Silent Restore Points?

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Aloha all. Is there a way to automatically have my system create Restore
point without them showing up on the screen? I use a small Create Restore
Point program, which I have placed in my Startup file. Whenever I reboot a
point is created, but it also shows up on the screen and delays access. Is
there a way to schedule Restore Point creation (say first bootup of the day)
that would be silent?
Thank you.
 
Re: Silent Restore Points?

Hi LMO,

By default System Restore creates a automatic restore point every 24 hours. In case it doesn't, here are some troubleshooting steps at Bert's site.

How to Troubleshoot System Restore when Restore Points are not being created automatically in Windows XP
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/srauto.html

To force creation of System Restore Point during the first bootup of the day, you may use the script here which I wrote.

How to automatically create a System Restore point upon the first boot up of the day?:
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/createrp.htm

--
Regards,

Ramesh Srinivasan, Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]
Windows® Troubleshooting http://www.winhelponline.com


"LMO" <gcorlin@hawaii.rr.como> wrote in message news:46912646$0$30675$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
Aloha all. Is there a way to automatically have my system create Restore
point without them showing up on the screen? I use a small Create Restore
Point program, which I have placed in my Startup file. Whenever I reboot a
point is created, but it also shows up on the screen and delays access. Is
there a way to schedule Restore Point creation (say first bootup of the day)
that would be silent?
Thank you.
 
Re: Silent Restore Points?

LMO wrote:
> Aloha all. Is there a way to automatically have my system create
> Restore point without them showing up on the screen? I use a small
> Create Restore Point program, which I have placed in my Startup
> file. Whenever I reboot a point is created, but it also shows up on
> the screen and delays access. Is there a way to schedule Restore
> Point creation (say first bootup of the day) that would be silent?

You do realize that system restore points are made once a day anyway -
right?
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/q_a.html#8

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
 
Re: Silent Restore Points?

On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 08:00:36 -1000, "LMO" <gcorlin@hawaii.rr.como>
wrote:

> Aloha all. Is there a way to automatically have my system create Restore
> point without them showing up on the screen? I use a small Create Restore
> Point program, which I have placed in my Startup file. Whenever I reboot a
> point is created, but it also shows up on the screen and delays access. Is
> there a way to schedule Restore Point creation (say first bootup of the day)
> that would be silent?


Why do you use such a program? It shouldn't be necessary. A restore
point is automatically created every day.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
Re: Silent Restore Points?

Some clarification - A "System Checkpoint" restore point is created by
default. The System Checkpoint restore point is created after 24 hours of
activity if no other restore points have been created. Note it it not a
daily 24 hours but 24 hours of activity.



"LMO" <gcorlin@hawaii.rr.como> wrote in message
news:46912646$0$30675$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Aloha all. Is there a way to automatically have my system create Restore
> point without them showing up on the screen? I use a small Create Restore
> Point program, which I have placed in my Startup file. Whenever I reboot a
> point is created, but it also shows up on the screen and delays access. Is
> there a way to schedule Restore Point creation (say first bootup of the
> day) that would be silent?
> Thank you.
>
 
Re: Silent Restore Points?

"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote:

>Why do you use such a program? It shouldn't be necessary. A restore
>point is automatically created every day.

IF the computer is on 24x7
 
Re: Silent Restore Points?

That's not correct. A restore point is created every 24 hours of calendar
time. By default, System Restore will create a restore point every day that
the machine is running. These restore points are only created during idle
time; for example, when there is no mouse, keyboard, or disk i/o activity.

Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org
Member: http://dts-l.org

AJR wrote:
> Some clarification - A "System Checkpoint" restore point is created by
> default. The System Checkpoint restore point is created after 24 hours of
> activity if no other restore points have been created. Note it it not a
> daily 24 hours but 24 hours of activity.
>
>
>
> "LMO" <gcorlin@hawaii.rr.como> wrote in message
> news:46912646$0$30675$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> Aloha all. Is there a way to automatically have my system create Restore
>> point without them showing up on the screen? I use a small Create Restore
>> Point program, which I have placed in my Startup file. Whenever I reboot a
>> point is created, but it also shows up on the screen and delays access. Is
>> there a way to schedule Restore Point creation (say first bootup of the
>> day) that would be silent?
>> Thank you.
 
Re: Silent Restore Points?



Uncle Grumpy wrote:
> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote:
>
>> Why do you use such a program? It shouldn't be necessary. A restore
>> point is automatically created every day.
>
> IF the computer is on 24x7

A restore point is created every 24 hours of calendar time. By default,
System Restore will create a restore point every day that the machine is
run. If a machine is only turned on a couple of hours as day, and 24 hours
has passed, and there has been sufficient idle time, an automatic restore
point will be created.

Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org
Member: http://dts-l.org
 
Re: Silent Restore Points?

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 15:17:58 -0500, Uncle Grumpy
<unclegrumpy@ameritech.net> wrote:

> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote:
>
> >Why do you use such a program? It shouldn't be necessary. A restore
> >point is automatically created every day.
>
> IF the computer is on 24x7


That is *not* correct.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
Re: Silent Restore Points?

