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Tyler Durden
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Is there any registry tweak to disable the folders compression at 100th
execution?
Kind regards.
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Bruce Hagen
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Re: Disable folders compacting on Outlook Express
[X-Posted to OE General Newsgroup]
"Tyler Durden" <abuse@antispam.org> wrote in message
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> Is there any registry tweak to disable the folders compression at 100th
> execution?
>
> Kind regards.
No, there is no tweak and you will regret not compacting at some point.
Please read on.
Why does OE insist on compacting folders when I close it?:
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#compact
About File Corruption:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx
Compacting your folders periodically is a must to keep OE functioning well
and at some point, you may lose all your saved messages if you don't. When
you delete, or move messages, the space they had used remains until you
compact.
***Never touch anything until the compacting is finished.***
See:
www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2
With SP2, automatic background compacting was removed due to problems it
caused. Now you will get a prompt to compact after 100 OE closings, which
you should do, and don't touch anything until it has finished. If you
compact manually, at your convenience, this will also set the counter back
to zero. See this for more information:
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm#compact
If you are fully patched, you will also now see a copy of your dbx files
being copied to the Recycle Bin as BAK files. Should something go awry when
compacting, the messages can easily be restored from this backup. A manual
compact will also reset the counter in the registry back to zero now.
For more info, see the information outlined in red here:
www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2
To keep things running smooth, and for faster compacting:
Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupt and you may lose mail. Create your own user defined folders for
storing mail and move your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder
regularly. Keep user created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as
empty as is feasible.
And backup often.
Backup and Restore:
http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA
[X-Posted to OE General Newsgroup]
"Tyler Durden" <abuse@antispam.org> wrote in message
news:e9toz7BKJHA.920@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Is there any registry tweak to disable the folders compression at 100th
> execution?
>
> Kind regards.
No, there is no tweak and you will regret not compacting at some point.
Please read on.
Why does OE insist on compacting folders when I close it?:
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#compact
About File Corruption:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx
Compacting your folders periodically is a must to keep OE functioning well
and at some point, you may lose all your saved messages if you don't. When
you delete, or move messages, the space they had used remains until you
compact.
***Never touch anything until the compacting is finished.***
See:
www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2
With SP2, automatic background compacting was removed due to problems it
caused. Now you will get a prompt to compact after 100 OE closings, which
you should do, and don't touch anything until it has finished. If you
compact manually, at your convenience, this will also set the counter back
to zero. See this for more information:
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm#compact
If you are fully patched, you will also now see a copy of your dbx files
being copied to the Recycle Bin as BAK files. Should something go awry when
compacting, the messages can easily be restored from this backup. A manual
compact will also reset the counter in the registry back to zero now.
For more info, see the information outlined in red here:
www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2
To keep things running smooth, and for faster compacting:
Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupt and you may lose mail. Create your own user defined folders for
storing mail and move your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder
regularly. Keep user created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as
empty as is feasible.
And backup often.
Backup and Restore:
http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA
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BennyVHansen@gmail.com
Guest
Re: Disable folders compacting on Outlook Express
Why would I want to compact if I have zero emails stored? I don't use
OE to send or retrieve any emails, only to print ".EML" files.
I print hundreds of emails at a time and these ".EML" files are not
imported to a folder in OE so I should NEVER need to compact.
I understand the need for compacting but the way this is triggered
(100 OE closing) is a lousy way to do it. There should be an option
to disable it, even if it's a one-time registry tweak, or checking #
of emails sent/received since last compact, or number of emails
stored, etc... anything would be better than the 100 OE closing
trigger.
Since OE does not have a "print" context menu option (you can't right
click on an ".EML" file and select "Print") I've had to create a
program to automate printing hundreds of emails anat a time and this
annoying compact nag is throwing it off every 100 times.
I've seen some people mentioning a possible registry tweak that
involves resetting "Compact Check Count" to 0 so I guess I'll try
looking into implementing this into my program but what a hassle.
Sorry, just had to rant.
