Roaming Profiles and Redirected folders

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We use roaming profiles and redirected folders. I want to know what is the
right setting on the share for offline settings.

Should it be:

1. Only the files and programs that users specify will be available offline.

2. All files and programs that users open from the share will be
automatically available offline. Check box Optimized for performance.

3. Files or programs from the share will not be available offline

I am using Option 1 right now, but wondered if it should be option 2. I am
noticing the redirected Desktop is not putting things that are deleted into
the users Recycle Bin and I am wondering if it is because of the share
offline settings I have.

Please advise.

Thanks
 
Re: Roaming Profiles and Redirected folders

Scott,
- For the roaming profiles, disable Offline caching (not available).
- For redirected folders, just the default setting (the top one).
Redirection actually uses the folder on the network, so there's no recycle
bin. VSS can help you here, and its also one of the features of SharePoint.
Anthony,
http://www.airdesk.co.uk





"Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message
news:%23nb0OKs%23HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> We use roaming profiles and redirected folders. I want to know what is
> the right setting on the share for offline settings.
>
> Should it be:
>
> 1. Only the files and programs that users specify will be available
> offline.
>
> 2. All files and programs that users open from the share will be
> automatically available offline. Check box Optimized for performance.
>
> 3. Files or programs from the share will not be available offline
>
> I am using Option 1 right now, but wondered if it should be option 2. I
> am noticing the redirected Desktop is not putting things that are deleted
> into the users Recycle Bin and I am wondering if it is because of the
> share offline settings I have.
>
> Please advise.
>
> Thanks
>
 
Re: Roaming Profiles and Redirected folders

Scott Micale <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote:
> We use roaming profiles and redirected folders. I want to know what
> is the right setting on the share for offline settings.
>
> Should it be:
>
> 1. Only the files and programs that users specify will be available
> offline.
> 2. All files and programs that users open from the share will be
> automatically available offline. Check box Optimized for performance.
>
> 3. Files or programs from the share will not be available offline

I guess my question is, why would you want offline folders enabled for your
LAN-connected workstations at all? I disable it entirely. For laptop users,
you might make a good case....but I've seen far too many people lose data
due to offlline files shenanigans, and I disable offline files on the shares
themselves now.
>
> I am using Option 1 right now, but wondered if it should be option 2.

I wouldn't do that.

> I am noticing the redirected Desktop is not putting things that are
> deleted into the users Recycle Bin and I am wondering if it is
> because of the share offline settings I have.

Hmmm - no, I think that's normal. IIRC when you do redirection, there's a
hidden "recycler" folder in the parent folder.... have you looked in the
user's folders on the server?
>
> Please advise.
>
> Thanks
 
Re: Roaming Profiles and Redirected folders

The reason we enable offline shares for my desktop users is because what if
a server goes down? If offline is enabled then the desktop user can
continue to work until the server comes back online. That is my only
thinking. Is that not the correct way to use it?

I am open to suggestions.


"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:O2r8ELt%23HHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Scott Micale <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote:
>> We use roaming profiles and redirected folders. I want to know what
>> is the right setting on the share for offline settings.
>>
>> Should it be:
>>
>> 1. Only the files and programs that users specify will be available
>> offline.
>> 2. All files and programs that users open from the share will be
>> automatically available offline. Check box Optimized for performance.
>>
>> 3. Files or programs from the share will not be available offline
>
> I guess my question is, why would you want offline folders enabled for
> your LAN-connected workstations at all? I disable it entirely. For laptop
> users, you might make a good case....but I've seen far too many people
> lose data due to offlline files shenanigans, and I disable offline files
> on the shares themselves now.
>>
>> I am using Option 1 right now, but wondered if it should be option 2.
>
> I wouldn't do that.
>
>> I am noticing the redirected Desktop is not putting things that are
>> deleted into the users Recycle Bin and I am wondering if it is
>> because of the share offline settings I have.
>
> Hmmm - no, I think that's normal. IIRC when you do redirection, there's a
> hidden "recycler" folder in the parent folder.... have you looked in the
> user's folders on the server?
>>
>> Please advise.
>>
>> Thanks
>
>
>
 
