Device cal or user cal

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I have a Windows 2003 R2 Server with accounting software that i want to be
able to access from any of our 20 XP client computers from four differnet
stores via the web to the server. Which do i need device cals or user cals?
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Re: Device cal or user cal

If you have stores with fixed machine and different users access accounting
software from those machines then Per Device will be good idea.
And if you have mobile users who access accounting software from different
machines then Per User License will be good.

If you have more users than client machine then user Per Device, and if you
have more client machines than users, use Per User.

I am not sure what you mean by saying “different stores via the web to the
server”

Ratnesh [MSFT]

"Ford" <Ford@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I have a Windows 2003 R2 Server with accounting software that i want to be
> able to access from any of our 20 XP client computers from four differnet
> stores via the web to the server. Which do i need device cals or user
> cals?
> --
> Ford
 
Re: Device cal or user cal

Ford wrote:
> I have a Windows 2003 R2 Server with accounting software that i want to be
> able to access from any of our 20 XP client computers from four differnet
> stores via the web to the server. Which do i need device cals or user cals?

If you have more computers than users, get per device licenses. More
users than computers? Get per user. Make sure before you decide. It
isn't easy th change. IIRC, you *might* get one chance to change the
type, if it;s early enough...

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Regards,
Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services
 
Re: Device cal or user cal

I have 4 different supermarket locations that need access to the terminal
server. Typically it will be the same user logging into the terminal server
from the same computer at each location. However it could be a different
user from the same machine. So i guess device cal is correct.

Is it is safe to assume that if you use the same user login ID that no
matter how many different machines you log in from it is only counted as one
user? Example
Administator and PW is the same no matter whcih machine you use. WOuld this
be one user cal?
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Ford


"Ratnesh Yadav [MSFT]" wrote:

> If you have stores with fixed machine and different users access accounting
> software from those machines then Per Device will be good idea.
> And if you have mobile users who access accounting software from different
> machines then Per User License will be good.
>
> If you have more users than client machine then user Per Device, and if you
> have more client machines than users, use Per User.
>
> I am not sure what you mean by saying “different stores via the web to the
> server”
>
> Ratnesh [MSFT]
>
> "Ford" <Ford@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A9753B13-AE4C-4091-816A-4BA99B26D175@microsoft.com...
> >I have a Windows 2003 R2 Server with accounting software that i want to be
> > able to access from any of our 20 XP client computers from four differnet
> > stores via the web to the server. Which do i need device cals or user
> > cals?
> > --
> > Ford
>
>
 
Re: Device cal or user cal

Comments inline

=?Utf-8?B?Rm9yZA==?= <Ford@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 10
sep 2007:

> I have 4 different supermarket locations that need access to the
> terminal server. Typically it will be the same user logging
> into the terminal server from the same computer at each
> location. However it could be a different user from the same
> machine. So i guess device cal is correct.

Yes.

> Is it is safe to assume that if you use the same user login ID
> that no matter how many different machines you log in from it is
> only counted as one user? Example
> Administator and PW is the same no matter whcih machine you use.
> WOuld this be one user cal?

The above would be true if you choose Per User TS CALs. But you
can't have Per User and Per Device on the same TS simultaneously,
so it is not correct if you choose Per Device TS CALs.

If you need to logon as Administrator, you can connect to the
console session of the server. A console session never requires a
TS CAL. Use "mstsc /console" (without the quotes).

_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
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Re: Device cal or user cal

May I add a clarification? If I understand TS licensing correctly, then if
you log in using one user name from multiple machines, AND it is the same
PERSON logging in, then yes, a single user CAL would cover that one person
logging in from multiple computers. If you are asking "Can I use one user
name and have ten different PEOPLE using one name," then you would need ten
user CALs.

Vera, is that correct?

--
Gregg Hill

DISCLAIMER WARNING: the information contained in any reply I make is merely
an OPINION, one that I hope you will consider when you make a choice as to
what you will do on your systems or network.

**No recommendation is to be implied by my OPINION.**

There, that should cover it!






