Dual Boot for WinME and Win2000?

[Mike M]

Re: Dual Boot for WinME and Win2000?

> There are no problems with 'Adaptec'

Which isn't what you have said on more than one occasion in this thread.
Adaptec have had nothing to do with Easy CD Creator or CD burning for many
years so if you are using CD software from Adaptec is it outdated and
severely limited in functionality such a being unlikely to support CD and
DVD burning hardware marketed in the last five years or more. For example
even the most basic and rudimentary of modern CD burning applications
includes the ability to burn iso files which are simply disk images.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


webster72n <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote:

> I would prefer if you kept 'your opinion' to yourself, Heather, at
> least when it's negative. I happen to be 'mostly' optimistic.
> There are no problems with 'Adaptec' and as far as 'Ubuntu' is
> concerned,
> I plan to 'make it work', like it or not.
> I am sure greatful for the magnificent support I've found, here and
> with the ubuntu forum. Don't worry about 'any' clouds, dark or
> otherwise, please. Everything is working like clockwork on this
> machine (knock on wood?).

 

[Mike M]

Re: Dual Boot for WinME and Win2000?

Heather <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> I happen to be "honest"......not negative. Adaptec is so out of
> date, it is pitiful. I had it on my WinME computer.....it came with
> it 7.5 years ago. Is that a clue?? I then put Roxio 6 on that one.
> Worked way better.
>
> But you never listen to reason and seem to love to mess up your
> computer, so just keep on doing what you do best.....LOL.

LOL. Nor sadly does Harry seem to learn from the multitude of mistakes
and scrapes he has told us about over the last few years.
--
Mike M

 

[Mart]

Re: Dual Boot for WinME and Win2000?

Harry, if its not too late - just a little reminder of the message I posted
to you a while ago (15th July) when you were first considering installing
Ububtu :-

"Harry, - if you're watching - DON'T go the two disk (dual boot) route. Just
start with an old 'spare' (hard drive) in place of the existing (known good
and working) C: and don't even consider a second disk at this stage! You can
easily replace the disk if Ubuntu goes pear-shaped and you'll have your
(WinMe) system back."

My experience was a PITA trying to regain my WinMe HDD back from the Dual
Boot utility.

Mart



"webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OeCXO506HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> George, I just finished 'burning' the 'mini iso' image to CD with
> 'DeepBurner'.
> After downloading the second offering from John, I went back to DeepBurner
> and whooallaa, it worked. I did get the 'iso' image for the
> mini-installation from the ubuntu forum, since I couldn't get the 'live'
> CD
> from Ubuntu to work.
> Now I have the CD I am supposed to have, according to opinions in the
> forum
> and will proceed to install ubuntu and see if it will work.
> Will let you know later if it did - or not (no way).\
>
> Harry.
>
>
> "George Gee" <georgegee@nomaps.com> wrote in message
> news:Oxg06h06HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Harry
>>
>> Are the two copies of Ubuntu that you possess both ISO images?
>> Or are you trying to make an ISO image from the CD's?
>> Can you supply a link to the forum that says
>> 'Burn the ISO Image'?
>>
>> George Gee
>>
>>
>> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:O5oKhP06HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> >
>> > "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:fb63id$jad$3@aioe.org...
>> >> webster72n wrote:
>> >> > "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com.> wrote in message
>> >> > news:%23HViFzp6HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> webster72n wrote:
>> >> >>> That covers it quite well, Mike, thank you.
>> >> >>> I will be able to figure the rest out myself on hand of your
>> >> > descriptions.
>> >> >>> Since I was unable to simply 'run' ubuntu under WinME, let alone
>> >> > installing
>> >> >>> it,
>> >> >>> I have decided in favor of W2k.
>> >> >>> Thanks again.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Harry.
>> >> >> Do you have all your W2K drivers? If so, there really isn't any
>> >> >> need
>> > for
>> >> >> Win Me as W2K is a far superior product.
>> >> >
>> >> > It's not a question of superiority, Alias. To burn an iso image file
>> > with a
>> >> > free burner, I need W2k, because it will not work under ME. Once W2k
> is
>> >> > installed, I will be able to burn the image for the mini
>> >> > installation
>> >> > of
>> >> > ubuntu to CD and, hence, finally install ubuntu on my machine. As
>> >> > you
>> > can
>> >> > see, I haven't given up on it, just chosen a different route.
>> >> > What is it I need to know about the W2k drivers?
>> >> >
>> >> > Harry.
>> >>
>> >> Why don´t you just order the Free CD from Ubuntu?
>> >
>> > That's where my problems start, Alias, I thought you were up-to-date on
> my
>> > situation, but that's not the case. As a matter of fact I have the two
>> > latest versions at my disposal, but I can't run them, because of the
>> > screwed-up desktop image.
>> > The security catalog file of the disk is branded as "invalid" in my
>> > system.
>> > When I tried to install the 'mini version' of ubuntu, I encountered two
>> > errors, forcing me to abandon the installation and being fortunate not
> to
>> > have had major problems:
>> > 1. my network hardware could not be detected and
>> > 2. out of all available mirror archives none was to be found for me.
>> > In the forum I was advised to "Burn the ISO Image" to CD instead of the
>> > "Data".
>> > Hence my attempts to obtain the free burner.
>> > Adaptec CD Creator is in my reservoir, but it can only create data and
>> > audio
>> > cd's.
>> > On top of it there seems to be a conflict between Adaptec and
> DeepBurner,
>> > with me probably having to uninstall Adaptec first.
>> > I'll have to work that out.
>> >
>> > Harry.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Alias
>> >> To email me, remove shoes
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