Re: Roaming Profiles and Redirected folders

In my experience it works flawlessly, and is used for the reason you give,
but other people's experience may be different. You need it for laptops
anyway.
Anthony
http://www.airdesk.co.uk


"Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message
news:uIwyV9t%23HHA.4184@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> The reason we enable offline shares for my desktop users is because what
> if a server goes down? If offline is enabled then the desktop user can
> continue to work until the server comes back online. That is my only
> thinking. Is that not the correct way to use it?
>
> I am open to suggestions.
>
>
> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in
> message news:O2r8ELt%23HHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Scott Micale <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote:
>>> We use roaming profiles and redirected folders. I want to know what
>>> is the right setting on the share for offline settings.
>>>
>>> Should it be:
>>>
>>> 1. Only the files and programs that users specify will be available
>>> offline.
>>> 2. All files and programs that users open from the share will be
>>> automatically available offline. Check box Optimized for performance.
>>>
>>> 3. Files or programs from the share will not be available offline
>>
>> I guess my question is, why would you want offline folders enabled for
>> your LAN-connected workstations at all? I disable it entirely. For laptop
>> users, you might make a good case....but I've seen far too many people
>> lose data due to offlline files shenanigans, and I disable offline files
>> on the shares themselves now.
>>>
>>> I am using Option 1 right now, but wondered if it should be option 2.
>>
>> I wouldn't do that.
>>
>>> I am noticing the redirected Desktop is not putting things that are
>>> deleted into the users Recycle Bin and I am wondering if it is
>>> because of the share offline settings I have.
>>
>> Hmmm - no, I think that's normal. IIRC when you do redirection, there's a
>> hidden "recycler" folder in the parent folder.... have you looked in the
>> user's folders on the server?
>>>
>>> Please advise.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>
>
 
Re: Roaming Profiles and Redirected folders

Anthony,

I have not had many issues with it either. My biggest problem is what you
and I talked about a week or so ago about the roaming profile. If you don't
set a limit on it grows huge and the logon process takes forever. I need to
still determine what folders in the Application Data folder to restrict. I
don't want to restrict the App Data folder, because then if system crashes
none of that logon info, email setup, favorites, etc. are there.

-Scott
"Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message
news:eYjN7Mu%23HHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> In my experience it works flawlessly, and is used for the reason you give,
> but other people's experience may be different. You need it for laptops
> anyway.
> Anthony
> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
>
>
> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message
> news:uIwyV9t%23HHA.4184@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> The reason we enable offline shares for my desktop users is because what
>> if a server goes down? If offline is enabled then the desktop user can
>> continue to work until the server comes back online. That is my only
>> thinking. Is that not the correct way to use it?
>>
>> I am open to suggestions.
>>
>>
>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in
>> message news:O2r8ELt%23HHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Scott Micale <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote:
>>>> We use roaming profiles and redirected folders. I want to know what
>>>> is the right setting on the share for offline settings.
>>>>
>>>> Should it be:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Only the files and programs that users specify will be available
>>>> offline.
>>>> 2. All files and programs that users open from the share will be
>>>> automatically available offline. Check box Optimized for performance.
>>>>
>>>> 3. Files or programs from the share will not be available offline
>>>
>>> I guess my question is, why would you want offline folders enabled for
>>> your LAN-connected workstations at all? I disable it entirely. For
>>> laptop users, you might make a good case....but I've seen far too many
>>> people lose data due to offlline files shenanigans, and I disable
>>> offline files on the shares themselves now.
>>>>
>>>> I am using Option 1 right now, but wondered if it should be option 2.
>>>
>>> I wouldn't do that.
>>>
>>>> I am noticing the redirected Desktop is not putting things that are
>>>> deleted into the users Recycle Bin and I am wondering if it is
>>>> because of the share offline settings I have.
>>>
>>> Hmmm - no, I think that's normal. IIRC when you do redirection, there's
>>> a hidden "recycler" folder in the parent folder.... have you looked in
>>> the user's folders on the server?
>>>>
>>>> Please advise.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
 
