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Re: COLA Stats 'Quality' Poster calculation
On Aug 24, 11:12 am, "[H]omer" <s...@uce.gov> wrote:
> This is the relevant (computational) section of Roy Culley's ngstats.pl,
> WRT 'Quality' Posters.
>
> This is the last ... and I /mean/ the *very* last time I am *ever* going
> to discuss this subject.
>
> Any further comment on the matter will be completely ignored by me.
> Anything anyone still doesn't believe about the integrity of these stats
> from now on, that's their own problem. I simply don't give a rats arse.
>
> Although no explicit license was stated, copyright remains with Roy
> Culley. The only modifications I have made were with explicit
> permission, and affected only formatting (and the removal of references
> to specific posters like Kadaicha Man, who is long gone). Further to
> that, I use various wrappers (bash) for error checking and post
> submission. None of that has any bearing on actual statistics
> whatsoever. This is as much of the script as I will *ever* make public.
> Don't like it? Tough:
>
> ####
> sub QualityPosters {
> my($XP, $Q, $F, $T, $FullFrom, $LastXPostQ);
> my $Cnt = 1;
> foreach my $Poster (keys %FromName) {
> next if $FromName{$Poster} < 6;
> $XP = int((($FromName{$Poster} - $XPost{$Poster}) /
> $FromName{$Poster}) * 100);
> if ($QuoteFrom{$Poster}) {
> $Q = 100 - $QuoteFrom{$Poster};
> }
> else {
> $Q = 0;
> }
> if ($DirReply{$Poster} > $FromName{$Poster}) {
> $F = $DirReply{$Poster} - $FromName{$Poster} + 50;
> }
> else {
> $F = $FromName{$Poster} - $DirReply{$Poster} ;
> }
> if (exists $TrollCntFrom{$Poster}) {
> $T = (100 - (2.0 * $TrollCntFrom{$Poster}));
> }
> else {
> $T = 100;
> }
>
> $XPostQ{$Poster} = int(($XP + $Q + $F + $T) / 4);
> $XPostQ{$Poster} -= 75 if exists $FromTroll{$Poster};
> }
>
> IOW, just like it reads in the weekly posting:
>
> "The poster 'quality' stats is based on:
> a) quoting: 100 - %'age quoted
> b) cross-posting: 100 - %'age cross-posted
> c) number of direct followups posters articles get
> d) troll feeding: 100 - 2.0 * %'age troll followups
> e) 75 deducted for known trolls"
>
> Everything else in the script is merely about counting total posts, and
> formatting the output. There is no "conspiracy". What you see is what
> you get.
>
> There are very infrequent errors (mostly caused by power outages beyond
> my control). E.g. DFS noted that too many posts had been attributed to
> him in the course of one particular week (timestamps were messed up).
> The fact that *too many* posts were attributed to someone I classify as
> a Troll, should be some indication to the cynics that anomalies (if any)
> are *not* being deliberately introduced.
>
> I do now have an UPS in place, although the quality of my energy
> supplier's service in this area is so poor, that it occassionally takes
> them longer to restore service than the lifespan of the UPS charge. As a
> result of this, I have chained several UPS together, and this should
> provide a full 24 hours of battery life for that server at full load
> (yes it did once take my energy supplier *that* long to restore
> service). Anomalies with the Stats should now be very rare.
