Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman

[Michael O.]

I want all my envelope addresses to be Times New Roman just as my writing is,
but whenever I click to print an envelope I see Ariel. I have to laboriously
change both the sending and return address using the options bar, then do it
again for the next envelope. Naturally, I tried the format font tool on the
menu bar, choosing Times New Roman and making it my default. But it doesn't
work. What can I do?

 

[Nil]

Re: Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman

On 18 Oct 2008, =?Utf-8?B?TWljaGFlbCBPLg==?=
<MichaelO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

> I want all my envelope addresses to be Times New Roman just as my
> writing is, but whenever I click to print an envelope I see Ariel.
> I have to laboriously change both the sending and return address
> using the options bar, then do it again for the next envelope.
> Naturally, I tried the format font tool on the menu bar, choosing
> Times New Roman and making it my default. But it doesn't work.
> What can I do?

What does this have to do with Windows XP? If, as I assume, your
question is about your word processor (whatever it may be), you should
ask in a group about that topic. This group is about an operating
system.

 

[Alan]

Re: Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman

Hi Michael,

You need to make Times New Roman the default font for Envelopes, rather than
only for the documents that you type.

I'm using Word 2002 -- but I'm sure that the steps are similar in Word 2000
and Word 2003 and probably similar once you find the correct ribbon to do
this in Word 2007.

First, click Tools | Letters and Mailings | Envelopes and Labels. This will
display the Envelopes and Labels dialog box

Click on the Envelopes tab to give it the focus, and then click on the
Options radio button. This brings up the Envelope Options dialog box. Click
on the Envelope Options tab to give that the focus.

Halfway down, you will see two radio buttons -- one for Delivery Address and
one for Return Address. Click on the Font button in the Delivery Address
section. The Envelope Address Font window displays. Select Times New Roman
and the size you wish the font to be.

At the bottom left, click on the Default Radio button. You'll get a message:
"Do you want to change the default address font to (Default) Times New
Roman? This change will affect all new documents based on the NORMAL
template." Click the Yes radio button.

If you want to change the return address to Times New Roman, when you're in
the Envelope Options dialog box, click on the Font button in the Return
Address section and follow the same steps that you used to make Times New
Roman the default for the Delivery address.

Unless you change it, from now on Times New Roman will be the default font
for your envelopes.

Alan

"Michael O." <MichaelO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:161E31B3-A5C6-4D57-B13B-42C5EDD0CB55@microsoft.com...
>I want all my envelope addresses to be Times New Roman just as my writing
>is,
> but whenever I click to print an envelope I see Ariel. I have to
> laboriously
> change both the sending and return address using the options bar, then do
> it
> again for the next envelope. Naturally, I tried the format font tool on
> the
> menu bar, choosing Times New Roman and making it my default. But it
> doesn't
> work. What can I do?

 

[Michael O.]

Re: Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman



"Alan" wrote:

> Hi Michael,
>
> You need to make Times New Roman the default font for Envelopes, rather than
> only for the documents that you type.
>
> I'm using Word 2002 -- but I'm sure that the steps are similar in Word 2000
> and Word 2003 and probably similar once you find the correct ribbon to do
> this in Word 2007.
>
> First, click Tools | Letters and Mailings | Envelopes and Labels. This will
> display the Envelopes and Labels dialog box
>
> Click on the Envelopes tab to give it the focus, and then click on the
> Options radio button. This brings up the Envelope Options dialog box. Click
> on the Envelope Options tab to give that the focus.
>
> Halfway down, you will see two radio buttons -- one for Delivery Address and
> one for Return Address. Click on the Font button in the Delivery Address
> section. The Envelope Address Font window displays. Select Times New Roman
> and the size you wish the font to be.
>
> At the bottom left, click on the Default Radio button. You'll get a message:
> "Do you want to change the default address font to (Default) Times New
> Roman? This change will affect all new documents based on the NORMAL
> template." Click the Yes radio button.
>
> If you want to change the return address to Times New Roman, when you're in
> the Envelope Options dialog box, click on the Font button in the Return
> Address section and follow the same steps that you used to make Times New
> Roman the default for the Delivery address.
>
> Unless you change it, from now on Times New Roman will be the default font
> for your envelopes.
>
> Alan
>
> "Michael O." <MichaelO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:161E31B3-A5C6-4D57-B13B-42C5EDD0CB55@microsoft.com...
> >I want all my envelope addresses to be Times New Roman just as my writing
> >is,
> > but whenever I click to print an envelope I see Ariel. I have to
> > laboriously
> > change both the sending and return address using the options bar, then do
> > it
> > again for the next envelope. Naturally, I tried the format font tool on
> > the
> > menu bar, choosing Times New Roman and making it my default. But it
> > doesn't
> > work. What can I do?
>
> I've tried that many times, but it only works for the envelope I'm addressing at the time. I have to repeat it for every envelope. Clearly I have to change the "normal template" whatever that is. Is there a simple way I can just get rid of ariel which is clearly the basic font of word and make Times New Roman the font that appears when I don't express a choice?