Re: Roaming Profiles and Redirected folders

Your best bet is just to restrict the profile size, then deal with the
problems of people who are over quota, IMHO
Anthony,
http://www.airdesk.co.uk


"Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message
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> Anthony,
>
> I have not had many issues with it either. My biggest problem is what you
> and I talked about a week or so ago about the roaming profile. If you
> don't set a limit on it grows huge and the logon process takes forever. I
> need to still determine what folders in the Application Data folder to
> restrict. I don't want to restrict the App Data folder, because then if
> system crashes none of that logon info, email setup, favorites, etc. are
> there.
>
> -Scott
> "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message
> news:eYjN7Mu%23HHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> In my experience it works flawlessly, and is used for the reason you
>> give, but other people's experience may be different. You need it for
>> laptops anyway.
>> Anthony
>> http://www.airdesk.co.uk
>>
>>
>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message
>> news:uIwyV9t%23HHA.4184@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> The reason we enable offline shares for my desktop users is because what
>>> if a server goes down? If offline is enabled then the desktop user can
>>> continue to work until the server comes back online. That is my only
>>> thinking. Is that not the correct way to use it?
>>>
>>> I am open to suggestions.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>>> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in
>>> message news:O2r8ELt%23HHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Scott Micale <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote:
>>>>> We use roaming profiles and redirected folders. I want to know what
>>>>> is the right setting on the share for offline settings.
>>>>>
>>>>> Should it be:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Only the files and programs that users specify will be available
>>>>> offline.
>>>>> 2. All files and programs that users open from the share will be
>>>>> automatically available offline. Check box Optimized for performance.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Files or programs from the share will not be available offline
>>>>
>>>> I guess my question is, why would you want offline folders enabled for
>>>> your LAN-connected workstations at all? I disable it entirely. For
>>>> laptop users, you might make a good case....but I've seen far too many
>>>> people lose data due to offlline files shenanigans, and I disable
>>>> offline files on the shares themselves now.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am using Option 1 right now, but wondered if it should be option 2.
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't do that.
>>>>
>>>>> I am noticing the redirected Desktop is not putting things that are
>>>>> deleted into the users Recycle Bin and I am wondering if it is
>>>>> because of the share offline settings I have.
>>>>
>>>> Hmmm - no, I think that's normal. IIRC when you do redirection, there's
>>>> a hidden "recycler" folder in the parent folder.... have you looked in
>>>> the user's folders on the server?
>>>>>
>>>>> Please advise.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
 
Re: Roaming Profiles and Redirected folders

Scott Micale <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote:
> The reason we enable offline shares for my desktop users is because
> what if a server goes down?

At the risk of stating the obvious, every precaution should be taken to
ensure that this doesn't happen. Good hardware with as much redundancy built
in as possible. Servers shouldn't often go down. :)

How often do you have problems with this? You could use DFS or other forms
of replication if you like, too.

> If offline is enabled then the desktop
> user can continue to work until the server comes back online. That
> is my only thinking. Is that not the correct way to use it?

Yes, in theory, you're correct - that's how it's supposed to work..

I don't want users working on anything if there's something so catastrophic
going on with their file server, personally. If I have a problem so severe
that the server has crashed, I will not be confident that the changes will
sync back properly from the client machines once I get it restored. And if I
have to do more major work, such as a restore to another server, that
compounds the problem.

Your mileage may vary, but I won't touch offline files with a ten-pole, and
I'm not alone - the groups are full of people who have run into problems
with lost files, corrupted caches, issues when the source/server copy moves,
etc. The occasional convenience isn't worth the risk to me. Just my two
cents.


>
> I am open to suggestions.

