I use windows 98 and linux

[Shadow]

And my > 5 year old 120 Gb HD is failing, so I bought one of
those nice fast Seagate sata2 320Gb barracuda.
Should I re-frase the subject line to:
"I use linux" ?
Or is there some hope ? I remember when I used windows 95 2Gb
was a big problem, but I solved that with a bios and fdisk update.
TIA

 

[philo]

Re: I use windows 98 and linux


"Shadow" <sh@dow> wrote in message
newsmupf49s5icnumn3gv068ena44518f6ir5@4ax.com...
> And my > 5 year old 120 Gb HD is failing, so I bought one of
> those nice fast Seagate sata2 320Gb barracuda.
> Should I re-frase the subject line to:
> "I use linux" ?
> Or is there some hope ? I remember when I used windows 95 2Gb
> was a big problem, but I solved that with a bios and fdisk update.
> TIA


Yeah, those were the days.

The first PC I ever owned was a P-1 75mhz that my girlfriend purchased in
1995.

By the end up 1999 she got a new one and gave me the old one.

It came with win95...and 850 meg HD
and 8 whopping megs of RAM


I never even looked for a bios update...
I just used overlay software and put in a 20 gig HD

Upgraded the cpu to 200mhz
and installed 128 megs of RAM

I set the machine up with win98 and dual booted with Red Hat Linux 5.2,
later I went to 6, then 7

The machine was finally retired in 2005 and I more or less returned it to
it's original condition when I put it in storage.

When I put that 20 gig drive in there I was neverous as heck...
I just could not imagine a drive that huge!!!


Today, in addition to refurbishing old machines and making them useful
again...
I occasionally build a high end machine for a gamer, or photographer.

One of my friends who uses Photoshop ends up with some very large images...
and since he claims he may want to change some small detail at some later
date...
never collapses his (sometimes) 100 layers.

The file size it sometimes a full gig or so!


He'd have your 320gig drive filled up in a few weeks!!!!


Have fun with it. I'm sure it will be fine for Linux...
but Win98 ...?????

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Re: I use windows 98 and linux

We shall alert the media.

Shadow wrote:
> And my > 5 year old 120 Gb HD is failing, so I bought one of
> those nice fast Seagate sata2 320Gb barracuda.
> Should I re-frase the subject line to:
> "I use linux" ?
> Or is there some hope ? I remember when I used windows 95 2Gb
> was a big problem, but I solved that with a bios and fdisk update.
> TIA

 

[Shadow]

Re: I use windows 98 and linux

On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:10:41 -0500, "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote:

>
>"Shadow" <sh@dow> wrote in message
>newsmupf49s5icnumn3gv068ena44518f6ir5@4ax.com...
>> And my > 5 year old 120 Gb HD is failing, so I bought one of
>> those nice fast Seagate sata2 320Gb barracuda.
>> Should I re-frase the subject line to:
>> "I use linux" ?
>> Or is there some hope ? I remember when I used windows 95 2Gb
>> was a big problem, but I solved that with a bios and fdisk update.
>> TIA
>
>
>Yeah, those were the days.
>
>The first PC I ever owned was a P-1 75mhz that my girlfriend purchased in
>1995.
>
>By the end up 1999 she got a new one and gave me the old one.
>
>It came with win95...and 850 meg HD
>and 8 whopping megs of RAM
Spoilt brat. Mine was a 486-66 with 4 single 1 Mb sticks.
320Mb hard drive. Which still works. 1200 modem. Imb trident
card. And a REAL soundblaster card !!!
Was hard as hell to play doom with video AND sound, but after
a week of juggling memory (with memmaker - then fine tuning by hand) I
finally managed.
Let me see :
ANSI SYS 9.085 31/05/94 6:22 ansi.sys
APPEND EXE 10.838 31/05/94 6:22 append.exe
ATTRIB EXE 11.274 31/05/94 6:22 attrib.exe
AUTOEXEC BAT 1.349 12/03/99 13:28 autoexec.bat
AUTOEXEC UMB 922 13/05/99 16:58 autoexec.umb
CHKDSK EXE 12.441 31/05/94 6:22 chkdsk.exe
CHKSTATE SYS 42.032 31/05/94 6:22 chkstate.sys
CHOICE COM 1.851 31/05/94 6:22 choice.com
COMMAND COM 56.670 31/05/94 6:22 command.com
CONFIG EXE 75.443 31/05/94 6:22 config.exe
CONFIG SYS 453 12/03/99 13:28 config.sys
CONFIG UMB 283 13/05/99 16:25 config.umb
COUNTRY SYS 26.949 31/05/94 6:22 country.sys
DBLWIN HLP 8.661 31/05/94 6:22 dblwin.hlp
DEBUG EXE 16.025 31/05/94 6:22 debug.exe
DEFRAG EXE 79.321 31/05/94 6:22 defrag.exe
DEFRAG HLP 9.588 31/05/94 6:22 defrag.hlp
DELTREE EXE 11.167 31/05/94 6:22 deltree.exe
DIBAPI DLL 26.896 12/10/94 17:45 dibapi.dll
DIR TXT 0 20/10/08 21:25 dir.txt
DISKCOMP COM 10.892 31/05/94 6:22 diskcomp.com
DISKCOPY COM 13.575 31/05/94 6:22 diskcopy.com
DISPLAY SYS 15.860 31/05/94 6:22 display.sys