 

[Alan]

Re: Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman

Actually, Times New Roman is the 'normal font for Word documents, while
Arial is the 'normal' font for envelopes.

I'm not sure why -- if you are following the steps I've already indicated --
you are unable to set the default font for envelopes to be Times New Roman
also.

If you want to start with a brand new 'normal' template -- which is named
NORMAL.DOT, first close Word and do a search on your hard drive for
NORMAL.DOT. You might have to set the search to include hidden files.

When you find the already-existing NORMAL. DOT, rename it to NORMAL.OLD.

Then launch Word. A brand new NORMAL.DOT will be created.

Alan

"Michael O." <MichaelO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:09AE1F40-86EF-4E45-954D-1B27D69F4F56@microsoft.com...
>
>
> "Alan" wrote:
>
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> You need to make Times New Roman the default font for Envelopes, rather
>> than
>> only for the documents that you type.
>>
>> I'm using Word 2002 -- but I'm sure that the steps are similar in Word
>> 2000
>> and Word 2003 and probably similar once you find the correct ribbon to do
>> this in Word 2007.
>>
>> First, click Tools | Letters and Mailings | Envelopes and Labels. This
>> will
>> display the Envelopes and Labels dialog box
>>
>> Click on the Envelopes tab to give it the focus, and then click on the
>> Options radio button. This brings up the Envelope Options dialog box.
>> Click
>> on the Envelope Options tab to give that the focus.
>>
>> Halfway down, you will see two radio buttons -- one for Delivery Address
>> and
>> one for Return Address. Click on the Font button in the Delivery Address
>> section. The Envelope Address Font window displays. Select Times New
>> Roman
>> and the size you wish the font to be.
>>
>> At the bottom left, click on the Default Radio button. You'll get a
>> message:
>> "Do you want to change the default address font to (Default) Times New
>> Roman? This change will affect all new documents based on the NORMAL
>> template." Click the Yes radio button.
>>
>> If you want to change the return address to Times New Roman, when you're
>> in
>> the Envelope Options dialog box, click on the Font button in the Return
>> Address section and follow the same steps that you used to make Times New
>> Roman the default for the Delivery address.
>>
>> Unless you change it, from now on Times New Roman will be the default
>> font
>> for your envelopes.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> "Michael O." <MichaelO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:161E31B3-A5C6-4D57-B13B-42C5EDD0CB55@microsoft.com...
>> >I want all my envelope addresses to be Times New Roman just as my
>> >writing
>> >is,
>> > but whenever I click to print an envelope I see Ariel. I have to
>> > laboriously
>> > change both the sending and return address using the options bar, then
>> > do
>> > it
>> > again for the next envelope. Naturally, I tried the format font tool on
>> > the
>> > menu bar, choosing Times New Roman and making it my default. But it
>> > doesn't
>> > work. What can I do?
>>
>> I've tried that many times, but it only works for the envelope I'm
>> addressing at the time. I have to repeat it for every envelope. Clearly I
>> have to change the "normal template" whatever that is. Is there a simple
>> way I can just get rid of ariel which is clearly the basic font of word
>> and make Times New Roman the font that appears when I don't express a
>> choice?