>
>
> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in
> message news:O2r8ELt%23HHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Scott Micale <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote:
>>> We use roaming profiles and redirected folders. I want to know what
>>> is the right setting on the share for offline settings.
>>>
>>> Should it be:
>>>
>>> 1. Only the files and programs that users specify will be available
>>> offline.
>>> 2. All files and programs that users open from the share will be
>>> automatically available offline. Check box Optimized for
>>> performance. 3. Files or programs from the share will not be available
>>> offline
>>
>> I guess my question is, why would you want offline folders enabled
>> for your LAN-connected workstations at all? I disable it entirely.
>> For laptop users, you might make a good case....but I've seen far
>> too many people lose data due to offlline files shenanigans, and I
>> disable offline files on the shares themselves now.
>>>
>>> I am using Option 1 right now, but wondered if it should be option
>>> 2.
>>
>> I wouldn't do that.
>>
>>> I am noticing the redirected Desktop is not putting things that are
>>> deleted into the users Recycle Bin and I am wondering if it is
>>> because of the share offline settings I have.
>>
>> Hmmm - no, I think that's normal. IIRC when you do redirection,
>> there's a hidden "recycler" folder in the parent folder.... have you
>> looked in the user's folders on the server?
>>>
>>> Please advise.
>>>
>>> Thanks
 
Re: Roaming Profiles and Redirected folders

I don't have problems at all really. The nice thing about it is if I need
to do server maintenance or just reboot it I then don't need to call every
employee in the building and let them know the server is going down.

That's my only real reason for using offline files.

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OY82JV5%23HHA.5840@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Scott Micale <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote:
>> The reason we enable offline shares for my desktop users is because
>> what if a server goes down?
>
> At the risk of stating the obvious, every precaution should be taken to
> ensure that this doesn't happen. Good hardware with as much redundancy
> built in as possible. Servers shouldn't often go down. :)
>
> How often do you have problems with this? You could use DFS or other forms
> of replication if you like, too.
>
>> If offline is enabled then the desktop
>> user can continue to work until the server comes back online. That
>> is my only thinking. Is that not the correct way to use it?
>
> Yes, in theory, you're correct - that's how it's supposed to work..
>
> I don't want users working on anything if there's something so
> catastrophic going on with their file server, personally. If I have a
> problem so severe that the server has crashed, I will not be confident
> that the changes will sync back properly from the client machines once I
> get it restored. And if I have to do more major work, such as a restore to
> another server, that compounds the problem.
>
> Your mileage may vary, but I won't touch offline files with a ten-pole,
> and I'm not alone - the groups are full of people who have run into
> problems with lost files, corrupted caches, issues when the source/server
> copy moves, etc. The occasional convenience isn't worth the risk to me.
> Just my two cents.
>
>
>>
>> I am open to suggestions.
>
>>
>>
>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in
>> message news:O2r8ELt%23HHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Scott Micale <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote:
>>>> We use roaming profiles and redirected folders. I want to know what
>>>> is the right setting on the share for offline settings.
>>>>
>>>> Should it be:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Only the files and programs that users specify will be available
>>>> offline.
>>>> 2. All files and programs that users open from the share will be
>>>> automatically available offline. Check box Optimized for
>>>> performance. 3. Files or programs from the share will not be available
>>>> offline
>>>
>>> I guess my question is, why would you want offline folders enabled
>>> for your LAN-connected workstations at all? I disable it entirely.
>>> For laptop users, you might make a good case....but I've seen far
>>> too many people lose data due to offlline files shenanigans, and I
>>> disable offline files on the shares themselves now.
>>>>
>>>> I am using Option 1 right now, but wondered if it should be option
>>>> 2.
>>>
>>> I wouldn't do that.
>>>
>>>> I am noticing the redirected Desktop is not putting things that are
>>>> deleted into the users Recycle Bin and I am wondering if it is
>>>> because of the share offline settings I have.
>>>
>>> Hmmm - no, I think that's normal. IIRC when you do redirection,
>>> there's a hidden "recycler" folder in the parent folder.... have you
>>> looked in the user's folders on the server?
>>>>
>>>> Please advise.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>
>
>
 
Re: Roaming Profiles and Redirected folders

I don't have another server or hard drive space to do DFS, but I should
probably look into that.


