Automatic Updates Service

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When attempting to start the Automatic Updates Service we get an 'Access
Denied' error. This is causing issues with ITMU and the Updates Tool fails
with an 11204 error.

There are a number of articles on the net that we have tried, e.g. resetting
MS Updates defualt registry security, service security, re-installing WUA20
(/wuforce).

To 'manually' correct the issue we can edit the local GPO and allow access
to the Microsoft Updates site and when contacting the site it knows that the
software is not install (or that there is a problem) and installs the WU
software. Exiting the site and restarting the Automatic Updates service
works again (in 95% of the instances) and the ITMU package is now able to
process the updates and install the patches. Strangely the
WindowsUpdateAgent20-x86.exe thinks that the software is already installed
and why we tried the /wuforce to reinstall.

This is affecting only 800-900 machines out of 22k nationally, but that
number is a lot to have to go touch.

Does anybody have any ideas out there or encountered the same of similar
issues?
 
Re: Automatic Updates Service

I am with you guys . I know very little about my PC and just want to keep it
updated . I think Microsoft should fix the update obviously it does not work
.. Keep getting the little yellow triangle that keeps telling me to install
the 2 updates .When I do the message says the updates were successful but
not showing on my add remove program list .

--
Fran


"DaleSiar" <DaleSiar@community.nospam> wrote in message
news:%23ehPpJ8wHHA.4308@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> When attempting to start the Automatic Updates Service we get an 'Access
> Denied' error. This is causing issues with ITMU and the Updates Tool
> fails
> with an 11204 error.
>
> There are a number of articles on the net that we have tried, e.g.
> resetting
> MS Updates defualt registry security, service security, re-installing
> WUA20
> (/wuforce).
>
> To 'manually' correct the issue we can edit the local GPO and allow access
> to the Microsoft Updates site and when contacting the site it knows that
> the
> software is not install (or that there is a problem) and installs the WU
> software. Exiting the site and restarting the Automatic Updates service
> works again (in 95% of the instances) and the ITMU package is now able to
> process the updates and install the patches. Strangely the
> WindowsUpdateAgent20-x86.exe thinks that the software is already installed
> and why we tried the /wuforce to reinstall.
>
> This is affecting only 800-900 machines out of 22k nationally, but that
> number is a lot to have to go touch.
>
> Does anybody have any ideas out there or encountered the same of similar
> issues?
>
>
>
 
Re: Automatic Updates Service

Start a free Windows Update support incident request:
https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=6527

Customers in the U.S. and Canada can receive technical support from
Microsoft Product Support Services at 1-866-PCSAFETY. There is no-charge for
support calls that are associated with security updates. When you call,
clearly state that your problem is related to a Security Update and cite the
update's KB number (e.g., KB931678).

In other countries, see http://support.microsoft.com/security > "No-Charge
Support...for virus and other security-related" issues in right-hand menu
for localized contact information.

For more information about how to contact Microsoft for support issues,
visit the International Support Web site:
https://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org

DaleSiar wrote:
> When attempting to start the Automatic Updates Service we get an 'Access
> Denied' error. This is causing issues with ITMU and the Updates Tool
> fails
> with an 11204 error.
>
> There are a number of articles on the net that we have tried, e.g.
> resetting
> MS Updates defualt registry security, service security, re-installing
> WUA20
> (/wuforce).
>
> To 'manually' correct the issue we can edit the local GPO and allow access
> to the Microsoft Updates site and when contacting the site it knows that
> the
> software is not install (or that there is a problem) and installs the WU
> software. Exiting the site and restarting the Automatic Updates service
> works again (in 95% of the instances) and the ITMU package is now able to
> process the updates and install the patches. Strangely the
> WindowsUpdateAgent20-x86.exe thinks that the software is already installed
> and why we tried the /wuforce to reinstall.
>
> This is affecting only 800-900 machines out of 22k nationally, but that
> number is a lot to have to go touch.
>
> Does anybody have any ideas out there or encountered the same of similar
> issues?
 
