Re: Audio Driver and Memory Manager Problems
Frog wrote:
| Your warning about having disks, etc., before proceeding with my audio
| problems, has me a little uneasy about proceeding further. As you
| know, I just made it through one traumatic situation with this
| computer, and I don't think I'm up to another one at this time. The
| only thing I am having audio problems with is the CNN/FOX news pages
| and some e-mail and web pages. Part of this is probably caused by
| missing plug-ins in addition to missing audio drivers. I again
| checked Device Manager in Safe Mode today, and there were no problem
| indications noted. As I said earlier, I think I am going to put this
| problem on the shelf for a little while, until the recent past fades
| a bit.
All right. I won't push it. All of that in my post worked well for me
several times-- but it never actually was the cure for the problem I
had, which was my left speaker wasn't working. Next, I blew up two
smaller replacement speakers that I guess just weren't meant for this
computer. Finally, I replaced the original speakers & fiddled with the
volume control-- & suddenly all was well! I guess this computer became
fearful of what I might do next!
| Unrelated Question: Some time ago you helped me remove McAfee
| Virus-Scan from my Registry. During that ordeal, you identified two
| programs that made it easy to remove items from the registry.
Finally, I uninstalled my own McAfee. It was an earlier version than
yours, & it went fairly well. Much, much less than what you had was left
behind in my Registry. Those are gone, & some folders had to be deleted
manually too.
| Do you
| recall the names of these programs? Both programs were lost during
| my recent system meltdown. I found both programs to be good tools
| for this amateur computer mechanic.
http://www.pcmag.com/ Has many, many great utilities: BHOCop, COA2,
ContextEdit, Crackup, DiskAction, EndItAll2, Folders, HDValet, InCtrl5,
ListZapper, RegDetective, RegEdit+, StartupCop, WinTidy, etc. Now,
suddenly, there is a subscription fee at PCMag, but, it's worth it,
especially if you can get the whole bundle that is there.
PCMag's "Registry Detective" (take "RegEdit+ too) is better than a naked
RegEdit search, because it will only find an item once, if there is a
"mirror" elsewhere. Also, it will find items in binary fields, which
RegEdit does not. Finally, it finds ALL matches in 10 seconds & puts
them ALL to the screen. There is a Details button for further
examination of the Key. The search criteria can be adjusted and narrowed
in various ways. There is a button to click that will get one into
RegEdit+ (or RegEdit) open to that Key. I only wish there were an easy
way to copy/post the Keys that were found in the search.
"RegEdit+" provides a configurable "Favorites" menu of Registry key
locations, undo for Registry changes, and an Address Bar into which one
may drop a Registry address. The docs are a Registry tutorial in itself.
You may try Google, but do you really want to download from any odd
site?
http://www.google.com/
http://wittswallpapers.com/Oldies/indexoldies.html
That site has Crackup & others. I can only say it's Crackup is the same
size as the one I've got, & McAfee didn't complain of its download. (But
I don't have McAfee anymore.)
| Oh, I forgot to tell you why I
| need these programs...I notice that I have many Netscape 4.7 entries
| in my registry. Many of these items are pointing to non-existent
| programs...Netscape is no longer on my system. I reinstalled Netscape
| 4.7 today and then removed it via Add/Remove, and the entries continue
| to show up in the registry.
OK. I hope you can get them gone. Maybe start a new thread on it. I
don't have Netscape.
| Thanks again for the audio help you passed my way.
You are welcome.
| Frog
|
| PCR wrote:
|> "Frog" <frog@pond.com> wrote in message
|> news:Oau4th78HHA.5712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
|> | OOPS, my green fingers are still giving me some problems. I
|> | decided to take another look at config.sys this morning, and there
|> | I found a space where no space was supposed to be. That fixed, I
|> | now see the following when restarting in MS/DOS:
|> |
|> | C:\C
ROGRA~1\CREATIVE\CTSND\DOSDRV\APINIT.COM
|> | Sound Blaster (R) PCI128 Initialization Driver, Ver 2.72
|> | Copyright (c) 1996-1998, Creative Technology Ltd., All Rights
|> | Reserved PCI Audio @ Port a400, IRQ9
|> | Initialization Complete
|> | c:\>
|> |
|> | The message that previously appeared in this window (i.e., error:
|> | Memory Manager not detected, etc.) is now gone.
|>
|> Excellent! Glad to hear it!
|>
|> | I continue to see the New Hardware window, however, looking for a
|> | driver for PCI Multimedia Audio Device on startup.
|>
|> Too bad it wouldn't just go away with the other. Here is what I
|> usually post for Audio driver problems...
|>
|> Here is basically all I know of audio, except you may also look at a
|> list of audio devices/drivers in Device Manager. If you go that way,
|> BETTER be sure of what you've got now, so that you may change back to
|> it. To see what you've got now...
|>
|> (a) "Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab, Sound Video & Game
|> Controllers branch".
|> (b) D-Clk the devices under it, each in turn, for Properties.
|> (c) Click the Driver tab, & then click the "Update Driver button".
|> (d) Bolt "Display a list..", & click "Next".
|> What shows up in the "Models" box?
|> (e) Finally, bolt "Show all hardware".
|> What is lit up in both the left & right panes?
|>
|> That is what is currently installed & active. If you choose others
|> from the left/right panes (& click "Next"), it will constitute an
|> uninstall of the old & an install of the new. Well, here is all I
|> know...
|>
|> When I do the following procedure, I am asked to supply drivers
|> during boot. I bypass the request, & end up with none. Then, I run
|> an .exe downloaded from Compaq, which puts them back in. Or, I go to
|> a folder & click a Setup.exe in there, when I want the older drivers.
|>
|> The point is-- YOU may have to do it that way too. So, prepare.
