VC++ and games

[hitechoutlaw]

i was wandering what yall think i should use VC++.net or VC++6. my friend told me to use VC++6 because, and i quote:

*****: example:
*****: Id use C++.Net for making a large cash register netowrk program or an accounting program that requires several users to work together
*****: but Id use VC++ for designing a Large scale chess game

what should i start learing?

 

[mutant]

In vc++.net you can use managed extensions, in vc++ 6 you cant. I think you should go with .net
But basically its the same except those extensions, DX will work with both for games good.

 

[hitechoutlaw]

what is managed extensions?

 

[mutant]

Managed extensions is the whole .NET part of VC++.NET
This means that managed c++ app uses the same class library as vb or c#. But c++ gets an advantage, it can combine managed and unmanaged code in one app.

 

[hitechoutlaw]

oic thanks

 

[wyrd]

Yes and managed extentions = needless overhead.

Sure, .NET is fine for chess (any .NET app regardless of language.. VB, C#, C++, etc run the same speed).. but, if you want a high quality 3D game (which may not be what youre talking about), youll need to go C or C++ and possibly sprinkle in some assembly.

 

[mutant]

He is talking about visual c++ .net So i just gave him an answer about it, of course "raw" c++ would be better.

 

[hitechoutlaw]

i want to go into 3d game making i guess ill start learing "raw" c++ instead of vc++. thanks guys

is it possible to make 3d games with VC++.net? is the only differance that there would be slower preformance(is that is what im thinking overheed is)?

 

[mutant]

It is possible, and yeah, it would be slower.

 

[Squirm]

Visual C++.Net is just Microsofts newest C++ compiler. Sure, there is MFC and now Managed Extensions, but you are not forced to use either. Theres really no such thing as learning VC++. What you probably mean is learning to use the MFC library.

Yes it is possible to make 3D games with VC++(.Net), I would even advise it, if you stay away from MFC and Managed Extensions. C++ is the language of choice for the game developer, with a sprinkling of inline ASM for those speed-critical functions.

You can use DirectX 8 or 9, or even OpenGL if you fancy a different programming style.

 

[mutant]

Great description Squirm. I could have been a little confusing cause by saying vc++.net i meant using managed c++, and of course like you said vc++ compiler can do normal win32 apps too.

 

[hitechoutlaw]

so as long as i stay away MFC and Managed Extensions vc++,net will work great?

thanks guys

 

[mutant]

Yes, use Win32 Application project type.

 

[hitechoutlaw]

ok i get it now thanks guys