Re: Creating a LAN on GateWay Laptop?

[W. eWatson]

Re: Creating a LAN on GateWay Laptop?

I have a device, essentially like a camera, that needs a ethernet port
and address, 10:0:0:0. I've created a port on W2000, and can successfully
use it there. I did it years ago by assigning the device to
a LAN. How do I do this in XP Pro?

I tried something like Network Connections via the Control Panel, but it
seems intent on having me deal with a printer or files. On my desktop with
XP Pro, it looks like using the CP will get me to a LAN. Using Help gets me
to two icons, one of which is for a LAN. However, this is not the machine I
need to have the device.
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[Patrick Keenan]

Re: Creating a LAN on GateWay Laptop?

Re: Creating a LAN on GateWay Laptop?


"W. eWatson" <notvalid2@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>I have a device, essentially like a camera, that needs a ethernet port
> and address, 10:0:0:0. I've created a port on W2000, and can successfully
> use it there. I did it years ago by assigning the device to
> a LAN. How do I do this in XP Pro?


If what you're saying is that you need to set your PC to have an IP address
of 10.0.0.0, you do two things. Three, if you don't have a router.

First, if you don't have a router, get one.

Second, you set your router to have an internal address range of 10.0.0.x,
and you set the router's internal address to *not* be 10.0.0.0. Now, let
your PC get an IP address so you can browse, then open a command prompt and
type "ipconfig /all" and press enter. Note the DNS server address. Set
the router so that it does not assign addresses in the 10.0.0.0 range, but
starts, say, at 10.0.0.100.

Third, go into Control Panel, Network, right-click on the network adapter
and choose Properties. Locate the TCP/IP section, choose Properties. Now
select "Use the following IP address" and assign 10.0.0.0, probably
255.255.255.0 as the mask, enter the router's address as the gateway, and
enter the DNS addresses you got above


HTH
-pk

>
> I tried something like Network Connections via the Control Panel, but it
> seems intent on having me deal with a printer or files. On my desktop with
> XP Pro, it looks like using the CP will get me to a LAN. Using Help gets
> me to two icons, one of which is for a LAN. However, this is not the
> machine I need to have the device.
> --
> W. eWatson
>
> (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time)
> Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet
>
> Web Page: <www.speckledwithstars.net/>
>

 

[W. eWatson]

Re: Creating a LAN on GateWay Laptop?

Re: Creating a LAN on GateWay Laptop?

W. eWatson wrote:
> I have a device, essentially like a camera, that needs a ethernet port
> and address, 10:0:0:0. I've created a port on W2000, and can
> successfully use it there. I did it years ago by assigning the device to
> a LAN. How do I do this in XP Pro?
>
> I tried something like Network Connections via the Control Panel, but it
> seems intent on having me deal with a printer or files. On my desktop
> with XP Pro, it looks like using the CP will get me to a LAN. Using Help
> gets me to two icons, one of which is for a LAN. However, this is not
> the machine I need to have the device.
A few more observations. On the desktop, the LAN icon (Network Connections)
shows the LAN I have assigned to the device. It shows, correctly:
Clients for MS
File and Printer Sharing
Internet Protocols

On the later I have:
IP address: 10 0 0 0
subnet mask: 255 0 0 0
The device is a VIA Rhine Ethernet Mask

I got close to this on the laptop. Additionally, it shows Qos Packets, which
I now have unchecked. If I use the same IP/mask above, I get Invalid
combination.

Note two that the laptop has two ethernet connectors. Only one shows up in
Network Connections: Marvel. Why no second one? Maybe it's that way since I
have only one connector in use.


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[W. eWatson]

Re: Creating a LAN on GateWay Laptop?

Re: Creating a LAN on GateWay Laptop?

Patrick Keenan wrote:
> "W. eWatson" <notvalid2@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:aFQLk.5677$be.5341@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
>> I have a device, essentially like a camera, that needs a ethernet port
>> and address, 10:0:0:0. I've created a port on W2000, and can successfully
>> use it there. I did it years ago by assigning the device to
>> a LAN. How do I do this in XP Pro?
>
>
> If what you're saying is that you need to set your PC to have an IP address
> of 10.0.0.0, you do two things. Three, if you don't have a router.
>
> First, if you don't have a router, get one.
>
> Second, you set your router to have an internal address range of 10.0.0.x,
> and you set the router's internal address to *not* be 10.0.0.0. Now, let
> your PC get an IP address so you can browse, then open a command prompt and
> type "ipconfig /all" and press enter. Note the DNS server address. Set
> the router so that it does not assign addresses in the 10.0.0.0 range, but
> starts, say, at 10.0.0.100.
>
> Third, go into Control Panel, Network, right-click on the network adapter
> and choose Properties. Locate the TCP/IP section, choose Properties. Now
> select "Use the following IP address" and assign 10.0.0.0, probably
> 255.255.255.0 as the mask, enter the router's address as the gateway, and
> enter the DNS addresses you got above
>
....

