change from remote desktop for administration to per device

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Could someone explain how i can do this? I have a windows 2003 enterprise
license server. In TS configuration/Server settings my only available option
is Remote desktop for administration and i need to change to per device to be
in sync with our terminal servers. It says to use Add/Remove but am unsure of
which componets i am to add/remove. This server presently has over 300
temporary licenses issued and users are now receiving warnings that their
client license is about to expire in x amout of days. This would also ideally
be done during production hours.

Thanks in advance,
 
Re: change from remote desktop for administration to per device

You go to add/remove programs, windows components, terminal services.
This will put your into application mode. Although if your handing out
300 temp licenses it sounds like you have a server already in
application mode and you need to buy terminal services CAL's.

Jeff Pitsch
Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
Citrix Technology Professional
Provision Networks VIP

Forums not enough?
Get support from the experts at your business
http://jeffpitschconsulting.com


John wrote:
> Could someone explain how i can do this? I have a windows 2003 enterprise
> license server. In TS configuration/Server settings my only available option
> is Remote desktop for administration and i need to change to per device to be
> in sync with our terminal servers. It says to use Add/Remove but am unsure of
> which componets i am to add/remove. This server presently has over 300
> temporary licenses issued and users are now receiving warnings that their
> client license is about to expire in x amout of days. This would also ideally
> be done during production hours.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
 
Re: change from remote desktop for administration to per device

Hey Jeff,

Looks like this server has the terminal server licensing componet installed
on it. It has 359 temporary licenses issued and in the TSlicensing snap in i
select the server in question and i have 3 items .

Type Total Avail Issued
Windows 2000 Server - T S CAL Token (per-device) Volume license 500 500
0
Temp licenses fow Windows Server 2003 TS PerDevice Temp - - 349
Existing Win 2000 Server-TS CAL Token (per device) Built-in Unlim
Unlim 0

All of our Terminal servers are configured as per device and we only want to
use one license server (a windows server 2003 that is already exisiting and
assigning licenses). So i'm wondering what i would need to do to migrate to
the exisiting license server and get this one offline. Keeping in mind this
is a DC and am also concerned about the exisiting clients with temporary
licenses.

Thanks very much,

"Jeff Pitsch" wrote:

> You go to add/remove programs, windows components, terminal services.
> This will put your into application mode. Although if your handing out
> 300 temp licenses it sounds like you have a server already in
> application mode and you need to buy terminal services CAL's.
>
> Jeff Pitsch
> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> Citrix Technology Professional
> Provision Networks VIP
>
> Forums not enough?
> Get support from the experts at your business
> http://jeffpitschconsulting.com
>
>
> John wrote:
> > Could someone explain how i can do this? I have a windows 2003 enterprise
> > license server. In TS configuration/Server settings my only available option
> > is Remote desktop for administration and i need to change to per device to be
> > in sync with our terminal servers. It says to use Add/Remove but am unsure of
> > which componets i am to add/remove. This server presently has over 300
> > temporary licenses issued and users are now receiving warnings that their
> > client license is about to expire in x amout of days. This would also ideally
> > be done during production hours.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
>
 
Re: change from remote desktop for administration to per device

Not only does it have the TS Licensing Services installed, it also
holds 500 W2K TS CALs. But since none of these licenses have been
issued, you probably don't have any W2K Terminal Servers in the
domain anymore? If that is the case, then all you would need to do
is to make sure that all Terminal Server connect to the correct TS
Licensing Server in your domain as their preferred LS.
Easiest done with a GPO, but you can also do it on each server, in
Terminal Server Configuration.

