Anti-Virus thoughts and opinions

[~~Alan~~]

I'm probably going to start some heated discussions (I may want to talk
about politics instead) but I'm interested to read about anyone's
experiences with enterprise (not stand-alone please) anti-virus solutions
from Norton, Sophos, Mcaffee, etc.

Thanks,
~alan

 

[philo]

Re: Anti-Virus thoughts and opinions


"~~Alan~~" <a.shepro@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eHjw0JTKJHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> I'm probably going to start some heated discussions (I may want to talk
> about politics instead) but I'm interested to read about anyone's
> experiences with enterprise (not stand-alone please) anti-virus solutions
> from Norton, Sophos, Mcaffee, etc.
>
> Thanks,
> ~alan
>
>

I have never worked on a machine with Sophos

but have had to repair many machines with both Norton and Mcaffee.

Even though the machines had updated virus definitions, they still got
infected.
The unfortunate fact is that the "wonderful" folks who write the malware,
seem to enjoy most...attacking the "big name" virus checkers.

Additionally, Norton and Mcaffee are some of the biggest resource hogs out
there.

If you need to run a virus checker on your own home machine,
you'd be better off with the free version of Avast or AVG

 

[Lem]

Re: Anti-Virus thoughts and opinions

~~Alan~~ wrote:
> I'm probably going to start some heated discussions (I may want to talk
> about politics instead) but I'm interested to read about anyone's
> experiences with enterprise (not stand-alone please) anti-virus solutions
> from Norton, Sophos, Mcaffee, etc.
>
> Thanks,
> ~alan
>
>

From the IT dept's point of view, such apps permit centralized control,
which at least means that IT can ensure that users are up-to-date both
with respect to virus definitions and application revisions. McAfee, and
I believe Symantec as well, also can be installed so that the client has
no access to the "control panel," and thus can't reconfigure how the a/v
behaves. This can be a problem if the client wants to temporarily
disable a/v scanning in order, for example, to install some app or
update. But then again, IT probably doesn't want clients installing
their own apps.

As far as resource hogging, Symantec a/v Corp Ed. may be a little better
than consumer Norton a/v, but its startup scan can be a real PITA.

--
Lem -- MS-MVP

To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm

 

[smlunatick]

Re: Anti-Virus thoughts and opinions

On Oct 8, 11:41 am, "~~Alan~~" <a.she...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm probably going to start some heated discussions (I may want to talk
> about politics instead) but I'm interested to read about anyone's
> experiences with enterprise (not stand-alone please) anti-virus solutions
> from Norton, Sophos, Mcaffee, etc.
>
> Thanks,
> ~alan

Sophos -- I used it years ago. It was fast in scanning and shielding
but at the time, they were not able to remove the viruses. They
recommneded to delete all infected files and restore from backup.

McAfee -- Very slow. Let viruses thru sometimes

Norton -- Not a business grade anti-virus. Symantec Corporate
edition.
Also slow.

 

[Anteaus]

RE: Anti-Virus thoughts and opinions


AVG for networks, mostly. We disable the link scanner and email scanning, as
we user server-based mail scanning. One advantage is that V8 detects spyware
as well as viruses, which most AV products do not. Does have some performance
impact, but good detection rate.

Sophos is good, have that on one supported site.

NOD32 (Eset) and Avira are also good for standalone use, not sure if they
support centralised updating, though.

Norton - useless.
McAfee - not much better.


"~~Alan~~" wrote:

> I'm probably going to start some heated discussions (I may want to talk
> about politics instead) but I'm interested to read about anyone's
> experiences with enterprise (not stand-alone please) anti-virus solutions
> from Norton, Sophos, Mcaffee, etc.
>
> Thanks,
> ~alan
>
>
>

 

[Leythos]

Re: Anti-Virus thoughts and opinions

In article <eHjw0JTKJHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, a.shepro@gmail.com
says...
> I'm probably going to start some heated discussions (I may want to talk
> about politics instead) but I'm interested to read about anyone's
> experiences with enterprise (not stand-alone please) anti-virus solutions
> from Norton, Sophos, Mcaffee, etc.

We have about 80 sites, used about everything on the planet, each
solution has its problems with new releases and ability to detect new
malware.

We currently use Symantec Corp Ed 10.2 on most networks, Symantec End
Point Protection on some, stopped using the other vendors products once
Symantec lowered the minimum license purchase to 5.

We also implement very strict security settings in the Firewall
Appliances and almost no user is a local administrator on their company
computer.