A router? I wouldn't have guessed. Why? On my desktop, I have no router. It
has two ethernet cards. One is for my LAN, and the other for the camera device.
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[Paul]

Re: Creating a LAN on GateWay Laptop?

Re: Creating a LAN on GateWay Laptop?

W. eWatson wrote:
> Patrick Keenan wrote:
>> "W. eWatson" <notvalid2@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:aFQLk.5677$be.5341@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>> I have a device, essentially like a camera, that needs a ethernet port
>>> and address, 10:0:0:0. I've created a port on W2000, and can
>>> successfully use it there. I did it years ago by assigning the device to
>>> a LAN. How do I do this in XP Pro?
>>
>>
>> If what you're saying is that you need to set your PC to have an IP
>> address of 10.0.0.0, you do two things. Three, if you don't have a
>> router.
>>
>> First, if you don't have a router, get one.
>>
>> Second, you set your router to have an internal address range of
>> 10.0.0.x, and you set the router's internal address to *not* be
>> 10.0.0.0. Now, let your PC get an IP address so you can browse,
>> then open a command prompt and type "ipconfig /all" and press enter.
>> Note the DNS server address. Set the router so that it does not
>> assign addresses in the 10.0.0.0 range, but starts, say, at 10.0.0.100.
>>
>> Third, go into Control Panel, Network, right-click on the network
>> adapter and choose Properties. Locate the TCP/IP section, choose
>> Properties. Now select "Use the following IP address" and assign
>> 10.0.0.0, probably 255.255.255.0 as the mask, enter the router's
>> address as the gateway, and enter the DNS addresses you got above
>>
> ...
>
> A router? I wouldn't have guessed. Why? On my desktop, I have no router.
> It has two ethernet cards. One is for my LAN, and the other for the
> camera device.

I tried looking at ICS (Internet Connection Sharing), but that
doesn't allow you to control the IP address of the second NIC.
It ends up set up for a fixed subnet (192.168.0.x).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_connection_sharing

I found this option, and at least it looks like you can assign
addresses with this one.

http://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles_tutorials/wxpbrdge.html

Paul

 

[W. eWatson]

Re: Creating a LAN on GateWay Laptop?

Re: Creating a LAN on GateWay Laptop?

Paul wrote:
> W. eWatson wrote:
>> Patrick Keenan wrote:
>>> "W. eWatson" <notvalid2@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>> news:aFQLk.5677$be.5341@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>>> I have a device, essentially like a camera, that needs a ethernet port
>>>> and address, 10:0:0:0. I've created a port on W2000, and can
>>>> successfully use it there. I did it years ago by assigning the
>>>> device to
>>>> a LAN. How do I do this in XP Pro?
>>>
>>>
>>> If what you're saying is that you need to set your PC to have an IP
>>> address of 10.0.0.0, you do two things. Three, if you don't have
>>> a router.
>>>
>>> First, if you don't have a router, get one.
>>>
>>> Second, you set your router to have an internal address range of
>>> 10.0.0.x, and you set the router's internal address to *not* be
>>> 10.0.0.0. Now, let your PC get an IP address so you can browse,
>>> then open a command prompt and type "ipconfig /all" and press
>>> enter. Note the DNS server address. Set the router so that it
>>> does not assign addresses in the 10.0.0.0 range, but starts, say, at
>>> 10.0.0.100.
>>>
>>> Third, go into Control Panel, Network, right-click on the network
>>> adapter and choose Properties. Locate the TCP/IP section, choose
>>> Properties. Now select "Use the following IP address" and assign
>>> 10.0.0.0, probably 255.255.255.0 as the mask, enter the router's
>>> address as the gateway, and enter the DNS addresses you got above
>>>
>> ...
>>
>> A router? I wouldn't have guessed. Why? On my desktop, I have no
>> router. It has two ethernet cards. One is for my LAN, and the other
>> for the camera device.
>
> I tried looking at ICS (Internet Connection Sharing), but that
> doesn't allow you to control the IP address of the second NIC.
> It ends up set up for a fixed subnet (192.168.0.x).
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_connection_sharing
>
> I found this option, and at least it looks like you can assign
> addresses with this one.
>
> http://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles_tutorials/wxpbrdge.html
>
> Paul
My networking knowledge is minimal, but I've managed to put together a LAN
of 4-5 computers over several years, and add the camera device to one
desktop PC. I tried ICS once several years ago, and it didn't help my need
then. As for the second link, it uses a router. I'd really like to know why
I router is necessary? As said above, I've already done it w/o a router on
the W2000 desktop PC.