You can make this configuration change while the servers are in
production. You don't need to and cannot migrate temporary
licenses. They are stored locally on each client, so changing the
preferred Licensing Server doesn't affect your clients.
I hope that your main TS Licensing Server has a lot of free 2003 TS
CALs available :-)
_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

=?Utf-8?B?Sm9obg==?= <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 14
sep 2007 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> Hey Jeff,
>
> Looks like this server has the terminal server licensing
> componet installed on it. It has 359 temporary licenses issued
> and in the TSlicensing snap in i select the server in question
> and i have 3 items .
>
>
> Type Total Avail Issued
> Windows 2000 Server - T S CAL Token (per-device) Volume license
> 500 500
> 0
> Temp licenses fow Windows Server 2003 TS PerDevice Temp -
> - 349 Existing Win 2000 Server-TS CAL Token (per device)
> Built-in Unlim Unlim 0
>
> All of our Terminal servers are configured as per device and we
> only want to use one license server (a windows server 2003 that
> is already exisiting and assigning licenses). So i'm wondering
> what i would need to do to migrate to the exisiting license
> server and get this one offline. Keeping in mind this is a DC
> and am also concerned about the exisiting clients with temporary
> licenses.
>
> Thanks very much,
>
> "Jeff Pitsch" wrote:
>
>> You go to add/remove programs, windows components, terminal
>> services. This will put your into application mode. Although
>> if your handing out 300 temp licenses it sounds like you have a
>> server already in application mode and you need to buy terminal
>> services CAL's.
>>
>> Jeff Pitsch
>> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>> Citrix Technology Professional
>> Provision Networks VIP
>>
>> Forums not enough?
>> Get support from the experts at your business
>> http://jeffpitschconsulting.com
>>
>>
>> John wrote:
>> > Could someone explain how i can do this? I have a windows
>> > 2003 enterprise license server. In TS configuration/Server
>> > settings my only available option is Remote desktop for
>> > administration and i need to change to per device to be
>> > in sync with our terminal servers. It says to use Add/Remove
>> > but am unsure of which componets i am to add/remove. This
>> > server presently has over 300 temporary licenses issued and
>> > users are now receiving warnings that their client license is
>> > about to expire in x amout of days. This would also ideally
>> > be done during production hours.
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance,
 
Re: change from remote desktop for administration to per device

thanks Vera,

my concern was that i have changed the GPO to point our TS's to our single
license server, I deleted the key MSlicensing on my workstation, restarted,
and TS'd into one of our terminal servers and when i checked the license snap
in on the license server i saw that i still had a temporary license issued by
the............I think i just answered my own question. I'd need to restart
or run gpupdate on the terminal server before i got a valid license :-)

thank you very much for your quick response. we are all very lucky for folks
like yourself and i appreciate your time,

John,

"Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> Not only does it have the TS Licensing Services installed, it also
> holds 500 W2K TS CALs. But since none of these licenses have been
> issued, you probably don't have any W2K Terminal Servers in the
> domain anymore? If that is the case, then all you would need to do
> is to make sure that all Terminal Server connect to the correct TS
> Licensing Server in your domain as their preferred LS.
> Easiest done with a GPO, but you can also do it on each server, in
> Terminal Server Configuration.
>
> You can make this configuration change while the servers are in
> production. You don't need to and cannot migrate temporary
> licenses. They are stored locally on each client, so changing the
> preferred Licensing Server doesn't affect your clients.
> I hope that your main TS Licensing Server has a lot of free 2003 TS
> CALs available :-)
> _________________________________________________________
> Vera Noest
> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>
> =?Utf-8?B?Sm9obg==?= <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 14
> sep 2007 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>
> > Hey Jeff,
> >
> > Looks like this server has the terminal server licensing
> > componet installed on it. It has 359 temporary licenses issued
> > and in the TSlicensing snap in i select the server in question
> > and i have 3 items .
> >
> >
> > Type Total Avail Issued
> > Windows 2000 Server - T S CAL Token (per-device) Volume license
> > 500 500
> > 0
> > Temp licenses fow Windows Server 2003 TS PerDevice Temp -
> > - 349 Existing Win 2000 Server-TS CAL Token (per device)
> > Built-in Unlim Unlim 0
> >
> > All of our Terminal servers are configured as per device and we
> > only want to use one license server (a windows server 2003 that
> > is already exisiting and assigning licenses). So i'm wondering
> > what i would need to do to migrate to the exisiting license
> > server and get this one offline. Keeping in mind this is a DC
> > and am also concerned about the exisiting clients with temporary
> > licenses.
> >
> > Thanks very much,
> >
> > "Jeff Pitsch" wrote:
> >
> >> You go to add/remove programs, windows components, terminal
> >> services. This will put your into application mode. Although
> >> if your handing out 300 temp licenses it sounds like you have a
> >> server already in application mode and you need to buy terminal
> >> services CAL's.
> >>
> >> Jeff Pitsch
> >> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> >> Citrix Technology Professional
> >> Provision Networks VIP
> >>
> >> Forums not enough?
> >> Get support from the experts at your business
> >> http://jeffpitschconsulting.com
> >>
> >>
> >> John wrote:
> >> > Could someone explain how i can do this? I have a windows
> >> > 2003 enterprise license server. In TS configuration/Server
> >> > settings my only available option is Remote desktop for
> >> > administration and i need to change to per device to be
> >> > in sync with our terminal servers. It says to use Add/Remove
> >> > but am unsure of which componets i am to add/remove. This
> >> > server presently has over 300 temporary licenses issued and
> >> > users are now receiving warnings that their client license is
> >> > about to expire in x amout of days. This would also ideally
> >> > be done during production hours.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance,
>
 
