Java Help !!!

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hi .. just need some info

i am learning java for the first time can some one tell me if i have to install some software program or i just type code in a plain textfile..

thanks sonia:)
 
hi 10x loads i installed it.. is there something else i need to install what i have showing on programs in the start menu is java web start..

should that be enough to start coding with java ... thanks in advance and looking forward in hearing from you...;)
 
Is there an IDE of any real quality.

In school we learned on this really awful IDE which really turned me off of Java. After VB6, going to something like notepad with a list of all the files in your project and compilation options... well it gave me no reason to really consider Java.

Now if you could create real java in the visual studio IDE, complete with intellisense... I might even try to learn more java.

Im not talking about J# or having .Net dependances, still 100% java, but in a full featured easy to use IDE.

Id heard that other companies could create packages to package their language for the VS IDE, but I wasnt sure if that was their own raw language or their port of it to .Net.

You can say a lot of bad about MS, but I think they really have a good, friendly interface and actual helpful documentation with their visual studio projects. The .Net is just a better step because you can have every language in the same environment. I remember with VS6, trying VC++ and everything in the IDE was different.
 
JCreator looks really good. Looks very similar to the .NET IDE. Costs $70, but if you are serious about Java programming (or any language), good tools are essential.
 
I think the most important help in an IDE might even be error checking.

The version I was learning with in school really had none. When you chose to build it, it would give you line numbers of the errors. Now if it was the instance of a class you created... well telling you line 88 has an error only tells you that you have an error somewere in your class. It got old fast with how much the IDE hurt my eyes. keywords were variations of dark blue, dark red and dark purple, which you would often miss because they were so close to black. Having to build your project after every few lines got old as it took longer to build a 1 page application than it does for VS to build a 50 page, 15 class, 20 componant application.

Actually, thats the prime motivation I have to never learn C is because Im spoiled by VS IDE. Maybe C++.Net, but thats just a little confusing as to wether you use the .net framework or not for that.
 
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