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[Patrick Keenan]

Re: Creating a LAN on GateWay Laptop?

Re: Creating a LAN on GateWay Laptop?

"W. eWatson" <notvalid2@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:UkRLk.5680$be.1028@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
> Patrick Keenan wrote:
>> "W. eWatson" <notvalid2@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:aFQLk.5677$be.5341@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>> I have a device, essentially like a camera, that needs a ethernet port
>>> and address, 10:0:0:0. I've created a port on W2000, and can
>>> successfully use it there. I did it years ago by assigning the device to
>>> a LAN. How do I do this in XP Pro?
>>
>>
>> If what you're saying is that you need to set your PC to have an IP
>> address of 10.0.0.0, you do two things. Three, if you don't have a
>> router.
>>
>> First, if you don't have a router, get one.
>>
>> Second, you set your router to have an internal address range of
>> 10.0.0.x, and you set the router's internal address to *not* be 10.0.0.0.
>> Now, let your PC get an IP address so you can browse, then open a
>> command prompt and type "ipconfig /all" and press enter. Note the DNS
>> server address. Set the router so that it does not assign addresses in
>> the 10.0.0.0 range, but starts, say, at 10.0.0.100.
>>
>> Third, go into Control Panel, Network, right-click on the network
>> adapter and choose Properties. Locate the TCP/IP section, choose
>> Properties. Now select "Use the following IP address" and assign
>> 10.0.0.0, probably 255.255.255.0 as the mask, enter the router's address
>> as the gateway, and enter the DNS addresses you got above
>>
> ...
>
> A router? I wouldn't have guessed. Why? On my desktop, I have no router.
> It has two ethernet cards. One is for my LAN, and the other for the camera
> device.

Then set the TCP/IP properties to the fixed address for the camera's
adapter, as described above.

HTH
-pk


> --
> W. eWatson
>
> (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time)
> Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet
>
> Web Page: <www.speckledwithstars.net/>
>

 

[W. eWatson]

Re: Creating a LAN on GateWay Laptop?

Re: Creating a LAN on GateWay Laptop?

Patrick Keenan wrote:
> "W. eWatson" <notvalid2@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:UkRLk.5680$be.1028@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
>> Patrick Keenan wrote:
>>> "W. eWatson" <notvalid2@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>> news:aFQLk.5677$be.5341@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>>> I have a device, essentially like a camera, that needs a ethernet port
>>>> and address, 10:0:0:0. I've created a port on W2000, and can
>>>> successfully use it there. I did it years ago by assigning the device to
>>>> a LAN. How do I do this in XP Pro?
>>>
>>> If what you're saying is that you need to set your PC to have an IP
>>> address of 10.0.0.0, you do two things. Three, if you don't have a
>>> router.
>>>
>>> First, if you don't have a router, get one.
>>>
>>> Second, you set your router to have an internal address range of
>>> 10.0.0.x, and you set the router's internal address to *not* be 10.0.0.0.
>>> Now, let your PC get an IP address so you can browse, then open a
>>> command prompt and type "ipconfig /all" and press enter. Note the DNS
>>> server address. Set the router so that it does not assign addresses in
>>> the 10.0.0.0 range, but starts, say, at 10.0.0.100.
>>>
>>> Third, go into Control Panel, Network, right-click on the network
>>> adapter and choose Properties. Locate the TCP/IP section, choose
>>> Properties. Now select "Use the following IP address" and assign
>>> 10.0.0.0, probably 255.255.255.0 as the mask, enter the router's address
>>> as the gateway, and enter the DNS addresses you got above
>>>
>> ...
>>
>> A router? I wouldn't have guessed. Why? On my desktop, I have no router.
>> It has two ethernet cards. One is for my LAN, and the other for the camera
>> device.
>
> Then set the TCP/IP properties to the fixed address for the camera's
> adapter, as described above.
>


I'll try it again (no router), but I think I got a msg that said there was a
conflict. Hmmm, I don't see that I mentioned that above. Oh, well back to
try this again. (Explanation for message below.)

Why doesn't the lap top see the second ethernet connector? Of course,
nothing is plugged into it. Is that it? Geeze, the "second" one is a modem
connector, but the appearance is very slightly different. In fact, the only
difference appears to be a small symbol above it. Yikes.

Yikes, some more. I had been walking 100' between the desktop and laptop to
work this out, since I wanted to be near the device, a special camera. I
took the laptop and put it next to the desktop, and see the ip address
should have been 10:0:0:1. The last was 0 as above. Until I changed that I
was getting an bad combo conflict. It all works now. Thanks.

How does a router help?

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