Just curious. . .Make c++ almost like c#

[aewarnick]

I have been thinking about this framework thing lately. Could I create my own framework, per say, for c++ so I could program almost as fast with c++ as with c#?

Is that what the dot net framework does?

 

[mutant]

Framework is just a set of a lot of classes
So if you make yourself some classes that will make C++ programming easier then you could have your own little framework

 

[aewarnick]

That is exactly what I thought. C++ would still be more time consuming though, wouldnt it?

 

[mutant]

It really depends on what you try to accomplish with the C++ code. .NET Framework makes a lot of things go easy, but this doesnt mean C++ will kill you

 

[aewarnick]

C++ was the first language I started learning and I quickly moved to C# because of the ease of use.

But I have heard one man say that he could develop programs just as fast as vb6 using Borland C++ Builder. Do you think that could be true?

 

[mutant]

Borland Builder is whole another story.
Builder contains Drag and drop form designers, just like VB or C#. But it needs some borland run times along with it.

 

[aewarnick]

Visual studio for C++ does not?

 

[mutant]

VS.NET 2003 has a form designer but only for managed c++, not the normal one.
The best thing to do when doing C++ is to stay with good old winapi controls.

 

[aewarnick]

Are you talking about the standard template library or something else?

 

[Squirm]

With VC++ 5, 6 etc we had MFC (Microsoft Foundation Classes). The IDE provided a form/dialog designer for MFC applications. However, a lot of programmers stay away from MFC, preferring to do everything the hard way (Win32 API). With VC++.Net we still have MFC, but you can also use Managed Extensions.

 

[aewarnick]

Then how do those people design visually good looking programs without being able to see what they are doing until they run the program?

 

[Divil]

With difficulty Hence the popularity of RAD languages.

 

[aewarnick]

ahhhh!!

 

[AWS]

A good C programmer will know exactly what they want it to look like before they start and will code the way they picture it in their mind.

 

[aewarnick]

Time Consuming...