Why would I want to compact if I have zero emails stored? I don't use
OE to send or retrieve any emails, only to print ".EML" files.
I print hundreds of emails at a time and these ".EML" files are not
imported to a folder in OE so I should NEVER need to compact.
I understand the need for compacting but the way this is triggered
(100 OE closing) is a lousy way to do it. There should be an option
to disable it, even if it's a one-time registry tweak, or checking #
of emails sent/received since last compact, or number of emails
stored, etc... anything would be better than the 100 OE closing
trigger.
Since OE does not have a "print" context menu option (you can't right
click on an ".EML" file and select "Print") I've had to create a
program to automate printing hundreds of emails anat a time and this
annoying compact nag is throwing it off every 100 times.
I've seen some people mentioning a possible registry tweak that
involves resetting "Compact Check Count" to 0 so I guess I'll try
looking into implementing this into my program but what a hassle.
Sorry, just had to rant.
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Bob I
Guest
Re: Disable folders compacting on Outlook Express
BennyVHansen@gmail.com wrote:
> Why would I want to compact if I have zero emails stored? I don't use
> OE to send or retrieve any emails, only to print ".EML" files.
> I print hundreds of emails at a time and these ".EML" files are not
> imported to a folder in OE so I should NEVER need to compact.
>
> I understand the need for compacting but the way this is triggered
> (100 OE closing) is a lousy way to do it. There should be an option
> to disable it, even if it's a one-time registry tweak, or checking #
> of emails sent/received since last compact, or number of emails
> stored, etc... anything would be better than the 100 OE closing
> trigger.
>
> Since OE does not have a "print" context menu option (you can't right
> click on an ".EML" file and select "Print") I've had to create a
> program to automate printing hundreds of emails anat a time and this
> annoying compact nag is throwing it off every 100 times.
>
> I've seen some people mentioning a possible registry tweak that
> involves resetting "Compact Check Count" to 0 so I guess I'll try
> looking into implementing this into my program but what a hassle.
>
> Sorry, just had to rant
Vista doesn't have Outlook Express.
BennyVHansen@gmail.com wrote:
> Why would I want to compact if I have zero emails stored? I don't use
> OE to send or retrieve any emails, only to print ".EML" files.
> I print hundreds of emails at a time and these ".EML" files are not
> imported to a folder in OE so I should NEVER need to compact.
>
> I understand the need for compacting but the way this is triggered
> (100 OE closing) is a lousy way to do it. There should be an option
> to disable it, even if it's a one-time registry tweak, or checking #
> of emails sent/received since last compact, or number of emails
> stored, etc... anything would be better than the 100 OE closing
> trigger.
>
> Since OE does not have a "print" context menu option (you can't right
> click on an ".EML" file and select "Print") I've had to create a
> program to automate printing hundreds of emails anat a time and this
> annoying compact nag is throwing it off every 100 times.
>
> I've seen some people mentioning a possible registry tweak that
> involves resetting "Compact Check Count" to 0 so I guess I'll try
> looking into implementing this into my program but what a hassle.
>
> Sorry, just had to rant
Vista doesn't have Outlook Express.
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Steve Cochran
Guest
Re: Disable folders compacting on Outlook Express
You are preaching to the choir. Unfortunately, no one at MS who has any
say in such matters pays any attention to this or other newsgroups.
If you are invoking the IStoreNamespace, then if you leave it open for the
duration of the printing (as opposed to opening and closing it with each
message) and then close it, then the compact check count will only be
incremented once.
This applies to Windows Mail in Vista as well.
steve
<BennyVHansen@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f8c18fe5-eec8-42ba-88a0-351d1db2a223@v39g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
> Why would I want to compact if I have zero emails stored? I don't use
> OE to send or retrieve any emails, only to print ".EML" files.
> I print hundreds of emails at a time and these ".EML" files are not
> imported to a folder in OE so I should NEVER need to compact.