"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OY82JV5%23HHA.5840@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Scott Micale <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote:
>> The reason we enable offline shares for my desktop users is because
>> what if a server goes down?
>
> At the risk of stating the obvious, every precaution should be taken to
> ensure that this doesn't happen. Good hardware with as much redundancy
> built in as possible. Servers shouldn't often go down. :)
>
> How often do you have problems with this? You could use DFS or other forms
> of replication if you like, too.
>
>> If offline is enabled then the desktop
>> user can continue to work until the server comes back online. That
>> is my only thinking. Is that not the correct way to use it?
>
> Yes, in theory, you're correct - that's how it's supposed to work..
>
> I don't want users working on anything if there's something so
> catastrophic going on with their file server, personally. If I have a
> problem so severe that the server has crashed, I will not be confident
> that the changes will sync back properly from the client machines once I
> get it restored. And if I have to do more major work, such as a restore to
> another server, that compounds the problem.
>
> Your mileage may vary, but I won't touch offline files with a ten-pole,
> and I'm not alone - the groups are full of people who have run into
> problems with lost files, corrupted caches, issues when the source/server
> copy moves, etc. The occasional convenience isn't worth the risk to me.
> Just my two cents.
>
>
>>
>> I am open to suggestions.
>
>>
>>
>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in
>> message news:O2r8ELt%23HHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Scott Micale <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote:
>>>> We use roaming profiles and redirected folders. I want to know what
>>>> is the right setting on the share for offline settings.
>>>>
>>>> Should it be:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Only the files and programs that users specify will be available
>>>> offline.
>>>> 2. All files and programs that users open from the share will be
>>>> automatically available offline. Check box Optimized for
>>>> performance. 3. Files or programs from the share will not be available
>>>> offline
>>>
>>> I guess my question is, why would you want offline folders enabled
>>> for your LAN-connected workstations at all? I disable it entirely.
>>> For laptop users, you might make a good case....but I've seen far
>>> too many people lose data due to offlline files shenanigans, and I
>>> disable offline files on the shares themselves now.
>>>>
>>>> I am using Option 1 right now, but wondered if it should be option
>>>> 2.
>>>
>>> I wouldn't do that.
>>>
>>>> I am noticing the redirected Desktop is not putting things that are
>>>> deleted into the users Recycle Bin and I am wondering if it is
>>>> because of the share offline settings I have.
>>>
>>> Hmmm - no, I think that's normal. IIRC when you do redirection,
>>> there's a hidden "recycler" folder in the parent folder.... have you
>>> looked in the user's folders on the server?
>>>>
>>>> Please advise.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>
>
>
 
Re: Roaming Profiles and Redirected folders

Scott Micale <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote:
> I don't have problems at all really. The nice thing about it is if I
> need to do server maintenance or just reboot it I then don't need to
> call every employee in the building and let them know the server is
> going down.
> That's my only real reason for using offline files.