Re: Automatic Updates Service

Just did a free windows update incident request will advise when I hear back

--
Fran


"PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:u$wSK1%23wHHA.3944@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Start a free Windows Update support incident request:
> https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=6527
>
> Customers in the U.S. and Canada can receive technical support from
> Microsoft Product Support Services at 1-866-PCSAFETY. There is no-charge
> for support calls that are associated with security updates. When you
> call, clearly state that your problem is related to a Security Update and
> cite the update's KB number (e.g., KB931678).
>
> In other countries, see http://support.microsoft.com/security > "No-Charge
> Support...for virus and other security-related" issues in right-hand menu
> for localized contact information.
>
> For more information about how to contact Microsoft for support issues,
> visit the International Support Web site:
> https://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
> AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
>
> DaleSiar wrote:
>> When attempting to start the Automatic Updates Service we get an 'Access
>> Denied' error. This is causing issues with ITMU and the Updates Tool
>> fails
>> with an 11204 error.
>>
>> There are a number of articles on the net that we have tried, e.g.
>> resetting
>> MS Updates defualt registry security, service security, re-installing
>> WUA20
>> (/wuforce).
>>
>> To 'manually' correct the issue we can edit the local GPO and allow
>> access
>> to the Microsoft Updates site and when contacting the site it knows that
>> the
>> software is not install (or that there is a problem) and installs the WU
>> software. Exiting the site and restarting the Automatic Updates service
>> works again (in 95% of the instances) and the ITMU package is now able to
>> process the updates and install the patches. Strangely the
>> WindowsUpdateAgent20-x86.exe thinks that the software is already
>> installed
>> and why we tried the /wuforce to reinstall.
>>
>> This is affecting only 800-900 machines out of 22k nationally, but that
>> number is a lot to have to go touch.
>>
>> Does anybody have any ideas out there or encountered the same of similar
>> issues?

>
 
Re: Automatic Updates Service

/Please/ do!

Ray &Fran wrote:
> Just did a free windows update incident request will advise when I hear
> back
>
>
> "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:u$wSK1%23wHHA.3944@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Start a free Windows Update support incident request:
>> https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=6527
>>
>> Customers in the U.S. and Canada can receive technical support from
>> Microsoft Product Support Services at 1-866-PCSAFETY. There is no-charge
>> for support calls that are associated with security updates. When you
>> call, clearly state that your problem is related to a Security Update and
>> cite the update's KB number (e.g., KB931678).
>>
>> In other countries, see http://support.microsoft.com/security >
>> "No-Charge
>> Support...for virus and other security-related" issues in right-hand menu
>> for localized contact information.
>>
>> For more information about how to contact Microsoft for support issues,
>> visit the International Support Web site:
>> https://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
>>
>> DaleSiar wrote:
>>> When attempting to start the Automatic Updates Service we get an 'Access
>>> Denied' error. This is causing issues with ITMU and the Updates Tool
>>> fails
>>> with an 11204 error.
>>>
>>> There are a number of articles on the net that we have tried, e.g.
>>> resetting
>>> MS Updates defualt registry security, service security, re-installing
>>> WUA20
>>> (/wuforce).
>>>
>>> To 'manually' correct the issue we can edit the local GPO and allow
>>> access
>>> to the Microsoft Updates site and when contacting the site it knows that
>>> the
>>> software is not install (or that there is a problem) and installs the WU
>>> software. Exiting the site and restarting the Automatic Updates service
>>> works again (in 95% of the instances) and the ITMU package is now able
>>> to
>>> process the updates and install the patches. Strangely the
>>> WindowsUpdateAgent20-x86.exe thinks that the software is already
>>> installed
>>> and why we tried the /wuforce to reinstall.
>>>
>>> This is affecting only 800-900 machines out of 22k nationally, but that
>>> number is a lot to have to go touch.
>>>
>>> Does anybody have any ideas out there or encountered the same of similar
>>> issues?
 
Re: Automatic Updates Service

Just received an e-mail from Microsoft customer service saying they received
my incident report and I should get a response in 24 hrs. Its a wait game .
I will wait since I don't know enough to do what you experts are doing