[webster72n]

Re: Dual Boot for WinME and Win2000?


Not to worry, Mart, I don't plan to do 'anything' foolish and I remember
your post, but I am proceeding much more cautiously.
I just discovered something, which may keep me from advancing any further
with my attempts to install Ubuntu on my machine, as is.
I may decide to install W2k, or leave things exactly the way they are, but
as of now: no ubuntu on this machine (sorry about that, Alias).
Thanks for your concern, Mart, it's very much appreciated.

Harry.


"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:%23nuSWx16HHA.1148@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Harry, if its not too late - just a little reminder of the message I
posted
> to you a while ago (15th July) when you were first considering installing
> Ububtu :-
>
> "Harry, - if you're watching - DON'T go the two disk (dual boot) route.
Just
> start with an old 'spare' (hard drive) in place of the existing (known
good
> and working) C: and don't even consider a second disk at this stage! You
can
> easily replace the disk if Ubuntu goes pear-shaped and you'll have your
> (WinMe) system back."
>
> My experience was a PITA trying to regain my WinMe HDD back from the Dual
> Boot utility.
>
> Mart
>
>
>
> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OeCXO506HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > George, I just finished 'burning' the 'mini iso' image to CD with
> > 'DeepBurner'.
> > After downloading the second offering from John, I went back to
DeepBurner
> > and whooallaa, it worked. I did get the 'iso' image for the
> > mini-installation from the ubuntu forum, since I couldn't get the 'live'
> > CD
> > from Ubuntu to work.
> > Now I have the CD I am supposed to have, according to opinions in the
> > forum
> > and will proceed to install ubuntu and see if it will work.
> > Will let you know later if it did - or not (no way).\
> >
> > Harry.
> >
> >
> > "George Gee" <georgegee@nomaps.com> wrote in message
> > news:Oxg06h06HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> Harry
> >>
> >> Are the two copies of Ubuntu that you possess both ISO images?
> >> Or are you trying to make an ISO image from the CD's?
> >> Can you supply a link to the forum that says
> >> 'Burn the ISO Image'?
> >>
> >> George Gee
> >>
> >>
> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:O5oKhP06HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> >
> >> > "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:fb63id$jad$3@aioe.org...
> >> >> webster72n wrote:
> >> >> > "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com.> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:%23HViFzp6HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> webster72n wrote:
> >> >> >>> That covers it quite well, Mike, thank you.
> >> >> >>> I will be able to figure the rest out myself on hand of your
> >> >> > descriptions.
> >> >> >>> Since I was unable to simply 'run' ubuntu under WinME, let alone
> >> >> > installing
> >> >> >>> it,
> >> >> >>> I have decided in favor of W2k.
> >> >> >>> Thanks again.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Harry.
> >> >> >> Do you have all your W2K drivers? If so, there really isn't any
> >> >> >> need
> >> > for
> >> >> >> Win Me as W2K is a far superior product.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > It's not a question of superiority, Alias. To burn an iso image
file
> >> > with a
> >> >> > free burner, I need W2k, because it will not work under ME. Once
W2k
> > is
> >> >> > installed, I will be able to burn the image for the mini
> >> >> > installation
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > ubuntu to CD and, hence, finally install ubuntu on my machine. As
> >> >> > you
> >> > can
> >> >> > see, I haven't given up on it, just chosen a different route.
> >> >> > What is it I need to know about the W2k drivers?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Harry.
> >> >>
> >> >> Why don´t you just order the Free CD from Ubuntu?
> >> >
> >> > That's where my problems start, Alias, I thought you were up-to-date
on
> > my
> >> > situation, but that's not the case. As a matter of fact I have the
two
> >> > latest versions at my disposal, but I can't run them, because of the
> >> > screwed-up desktop image.
> >> > The security catalog file of the disk is branded as "invalid" in my
> >> > system.
> >> > When I tried to install the 'mini version' of ubuntu, I encountered
two
> >> > errors, forcing me to abandon the installation and being fortunate
not
> > to
> >> > have had major problems:
> >> > 1. my network hardware could not be detected and
> >> > 2. out of all available mirror archives none was to be found for me.
> >> > In the forum I was advised to "Burn the ISO Image" to CD instead of
the
> >> > "Data".
> >> > Hence my attempts to obtain the free burner.
> >> > Adaptec CD Creator is in my reservoir, but it can only create data
and
> >> > audio
> >> > cd's.
> >> > On top of it there seems to be a conflict between Adaptec and
> > DeepBurner,
> >> > with me probably having to uninstall Adaptec first.
> >> > I'll have to work that out.
> >> >
> >> > Harry.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Alias
> >> >> To email me, remove shoes
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