>
> For the purposes of these stats, the "known Trolls" are as follows:
>
> (ACDC|amicus_curious):::amicus_curious - Troll
> Alexander Terekhov:::Alexander Terekhov - Facist Troll
> Aunty Diluvian:::flatfish [nyms] - Mental-Ward Escapee
> Bill Gates:::Oxford - Mac Looney
> cc:::cc - Shifty MS Apologist
> Derk den Klotsoksel::
erk den Klotsoksel - Troll
> (dfs|DFS)::ooFy - Money-Obsessed Goon
> Dom::om - Idiot
> Erik Funkenbusch:::Ewik FUDenbusch
> Ian Semmel:::Ian Semmel - WinTroll / Idiot
> i...@block.spam:::"Scottish" Mike - Troll Apprentice
> JD Cantafio:::JD Cantafio - Troll
> Jeff_Relf:::Jeff_Relf - .Net k00k
> Joerg Schilling:::Joerg Schilling - 'Superior' Software Developer
> Larry Qualig:::Larry 'Msg-ID Larry' Qualig - Vile MS Shill
> Lintard:::Lintard - Moronic Goon
> linux-sux:::Scott [Nudds] Douglas [nyms] - Looney Troll
> Meat Plow:::flatfish [nyms] - Mental-Ward Escapee
> Mike Cox:::Idiotic Attention Seeker
> OK:::OK - MS Apologist and Liar
> Oliver Wong:::Oliver Wrong - MS Apologist
> (oxford|Oxford):::Oxford - Mac Looney
> Sandman:::Sandman - Mac Troll
> snit:::snit - Ridiculous MAC Troll
> Tim Smith:::Timmy 'Funkenbusch Wannabee' Smith
> Toad:::Toad - Troll
> waterskidoo:::waterskidoo - Troll
>
> This is by no means the full list, but merely some of the more infamous
> or recent entries. The full list is far too long (goes back years) to
> post here. In particular, the number of flatfish nyms would require
> several pages just by itself.
>
> Certain posters are dropped completely and simply not counted at all,
> due to the extremity of their behaviour (leafnode filter):
>
> ^From:.*(?i)Alexander Terekhov
> ^From:.*(?i)raylopez99
> ^From:.*(?i)Capt.*Morgan
> ^From:.*(?i)Dr(\.|\ )
> ^From:.*(?i)Mr(\.|\ )
> ^Newsgroups:.*24hoursupport.helpdesk.*
> ^Newsgroups:.*alt\.idiots.*
> ^Newsgroups:.*alt\.flame.*
> ^Newsgroups:.*alt\.politics.*
> ^Newsgroups:.*comp\.sys\.mac\.advocacy.*
>
> The above is the *complete* filter used by COLA Stats, anything else
> that you think /should/ have gotten through but didn't, is an issue with
> SuperNews (my uplink), not the script.
>
> Placement in the killfile or Trolls list is not necessarily permanent
> (e.g. this week sees the return of Hadron from the bitbucket, and Bailo
> is out of the Trolls list).
>
> There is *zero* manual intervention with this automated process. No
> post-processing is done by me at all. The only time that would ever
> happen, would be if the script fscked up and sent an empty/corrupted
> post (did happen once - my fault). If the text file
> "advocate-of-the-week.txt" is present, it is also automatically picked
> up by a wrapper for the COLA Stats script, if not then that section is
> blank. Again, this requires no manual intervention with the actual stats
> process (once a week, I pick out a good post and send it to the above
> text file. Haven't done that recently).
>
> Final comments:
>
> COLA is an unmoderated group. Neither I nor anyone else "owns" COLA. The
> weekly Stats post is merely a voluntary contribution that I do not have
> any exclusive rights to, which I make for the sake of interest and fun only.
>
> The script used was *not* written by me, and is not "owned" by me, but I
> merely use it. Refusing to *release* the source to software that is
> *not* publicly distributed, is *not* in contradiction to the principles
> of Free Software. *If* it *is* distributed, then it should be licensed,
> and if it is licensed, then I'd prefer software to be licensed under the
> GPL. This does *not* mean that *everyone* is *obligated* to release
> *every* piece of software they ever write for their own purposes ... or
> any other private works. Those who cry "hypocrisy" (including some who
> purport to be "advocates") need to shut their fat gobs and engage their
> braincells ... assuming they have that capacity.
>
> As for the weekly post itself ... don't like it? Don't read it. But quit
> bitching and get a life. Better yet, just stop Trolling. If you don't
> like GNU/Linux, you don't belong here - so piss off. Just my opinion.
>
> --
> K.http://slated.org
>
> .----
> | "Proprietary licenses, the crack cocaine of software finance."
> | - Matt Asay, CNET
> `----
>
> Fedora release 7 (Moonshine) on sky, running kernel 2.6.22.1-41.fc7
> 17:11:05 up 15 days, 16:06, 3 users, load average: 0.25, 0.19, 0.20
And this ladies and gentlemen is a perfect, textbook reason why you
should NEVER GET INVOLVED WITH OPEN SOURCE PROGRAMS!
All it takes is for the programmer to have a hissy fit, like Homer,
and that's the end of the project.
Meanwhile you and your company are left holding the bag.