--
Fran


"PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%233xE$u$wHHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> /Please/ do!
>
> Ray &Fran wrote:
>> Just did a free windows update incident request will advise when I hear
>> back
>>
>>
>> "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:u$wSK1%23wHHA.3944@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Start a free Windows Update support incident request:
>>> https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=6527
>>>
>>> Customers in the U.S. and Canada can receive technical support from
>>> Microsoft Product Support Services at 1-866-PCSAFETY. There is no-charge
>>> for support calls that are associated with security updates. When you
>>> call, clearly state that your problem is related to a Security Update
>>> and
>>> cite the update's KB number (e.g., KB931678).
>>>
>>> In other countries, see http://support.microsoft.com/security >
>>> "No-Charge
>>> Support...for virus and other security-related" issues in right-hand
>>> menu
>>> for localized contact information.
>>>
>>> For more information about how to contact Microsoft for support issues,
>>> visit the International Support Web site:
>>> https://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx
>>> --
>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
>>>
>>> DaleSiar wrote:
>>>> When attempting to start the Automatic Updates Service we get an
>>>> 'Access
>>>> Denied' error. This is causing issues with ITMU and the Updates Tool
>>>> fails
>>>> with an 11204 error.
>>>>
>>>> There are a number of articles on the net that we have tried, e.g.
>>>> resetting
>>>> MS Updates defualt registry security, service security, re-installing
>>>> WUA20
>>>> (/wuforce).
>>>>
>>>> To 'manually' correct the issue we can edit the local GPO and allow
>>>> access
>>>> to the Microsoft Updates site and when contacting the site it knows
>>>> that
>>>> the
>>>> software is not install (or that there is a problem) and installs the
>>>> WU
>>>> software. Exiting the site and restarting the Automatic Updates
>>>> service
>>>> works again (in 95% of the instances) and the ITMU package is now able
>>>> to
>>>> process the updates and install the patches. Strangely the
>>>> WindowsUpdateAgent20-x86.exe thinks that the software is already
>>>> installed
>>>> and why we tried the /wuforce to reinstall.
>>>>
>>>> This is affecting only 800-900 machines out of 22k nationally, but that
>>>> number is a lot to have to go touch.
>>>>
>>>> Does anybody have any ideas out there or encountered the same of
>>>> similar
>>>> issues?

>
 
Re: Automatic Updates Service

I opened a case also, let's see what the answers are that we get.



"Ray &Fran" <foconnor@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:%23LiaHyHxHHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Just received an e-mail from Microsoft customer service saying they
> received my incident report and I should get a response in 24 hrs. Its a
> wait game . I will wait since I don't know enough to do what you experts
> are doing
>
> --
> Fran
>
>
> "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%233xE$u$wHHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> /Please/ do!
>>
>> Ray &Fran wrote:
>>> Just did a free windows update incident request will advise when I hear
>>> back
>>>
>>>
>>> "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u$wSK1%23wHHA.3944@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Start a free Windows Update support incident request:
>>>> https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=6527
>>>>
>>>> Customers in the U.S. and Canada can receive technical support from
>>>> Microsoft Product Support Services at 1-866-PCSAFETY. There is
>>>> no-charge
>>>> for support calls that are associated with security updates. When you
>>>> call, clearly state that your problem is related to a Security Update
>>>> and
>>>> cite the update's KB number (e.g., KB931678).
>>>>
>>>> In other countries, see http://support.microsoft.com/security >
>>>> "No-Charge
>>>> Support...for virus and other security-related" issues in right-hand
>>>> menu
>>>> for localized contact information.
>>>>
>>>> For more information about how to contact Microsoft for support issues,
>>>> visit the International Support Web site:
>>>> https://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx
>>>> --
>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
>>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
>>>>
>>>> DaleSiar wrote:
>>>>> When attempting to start the Automatic Updates Service we get an
>>>>> 'Access
>>>>> Denied' error. This is causing issues with ITMU and the Updates Tool
>>>>> fails
>>>>> with an 11204 error.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are a number of articles on the net that we have tried, e.g.
>>>>> resetting
>>>>> MS Updates defualt registry security, service security, re-installing
>>>>> WUA20
>>>>> (/wuforce).
>>>>>
>>>>> To 'manually' correct the issue we can edit the local GPO and allow
>>>>> access
>>>>> to the Microsoft Updates site and when contacting the site it knows
>>>>> that
>>>>> the
>>>>> software is not install (or that there is a problem) and installs the
>>>>> WU
>>>>> software. Exiting the site and restarting the Automatic Updates
>>>>> service
>>>>> works again (in 95% of the instances) and the ITMU package is now able
>>>>> to
>>>>> process the updates and install the patches. Strangely the
>>>>> WindowsUpdateAgent20-x86.exe thinks that the software is already
>>>>> installed
>>>>> and why we tried the /wuforce to reinstall.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is affecting only 800-900 machines out of 22k nationally, but
>>>>> that
>>>>> number is a lot to have to go touch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anybody have any ideas out there or encountered the same of
>>>>> similar
>>>>> issues?

