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Im still working on a problem for a VB.Net intro class and our problem is : To have an input box to enter text, two buttons, one to convert to upper case and the other to convert to lower case and display in another text box, without use of VBs predifined functions, ToLower, ToUpper. I need some direction, I dont want someone to hand me a solution I just need to help with the code and order of procedures. Help!