32bit aps fail on win2k3 64bit server after MS Updates

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after a recent windows up date allot of my 32 bit aps are failing, even the
32bit explorer failes while the 64 bit explorer runs fine, I removed the
updates but it never helped any thing

any ideas? or even where I can look will be helpful
 
Re: 32bit aps fail on win2k3 64bit server after MS Updates

you really don't give us much information to work with. What is the failure?
When you say 32-bit Explorer, do you mean IE or Windows Explorer? What other
apps fail? Are you on a domain? Or a workgroup? What is your hardware
configuration?

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http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Malboeuf" <Malboeuf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:00B21E1E-2803-40A9-B1F1-C9892E74E827@microsoft.com...
> after a recent windows up date allot of my 32 bit aps are failing, even
> the
> 32bit explorer failes while the 64 bit explorer runs fine, I removed the
> updates but it never helped any thing
>
> any ideas? or even where I can look will be helpful
 
Re: 32bit aps fail on win2k3 64bit server after MS Updates

its one of our Game servers in the UK, its running the following
Windows server 64bit Eval (20 days so far)
Intel Quad core e6600, 4GB 1066RAM Dual DDR2, Asus P5B motherboard, 2 320GB
SATA300 Hard drives

now when I launch Explorer 32bit it starts but cant seem to access any web
sites, it says Page cannot be found, I even tried http:// with our other
servers IP and it still cannot see any sites

our 32 bit FTP program seems to be failing a well it seems on but you cant
connect to it, thwe run Serv-U on that server as we dont need it for web
hosting yet, when we do get it ready for IIS I'll change back to MS FTP

the game servers are 32bit and when run they start, and just when they show
the port info and connection port they just shut off and report the error to
windows

this is what they report
____

Faulting application OFPR_SOF_Server.exe, version 1.0.0.96, faulting module
OFPR_SOF_Server.exe, version 1.0.0.96, fault address 0x0000b0b0.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
_____

my service manager FireDeamon is failing to start as well now and is
crashing constantly it reports

______

Subprocess monitoring failed due to subprocess is no longer active. The
subprocess is probably dead. Restarting the process. Error detail: N/A
_______


I do have to do some research on our game servers crashing, each use about
600MB and it seems when they all reach that they randomly fail, I think that
is a 32bit RAM issue that I'll look more into, but in the mean even Im sure
this is related to any net work port accessing by 32bit programs, if i run
32bit programs that do not access the network then they seem to work

"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> you really don't give us much information to work with. What is the failure?
> When you say 32-bit Explorer, do you mean IE or Windows Explorer? What other
> apps fail? Are you on a domain? Or a workgroup? What is your hardware
> configuration?
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "Malboeuf" <Malboeuf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:00B21E1E-2803-40A9-B1F1-C9892E74E827@microsoft.com...
> > after a recent windows up date allot of my 32 bit aps are failing, even
> > the
> > 32bit explorer failes while the 64 bit explorer runs fine, I removed the
> > updates but it never helped any thing
> >
> > any ideas? or even where I can look will be helpful
>
 
Re: 32bit aps fail on win2k3 64bit server after MS Updates

ohh update

when I said
now when I launch Explorer 32bit it starts but cant seem to access any web
sites, it says Page cannot be found, I even tried http:// with our other
servers IP and it still cannot see any sites

I forgot to mention that 64bit explorer works fine, and I can also connect
to the remote desktop still
 
Re: 32bit aps fail on win2k3 64bit server after MS Updates

Im pretty sure I either some how shut off wow64 ir it has become corrupted,
any Ideas on how to repair it, my os comes with SP2 so its not like I can un
install SP1 to remove wow64 :(

my head works better in 10s, 32bit and 64bit makes me want to scream hahahah
 
Re: 32bit aps fail on win2k3 64bit server after MS Updates

If it is corrupted, I'm not a server person, but can't you run sfc /scan
now and repair as in XP?