 

[webster72n]

Re: Dual Boot for WinME and Win2000?

Sorry you think that way, Mike. You may think it's factual, but it isn't,
with reference to your first reply and as for this one, my Adaptec works as
good as any other utility in this category and I got the DeepBurner working
right beside it
Whatever happened before, was not Adaptec's fault, but merely a learning
experience. Why can't you be happy that things are 'on track' now for me,
instead of bringing up remembrances of things past, which aren't worth
talking about,
unless they would help to make things better?
That includes your "Sidekick".

Harry.


"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:%23nKeFY16HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > There are no problems with 'Adaptec'
>
> Which isn't what you have said on more than one occasion in this thread.
> Adaptec have had nothing to do with Easy CD Creator or CD burning for many
> years so if you are using CD software from Adaptec is it outdated and
> severely limited in functionality such a being unlikely to support CD and
> DVD burning hardware marketed in the last five years or more. For example
> even the most basic and rudimentary of modern CD burning applications
> includes the ability to burn iso files which are simply disk images.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>
> webster72n <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I would prefer if you kept 'your opinion' to yourself, Heather, at
> > least when it's negative. I happen to be 'mostly' optimistic.
> > There are no problems with 'Adaptec' and as far as 'Ubuntu' is
> > concerned,
> > I plan to 'make it work', like it or not.
> > I am sure greatful for the magnificent support I've found, here and
> > with the ubuntu forum. Don't worry about 'any' clouds, dark or
> > otherwise, please. Everything is working like clockwork on this
> > machine (knock on wood?).
>

 

[webster72n]

Re: Dual Boot for WinME and Win2000?


I stand corrected, John:
When I tried a second time, the DeepBurner worked perfectly and produced the
'ISO' image on my CD. Trouble is, it looks and is exactly the same as a
previous data cd. For all I can tell right now, I'll abandon installation of
ubuntu at this time on my present machine, for reason's of a personal
nature.
Thanks for all your help, John.

Harry.


"webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e164nX06HHA.4660@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Thanks John. The problem seems to be a conflict between my Adaptec CD
> Creator and the DeepBurner. When I get to the 'burn iso' situation, I have
> only the 'erase' button available, the 'cancel' and 'burn iso' buttons are
> grayed out.
> I suspect that's because of 'Adaptec'.
> I am downloading and will install and try your second offer.
> Hoping to succeed in the end.
>
> Harry.
>
>
> "John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> news:eSn3jCr6HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > Another one here that should work:
> > http://www.cdburnerxp.se/features.php
> >
> > If you find that these burners don't work it could be an ASPI driver
> > problem.
> >
> > John
> >
> > webster72n wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for that one, John, I looked all over the internet and the best
I
> > > could come up with was the 'FinalBurner', which will not work with ME
> but
> > > W2k.
> > > Am downloading your's now and will let you know how I made out in the
> end.
> > >
> > > Harry.
> > >
> > >
> > > "John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:uGbz6dq6HHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > >
> > >>webster72n wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com.> wrote in message
> > >>>news:%23HViFzp6HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>webster72n wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>That covers it quite well, Mike, thank you.
> > >>>>>I will be able to figure the rest out myself on hand of your
> > >>>
> > >>>descriptions.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>Since I was unable to simply 'run' ubuntu under WinME, let alone
> > >>>
> > >>>installing
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>it,
> > >>>>>I have decided in favor of W2k.
> > >>>>>Thanks again.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Harry.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Do you have all your W2K drivers? If so, there really isn't any need
> for
> > >>>>Win Me as W2K is a far superior product.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>It's not a question of superiority, Alias. To burn an iso image file
> > >
> > > with a
> > >
> > >>>free burner, I need W2k, because it will not work under ME. Once W2k
is
> > >>>installed, I will be able to burn the image for the mini installation
> of
> > >>>ubuntu to CD and, hence, finally install ubuntu on my machine. As you
> > >
> > > can
> > >
> > >>>see, I haven't given up on it, just chosen a different route.
> > >>>What is it I need to know about the W2k drivers?
> > >>
> > >>??? You want to install Windows 2000 just to burn an ISO image with
> > >>your CD burner? Why can't you do this with Windows ME? Might be
easier
> > >>to try different burning software instead of installing a different
OS.
> > >> http://www.deepburner.com/?r=products&pr=deepburner
> > >>
> > >>John
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>

 

[John John]

Re: Dual Boot for WinME and Win2000?

You're welcome.

John

webster72n wrote:

> I stand corrected, John:
> When I tried a second time, the DeepBurner worked perfectly and produced the
> 'ISO' image on my CD. Trouble is, it looks and is exactly the same as a
> previous data cd. For all I can tell right now, I'll abandon installation of
> ubuntu at this time on my present machine, for reason's of a personal
> nature.
> Thanks for all your help, John.
>
> Harry.
>
>
> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e164nX06HHA.4660@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>>Thanks John. The problem seems to be a conflict between my Adaptec CD
>>Creator and the DeepBurner. When I get to the 'burn iso' situation, I have
>>only the 'erase' button available, the 'cancel' and 'burn iso' buttons are
>>grayed out.
>>I suspect that's because of 'Adaptec'.
>>I am downloading and will install and try your second offer.
>>Hoping to succeed in the end.
>>
>> Harry.
>>
>>
>>"John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>news:eSn3jCr6HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>Another one here that should work:
>>>http://www.cdburnerxp.se/features.php
>>>
>>>If you find that these burners don't work it could be an ASPI driver
>>>problem.
>>>
>>>John
>>>
>>>webster72n wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thanks for that one, John, I looked all over the internet and the best
>
> I
>
>>>>could come up with was the 'FinalBurner', which will not work with ME
>>
>>but
>>
>>>>W2k.
>>>>Am downloading your's now and will let you know how I made out in the
>>
>>end.
>>
>>>> Harry.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>news:uGbz6dq6HHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>webster72n wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com.> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:%23HViFzp6HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>webster72n wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That covers it quite well, Mike, thank you.
>>>>>>>>I will be able to figure the rest out myself on hand of your
>>>>>>
>>>>>>descriptions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Since I was unable to simply 'run' ubuntu under WinME, let alone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>installing
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>it,
>>>>>>>>I have decided in favor of W2k.
>>>>>>>>Thanks again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Harry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Do you have all your W2K drivers? If so, there really isn't any need
>>
>>for
>>
>>>>>>>Win Me as W2K is a far superior product.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It's not a question of superiority, Alias. To burn an iso image file
>>>>
>>>>with a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>free burner, I need W2k, because it will not work under ME. Once W2k
>
> is
>
>>>>>>installed, I will be able to burn the image for the mini installation
>>
>>of
>>
>>>>>>ubuntu to CD and, hence, finally install ubuntu on my machine. As you
>>>>
>>>>can
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>see, I haven't given up on it, just chosen a different route.
>>>>>>What is it I need to know about the W2k drivers?
>>>>>
>>>>>??? You want to install Windows 2000 just to burn an ISO image with
>>>>>your CD burner? Why can't you do this with Windows ME? Might be
>
> easier
>
>>>>>to try different burning software instead of installing a different
>
> OS.
>
>>>>> http://www.deepburner.com/?r=products&pr=deepburner
>>>>>
>>>>>John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>

