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Morning all, have a question regarding a licensing.

We currently have a 2003 terminal server in our domain users are accessing
from another domain (managed my another supplier) my question is this, what
would the users require if they added a new machine into their domain with
regards to both server CAL's and TS CAL's.

Would they need 1 TS CAL and 1 Server CAL, or would they need 1 TS CAL and 2
Server CAL's.

Also, is the situation was changed slightly and the TS was in the same
domain as the users workstations, would then then still need 2 server CAL's
(one for the domain controller and one for the TS) plus the one TS CAL or
only 1 and 1.

thanks
 
Re: Licensing

I assume that the TS Licensing server is currently located in the
same domain as your Terminal Server?
Are both domains part of the same Active Directory forest, or are
they domains in different forests?
If the latter, is there a trust relationship between the forests?
This is needed if you want both Terminal Servers to use a single TS
Licensing Server, since Terminal Server Licensing Servers can only
issue TS CALs to Terminal Servers which are located in the same
domain or in trusted domains.

What are the OS licensing modes of all DC's and servers, both in
your domain and the other? Are they licensed in the "Per Server"
mode, or in the "Per Device or Per User" mode?
_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

=?Utf-8?B?TWFyaw==?= <mortonm@quorumis.com> wrote on 14 sep 2007
in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> Morning all, have a question regarding a licensing.
>
> We currently have a 2003 terminal server in our domain users are
> accessing from another domain (managed my another supplier) my
> question is this, what would the users require if they added a
> new machine into their domain with regards to both server CAL's
> and TS CAL's.
>
> Would they need 1 TS CAL and 1 Server CAL, or would they need 1
> TS CAL and 2 Server CAL's.
>
> Also, is the situation was changed slightly and the TS was in
> the same domain as the users workstations, would then then still
> need 2 server CAL's (one for the domain controller and one for
> the TS) plus the one TS CAL or only 1 and 1.
>
> thanks
 
Re: Licensing

Yes, the TS licensing is in the same domain as the Terminal Server (let's
call this domain 2). The domains however are not in the same forest and there
is no trust relationship back to that domain, they are completly seperate.

Both the servers are in "per server" mode and there is only a TS in the one
domain (domain 2) but the machines that are connecting to the TS are in
Domain 1 connecting to the TS in Domain 2.

If TS Licensing was running on the server they were connecting too and the
server was in the domain the machines are connecting too, this was my
question if they would modify the amount of Server CAL's they would need, i
realize in either state they would need 1 TS CAL, but really the question
woudl be the ser CAL's

The domain the TS is in is 2003 server and the TS itself is also, the domain
(domain 1) the machines connecting to are in is 2000 in some cases and 2003
in others.

I appreciate you help,

thanks

"Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> I assume that the TS Licensing server is currently located in the
> same domain as your Terminal Server?
> Are both domains part of the same Active Directory forest, or are
> they domains in different forests?
> If the latter, is there a trust relationship between the forests?
> This is needed if you want both Terminal Servers to use a single TS
> Licensing Server, since Terminal Server Licensing Servers can only
> issue TS CALs to Terminal Servers which are located in the same
> domain or in trusted domains.
>
> What are the OS licensing modes of all DC's and servers, both in
> your domain and the other? Are they licensed in the "Per Server"
> mode, or in the "Per Device or Per User" mode?
> _________________________________________________________
> Vera Noest
> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>
> =?Utf-8?B?TWFyaw==?= <mortonm@quorumis.com> wrote on 14 sep 2007
> in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>
> > Morning all, have a question regarding a licensing.
> >
> > We currently have a 2003 terminal server in our domain users are
> > accessing from another domain (managed my another supplier) my
> > question is this, what would the users require if they added a
> > new machine into their domain with regards to both server CAL's
> > and TS CAL's.
> >
> > Would they need 1 TS CAL and 1 Server CAL, or would they need 1
> > TS CAL and 2 Server CAL's.
> >
> > Also, is the situation was changed slightly and the TS was in
> > the same domain as the users workstations, would then then still
> > need 2 server CAL's (one for the domain controller and one for
> > the TS) plus the one TS CAL or only 1 and 1.
> >
> > thanks
>
 
Re: Licensing

Windows licensing requirements for 2 different versions of the OS
in 2 untrusted domains is way above my head.

I would recommend that you contact you local Microsoft
representative to get an assesment of your licensing requirements.

_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

=?Utf-8?B?TWFyaw==?= <mortonm@quorumis.com> wrote on 14 sep 2007
in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> Yes, the TS licensing is in the same domain as the Terminal
> Server (let's call this domain 2). The domains however are not
> in the same forest and there is no trust relationship back to
> that domain, they are completly seperate.
>
> Both the servers are in "per server" mode and there is only a TS
> in the one domain (domain 2) but the machines that are
> connecting to the TS are in Domain 1 connecting to the TS in
> Domain 2.
>
> If TS Licensing was running on the server they were connecting
> too and the server was in the domain the machines are connecting
> too, this was my question if they would modify the amount of
> Server CAL's they would need, i realize in either state they
> would need 1 TS CAL, but really the question woudl be the ser
> CAL's
>
> The domain the TS is in is 2003 server and the TS itself is
> also, the domain (domain 1) the machines connecting to are in is
> 2000 in some cases and 2003 in others.
>
> I appreciate you help,
>
> thanks
>
> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> I assume that the TS Licensing server is currently located in
>> the same domain as your Terminal Server?
>> Are both domains part of the same Active Directory forest, or
>> are they domains in different forests?
>> If the latter, is there a trust relationship between the
>> forests? This is needed if you want both Terminal Servers to
>> use a single TS Licensing Server, since Terminal Server
>> Licensing Servers can only issue TS CALs to Terminal Servers
>> which are located in the same domain or in trusted domains.
>>
>> What are the OS licensing modes of all DC's and servers, both
>> in your domain and the other? Are they licensed in the "Per
>> Server" mode, or in the "Per Device or Per User" mode?
>> _________________________________________________________
>> Vera Noest
>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>>
>> =?Utf-8?B?TWFyaw==?= <mortonm@quorumis.com> wrote on 14 sep
>> 2007 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>>
>> > Morning all, have a question regarding a licensing.
>> >
>> > We currently have a 2003 terminal server in our domain users
>> > are accessing from another domain (managed my another
>> > supplier) my question is this, what would the users require
>> > if they added a new machine into their domain with regards to
>> > both server CAL's and TS CAL's.
>> >
>> > Would they need 1 TS CAL and 1 Server CAL, or would they need
>> > 1 TS CAL and 2 Server CAL's.
>> >
>> > Also, is the situation was changed slightly and the TS was in
>> > the same domain as the users workstations, would then then
>> > still need 2 server CAL's (one for the domain controller and
>> > one for the TS) plus the one TS CAL or only 1 and 1.
>> >
>> > thanks
 
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