"Malboeuf" <Malboeuf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B4DF367F-4352-460F-8FE8-EF0B5A689647@microsoft.com...
> Im pretty sure I either some how shut off wow64 ir it has become
> corrupted,
> any Ideas on how to repair it, my os comes with SP2 so its not like I can
> un
> install SP1 to remove wow64 :(
>
> my head works better in 10s, 32bit and 64bit makes me want to scream
> hahahah
 
Re: 32bit aps fail on win2k3 64bit server after MS Updates

wow64 must be working, but what ever it uses to access the network is failing

C:\WINDOWS\SysWOW64\CMD.EXE
will fail if I ping a web site
but if I use
C:\WINDOWS\system32\CMD.EXE
the ping returns with no problems

we're getting close now but im still going to cry over the down time we've had


"John Barnes" wrote:

> If it is corrupted, I'm not a server person, but can't you run sfc /scan
> now and repair as in XP?
>
> "Malboeuf" <Malboeuf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B4DF367F-4352-460F-8FE8-EF0B5A689647@microsoft.com...
> > Im pretty sure I either some how shut off wow64 ir it has become
> > corrupted,
> > any Ideas on how to repair it, my os comes with SP2 so its not like I can
> > un
> > install SP1 to remove wow64 :(
> >
> > my head works better in 10s, 32bit and 64bit makes me want to scream
> > hahahah
>
>
 
stablizing High MEM usage 32 bit apps on 64bit server

stablizing High MEM usage 32 bit apps on 64bit server

I have 5 win2k3 32bit enterprise dual core servers with 2GB of ram

but on my one test win2k3 64bit enterprise quad core with 4GB of ram server
I have notice that my four 32bit Apps using 600MB each randomly fail every
day while the 32bit servers run them stable for months

does any one have any idea how to get these 32bit aps to run better on the
win2k3 64bit Enterprise server, I know it must be the RAM

I tried the 32bit server with 4GB of ram and PAE and they are nothing but a
waste of time as they crash the apps hourly (two high memory usage apps will
try to use the same memory location and crash constantlly - microsoft hides
this information really well)

I do have allot of experience with the 32 bit server so if we need to get
deep into this I can follow whats going on
 
Re: stablizing High MEM usage 32 bit apps on 64bit server

Re: stablizing High MEM usage 32 bit apps on 64bit server

Have you run a thorough memory test? The 64-bit os uses memory differently
and we have had a number of previous situations where memory worked on XP86
but failed on XP64.

"Malboeuf" <Malboeuf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E9A96A70-E5BF-4872-BD29-BF8988019019@microsoft.com...
>I have 5 win2k3 32bit enterprise dual core servers with 2GB of ram
>
> but on my one test win2k3 64bit enterprise quad core with 4GB of ram
> server
> I have notice that my four 32bit Apps using 600MB each randomly fail every
> day while the 32bit servers run them stable for months
>
> does any one have any idea how to get these 32bit aps to run better on the
> win2k3 64bit Enterprise server, I know it must be the RAM
>
> I tried the 32bit server with 4GB of ram and PAE and they are nothing but
> a
> waste of time as they crash the apps hourly (two high memory usage apps
> will
> try to use the same memory location and crash constantlly - microsoft
> hides
> this information really well)
>
> I do have allot of experience with the 32 bit server so if we need to get
> deep into this I can follow whats going on
 
Re: 32bit aps fail on win2k3 64bit server after MS Updates

I ran ipconfig in the cmd(32bit) and I got the following
--------------------------
C:\WINDOWS\SysWOW64>ipconfig /renew

Windows IP Configuration

The operation failed as no adapter is in the state permissible for
this operation.
---------------------------------------------

interesting

"John Barnes" wrote:

> If it is corrupted, I'm not a server person, but can't you run sfc /scan
> now and repair as in XP?
>
> "Malboeuf" <Malboeuf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B4DF367F-4352-460F-8FE8-EF0B5A689647@microsoft.com...
> > Im pretty sure I either some how shut off wow64 ir it has become
> > corrupted,
> > any Ideas on how to repair it, my os comes with SP2 so its not like I can
> > un
> > install SP1 to remove wow64 :(
> >
> > my head works better in 10s, 32bit and 64bit makes me want to scream
> > hahahah
>
>
 
Re: 32bit aps fail on win2k3 64bit server after MS Updates

had to boot into console mode via RDP to access it, I got sfc /scannow
running now

"John Barnes" wrote:

> If it is corrupted, I'm not a server person, but can't you run sfc /scan
> now and repair as in XP?
>
> "Malboeuf" <Malboeuf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B4DF367F-4352-460F-8FE8-EF0B5A689647@microsoft.com...
> > Im pretty sure I either some how shut off wow64 ir it has become
> > corrupted,
> > any Ideas on how to repair it, my os comes with SP2 so its not like I can
> > un
> > install SP1 to remove wow64 :(
> >
> > my head works better in 10s, 32bit and 64bit makes me want to scream
> > hahahah
>
>
 
Re: 32bit aps fail on win2k3 64bit server after MS Updates

it ran then ended so no idea, gonna reboot and see what happens


"Malboeuf" wrote:

> had to boot into console mode via RDP to access it, I got sfc /scannow
> running now
>
> "John Barnes" wrote:
>
> > If it is corrupted, I'm not a server person, but can't you run sfc /scan
> > now and repair as in XP?
> >
> > "Malboeuf" <Malboeuf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:B4DF367F-4352-460F-8FE8-EF0B5A689647@microsoft.com...
> > > Im pretty sure I either some how shut off wow64 ir it has become
> > > corrupted,
> > > any Ideas on how to repair it, my os comes with SP2 so its not like I can
> > > un
> > > install SP1 to remove wow64 :(
> > >
> > > my head works better in 10s, 32bit and 64bit makes me want to scream
> > > hahahah
> >
> >
 
Re: 32bit aps fail on win2k3 64bit server after MS Updates

Since that should eliminate your corruption possibility, you have settings
or memory. I still think running a thorough memory test is your best bet
given the symptoms you have.

"Malboeuf" <Malboeuf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F6F2A0FC-3CCE-4034-9058-A2F61759B6EA@microsoft.com...
> it ran then ended so no idea, gonna reboot and see what happens
>
>
> "Malboeuf" wrote:
>
>> had to boot into console mode via RDP to access it, I got sfc /scannow
>> running now
>>
>> "John Barnes" wrote:
>>
>> > If it is corrupted, I'm not a server person, but can't you run sfc
>> > /scan
>> > now and repair as in XP?
>> >
>> > "Malboeuf" <Malboeuf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:B4DF367F-4352-460F-8FE8-EF0B5A689647@microsoft.com...
>> > > Im pretty sure I either some how shut off wow64 ir it has become
>> > > corrupted,
>> > > any Ideas on how to repair it, my os comes with SP2 so its not like I
>> > > can
>> > > un
>> > > install SP1 to remove wow64 :(
>> > >
>> > > my head works better in 10s, 32bit and 64bit makes me want to scream
>> > > hahahah
>> >
>> >
 
Re: 32bit aps fail on win2k3 64bit server after MS Updates

these were the Updates for the server the day this all started happening
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=921503
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=925398
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=927891
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=935966
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=938127
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=937143


"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> you really don't give us much information to work with. What is the failure?
> When you say 32-bit Explorer, do you mean IE or Windows Explorer? What other
> apps fail? Are you on a domain? Or a workgroup? What is your hardware
> configuration?
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "Malboeuf" <Malboeuf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:00B21E1E-2803-40A9-B1F1-C9892E74E827@microsoft.com...
> > after a recent windows up date allot of my 32 bit aps are failing, even
> > the
> > 32bit explorer failes while the 64 bit explorer runs fine, I removed the
> > updates but it never helped any thing
> >
> > any ideas? or even where I can look will be helpful
>
 

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