"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote:

>> >Why do you use such a program? It shouldn't be necessary. A restore
>> >point is automatically created every day.
>>
>> IF the computer is on 24x7

>That is *not* correct.

How 'bout: IF the computer is on long enough for such a restore to
take place. (or something to that effect).

I'm using my notebook as my reference. I have to manually create a
restore point every now and then just so I have one.
 
Re: Silent Restore Points?

If I'm "tweaking" or installing new software I can push a button rather than
having to go into the start menu and bringing up System Restore to create a
point.

"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:s0d293hhgvj4s3gu9uh78pl98s4mm1at6h@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 08:00:36 -1000, "LMO" <gcorlin@hawaii.rr.como>
> wrote:
>
>> Aloha all. Is there a way to automatically have my system create Restore
>> point without them showing up on the screen? I use a small Create Restore
>> Point program, which I have placed in my Startup file. Whenever I reboot
>> a
>> point is created, but it also shows up on the screen and delays access.
>> Is
>> there a way to schedule Restore Point creation (say first bootup of the
>> day)
>> that would be silent?
>
>
> Why do you use such a program? It shouldn't be necessary. A restore
> point is automatically created every day.
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
Re: Silent Restore Points?

LMO wrote:
> If I'm "tweaking" or installing new software I can push a button
> rather than having to go into the start menu and bringing up System
> Restore to create a point.

Tweaking - I understand...
Installing a program - well designed software will trigger a restore point
creation anyway.

You should read up on System Restore from Bert Kenniey's web site:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/q_a.html

You might be interested in the scripts...
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/srscripts.html

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
 
Re: Silent Restore Points?

Here are some troubleshooting missing restore points:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/missingrps.html

Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org
Member: http://dts-l.org

Uncle Grumpy wrote:
> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote:
>
>>>> Why do you use such a program? It shouldn't be necessary. A restore
>>>> point is automatically created every day.
>>> IF the computer is on 24x7
>
>> That is *not* correct.
>
> How 'bout: IF the computer is on long enough for such a restore to
> take place. (or something to that effect).
>
> I'm using my notebook as my reference. I have to manually create a
> restore point every now and then just so I have one.
 
Re: Silent Restore Points?

There's nothing wrong with that, other than that the restore point will not
be labeled to indicate the exact reason it was created.

Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org
Member: http://dts-l.org

LMO wrote:
> If I'm "tweaking" or installing new software I can push a button rather than
> having to go into the start menu and bringing up System Restore to create a
> point.
>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:s0d293hhgvj4s3gu9uh78pl98s4mm1at6h@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 08:00:36 -1000, "LMO" <gcorlin@hawaii.rr.como>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Aloha all. Is there a way to automatically have my system create Restore
>>> point without them showing up on the screen? I use a small Create Restore
>>> Point program, which I have placed in my Startup file. Whenever I reboot
>>> a
>>> point is created, but it also shows up on the screen and delays access.
>>> Is
>>> there a way to schedule Restore Point creation (say first bootup of the
>>> day)
>>> that would be silent?
>>
>> Why do you use such a program? It shouldn't be necessary. A restore
>> point is automatically created every day.
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>
>
 
Re: Silent Restore Points?

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 16:22:38 -0400, Bert Kinney <bert@NSmvps.org>
wrote:

>These restore points are only created during idle
>time; for example, when there is no mouse, keyboard, or disk i/o activity.

Any idea of how much idle time windows need before making a restore
point? I typically only see one made once every two or three days and
I'm on this laptop a bunch. Maybe I should not put in on standy when I
take a break. :)

--
Zilbandy
 
Re: Silent Restore Points?

Hi Shenan,

I have found that most applications do not utilizes an installer that is
System Restore compliant. This included some MS applications. I would rather
have duplicate restore points than none at all. :)

Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org
Member: http://dts-l.org

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> LMO wrote:
>> If I'm "tweaking" or installing new software I can push a button
>> rather than having to go into the start menu and bringing up System
>> Restore to create a point.
>
> Tweaking - I understand...
> Installing a program - well designed software will trigger a restore point
> creation anyway.
>
> You should read up on System Restore from Bert Kenniey's web site:
> http://bertk.mvps.org/html/q_a.html
>
> You might be interested in the scripts...
> http://bertk.mvps.org/html/srscripts.html
 
Re: Silent Restore Points?



Zilbandy wrote:
> Bert Kinney wrote:
>
>> These restore points are only created during idle
>> time; for example, when there is no mouse, keyboard, or disk i/o activity.
>
> Any idea of how much idle time windows need before making a restore
> point? I typically only see one made once every two or three days and
> I'm on this laptop a bunch. Maybe I should not put in on standy when I
> take a break. :)


Hi Zilbrandy,

Idle time can vary. Any application or utility that preforms disk i/o
activity could cause less idle time. Starting up a computer, using it
heavily, then putting it into stand-by shortly afterwards, can easily cause
no restore point to be created. You may want to let it sit for a while
before putting it into stand-by. Something else I use to do when running XP
was to change the default 24 hour period to 18 hours. I found a better
chance of getting an automatic restore point each day.

Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org
Member: http://dts-l.org
 

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