"Vera Noest [MVP]" <Vera.Noest@remove-this.hem.utfors.se> wrote in message
news:Xns99A79197E2019veranoesthemutforsse@207.46.248.16...
> Comments inline
>
> =?Utf-8?B?Rm9yZA==?= <Ford@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 10
> sep 2007:
>
>> I have 4 different supermarket locations that need access to the
>> terminal server. Typically it will be the same user logging
>> into the terminal server from the same computer at each
>> location. However it could be a different user from the same
>> machine. So i guess device cal is correct.
>
> Yes.
>
>> Is it is safe to assume that if you use the same user login ID
>> that no matter how many different machines you log in from it is
>> only counted as one user? Example
>> Administator and PW is the same no matter whcih machine you use.
>> WOuld this be one user cal?
>
> The above would be true if you choose Per User TS CALs. But you
> can't have Per User and Per Device on the same TS simultaneously,
> so it is not correct if you choose Per Device TS CALs.
>
> If you need to logon as Administrator, you can connect to the
> console session of the server. A console session never requires a
> TS CAL. Use "mstsc /console" (without the quotes).
>
> _________________________________________________________
> Vera Noest
> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> *----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*
 
Re: Device cal or user cal

> "Can I use one user name and have ten different PEOPLE using one name,"
> then you would need ten user CALs."

Yes, in above case you will be required to buy 10 Per User CALs.

Ratnesh

"Gregg Hill" <bogus@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:%23fV2PmA9HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> May I add a clarification? If I understand TS licensing correctly, then if
> you log in using one user name from multiple machines, AND it is the same
> PERSON logging in, then yes, a single user CAL would cover that one person
> logging in from multiple computers. If you are asking "Can I use one user
> name and have ten different PEOPLE using one name," then you would need
> ten user CALs.
>
> Vera, is that correct?
>
> --
> Gregg Hill
>
> DISCLAIMER WARNING: the information contained in any reply I make is
> merely an OPINION, one that I hope you will consider when you make a
> choice as to what you will do on your systems or network.
>
> **No recommendation is to be implied by my OPINION.**
>
> There, that should cover it!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Vera Noest [MVP]" <Vera.Noest@remove-this.hem.utfors.se> wrote in message
> news:Xns99A79197E2019veranoesthemutforsse@207.46.248.16...
>> Comments inline
>>
>> =?Utf-8?B?Rm9yZA==?= <Ford@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 10
>> sep 2007:
>>
>>> I have 4 different supermarket locations that need access to the
>>> terminal server. Typically it will be the same user logging
>>> into the terminal server from the same computer at each
>>> location. However it could be a different user from the same
>>> machine. So i guess device cal is correct.
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>> Is it is safe to assume that if you use the same user login ID
>>> that no matter how many different machines you log in from it is
>>> only counted as one user? Example
>>> Administator and PW is the same no matter whcih machine you use.
>>> WOuld this be one user cal?
>>
>> The above would be true if you choose Per User TS CALs. But you
>> can't have Per User and Per Device on the same TS simultaneously,
>> so it is not correct if you choose Per Device TS CALs.
>>
>> If you need to logon as Administrator, you can connect to the
>> console session of the server. A console session never requires a
>> TS CAL. Use "mstsc /console" (without the quotes).
>>
>> _________________________________________________________
>> Vera Noest
>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
>> *----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*
>
>
 
Re: Device cal or user cal

Yes, "User" in Per User CALs should be interpreted as "person", not
as "user account".
_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
*----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*

"Gregg Hill" <bogus@nowhere.com> wrote on 11 sep 2007:

> May I add a clarification? If I understand TS licensing
> correctly, then if you log in using one user name from multiple
> machines, AND it is the same PERSON logging in, then yes, a
> single user CAL would cover that one person logging in from
> multiple computers. If you are asking "Can I use one user name
> and have ten different PEOPLE using one name," then you would
> need ten user CALs.
>
> Vera, is that correct?
 
Re: Device cal or user cal

Cool. I just wanted to make sure the OP understood that. I thought I had it
right!

--
Gregg Hill

DISCLAIMER WARNING: the information contained in any reply I make is merely
an OPINION, one that I hope you will consider when you make a choice as to
what you will do on your systems or network.

**No recommendation is to be implied by my OPINION.**

There, that should cover it!






"Vera Noest [MVP]" <Vera.Noest@remove-this.hem.utfors.se> wrote in message
news:Xns99A8832BEA5F9veranoesthemutforsse@207.46.248.16...
> Yes, "User" in Per User CALs should be interpreted as "person", not
> as "user account".
> _________________________________________________________
> Vera Noest
> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> *----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*
>
> "Gregg Hill" <bogus@nowhere.com> wrote on 11 sep 2007:
>
>> May I add a clarification? If I understand TS licensing
>> correctly, then if you log in using one user name from multiple
>> machines, AND it is the same PERSON logging in, then yes, a
>> single user CAL would cover that one person logging in from
>> multiple computers. If you are asking "Can I use one user name
>> and have ten different PEOPLE using one name," then you would
>> need ten user CALs.
>>
>> Vera, is that correct?
 
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