|>
|> (a) Boot to Safe Mode. (Enable Startup Menu at "START, Run, MSConfig,
|> Advanced button.)
|> (b) "Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab".
|> (c) Open the "Sound, video & game controllers" branch, & delete all
|> devices under it. This is meant to eliminate "ghosts" of drivers
|> past, which are invisible in Normal Mode.
|> (d) Reboot to Normal Mode.
|> (e) Install your Sound Drivers, if they haven't automatically been
|> detected.
|>
|> (4) If you are sure of Audio drivers you may have downloaded, that
|> you do have a method to reinstall them, then consider...
|>
|> (a) "Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Install/Uninstall tab"
|> (b) If your Audio driver is mentioned there, uninstall it before
|> installing the new.
|>
|> | Frog wrote:
|> |> PCR wrote:
|> |>> "Frog" <frog@pond.com> wrote in message
|> |>> news:Oz0IHFo8HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
|> |>> | Hi to all, again......
|> |>> |
|> |>> | I am continuing to attempt to clean up my system after my
|> |>> | recent computer meltdown (see "Internet Connection Problems").
|> |>> | I see the following message, when I restart my computer in
|> |>> | MS/DOS mode:
|> |>> |
|> |>> | error: Memory Manager not detected.
|> |>> | PCI audio driver requires EMM386 or similar.
|> |>> | PCI audio driver NOT loading.
|> |>> |
|> |>> | I did a Google search on "Memory Manager not detected" and
|> |>> | there I found an exchange involving Glen Ventura.
|> |>>
|> |>> Glen Ventura! Oh, my God-- he was one of the first of our MVP's
|> |>> to perish of XP-irradiation! It was a sad, sad day!
|> |>>
|> |>> | His message directed the
|> |>> | one in need of help to
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/229186 -
|> |>> | Sound Blaster Live! Error Message After Installing Windows.
|> |>> | Well, there at the top of this article were the exact words I
|> |>> | was seeing on my screen. I followed the instructions, and
|> |>> | would you believe that my config.sys did not contain any lines
|> |>> | in it at all? I then added the lines to config.sys as
|> |>> | directed in paragraph 4 of this Microsoft article...that is:
|> |>> |
|> |>> | device=windows\himem.sys
|> |>> | device=windows\emm386.exe
|> |>> |
|> |>> | I again restarted my computer in normal mode, restarted again
|> |>> | in MS/DOS mode, and there was the same error message. I
|> |>> | checked the config.sys file for accuracy and it was correct.
|> |>>
|> |>> Try using the full path to the files. And since you have just
|> |>> done a fresh install, best check the following is indeed the
|> |>> correct path. If not, substitute the path (Drive:\Folder) to
|> |>> these files that does exist...
|> |>>
|> |>> DEVICE=C:\Windows\HIMEM.sys
|> |>> DEVICE=C:\Windows\EMM386.exe NOEMS
|> |>> DOS=HIGH,UMB,AUTO
|> |>
|> |> I did as you suggested and noticed no change. I continue to get
|> |> the same error and new hardware messages.
|> |>>
|> |>> | Onward to another driver problem that keeps showing up at start
|> |>> | up. The "New Hardware Wizard" continues to inform me that it
|> |>> | has found
|> |>> | a "PCI Multimedia Audio Device" and it is looking for
|> |>> | appropriate drivers for this hardware. In my mind I started
|> |>> | thinking the two are connected; and, yes, I do have a Sound
|> |>> | Blaster card in my system.
|> |>> |
|> |>> | Here is what I am seeing in the Device Manager>Sound, video and
|> |>> | game Controllers:
|> |>> |
|> |>> | Creative Gameport Joystick
|> |>> | Creative Labs Sound Blaster 128
|> |>> | Sound Blaster PCI 128 Legacy Device
|> |>> | Wave Device for Voice Modem
|> |>> |
|> |>> | When I look at the Properties for each of the above lines, I
|> |>> | see a line that indicates that "The device is working
|> |>> | properly.". I see no indicators that anything is wrong in
|> |>> | either normal or Safe Modes.
|> |>>
|> |>> That sounds good to me, if it looks just the same in Safe &
|> |>> Normal Modes.
|> |>>
|> |>> | Now for my questions:
|> |>> |
|> |>> | Is it possible that all of the above is really one problem?
|> |>>
|> |>> It seems to be an audio driver issue in both cases. So, yea it
|> |>> could be related or the same. So, solve the first problem & lets
|> |>> see what happens.
|> |>>
|> |>> | Would it be wise for me to remove some or all of the four
|> |>> | lines I found in "Device Manager>Sound, video and game
|> |>> | Controllers"? I know that the computer would find something
|> |>> | on start-up, and I do have my original Sound Blaster CD.
|> |>>
|> |>> Maybe, but not quite yet.
|> |>>
|> |>> | What do you recommend as my next safe mode of travel to resolve
|> |>> | the audio problems I outlined above?
|> |>>
|> |>> Try putting a full path to Himem.sys & Emm386.exe into
|> |>> Config.sys. Ventura was as yet uninfected when he gave that
|> |>> advice!
|> |>>
|> |>> | Thanks for any advice sent my way on the above subject--all
|> |>> | responses are very much appreciated.
|> |>>
|> |>> You are welcome.
|> |>>
|> |>> | Frog
|> |>> |
|> |>> |
|> |>> | P.S.
|> |>> | For PCR--I'm back on my 98SE machine, with just a little
|> |>> | XP-irradiation. I suppose it's okay for a Frog to be just a
|> |>> | little green, don't you think? I am still having problems
|> |>> | getting my fingers on the right keys and my brain (what there
|> |>> | is left of it at this point)and fingers are having some
|> |>> | difficulty communicating at times. Do these effects
|> |>> | eventually wear off?
--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