In all my years, not a single managed client has had their network
compromised.

--
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
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drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
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[Leythos]

Re: Anti-Virus thoughts and opinions

In article <OditSaVKJHA.5904@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, lemp40@unknownhost
says...
> As far as resource hogging, Symantec a/v Corp Ed. may be a little better
> than consumer Norton a/v, but its startup scan can be a real PITA.
>

You can disable them, as we do in most networks.

--
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
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[Leythos]

RE: Anti-Virus thoughts and opinions

In article <66CF0558-2CC3-4E8B-9F93-C9B0E3912557@microsoft.com>,
Anteaus@discussions.microsoft.com says...
> AVG for networks
>

90+% of all compromised networks and systems that we see are running
AVG.

--
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
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[sgopus]

RE: Anti-Virus thoughts and opinions

Something I discovered recently, I had purchased KIS and been using it for
years, and THOUGHT I had Virus coverage as well, apparently not, as KIS
doesn't automatically include the Antivirus portion, and when I asked for
help to activate the Antivirus portion, from Kaspersky they have ignored me.

"~~Alan~~" wrote:

> I'm probably going to start some heated discussions (I may want to talk
> about politics instead) but I'm interested to read about anyone's
> experiences with enterprise (not stand-alone please) anti-virus solutions
> from Norton, Sophos, Mcaffee, etc.
>
> Thanks,
> ~alan
>
>
>

 

[EncinoMan]

Re: Anti-Virus thoughts and opinions

On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 06:41:42 -0400, "~~Alan~~" <a.shepro@gmail.com>
wrote:

>I'm probably going to start some heated discussions (I may want to talk
>about politics instead) but I'm interested to read about anyone's
>experiences with enterprise (not stand-alone please) anti-virus solutions
>from Norton, Sophos, Mcaffee, etc.
>
>Thanks,
>~alan
>
Why bring this up here? What A/V program you choose is just personal
preference.

Ask elsewhere

 

[George]

Re: Anti-Virus thoughts and opinions


"EncinoMan" <none@nobody.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 06:41:42 -0400, "~~Alan~~" <a.shepro@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I'm probably going to start some heated discussions (I may want to talk
>>about politics instead) but I'm interested to read about anyone's
>>experiences with enterprise (not stand-alone please) anti-virus solutions
>>from Norton, Sophos, Mcaffee, etc.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>~alan
>>
> Why bring this up here? What A/V program you choose is just personal
> preference.
>
> Ask elsewhere

Darn you are funny! some people just don't have anything else to do do
they????

 

[EncinoMan]

Re: Anti-Virus thoughts and opinions

On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 10:51:31 -0400, "George" <pop@email.com> wrote:

>
>"EncinoMan" <none@nobody.net> wrote in message
>news:71kqe4p9833pji3n3cfc8fdof611k0jbht@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 06:41:42 -0400, "~~Alan~~" <a.shepro@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I'm probably going to start some heated discussions (I may want to talk
>>>about politics instead) but I'm interested to read about anyone's
>>>experiences with enterprise (not stand-alone please) anti-virus solutions
>>>from Norton, Sophos, Mcaffee, etc.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>~alan
>>>
>> Why bring this up here? What A/V program you choose is just personal
>> preference.
>>
>> Ask elsewhere
>
>Darn you are funny! some people just don't have anything else to do do
>they????
>

You mean besides ask stupid off topic questions in groups they don't
belong in? Then yes, I agree with you.

 

[Jason]

Re: Anti-Virus thoughts and opinions

I've gone from AVG to Avast - AVG wouldn't update and also 'try' to update
at a certain tiem each day.
"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>
> "~~Alan~~" <a.shepro@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eHjw0JTKJHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> I'm probably going to start some heated discussions (I may want to talk
>> about politics instead) but I'm interested to read about anyone's
>> experiences with enterprise (not stand-alone please) anti-virus solutions
>> from Norton, Sophos, Mcaffee, etc.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> ~alan
>>
>>
>
> I have never worked on a machine with Sophos
>
> but have had to repair many machines with both Norton and Mcaffee.
>
> Even though the machines had updated virus definitions, they still got
> infected.
> The unfortunate fact is that the "wonderful" folks who write the malware,
> seem to enjoy most...attacking the "big name" virus checkers.
>
> Additionally, Norton and Mcaffee are some of the biggest resource hogs out
> there.
>
> If you need to run a virus checker on your own home machine,
> you'd be better off with the free version of Avast or AVG
>
>