Understood, but to me, the risks outweigh the benefits. I suggest you do
your server maintenance after hours.
>
> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in
> message news:OY82JV5%23HHA.5840@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Scott Micale <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote:
>>> The reason we enable offline shares for my desktop users is because
>>> what if a server goes down?
>>
>> At the risk of stating the obvious, every precaution should be taken
>> to ensure that this doesn't happen. Good hardware with as much
>> redundancy built in as possible. Servers shouldn't often go down. :)
>>
>> How often do you have problems with this? You could use DFS or other
>> forms of replication if you like, too.
>>
>>> If offline is enabled then the desktop
>>> user can continue to work until the server comes back online. That
>>> is my only thinking. Is that not the correct way to use it?
>>
>> Yes, in theory, you're correct - that's how it's supposed to work..
>>
>> I don't want users working on anything if there's something so
>> catastrophic going on with their file server, personally. If I have a
>> problem so severe that the server has crashed, I will not be
>> confident that the changes will sync back properly from the client
>> machines once I get it restored. And if I have to do more major
>> work, such as a restore to another server, that compounds the
>> problem. Your mileage may vary, but I won't touch offline files with a
>> ten-pole, and I'm not alone - the groups are full of people who have
>> run into problems with lost files, corrupted caches, issues when the
>> source/server copy moves, etc. The occasional convenience isn't
>> worth the risk to me. Just my two cents.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I am open to suggestions.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>>> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in
>>> message news:O2r8ELt%23HHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Scott Micale <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote:
>>>>> We use roaming profiles and redirected folders. I want to know
>>>>> what is the right setting on the share for offline settings.
>>>>>
>>>>> Should it be:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Only the files and programs that users specify will be
>>>>> available offline.
>>>>> 2. All files and programs that users open from the share will be
>>>>> automatically available offline. Check box Optimized for
>>>>> performance. 3. Files or programs from the share will not be
>>>>> available offline
>>>>
>>>> I guess my question is, why would you want offline folders enabled
>>>> for your LAN-connected workstations at all? I disable it entirely.
>>>> For laptop users, you might make a good case....but I've seen far
>>>> too many people lose data due to offlline files shenanigans, and I
>>>> disable offline files on the shares themselves now.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am using Option 1 right now, but wondered if it should be option
>>>>> 2.
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't do that.
>>>>
>>>>> I am noticing the redirected Desktop is not putting things that
>>>>> are deleted into the users Recycle Bin and I am wondering if it is
>>>>> because of the share offline settings I have.
>>>>
>>>> Hmmm - no, I think that's normal. IIRC when you do redirection,
>>>> there's a hidden "recycler" folder in the parent folder.... have
>>>> you looked in the user's folders on the server?
>>>>>
>>>>> Please advise.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
 
Re: Roaming Profiles and Redirected folders

Then I have to work more hours, who wants to do that?? :-)


"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Scott Micale <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote:
>> I don't have problems at all really. The nice thing about it is if I
>> need to do server maintenance or just reboot it I then don't need to
>> call every employee in the building and let them know the server is
>> going down.
>> That's my only real reason for using offline files.
>
> Understood, but to me, the risks outweigh the benefits. I suggest you do
> your server maintenance after hours.
>>
>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in
>> message news:OY82JV5%23HHA.5840@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Scott Micale <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote:
>>>> The reason we enable offline shares for my desktop users is because
>>>> what if a server goes down?
>>>
>>> At the risk of stating the obvious, every precaution should be taken
>>> to ensure that this doesn't happen. Good hardware with as much
>>> redundancy built in as possible. Servers shouldn't often go down. :)
>>>
>>> How often do you have problems with this? You could use DFS or other
>>> forms of replication if you like, too.
>>>
>>>> If offline is enabled then the desktop
>>>> user can continue to work until the server comes back online. That
>>>> is my only thinking. Is that not the correct way to use it?
>>>
>>> Yes, in theory, you're correct - that's how it's supposed to work..
>>>
>>> I don't want users working on anything if there's something so
>>> catastrophic going on with their file server, personally. If I have a
>>> problem so severe that the server has crashed, I will not be
>>> confident that the changes will sync back properly from the client
>>> machines once I get it restored. And if I have to do more major
>>> work, such as a restore to another server, that compounds the
>>> problem. Your mileage may vary, but I won't touch offline files with a
>>> ten-pole, and I'm not alone - the groups are full of people who have
>>> run into problems with lost files, corrupted caches, issues when the
>>> source/server copy moves, etc. The occasional convenience isn't
>>> worth the risk to me. Just my two cents.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am open to suggestions.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>>>> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in
>>>> message news:O2r8ELt%23HHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Scott Micale <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote:
>>>>>> We use roaming profiles and redirected folders. I want to know
>>>>>> what is the right setting on the share for offline settings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Should it be:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Only the files and programs that users specify will be
>>>>>> available offline.
>>>>>> 2. All files and programs that users open from the share will be
>>>>>> automatically available offline. Check box Optimized for
>>>>>> performance. 3. Files or programs from the share will not be
>>>>>> available offline
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess my question is, why would you want offline folders enabled
>>>>> for your LAN-connected workstations at all? I disable it entirely.
>>>>> For laptop users, you might make a good case....but I've seen far
>>>>> too many people lose data due to offlline files shenanigans, and I
>>>>> disable offline files on the shares themselves now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am using Option 1 right now, but wondered if it should be option
>>>>>> 2.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wouldn't do that.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am noticing the redirected Desktop is not putting things that
>>>>>> are deleted into the users Recycle Bin and I am wondering if it is
>>>>>> because of the share offline settings I have.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmmm - no, I think that's normal. IIRC when you do redirection,
>>>>> there's a hidden "recycler" folder in the parent folder.... have
>>>>> you looked in the user's folders on the server?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please advise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>
>
>
 