 

[HeyBub]

Re: Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman

Alan wrote:
> Actually, Times New Roman is the 'normal font for Word documents,
> while Arial is the 'normal' font for envelopes.
>

Ariel (or Helvetica) is also recommended by the United States Postal
Service.

http://www.usps.com/businessmail101/addressing/deliveryAddress.htm

They say one should use a "simple type" font, but the example is Ariel.

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Re: Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:48:00 -0700, Michael O.
<MichaelO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> I want all my envelope addresses to be Times New Roman just as my writing is,
> but whenever I click to print an envelope I see Ariel. I have to laboriously
> change both the sending and return address using the options bar, then do it
> again for the next envelope. Naturally, I tried the format font tool on the
> menu bar, choosing Times New Roman and making it my default. But it doesn't
> work. What can I do?


Note that are asking a question about your word processor (without
even telling us what it is) in a Windows XP newsgroup, where it's
inappropriate. Please ask in a Word (or whatever your word processor
is) newsgroup rather than here. That's where the experts in that word
processor hang out, and you are far more likely to get the help you
need there than here.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

 

[Alan]

Re: Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman

I suspect that Times New Roman is also a simple enough font -- for a serif
font -- and it would probably wouldn't give the USPS any problems.

But you're right about Helvetica. It used to be one of the most popular
fonts in the world -- and last year it celebrated its 50th anniversary --
until Microsoft came up with Arial in 1992.

Here are a couple of paragraphs from a piece called "The Helvetica Hegemony"
at http://www.slate.com/id/2166887/?GT1=10034

"...Helvetica has weathered the transition from lead to digital type
remarkably well. Since 1985, every Apple Macintosh computer-the choice of
most graphic designers-has included Helvetica as a "resident font," meaning
that Apple licensed the typeface and embedded it in the system's software.
Microsoft, on the other hand, looked around for a cheaper alternative. In
1992, the company chose Arial, a digital Helvetica knockoff, as the default
font in its Windows software. Since then Arial has spread like a virus, much
to the dismay of graphic designers who dismiss it as a homely imposter.



To an untrained eye, the two typefaces are nearly indistinguishable, though
there are a few telltale differences: Helvetica's lowercase a has a tail;
Arial's doesn't. Helvetica's R has a curved leg; Arial's is straight.
Helvetica's G has a spur on the bottom right; Arial's doesn't. (Designer
Mark Simonson offers a more thorough comparison of the two typefaces here.
Think you can tell them apart? Take the quiz here.



In what you might read as a tacit acknowledgment of Arial's inferiority,
Microsoft chose Helvetica for its own corporate logo..."



Alan



"HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23KWDMpgMJHA.6044@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Alan wrote:
>> Actually, Times New Roman is the 'normal font for Word documents,
>> while Arial is the 'normal' font for envelopes.
>>
>
> Ariel (or Helvetica) is also recommended by the United States Postal
> Service.
>
> http://www.usps.com/businessmail101/addressing/deliveryAddress.htm
>
> They say one should use a "simple type" font, but the example is Ariel.
>

 

[EncinoMan]

Re: Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:48:00 -0700, Michael O.
<MichaelO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I want all my envelope addresses to be Times New Roman just as my writing is,
>but whenever I click to print an envelope I see Ariel. I have to laboriously
>change both the sending and return address using the options bar, then do it
>again for the next envelope. Naturally, I tried the format font tool on the
>menu bar, choosing Times New Roman and making it my default. But it doesn't
>work. What can I do?

And you bring this up here why? XP has no native ability to print
envelopes.