Re: change from remote desktop for administration to per device

forgot to ask,

could i uninstall the windows componet "Terminal Server Licensing" without
concern of the temporary clients unable to TS into our enviroment? This just
to elimante any future mishaps.

Thanks again,

"Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> Not only does it have the TS Licensing Services installed, it also
> holds 500 W2K TS CALs. But since none of these licenses have been
> issued, you probably don't have any W2K Terminal Servers in the
> domain anymore? If that is the case, then all you would need to do
> is to make sure that all Terminal Server connect to the correct TS
> Licensing Server in your domain as their preferred LS.
> Easiest done with a GPO, but you can also do it on each server, in
> Terminal Server Configuration.
>
> You can make this configuration change while the servers are in
> production. You don't need to and cannot migrate temporary
> licenses. They are stored locally on each client, so changing the
> preferred Licensing Server doesn't affect your clients.
> I hope that your main TS Licensing Server has a lot of free 2003 TS
> CALs available :-)
> _________________________________________________________
> Vera Noest
> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>
> =?Utf-8?B?Sm9obg==?= <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 14
> sep 2007 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>
> > Hey Jeff,
> >
> > Looks like this server has the terminal server licensing
> > componet installed on it. It has 359 temporary licenses issued
> > and in the TSlicensing snap in i select the server in question
> > and i have 3 items .
> >
> >
> > Type Total Avail Issued
> > Windows 2000 Server - T S CAL Token (per-device) Volume license
> > 500 500
> > 0
> > Temp licenses fow Windows Server 2003 TS PerDevice Temp -
> > - 349 Existing Win 2000 Server-TS CAL Token (per device)
> > Built-in Unlim Unlim 0
> >
> > All of our Terminal servers are configured as per device and we
> > only want to use one license server (a windows server 2003 that
> > is already exisiting and assigning licenses). So i'm wondering
> > what i would need to do to migrate to the exisiting license
> > server and get this one offline. Keeping in mind this is a DC
> > and am also concerned about the exisiting clients with temporary
> > licenses.
> >
> > Thanks very much,
> >
> > "Jeff Pitsch" wrote:
> >
> >> You go to add/remove programs, windows components, terminal
> >> services. This will put your into application mode. Although
> >> if your handing out 300 temp licenses it sounds like you have a
> >> server already in application mode and you need to buy terminal
> >> services CAL's.
> >>
> >> Jeff Pitsch
> >> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> >> Citrix Technology Professional
> >> Provision Networks VIP
> >>
> >> Forums not enough?
> >> Get support from the experts at your business
> >> http://jeffpitschconsulting.com
> >>
> >>
> >> John wrote:
> >> > Could someone explain how i can do this? I have a windows
> >> > 2003 enterprise license server. In TS configuration/Server
> >> > settings my only available option is Remote desktop for
> >> > administration and i need to change to per device to be
> >> > in sync with our terminal servers. It says to use Add/Remove
> >> > but am unsure of which componets i am to add/remove. This
> >> > server presently has over 300 temporary licenses issued and
> >> > users are now receiving warnings that their client license is
> >> > about to expire in x amout of days. This would also ideally
> >> > be done during production hours.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance,
>
 