Re: Roaming Profiles and Redirected folders

Scott Micale <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote:
> Then I have to work more hours, who wants to do that?? :-)

You're right; I can see that now. You should regularly reboot all your
servers in the middle of the day, absolutely. What could possibly go wrong?

>
>
> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in
> message news:%23mw3BM8%23HHA.396@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Scott Micale <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote:
>>> I don't have problems at all really. The nice thing about it is if
>>> I need to do server maintenance or just reboot it I then don't need
>>> to call every employee in the building and let them know the server
>>> is going down.
>>> That's my only real reason for using offline files.
>>
>> Understood, but to me, the risks outweigh the benefits. I suggest
>> you do your server maintenance after hours.
>>>
>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>>> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in
>>> message news:OY82JV5%23HHA.5840@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Scott Micale <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote:
>>>>> The reason we enable offline shares for my desktop users is
>>>>> because what if a server goes down?
>>>>
>>>> At the risk of stating the obvious, every precaution should be
>>>> taken to ensure that this doesn't happen. Good hardware with as
>>>> much redundancy built in as possible. Servers shouldn't often go
>>>> down. :) How often do you have problems with this? You could use DFS or
>>>> other forms of replication if you like, too.
>>>>
>>>>> If offline is enabled then the desktop
>>>>> user can continue to work until the server comes back online. That is
>>>>> my only thinking. Is that not the correct way to use it?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, in theory, you're correct - that's how it's supposed to work..
>>>>
>>>> I don't want users working on anything if there's something so
>>>> catastrophic going on with their file server, personally. If I
>>>> have a problem so severe that the server has crashed, I will not be
>>>> confident that the changes will sync back properly from the client
>>>> machines once I get it restored. And if I have to do more major
>>>> work, such as a restore to another server, that compounds the
>>>> problem. Your mileage may vary, but I won't touch offline files
>>>> with a ten-pole, and I'm not alone - the groups are full of people
>>>> who have run into problems with lost files, corrupted caches,
>>>> issues when the source/server copy moves, etc. The occasional
>>>> convenience isn't worth the risk to me. Just my two cents.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am open to suggestions.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>>>>> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote
>>>>> in message news:O2r8ELt%23HHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Scott Micale <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote:
>>>>>>> We use roaming profiles and redirected folders. I want to know
>>>>>>> what is the right setting on the share for offline settings.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Should it be:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Only the files and programs that users specify will be
>>>>>>> available offline.
>>>>>>> 2. All files and programs that users open from the share will be
>>>>>>> automatically available offline. Check box Optimized for
>>>>>>> performance. 3. Files or programs from the share will not be
>>>>>>> available offline
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess my question is, why would you want offline folders
>>>>>> enabled for your LAN-connected workstations at all? I disable it
>>>>>> entirely. For laptop users, you might make a good case....but
>>>>>> I've seen far too many people lose data due to offlline files
>>>>>> shenanigans, and I disable offline files on the shares
>>>>>> themselves now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am using Option 1 right now, but wondered if it should be
>>>>>>> option 2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wouldn't do that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am noticing the redirected Desktop is not putting things that
>>>>>>> are deleted into the users Recycle Bin and I am wondering if it
>>>>>>> is because of the share offline settings I have.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmmm - no, I think that's normal. IIRC when you do redirection,
>>>>>> there's a hidden "recycler" folder in the parent folder.... have
>>>>>> you looked in the user's folders on the server?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please advise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
 
Re: Roaming Profiles and Redirected folders

LOL!!!