>>

>
>
 
Re: Automatic Updates Service

Well Folks received an e-mail and here are my instructions to fix the
problem . I will admit I don't want to tackle this one .Seems very
complicated to me . I am sure I am not alone when I say many computers will
not have this update if you need to do this. Will try to get someone to help
me or wait til Microsoft fixes the update. This is a long one .Maybe someone
with knowledge can try this and see if its easy for an old doll to try



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Thank you for contacting Microsoft Windows Update Support. My name is John
and I am glad to work on this case with you. For your reference, the case ID
for this service request is You can contact me directly by writing an email
to v-30joya@mssupport.microsoft.com with the case ID in the subject line.

From the case log, I understand that updates for the .NET Framework program
cannot be installed properly on the computer. If I have misunderstood your
concern, please do not hesitate to let me know. I understand the
inconvenience you have experienced. Please be assured that I will do my best
to help you.

This issue can occur if the previous .NET Framework component is damaged.
Let's try to remove the previous version of .NET Framework and reinstall all
of them.



Step 1: Download Microsoft Windows Installer CleanUp utility
============================================
1. Visit:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/9/D/E9D80355-7AB4-45B8-80E8-983A48D5E1BD/msicuu2.exe
2. Save the file to your Desktop
3. Please double click the file msicuu2.exe on the Desktop to install this
tool on your computer.



Step 2: Remove .NET Framework 1.1
========================
1. Click Start -> (All) Programs->Windows Installer Clean Up.
2. See if you can find .NET Framework software. If so, remove it.
3. Restart the computer and see if the issue still exists.



For more information, please refer to:
-----------
Title: Description of the Windows Installer CleanUp Utility
Link: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;290301



However, if any problem is encountered when trying to uninstall .NET
Framework 1.1, we can also refer to the following Knowledge Base article to
uninstall it manually.
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=320112



After that, please restart the computer and perform the following
suggestions to reinstall .NET Framework 1.1 and the updates for it.



Step 3: Install .NET Framework 1.1 Redistributable Package and .NET
Framework 1.1 SP1
=================================================================
1. Please download the Microsoft .NET Framework Version 1.1 Redistributable
Package and the updates from the following link and save them to the C drive
(C:\)



Microsoft .NET Framework Version 1.1 Redistributable Package
http://download.microsoft.com/download/a/a/c/aac39226-8825-44ce-90e3-bf8203e74006/dotnetfx.exe



Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1
http://download.microsoft.com/downl...-bdb8-c4e00af5b94b/NDP1.1sp1-KB867460-X86.exe



Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework, Version 1.1 Service Pack 1
(KB928366)
http://www.download.windowsupdate.c..._20112ef50011e0de2c0e3378139245d81a178b15.exe



2. When the File Download window appears, please click the Save button, and
follow the directions to save it to Windows. After downloading the Microsoft
..NET Framework 1.1 setup file onto your computer, please double-click the
..NET Framework files to manually install them one by one.



If an error is encountered when installing .NET Framework 1.1, we can also
refer to the following Microsoft Knowledge Base article to troubleshoot this
issue:



How to troubleshoot Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 installation issues
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=824643

If any error code or error message was received when trying to install these
updates, please assist me to capture an error screenshot file for further
research. The detailed error information will be very useful for us to find
out the problem.

Screenshot

======================

1) If any error message appears please press the Print Screen key (PrtScn)
on your keyboard.

2. Click Start, click Run, type MSPAINT, and click OK.

3. In Paint, click Paste under the Edit Menu, click Save under the File
menu, type a file name for the snap shot, choose JPEG as "Save as type",
click "Desktop" on the left pane, and click Save.

4. Please find the screenshot on the Desktop and send it as an attachment
to: v-30joya@mssupport.microsoft.com.



Note: When attaching files to emails, the process will vary depending on the
email application being used. While you are composing the email, most
applications will provide you with either an "Attach" button or Paper Clip
Icon to click in order to attach a file. Once clicking this button/icon you
must browse to the file you wish to attach and select it by either double
clicking it or clicking it once and then clicking on the "Attach" button.

Please let me know the results at your earliest convenience. I appreciate
your time and effort on this issue. If anything is unclear, please don't
hesitate to let me know and I will be glad to help.

I'm standing by for your reply.

Best Regards,

John Yang

v-30joya@mssupport.microsoft.com

Microsoft Windows Update Support Professional

----------------------------------------------

Very satisfied customers are my top priority. Please let either myself or my
manager know what you think of the level of service provided. You can send
feedback directly to my manager, Tony Tang at
v-30tont@mssupport.microsoft.com.

Windows Live OneCare: http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=4416252

Give your computer continuous antivirus and firewall protection, along with
regular tune-ups and back-ups to maintain its performance.
 
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