There all sorts of things in the event viewer, and not sure which are
> important! There seem to be several referring to MAD.EXE around the
> time of the issue. Like this one:
>
> Process MAD.EXE (PID=2296). All Global Catalog Servers in use are not
> responding:
>
> and
>
> Permanent failure reported by policy group provider for 'CN=System
> Policies,CN=Microsoft
> Exchange,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=local':'MAD.EXE',
> error=80040103. Taking provider offline.
>
> Any ideas?
>
 
Re: Exchange issues - SMTP. Possibly MTA Stacks?!!


> I've seen this problem and it was because the Exchange server was the only
> Global Catalog server in the site. Maybe it is your case here. If it is,
> try
> to add this role to another DC.

That won't work, because if the Exchange Server is a DC/GC it will only use
itself.

If the Exchange server IS a GC as suggested, I would look at the overall
performance of the machine, if not, I would ensure you have the correct
Exchange to GC ratio of 4:1 (or 8:1 if using 64bit hardware and the DIT is
in ram).

Oliver
 
Re: Exchange issues - SMTP. Possibly MTA Stacks?!!

"Oliver Moazzezi [MVP]" <o.moazzezino@spamfreenet.co.uk> wrote:
> That won't work, because if the Exchange Server is a DC/GC it will only
> use itself.
>
Hi,

Not true. I can assure you that you need another GC in the site even though
the Exchange Server uses itself. If not, sometimes Exchange Services will
try to start before AD is started and that will result in the problem the OP
is refering to. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875427 , especially the
section "Exchange Server computer placement".

ThePro
 
Re: Exchange issues - SMTP. Possibly MTA Stacks?!!

Hello ThePro,

From what point there do you read that you have the need for a second GC
in the site? We have had in 2 domains only one DC with exchange installed
and works without any problems over years.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> "Oliver Moazzezi [MVP]" <o.moazzezino@spamfreenet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> That won't work, because if the Exchange Server is a DC/GC it will
>> only use itself.
>>
> Hi,
>
> Not true. I can assure you that you need another GC in the site even
> though the Exchange Server uses itself. If not, sometimes Exchange
> Services will try to start before AD is started and that will result
> in the problem the OP is refering to. See
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875427 , especially the section
> "Exchange Server computer placement".
>
> ThePro
>
 
Re: Exchange issues - SMTP. Possibly MTA Stacks?!!

Hi,

This line:

"The installation of Exchange on a domain controller may affect the
performance of that domain controller. In some scenarios, this performance
effect prevents the Exchange-related services from starting successfully
when you start the computer. In these scenarios, you must manually start the
Exchange-related services."

The "In some scenarios" phrasing is less than precise but I encountered
myself at least two different DCs with Exchange 2003 that needed a second GC
at the site for the Exchange IS service to start automatically at boot time.

This article http://support.microsoft.com/kb/829361 is another case when
more than one GC can be helpful.

ThePro

"Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hello ThePro,
>
> From what point there do you read that you have the need for a second GC
> in the site? We have had in 2 domains only one DC with exchange installed
> and works without any problems over years.
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>> "Oliver Moazzezi [MVP]" <o.moazzezino@spamfreenet.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> That won't work, because if the Exchange Server is a DC/GC it will
>>> only use itself.
>>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Not true. I can assure you that you need another GC in the site even
>> though the Exchange Server uses itself. If not, sometimes Exchange
>> Services will try to start before AD is started and that will result
>> in the problem the OP is refering to. See
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875427 , especially the section
>> "Exchange Server computer placement".
>>
>> ThePro
>>
>
>
 
Re: Exchange issues - SMTP. Possibly MTA Stacks?!!

Hello ThePro,

But then i will still refer to the configured DC/GC in ESM or not? So another
GC in the domain will not be used from the exchange server, or?

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> Hi,
>
> This line:
>
> "The installation of Exchange on a domain controller may affect the
> performance of that domain controller. In some scenarios, this
> performance effect prevents the Exchange-related services from
> starting successfully when you start the computer. In these scenarios,
> you must manually start the Exchange-related services."
>
> The "In some scenarios" phrasing is less than precise but I
> encountered myself at least two different DCs with Exchange 2003 that
> needed a second GC at the site for the Exchange IS service to start
> automatically at boot time.
>
> This article http://support.microsoft.com/kb/829361 is another case
> when more than one GC can be helpful.
>
> ThePro
>
> "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote:
>
>> Hello ThePro,
>>
>> From what point there do you read that you have the need for a second
>> GC in the site? We have had in 2 domains only one DC with exchange
>> installed and works without any problems over years.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> "Oliver Moazzezi [MVP]" <o.moazzezino@spamfreenet.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That won't work, because if the Exchange Server is a DC/GC it will
>>>> only use itself.
>>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Not true. I can assure you that you need another GC in the site even
>>> though the Exchange Server uses itself. If not, sometimes Exchange
>>> Services will try to start before AD is started and that will result
>>> in the problem the OP is refering to. See
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875427 , especially the section
>>> "Exchange Server computer placement".
>>>
>>> ThePro
>>>
 
Re: Exchange issues - SMTP. Possibly MTA Stacks?!!

In ESM you can keep the Exchange server itself. The other GC will only be
used during startup/shutdown.

ThePro

"Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hello ThePro,
>
> But then i will still refer to the configured DC/GC in ESM or not? So
> another GC in the domain will not be used from the exchange server, or?
>
 
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