Ask elsewhere

 

[HeyBub]

Re: Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman

Alan wrote:
> I suspect that Times New Roman is also a simple enough font -- for a
> serif font -- and it would probably wouldn't give the USPS any
> problems.
> But you're right about Helvetica. It used to be one of the most
> popular fonts in the world -- and last year it celebrated its 50th
> anniversary -- until Microsoft came up with Arial in 1992.
>
> Here are a couple of paragraphs from a piece called "The Helvetica
> Hegemony" at http://www.slate.com/id/2166887/?GT1=10034
>
> "...Helvetica has weathered the transition from lead to digital type
> remarkably well. Since 1985, every Apple Macintosh computer-the
> choice of most graphic designers-has included Helvetica as a
> "resident font," meaning that Apple licensed the typeface and
> embedded it in the system's software. Microsoft, on the other hand,
> looked around for a cheaper alternative. In 1992, the company chose
> Arial, a digital Helvetica knockoff, as the default font in its
> Windows software. Since then Arial has spread like a virus, much to
> the dismay of graphic designers who dismiss it as a homely imposter.
>
>
> To an untrained eye, the two typefaces are nearly indistinguishable,
> though there are a few telltale differences: Helvetica's lowercase a
> has a tail; Arial's doesn't. Helvetica's R has a curved leg; Arial's
> is straight. Helvetica's G has a spur on the bottom right; Arial's
> doesn't. (Designer Mark Simonson offers a more thorough comparison of
> the two typefaces here. Think you can tell them apart? Take the quiz
> here.
>
>
> In what you might read as a tacit acknowledgment of Arial's
> inferiority, Microsoft chose Helvetica for its own corporate logo..."
>
>

By law, a typeface cannot be copyrighted, but the NAME of the typeface can
be trademarked.

That's why a typeface can be identical to another but named differently.
Microsoft couldn't distribute "Helvetica" without paying a license fee to
its originators, so MS developed "MS Sans Serif" which is virtually
identical to Helvetica.

 

[Alan]

Re: Keeping envelope fonts Times New Roman

Hi HeyBub,

Yes, I know that a typeface cannot be copyrighted, although the name of the
typeface can be. In that respect it's similar to books and movies. TITLES of
books and movies cannot be copyrighted -- although the content of these can
be -- which is why there are many books and movies that have the same names.

As I posted earlier -- and which you have included in your reply -- it's
Arial that is considered a 'knockoff' of Helvetica, rather than MS Sans
Serif.

Please see http://www.ms-studio.com/articlesarialsid.html and
http://www.ms-studio.com/articles.html#Otherarials for more information
about this.

Alan

"HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ed0HbfqMJHA.5232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Alan wrote:
>> I suspect that Times New Roman is also a simple enough font -- for a
>> serif font -- and it would probably wouldn't give the USPS any
>> problems.
>> But you're right about Helvetica. It used to be one of the most
>> popular fonts in the world -- and last year it celebrated its 50th
>> anniversary -- until Microsoft came up with Arial in 1992.
>>
>> Here are a couple of paragraphs from a piece called "The Helvetica
>> Hegemony" at http://www.slate.com/id/2166887/?GT1=10034
>>
>> "...Helvetica has weathered the transition from lead to digital type
>> remarkably well. Since 1985, every Apple Macintosh computer-the
>> choice of most graphic designers-has included Helvetica as a
>> "resident font," meaning that Apple licensed the typeface and
>> embedded it in the system's software. Microsoft, on the other hand,
>> looked around for a cheaper alternative. In 1992, the company chose
>> Arial, a digital Helvetica knockoff, as the default font in its
>> Windows software. Since then Arial has spread like a virus, much to
>> the dismay of graphic designers who dismiss it as a homely imposter.
>>
>>
>> To an untrained eye, the two typefaces are nearly indistinguishable,
>> though there are a few telltale differences: Helvetica's lowercase a
>> has a tail; Arial's doesn't. Helvetica's R has a curved leg; Arial's
>> is straight. Helvetica's G has a spur on the bottom right; Arial's
>> doesn't. (Designer Mark Simonson offers a more thorough comparison of
>> the two typefaces here. Think you can tell them apart? Take the quiz
>> here.
>>
>>
>> In what you might read as a tacit acknowledgment of Arial's
>> inferiority, Microsoft chose Helvetica for its own corporate logo..."
>>
>>
>
> By law, a typeface cannot be copyrighted, but the NAME of the typeface can
> be trademarked.
>
> That's why a typeface can be identical to another but named differently.
> Microsoft couldn't distribute "Helvetica" without paying a license fee to
> its originators, so MS developed "MS Sans Serif" which is virtually
> identical to Helvetica.
>