Re: change from remote desktop for administration to per device

FYI: on the first connection, clients are always issued a temporary
license. A permanent license is issued on the second connection.
_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

=?Utf-8?B?Sm9obg==?= <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 14
sep 2007 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> thanks Vera,
>
> my concern was that i have changed the GPO to point our TS's to
> our single license server, I deleted the key MSlicensing on my
> workstation, restarted, and TS'd into one of our terminal
> servers and when i checked the license snap in on the license
> server i saw that i still had a temporary license issued by
> the............I think i just answered my own question. I'd need
> to restart or run gpupdate on the terminal server before i got a
> valid license :-)
>
> thank you very much for your quick response. we are all very
> lucky for folks like yourself and i appreciate your time,
>
> John,
>
> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Not only does it have the TS Licensing Services installed, it
>> also holds 500 W2K TS CALs. But since none of these licenses
>> have been issued, you probably don't have any W2K Terminal
>> Servers in the domain anymore? If that is the case, then all
>> you would need to do is to make sure that all Terminal Server
>> connect to the correct TS Licensing Server in your domain as
>> their preferred LS. Easiest done with a GPO, but you can also
>> do it on each server, in Terminal Server Configuration.
>>
>> You can make this configuration change while the servers are in
>> production. You don't need to and cannot migrate temporary
>> licenses. They are stored locally on each client, so changing
>> the preferred Licensing Server doesn't affect your clients.
>> I hope that your main TS Licensing Server has a lot of free
>> 2003 TS CALs available :-)
>> _________________________________________________________
>> Vera Noest
>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>>
>> =?Utf-8?B?Sm9obg==?= <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on
>> 14 sep 2007 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>>
>> > Hey Jeff,
>> >
>> > Looks like this server has the terminal server licensing
>> > componet installed on it. It has 359 temporary licenses
>> > issued and in the TSlicensing snap in i select the server in
>> > question and i have 3 items .
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Type Total Avail Issued
>> > Windows 2000 Server - T S CAL Token (per-device) Volume
>> > license 500 500
>> > 0
>> > Temp licenses fow Windows Server 2003 TS PerDevice Temp -
>> > - 349 Existing Win 2000 Server-TS CAL Token (per
>> > device)
>> > Built-in Unlim Unlim 0
>> >
>> > All of our Terminal servers are configured as per device and
>> > we only want to use one license server (a windows server 2003
>> > that is already exisiting and assigning licenses). So i'm
>> > wondering what i would need to do to migrate to the exisiting
>> > license server and get this one offline. Keeping in mind this
>> > is a DC and am also concerned about the exisiting clients
>> > with temporary licenses.
>> >
>> > Thanks very much,
>> >
>> > "Jeff Pitsch" wrote:
>> >
>> >> You go to add/remove programs, windows components, terminal
>> >> services. This will put your into application mode.
>> >> Although if your handing out 300 temp licenses it sounds
>> >> like you have a server already in application mode and you
>> >> need to buy terminal services CAL's.
>> >>
>> >> Jeff Pitsch
>> >> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>> >> Citrix Technology Professional
>> >> Provision Networks VIP
>> >>
>> >> Forums not enough?
>> >> Get support from the experts at your business
>> >> http://jeffpitschconsulting.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> John wrote:
>> >> > Could someone explain how i can do this? I have a windows
>> >> > 2003 enterprise license server. In TS configuration/Server
>> >> > settings my only available option is Remote desktop for
>> >> > administration and i need to change to per device to be
>> >> > in sync with our terminal servers. It says to use
>> >> > Add/Remove but am unsure of which componets i am to
>> >> > add/remove. This server presently has over 300 temporary
>> >> > licenses issued and users are now receiving warnings that
>> >> > their client license is about to expire in x amout of
>> >> > days. This would also ideally be done during production
>> >> > hours.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks in advance,
 
