Re: !0 Minutes Internet Stops
N. Miller wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:15:39 -0400, Heather wrote:
>
>> "N. Miller" <anonymous@msnews.aosake.net> wrote in message
>> news:1przrzxt18x0i$.dlg@msnews.aosake.net...
>
>>> On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 22:23:08 -0400, Heather wrote:
>
>>>> Heather (from the best part of Canada.....cough, lol)
>
>>> The best part of Canada is in the West: British Columbia, east to
>>> Lake Louise. No farther east, though. Manitoba and Saskatchewan are
>>> just too
>>> flat, Quebec is too Continental (as in European), and Ontario is too
>>> pink.
>>> The Maritimes are okay, though.
>
>> Gee Norman......you are going to half hate yourself. LOL.
>
> I don't know why you would say that.
>
>> 1. Daughter Elayne lives in downtown Vancouver, overlooking Stanley
>> Park and English Bay.
>
> I don't think it is much different from Seattle, in most respects.
>
>> 2. My father and his forebears are from Prince Edward Island. I
>> have the red hair and freckles to prove it.
>
> If it wasn't for the Royal Navy, Maine would probably also be amongst
> the Maritime Province. They are called "Down East" because they are
> down, and east of the rest of Canada. Stupid Brits kept pressing the
> Main fisher crews into service in the Royal Navy, which drove the
> "Down Easters" into our campe.
>
>> 3. We LOVE Quebec....for precisely the reason you don't. It is so
>> European. But we go there every year or so for a holiday.
>
> Two of the worlds bloodiest wars were starte by those Europeans. And
> they consider themselves "civilized".
>
It's just 'people', Norm. The real problem is people who don't see the
reality, that it is so short a time since torture and murder were so much a
part of daily existence that it was 'the way of the world'. Medieval times
were only 'yesterday', the time of The Inquisition - to mention merely the
most notorious phase - was only yesterday. Just as WWII ended a mere 15
years before I was born, a time I grew up thinking of as 'a lifetime ago',
but as you get older and realise for instance, The Falklands, was longer ago
now, than WWII was when *I* entered the world!
Children here - of my generation anyway - grew up with tank traps as part of
the landscape. You know something, Norm? Yes, Americans grow up differently
to the British simply by virtue of the size of landmass about them. It has a
psychological effect that incorporates into their development. There are
still pillboxes, here, that never got used because Hitler didn't invade
(they tend to smell like latrines). There is a big difference in growing up
in the shadow of war *where you play your games of 'cowboys and indians'*
(lol!) as opposed to where the only threats you're aware of are handed down
to you by lying, stinking politicians and other bigots.
It was all 'only yesterday' - and the driving purpose of the EEC was to make
sure France and Germany would not go to war against each other again.
We English spent most of our existence at war with the French, but all my
life we've been allies and the idea of war between us is absurd. I go to
France, I enjoy it, I get on well with the French. I am very far from the
only one.
It isn't 'Europeans', Norm, it's 'People'. Most of the Europeans have learnt
the lesson. The problem is the people who don't - the bigots, the bounders
in their refuge. 'Patriotism' is the problem. It is an expression of that
within us that attempts to justify all of our greed and small-mindedness,
our jealousy and covetousness, to instead of making an effort to become
better people, to deceive ourselves that everything we do is noble so we can
just carry on as we've always done, pointing the finger at those who are
different (and *what* a bonanza, eh?, if they happen to *look* different
too!). You seem to be championing the cause of not making any effort and
just continue talking the simple-minded out of their money, which *is* the
sole alternative. The way you talk, Norm, at every opportunity, you come
across - except to the ones just like you - as the type who really wouldn't
have minded if slavery had never been abolished, if women had never got the
vote, if the poor were still put in workhouses. After all, that is the
world - that you imply we're still in over here - that invading other
nations belongs in.
Yes, most of us *are* civilised. Blair isn't, which is how come he's popular
with that imbecile and the liars and thieves who pull those strings you
can't see. It's you lot who are still children and haven't learnt. It does
show how misleading 'Common Sense' can be, though! Intelligent people would
have thought you'd be capable of recognising mass murder in the name of
naked greed cheered on by the supposedly Christian (who do the work of the
devil, ROFL!). Unless you're a liar who doesn't care as long as there's
money in it.
Shane