Ah yes. I have very few HD crashes. I never bothered to delete
DOS when I installed win95, I just moved it to another partition.

[]'s

 

[Shadow]

Re: I use windows 98 and linux

On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:15:07 -0400, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
<PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote:

>We shall alert the media.
Tell Gates I'll give him a week.
[]'s
>
>Shadow wrote:
>> And my > 5 year old 120 Gb HD is failing, so I bought one of
>> those nice fast Seagate sata2 320Gb barracuda.
>> Should I re-frase the subject line to:
>> "I use linux" ?
>> Or is there some hope ? I remember when I used windows 95 2Gb
>> was a big problem, but I solved that with a bios and fdisk update.
>> TIA

 

[philo]

Re: I use windows 98 and linux


"Shadow" <sh@dow> wrote in message
news:9d4qf416mnnli6nig2lj4evkvkq4369ik9@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:10:41 -0500, "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Shadow" <sh@dow> wrote in message
>>newsmupf49s5icnumn3gv068ena44518f6ir5@4ax.com...
>>> And my > 5 year old 120 Gb HD is failing, so I bought one of
>>> those nice fast Seagate sata2 320Gb barracuda.
>>> Should I re-frase the subject line to:
>>> "I use linux" ?
>>> Or is there some hope ? I remember when I used windows 95 2Gb
>>> was a big problem, but I solved that with a bios and fdisk update.
>>> TIA
>>
>>
>>Yeah, those were the days.
>>
>>The first PC I ever owned was a P-1 75mhz that my girlfriend purchased in
>>1995.
>>
>>By the end up 1999 she got a new one and gave me the old one.
>>
>>It came with win95...and 850 meg HD
>>and 8 whopping megs of RAM
> Spoilt brat. Mine was a 486-66 with 4 single 1 Mb sticks.
> 320Mb hard drive. Which still works. 1200 modem. Imb trident
> card. And a REAL soundblaster card !!!
> Was hard as hell to play doom with video AND sound, but after
> a week of juggling memory (with memmaker - then fine tuning by hand) I
> finally managed.
> Let me see :
> ANSI SYS 9.085 31/05/94 6:22 ansi.sys
> APPEND EXE 10.838 31/05/94 6:22 append.exe
> ATTRIB EXE 11.274 31/05/94 6:22 attrib.exe
> AUTOEXEC BAT 1.349 12/03/99 13:28 autoexec.bat
> AUTOEXEC UMB 922 13/05/99 16:58 autoexec.umb
> CHKDSK EXE 12.441 31/05/94 6:22 chkdsk.exe
> CHKSTATE SYS 42.032 31/05/94 6:22 chkstate.sys
> CHOICE COM 1.851 31/05/94 6:22 choice.com
> COMMAND COM 56.670 31/05/94 6:22 command.com
> CONFIG EXE 75.443 31/05/94 6:22 config.exe
> CONFIG SYS 453 12/03/99 13:28 config.sys
> CONFIG UMB 283 13/05/99 16:25 config.umb
> COUNTRY SYS 26.949 31/05/94 6:22 country.sys
> DBLWIN HLP 8.661 31/05/94 6:22 dblwin.hlp
> DEBUG EXE 16.025 31/05/94 6:22 debug.exe
> DEFRAG EXE 79.321 31/05/94 6:22 defrag.exe
> DEFRAG HLP 9.588 31/05/94 6:22 defrag.hlp
> DELTREE EXE 11.167 31/05/94 6:22 deltree.exe
> DIBAPI DLL 26.896 12/10/94 17:45 dibapi.dll
> DIR TXT 0 20/10/08 21:25 dir.txt
> DISKCOMP COM 10.892 31/05/94 6:22 diskcomp.com
> DISKCOPY COM 13.575 31/05/94 6:22 diskcopy.com
> DISPLAY SYS 15.860 31/05/94 6:22 display.sys
>
> Ah yes. I have very few HD crashes. I never bothered to delete
> DOS when I installed win95, I just moved it to another partition.
>
> []'s


neat!