Re: change from remote desktop for administration to per device

Yes, you can, since the temporary licenses are stored on the
clients.
Note that uninstalling the TS Licensing Services (which is a good
idea!) could require a reboot of the server. I'm not sure.
But maybe you can uninstall the service and schedule an automatica
reboot during off hours?
_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

=?Utf-8?B?Sm9obg==?= <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 14
sep 2007 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> forgot to ask,
>
> could i uninstall the windows componet "Terminal Server
> Licensing" without concern of the temporary clients unable to TS
> into our enviroment? This just to elimante any future mishaps.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Not only does it have the TS Licensing Services installed, it
>> also holds 500 W2K TS CALs. But since none of these licenses
>> have been issued, you probably don't have any W2K Terminal
>> Servers in the domain anymore? If that is the case, then all
>> you would need to do is to make sure that all Terminal Server
>> connect to the correct TS Licensing Server in your domain as
>> their preferred LS. Easiest done with a GPO, but you can also
>> do it on each server, in Terminal Server Configuration.
>>
>> You can make this configuration change while the servers are in
>> production. You don't need to and cannot migrate temporary
>> licenses. They are stored locally on each client, so changing
>> the preferred Licensing Server doesn't affect your clients.
>> I hope that your main TS Licensing Server has a lot of free
>> 2003 TS CALs available :-)
>> _________________________________________________________
>> Vera Noest
>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>>
>> =?Utf-8?B?Sm9obg==?= <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on
>> 14 sep 2007 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>>
>> > Hey Jeff,
>> >
>> > Looks like this server has the terminal server licensing
>> > componet installed on it. It has 359 temporary licenses
>> > issued and in the TSlicensing snap in i select the server in
>> > question and i have 3 items .
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Type Total Avail Issued
>> > Windows 2000 Server - T S CAL Token (per-device) Volume
>> > license 500 500
>> > 0
>> > Temp licenses fow Windows Server 2003 TS PerDevice Temp -
>> > - 349 Existing Win 2000 Server-TS CAL Token (per
>> > device)
>> > Built-in Unlim Unlim 0
>> >
>> > All of our Terminal servers are configured as per device and
>> > we only want to use one license server (a windows server 2003
>> > that is already exisiting and assigning licenses). So i'm
>> > wondering what i would need to do to migrate to the exisiting
>> > license server and get this one offline. Keeping in mind this
>> > is a DC and am also concerned about the exisiting clients
>> > with temporary licenses.
>> >
>> > Thanks very much,
>> >
>> > "Jeff Pitsch" wrote:
>> >
>> >> You go to add/remove programs, windows components, terminal
>> >> services. This will put your into application mode.
>> >> Although if your handing out 300 temp licenses it sounds
>> >> like you have a server already in application mode and you
>> >> need to buy terminal services CAL's.
>> >>
>> >> Jeff Pitsch
>> >> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>> >> Citrix Technology Professional
>> >> Provision Networks VIP
>> >>
>> >> Forums not enough?
>> >> Get support from the experts at your business
>> >> http://jeffpitschconsulting.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> John wrote:
>> >> > Could someone explain how i can do this? I have a windows
>> >> > 2003 enterprise license server. In TS configuration/Server
>> >> > settings my only available option is Remote desktop for
>> >> > administration and i need to change to per device to be
>> >> > in sync with our terminal servers. It says to use
>> >> > Add/Remove but am unsure of which componets i am to
>> >> > add/remove. This server presently has over 300 temporary
>> >> > licenses issued and users are now receiving warnings that
>> >> > their client license is about to expire in x amout of
>> >> > days. This would also ideally be done during production
>> >> > hours.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks in advance,
 
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