SAY NO TO OPEN SOURCE!
On Aug 24, 11:12 am, "[H]omer" <s...@uce.gov> wrote:
> This is the relevant (computational) section of Roy Culley's ngstats.pl,
> WRT 'Quality' Posters.
>
> This is the last ... and I /mean/ the *very* last time I am *ever* going
> to discuss this subject.
>
> Any further comment on the matter will be completely ignored by me.
> Anything anyone still doesn't believe about the integrity of these stats
> from now on, that's their own problem. I simply don't give a rats arse.
>
> Although no explicit license was stated, copyright remains with Roy
> Culley. The only modifications I have made were with explicit
> permission, and affected only formatting (and the removal of references
> to specific posters like Kadaicha Man, who is long gone). Further to
> that, I use various wrappers (bash) for error checking and post
> submission. None of that has any bearing on actual statistics
> whatsoever. This is as much of the script as I will *ever* make public.
> Don't like it? Tough:
>
> ####
> sub QualityPosters {
> my($XP, $Q, $F, $T, $FullFrom, $LastXPostQ);
> my $Cnt = 1;
> foreach my $Poster (keys %FromName) {
> next if $FromName{$Poster} < 6;
> $XP = int((($FromName{$Poster} - $XPost{$Poster}) /
> $FromName{$Poster}) * 100);
> if ($QuoteFrom{$Poster}) {
> $Q = 100 - $QuoteFrom{$Poster};
> }
> else {
> $Q = 0;
> }
> if ($DirReply{$Poster} > $FromName{$Poster}) {
> $F = $DirReply{$Poster} - $FromName{$Poster} + 50;
> }
> else {
> $F = $FromName{$Poster} - $DirReply{$Poster} ;
> }
> if (exists $TrollCntFrom{$Poster}) {
> $T = (100 - (2.0 * $TrollCntFrom{$Poster}));
> }
> else {
> $T = 100;
> }
>
> $XPostQ{$Poster} = int(($XP + $Q + $F + $T) / 4);
> $XPostQ{$Poster} -= 75 if exists $FromTroll{$Poster};
> }
>
> IOW, just like it reads in the weekly posting:
>
> "The poster 'quality' stats is based on:
> a) quoting: 100 - %'age quoted
> b) cross-posting: 100 - %'age cross-posted
> c) number of direct followups posters articles get
> d) troll feeding: 100 - 2.0 * %'age troll followups
> e) 75 deducted for known trolls"
>
> Everything else in the script is merely about counting total posts, and
> formatting the output. There is no "conspiracy". What you see is what
> you get.
>
> There are very infrequent errors (mostly caused by power outages beyond
> my control). E.g. DFS noted that too many posts had been attributed to
> him in the course of one particular week (timestamps were messed up).
> The fact that *too many* posts were attributed to someone I classify as
> a Troll, should be some indication to the cynics that anomalies (if any)
> are *not* being deliberately introduced.
>
> I do now have an UPS in place, although the quality of my energy
> supplier's service in this area is so poor, that it occassionally takes
> them longer to restore service than the lifespan of the UPS charge. As a
> result of this, I have chained several UPS together, and this should
> provide a full 24 hours of battery life for that server at full load
> (yes it did once take my energy supplier *that* long to restore
> service). Anomalies with the Stats should now be very rare.
>
> For the purposes of these stats, the "known Trolls" are as follows:
>
> (ACDC|amicus_curious):::amicus_curious - Troll
> Alexander Terekhov:::Alexander Terekhov - Facist Troll
> Aunty Diluvian:::flatfish [nyms] - Mental-Ward Escapee
> Bill Gates:::Oxford - Mac Looney
> cc:::cc - Shifty MS Apologist
> Derk den Klotsoksel::
erk den Klotsoksel - Troll> (dfs|DFS)::
ooFy - Money-Obsessed Goon> Dom::
om - Idiot> Erik Funkenbusch:::Ewik FUDenbusch
> Ian Semmel:::Ian Semmel - WinTroll / Idiot
> i...@block.spam:::"Scottish" Mike - Troll Apprentice
> JD Cantafio:::JD Cantafio - Troll
> Jeff_Relf:::Jeff_Relf - .Net k00k
> Joerg Schilling:::Joerg Schilling - 'Superior' Software Developer
> Larry Qualig:::Larry 'Msg-ID Larry' Qualig - Vile MS Shill
> Lintard:::Lintard - Moronic Goon
> linux-sux:::Scott [Nudds] Douglas [nyms] - Looney Troll
> Meat Plow:::flatfish [nyms] - Mental-Ward Escapee
> Mike Cox:::Idiotic Attention Seeker
> OK:::OK - MS Apologist and Liar
> Oliver Wong:::Oliver Wrong - MS Apologist
> (oxford|Oxford):::Oxford - Mac Looney
> Sandman:::Sandman - Mac Troll
> snit:::snit - Ridiculous MAC Troll
> Tim Smith:::Timmy 'Funkenbusch Wannabee' Smith
> Toad:::Toad - Troll
> waterskidoo:::waterskidoo - Troll
>
> This is by no means the full list, but merely some of the more infamous
> or recent entries. The full list is far too long (goes back years) to
> post here. In particular, the number of flatfish nyms would require
> several pages just by itself.