Though I had prior computer experience,
it was back in the days of vacuum tube powered main frames
and punch cards. I hated it.
By 1982 when the whole world was just starting to get into computers...
I left the field. Swore I'd never touch a computer again.

Anyway, when the GF got me hooked on them again...
I decided that rather moving foreward, I had to move backwards
to learn all that I had missed in the years I had been away.

After I had the P1 all setup and I had started to learn about win95, win98
and Linux...
I was given a 386 with an MFM drive...dos 6.22 and windows 3.1

and from there went back and got a bunch of 286's and quite a few 8088's

When I was able to get DOS and win3x at least somewhat figured out...
it was only then that I started moving up and beyond the P1 with win98

etc....

 

[Shadow]

Re: I use windows 98 and linux

On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:51:04 -0500, "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote:

>
>"Shadow" <sh@dow> wrote in message
>news:9d4qf416mnnli6nig2lj4evkvkq4369ik9@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:10:41 -0500, "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote:

>Though I had prior computer experience,
>it was back in the days of vacuum tube powered main frames
>and punch cards. I hated it.
You win grandpa. Though I DID have exams at university I had
to punch holes in cards so the computer could correct them.
But them you were probably the teacher
[]'s

 

[MEB]

Re: I use windows 98 and linux

You didn't give much information, HOWEVER:

Since you bought a SATA2 then you obviously have a newer computer with
on-board support.
There is no native support for SATA2 in 98. IF the computer manufacturer OR
the HD manufacturer provided some driver you MAY be able to partition the
drive to the limits of 98 support.
There are parties who have worked/are working on un-official support. You
may want to check and try some of those drivers/modifications..
As for other ways such as the old "drive overlay" kludge, I have no
information.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
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"Shadow" <sh@dow> wrote in message
newsmupf49s5icnumn3gv068ena44518f6ir5@4ax.com...
| And my > 5 year old 120 Gb HD is failing, so I bought one of
| those nice fast Seagate sata2 320Gb barracuda.
| Should I re-frase the subject line to:
| "I use linux" ?
| Or is there some hope ? I remember when I used windows 95 2Gb
| was a big problem, but I solved that with a bios and fdisk update.
| TIA

 

[philo]

Re: I use windows 98 and linux


"Shadow" <sh@dow> wrote in message
news:579qf45sc0hshod0o82e179q0qc6kt1kfn@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:51:04 -0500, "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Shadow" <sh@dow> wrote in message
> >news:9d4qf416mnnli6nig2lj4evkvkq4369ik9@4ax.com...
> >> On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:10:41 -0500, "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> >Though I had prior computer experience,
> >it was back in the days of vacuum tube powered main frames
> >and punch cards. I hated it.
> You win grandpa. Though I DID have exams at university I had
> to punch holes in cards so the computer could correct them.
> But them you were probably the teacher
> []'s

I was no teacher...just a big dummy with no ability to write a program...
that's why I eventually became a service engineer.

What amazed me when I started college was that in the year 1967 (for gosh
sakes),
they were still using punch cards. Here we were just a few years from
putting a man on the moon
and computers still used punch cards? Absurd.

(BTW: the school did have *one* terminal but that was only for the
upper-classmen)

The real kicker though, was after I graduated and got a job...
I went back to school for additional education...
and I recall still punching cards in the year 1979!!!

There were some terminals, but I never had access to them.

 

[teebo]

Re: I use windows 98 and linux


>> Or is there some hope ?

sure there is hope. assuming your hardware can take the disk.
first find out what computer/motherboard you have.


> You didn't give much information, HOWEVER:
> Since you bought a SATA2 then you obviously have a newer computer with
> on-board support.
> There is no native support for SATA2 in 98. IF the computer manufacturer

yes for windows to support sata one need motherboard-drivers
(is it really driver for the southbridge or the northbridge?)

but perhaps it is instead possible to set PATA compatible mode
for SATA in bios? if your bios have that option to 'emulate' pata

> OR the HD manufacturer provided some driver you MAY be able to partition
> the
> drive to the limits of 98 support.
> There are parties who have worked/are working on un-official support.

assuming drivers for the motherboard is found, I suppose the Enable48BitLBA
patch http://www.msfn.org/board/Enable48BitLBA-Break-1-t78592.html
is allso needed to let win98 use more than first 137GB of the disk?
what windows98-version is you using Shadow?
win98SE should use 4102225F.ZIP and win98 first editition use 4102186F.ZIP
or download from
www.mdgx.com/files/48BITLBA.EXE (98se), www.mdgx.com/files/9848BLBA.EXE
(98)

There is an "Universal ATA driver" in the works too, with Win 9x/ME support
planned ...


if all else fails: there is sata-to-pata converter plugs so you can
connect your sata disk to the normal parallell harddisk contact.
have anyone here tried some?