>
> I understand the need for compacting but the way this is triggered
> (100 OE closing) is a lousy way to do it. There should be an option
> to disable it, even if it's a one-time registry tweak, or checking #
> of emails sent/received since last compact, or number of emails
> stored, etc... anything would be better than the 100 OE closing
> trigger.
>
> Since OE does not have a "print" context menu option (you can't right
> click on an ".EML" file and select "Print") I've had to create a
> program to automate printing hundreds of emails anat a time and this
> annoying compact nag is throwing it off every 100 times.
>
> I've seen some people mentioning a possible registry tweak that
> involves resetting "Compact Check Count" to 0 so I guess I'll try
> looking into implementing this into my program but what a hassle.
>
> Sorry, just had to rant.
You are preaching to the choir. Unfortunately, no one at MS who has any
say in such matters pays any attention to this or other newsgroups.
If you are invoking the IStoreNamespace, then if you leave it open for the
duration of the printing (as opposed to opening and closing it with each
message) and then close it, then the compact check count will only be
incremented once.
This applies to Windows Mail in Vista as well.
steve
<BennyVHansen@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f8c18fe5-eec8-42ba-88a0-351d1db2a223@v39g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
> Why would I want to compact if I have zero emails stored? I don't use
> OE to send or retrieve any emails, only to print ".EML" files.
> I print hundreds of emails at a time and these ".EML" files are not
> imported to a folder in OE so I should NEVER need to compact.
>
> I understand the need for compacting but the way this is triggered
> (100 OE closing) is a lousy way to do it. There should be an option
> to disable it, even if it's a one-time registry tweak, or checking #
> of emails sent/received since last compact, or number of emails
> stored, etc... anything would be better than the 100 OE closing
> trigger.
>
> Since OE does not have a "print" context menu option (you can't right
> click on an ".EML" file and select "Print") I've had to create a
> program to automate printing hundreds of emails anat a time and this
> annoying compact nag is throwing it off every 100 times.
>
> I've seen some people mentioning a possible registry tweak that
> involves resetting "Compact Check Count" to 0 so I guess I'll try
> looking into implementing this into my program but what a hassle.
>
> Sorry, just had to rant.
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PA Bear [MS MVP]
Guest
Re: Disable folders compacting on Outlook Express
Ideally you would have begun a new thread about /your/ specific issues.
Are you running WinXP SP2 or WinXP SP3?
How often are you seeing the prompt to compact OE folders?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
BennyVHansen@gmail.com wrote:
> Why would I want to compact if I have zero emails stored? I don't use
> OE to send or retrieve any emails, only to print ".EML" files.
> I print hundreds of emails at a time and these ".EML" files are not
> imported to a folder in OE so I should NEVER need to compact.
>
> I understand the need for compacting but the way this is triggered
> (100 OE closing) is a lousy way to do it. There should be an option
> to disable it, even if it's a one-time registry tweak, or checking #
> of emails sent/received since last compact, or number of emails
> stored, etc... anything would be better than the 100 OE closing
> trigger.
>
> Since OE does not have a "print" context menu option (you can't right
> click on an ".EML" file and select "Print") I've had to create a
> program to automate printing hundreds of emails anat a time and this
> annoying compact nag is throwing it off every 100 times.
>
> I've seen some people mentioning a possible registry tweak that
> involves resetting "Compact Check Count" to 0 so I guess I'll try
> looking into implementing this into my program but what a hassle.
>
> Sorry, just had to rant.
Ideally you would have begun a new thread about /your/ specific issues.
Are you running WinXP SP2 or WinXP SP3?
How often are you seeing the prompt to compact OE folders?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
BennyVHansen@gmail.com wrote:
> Why would I want to compact if I have zero emails stored? I don't use
> OE to send or retrieve any emails, only to print ".EML" files.
> I print hundreds of emails at a time and these ".EML" files are not
> imported to a folder in OE so I should NEVER need to compact.
>
> I understand the need for compacting but the way this is triggered
> (100 OE closing) is a lousy way to do it. There should be an option
> to disable it, even if it's a one-time registry tweak, or checking #
> of emails sent/received since last compact, or number of emails
> stored, etc... anything would be better than the 100 OE closing
> trigger.