Love the humor!!


"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OEwP6yG$HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Scott Micale <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote:
>> Then I have to work more hours, who wants to do that?? :-)
>
> You're right; I can see that now. You should regularly reboot all your
> servers in the middle of the day, absolutely. What could possibly go
> wrong?
>
>>
>>
>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in
>> message news:%23mw3BM8%23HHA.396@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Scott Micale <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote:
>>>> I don't have problems at all really. The nice thing about it is if
>>>> I need to do server maintenance or just reboot it I then don't need
>>>> to call every employee in the building and let them know the server
>>>> is going down.
>>>> That's my only real reason for using offline files.
>>>
>>> Understood, but to me, the risks outweigh the benefits. I suggest
>>> you do your server maintenance after hours.
>>>>
>>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>>>> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in
>>>> message news:OY82JV5%23HHA.5840@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Scott Micale <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote:
>>>>>> The reason we enable offline shares for my desktop users is
>>>>>> because what if a server goes down?
>>>>>
>>>>> At the risk of stating the obvious, every precaution should be
>>>>> taken to ensure that this doesn't happen. Good hardware with as
>>>>> much redundancy built in as possible. Servers shouldn't often go
>>>>> down. :) How often do you have problems with this? You could use DFS
>>>>> or
>>>>> other forms of replication if you like, too.
>>>>>
>>>>>> If offline is enabled then the desktop
>>>>>> user can continue to work until the server comes back online. That is
>>>>>> my only thinking. Is that not the correct way to use it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, in theory, you're correct - that's how it's supposed to work..
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't want users working on anything if there's something so
>>>>> catastrophic going on with their file server, personally. If I
>>>>> have a problem so severe that the server has crashed, I will not be
>>>>> confident that the changes will sync back properly from the client
>>>>> machines once I get it restored. And if I have to do more major
>>>>> work, such as a restore to another server, that compounds the
>>>>> problem. Your mileage may vary, but I won't touch offline files
>>>>> with a ten-pole, and I'm not alone - the groups are full of people
>>>>> who have run into problems with lost files, corrupted caches,
>>>>> issues when the source/server copy moves, etc. The occasional
>>>>> convenience isn't worth the risk to me. Just my two cents.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am open to suggestions.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>>>>>> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote
>>>>>> in message news:O2r8ELt%23HHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Scott Micale <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote:
>>>>>>>> We use roaming profiles and redirected folders. I want to know
>>>>>>>> what is the right setting on the share for offline settings.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Should it be:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. Only the files and programs that users specify will be
>>>>>>>> available offline.
>>>>>>>> 2. All files and programs that users open from the share will be
>>>>>>>> automatically available offline. Check box Optimized for
>>>>>>>> performance. 3. Files or programs from the share will not be
>>>>>>>> available offline
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess my question is, why would you want offline folders
>>>>>>> enabled for your LAN-connected workstations at all? I disable it
>>>>>>> entirely. For laptop users, you might make a good case....but
>>>>>>> I've seen far too many people lose data due to offlline files
>>>>>>> shenanigans, and I disable offline files on the shares
>>>>>>> themselves now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am using Option 1 right now, but wondered if it should be
>>>>>>>> option 2.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wouldn't do that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am noticing the redirected Desktop is not putting things that
>>>>>>>> are deleted into the users Recycle Bin and I am wondering if it
>>>>>>>> is because of the share offline settings I have.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmmm - no, I think that's normal. IIRC when you do redirection,
>>>>>>> there's a hidden "recycler" folder in the parent folder.... have
>>>>>>> you looked in the user's folders on the server?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please advise.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>
>
>
 
Re: Roaming Profiles and Redirected folders

Scott Micale <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote:
> LOL!!!
>
> Love the humor!!

<impassive expression>

What humor?
 
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