 

[Alias]

Re: Dual Boot for WinME and Win2000?

webster72n wrote:
> I stand corrected, John:
> When I tried a second time, the DeepBurner worked perfectly and produced the
> 'ISO' image on my CD. Trouble is, it looks and is exactly the same as a
> previous data cd. For all I can tell right now, I'll abandon installation of
> ubuntu at this time on my present machine, for reason's of a personal
> nature.
> Thanks for all your help, John.
>
> Harry.
>
>
> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e164nX06HHA.4660@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks John. The problem seems to be a conflict between my Adaptec CD
>> Creator and the DeepBurner. When I get to the 'burn iso' situation, I have
>> only the 'erase' button available, the 'cancel' and 'burn iso' buttons are
>> grayed out.
>> I suspect that's because of 'Adaptec'.
>> I am downloading and will install and try your second offer.
>> Hoping to succeed in the end.
>>
>> Harry.
>>
>>
>> "John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>> news:eSn3jCr6HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Another one here that should work:
>>> http://www.cdburnerxp.se/features.php
>>>
>>> If you find that these burners don't work it could be an ASPI driver
>>> problem.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> webster72n wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for that one, John, I looked all over the internet and the best
> I
>>>> could come up with was the 'FinalBurner', which will not work with ME
>> but
>>>> W2k.
>>>> Am downloading your's now and will let you know how I made out in the
>> end.
>>>> Harry.
>>>>

You seem to have a problem making up your mind. Don't ask me for help
anymore.

--
Alias
To email me, remove shoes

 

[webster72n]

Re: Dual Boot for WinME and Win2000?


"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message
news:fb8ou5$vt9$1@aioe.org...
> webster72n wrote:
> > I stand corrected, John:
> > When I tried a second time, the DeepBurner worked perfectly and produced
the
> > 'ISO' image on my CD. Trouble is, it looks and is exactly the same as a
> > previous data cd. For all I can tell right now, I'll abandon
installation of
> > ubuntu at this time on my present machine, for reason's of a personal
> > nature.
> > Thanks for all your help, John.
> >
> > Harry.
> >
> >
> > "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:e164nX06HHA.4660@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> Thanks John. The problem seems to be a conflict between my Adaptec CD
> >> Creator and the DeepBurner. When I get to the 'burn iso' situation, I
have
> >> only the 'erase' button available, the 'cancel' and 'burn iso' buttons
are
> >> grayed out.
> >> I suspect that's because of 'Adaptec'.
> >> I am downloading and will install and try your second offer.
> >> Hoping to succeed in the end.
> >>
> >> Harry.
> >>
> >>
> >> "John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:eSn3jCr6HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >>> Another one here that should work:
> >>> http://www.cdburnerxp.se/features.php
> >>>
> >>> If you find that these burners don't work it could be an ASPI driver
> >>> problem.
> >>>
> >>> John
> >>>
> >>> webster72n wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks for that one, John, I looked all over the internet and the
best
> > I
> >>>> could come up with was the 'FinalBurner', which will not work with ME
> >> but
> >>>> W2k.
> >>>> Am downloading your's now and will let you know how I made out in the
> >> end.
> >>>> Harry.
> >>>>
>
> You seem to have a problem making up your mind. Don't ask me for help
> anymore.

There is no reason at all for you to be 'p***** o**'. It is definitely not a
matter of making up my mind, you ought to know that, Alias. It has to do
with technical implications which, at the moment will not allow me to
continue my efforts.
Sorry to have been a 'bother' to you.
Can you accept that??? <H>.

>
> --
> Alias
> To email me, remove shoes