>
> Since OE does not have a "print" context menu option (you can't right
> click on an ".EML" file and select "Print") I've had to create a
> program to automate printing hundreds of emails anat a time and this
> annoying compact nag is throwing it off every 100 times.
>
> I've seen some people mentioning a possible registry tweak that
> involves resetting "Compact Check Count" to 0 so I guess I'll try
> looking into implementing this into my program but what a hassle.
>
> Sorry, just had to rant.
M
Michael Santovec
Guest
Re: Disable folders compacting on Outlook Express
Starting with SP2, you get the prompt to compact after 100 closings of
OE and every one thereafter until you compact. SP3 It changes the way
the compact count gets incremented. With SP2, only closing the main
program caused the count to get incremented. But with SP3, if the main
OE program is closed, every time a DBX, EML or NWS file is accessed by
an OE component, the count gets incremented. This includes double
clicking an EML file or sending an e-mail from another program (if OE is
the default for either) or a number of indexing programs such as Windows
Desktop Search or Nero Scout.
In your case of printing EML files, having the main OE program open
while printing will stop the count from being incremented.
--
Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
<BennyVHansen@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f8c18fe5-eec8-42ba-88a0-351d1db2a223@v39g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
> Why would I want to compact if I have zero emails stored? I don't use
> OE to send or retrieve any emails, only to print ".EML" files.
> I print hundreds of emails at a time and these ".EML" files are not
> imported to a folder in OE so I should NEVER need to compact.
>
> I understand the need for compacting but the way this is triggered
> (100 OE closing) is a lousy way to do it. There should be an option
> to disable it, even if it's a one-time registry tweak, or checking #
> of emails sent/received since last compact, or number of emails
> stored, etc... anything would be better than the 100 OE closing
> trigger.
>
> Since OE does not have a "print" context menu option (you can't right
> click on an ".EML" file and select "Print") I've had to create a
> program to automate printing hundreds of emails anat a time and this
> annoying compact nag is throwing it off every 100 times.
>
> I've seen some people mentioning a possible registry tweak that
> involves resetting "Compact Check Count" to 0 so I guess I'll try
> looking into implementing this into my program but what a hassle.
>
> Sorry, just had to rant.
Starting with SP2, you get the prompt to compact after 100 closings of
OE and every one thereafter until you compact. SP3 It changes the way
the compact count gets incremented. With SP2, only closing the main
program caused the count to get incremented. But with SP3, if the main
OE program is closed, every time a DBX, EML or NWS file is accessed by
an OE component, the count gets incremented. This includes double
clicking an EML file or sending an e-mail from another program (if OE is
the default for either) or a number of indexing programs such as Windows
Desktop Search or Nero Scout.
In your case of printing EML files, having the main OE program open
while printing will stop the count from being incremented.
--
Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
<BennyVHansen@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f8c18fe5-eec8-42ba-88a0-351d1db2a223@v39g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
> Why would I want to compact if I have zero emails stored? I don't use
> OE to send or retrieve any emails, only to print ".EML" files.
> I print hundreds of emails at a time and these ".EML" files are not
> imported to a folder in OE so I should NEVER need to compact.
>
> I understand the need for compacting but the way this is triggered
> (100 OE closing) is a lousy way to do it. There should be an option
> to disable it, even if it's a one-time registry tweak, or checking #
> of emails sent/received since last compact, or number of emails
> stored, etc... anything would be better than the 100 OE closing
> trigger.
>
> Since OE does not have a "print" context menu option (you can't right
> click on an ".EML" file and select "Print") I've had to create a
> program to automate printing hundreds of emails anat a time and this
> annoying compact nag is throwing it off every 100 times.
>
> I've seen some people mentioning a possible registry tweak that
> involves resetting "Compact Check Count" to 0 so I guess I'll try
> looking into implementing this into my program but what a hassle.
>
> Sorry, just had to rant.
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