>
> Certain posters are dropped completely and simply not counted at all,
> due to the extremity of their behaviour (leafnode filter):
>
> ^From:.*(?i)Alexander Terekhov
> ^From:.*(?i)raylopez99
> ^From:.*(?i)Capt.*Morgan
> ^From:.*(?i)Dr(\.|\ )
> ^From:.*(?i)Mr(\.|\ )
> ^Newsgroups:.*24hoursupport.helpdesk.*
> ^Newsgroups:.*alt\.idiots.*
> ^Newsgroups:.*alt\.flame.*
> ^Newsgroups:.*alt\.politics.*
> ^Newsgroups:.*comp\.sys\.mac\.advocacy.*
>
> The above is the *complete* filter used by COLA Stats, anything else
> that you think /should/ have gotten through but didn't, is an issue with
> SuperNews (my uplink), not the script.
>
> Placement in the killfile or Trolls list is not necessarily permanent
> (e.g. this week sees the return of Hadron from the bitbucket, and Bailo
> is out of the Trolls list).
>
> There is *zero* manual intervention with this automated process. No
> post-processing is done by me at all. The only time that would ever
> happen, would be if the script fscked up and sent an empty/corrupted
> post (did happen once - my fault). If the text file
> "advocate-of-the-week.txt" is present, it is also automatically picked
> up by a wrapper for the COLA Stats script, if not then that section is
> blank. Again, this requires no manual intervention with the actual stats
> process (once a week, I pick out a good post and send it to the above
> text file. Haven't done that recently).
>
> Final comments:
>
> COLA is an unmoderated group. Neither I nor anyone else "owns" COLA. The
> weekly Stats post is merely a voluntary contribution that I do not have
> any exclusive rights to, which I make for the sake of interest and fun only.
>
> The script used was *not* written by me, and is not "owned" by me, but I
> merely use it. Refusing to *release* the source to software that is
> *not* publicly distributed, is *not* in contradiction to the principles
> of Free Software. *If* it *is* distributed, then it should be licensed,
> and if it is licensed, then I'd prefer software to be licensed under the
> GPL. This does *not* mean that *everyone* is *obligated* to release
> *every* piece of software they ever write for their own purposes ... or
> any other private works. Those who cry "hypocrisy" (including some who
> purport to be "advocates") need to shut their fat gobs and engage their
> braincells ... assuming they have that capacity.
>
> As for the weekly post itself ... don't like it? Don't read it. But quit
> bitching and get a life. Better yet, just stop Trolling. If you don't
> like GNU/Linux, you don't belong here - so piss off. Just my opinion.
>
> --
> K.http://slated.org
>
> .----
> | "Proprietary licenses, the crack cocaine of software finance."
> | - Matt Asay, CNET
> `----
>
> Fedora release 7 (Moonshine) on sky, running kernel 2.6.22.1-41.fc7
> 17:11:05 up 15 days, 16:06, 3 users, load average: 0.25, 0.19, 0.20
And this ladies and gentlemen is a perfect, textbook reason why you
should NEVER GET INVOLVED WITH OPEN SOURCE PROGRAMS!
All it takes is for the programmer to have a hissy fit, like Homer,
and that's the end of the project.
Meanwhile you and your company are left holding the bag.
SAY NO TO OPEN SOURCE!