Sigh. Daemon Tools goes commercial or Adware only

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Re: Sigh. Daemon Tools goes commercial or Adware only

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:21:33 -0700, "Charlie Russel - MVP"
<charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:

>No way will they EVER see a dime from me,

Block it from accessing the outside world?

j
 
Re: Sigh. Daemon Tools goes commercial or Adware only

I don't have a problem with programs that are commercial. But "free"
programs that suddenly add in special search bars to your browser and that
pump ads to your machine are simply malware. When you can easily opt out,
_and it's clear up front how to do that_, I can just barely tolerate it.
When the malware is mandatory? Sorry, that crosses the line.

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"Jud Hendrix" <none@none.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:21:33 -0700, "Charlie Russel - MVP"
> <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
>
>>No way will they EVER see a dime from me,
>
> Block it from accessing the outside world?
>
> j
 
Re: Sigh. Daemon Tools goes commercial or Adware only

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 07:00:54 -0700, "Charlie Russel - MVP"
<charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:

>When the malware is mandatory? Sorry, that crosses the line.

It does. But unless you have problems, there would be no reason that you
have to upgrade to the newer versions with "forced" adware. I reckon we
will soon see other CD/DVD-emulators pop-up, made under GPL, by the people
who hate this action by the DT-people.

jud
 
Re: Sigh. Daemon Tools goes commercial or Adware only

Jud:
Here's a good place to start the search of another alternative.
http://www.thefreecountry.com/utilities/dvdcdemulators.shtml
Carlos

"Jud Hendrix" wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 07:00:54 -0700, "Charlie Russel - MVP"
> <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
>
> >When the malware is mandatory? Sorry, that crosses the line.
>
> It does. But unless you have problems, there would be no reason that you
> have to upgrade to the newer versions with "forced" adware. I reckon we
> will soon see other CD/DVD-emulators pop-up, made under GPL, by the people
> who hate this action by the DT-people.
>
> jud
>
 
Re: Sigh. Daemon Tools goes commercial or Adware only

Here's a freeware one:
http://www.magiciso.com/tutorials/miso-magicdisc-overview.htm
with Vista x64 support
http://www.magiciso.com/tutorials/miso-magicdisc-overview.htm
http://www.magicdisc.net/setup_magicdisc79.exe
Carlos

"Jud Hendrix" wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 07:00:54 -0700, "Charlie Russel - MVP"
> <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
>
> >When the malware is mandatory? Sorry, that crosses the line.
>
> It does. But unless you have problems, there would be no reason that you
> have to upgrade to the newer versions with "forced" adware. I reckon we
> will soon see other CD/DVD-emulators pop-up, made under GPL, by the people
> who hate this action by the DT-people.
>
> jud
>
 
Re: Sigh. Daemon Tools goes commercial or Adware only

> The first sign of evil was the "search bar" that was automatically
> included if you didn't pay attention. But now they've made it mandatory
> for the Basic (free) version. No way will they EVER see a dime from me,
> and I'll now have to find an alternative to this useful utility that ran
> quite well in x64.

I've just gone to the download page, and still see 4.10 (which doesn't force
it).

?!
 
Re: Sigh. Daemon Tools goes commercial or Adware only

I have a paid copy of MagicISO. Unfortunately, it's pretty flakey on 64bit.
Not sure why, or what the issue is, but I've pretty much stopped using it.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Here's a freeware one:
> http://www.magiciso.com/tutorials/miso-magicdisc-overview.htm
> with Vista x64 support
> http://www.magiciso.com/tutorials/miso-magicdisc-overview.htm
> http://www.magicdisc.net/setup_magicdisc79.exe
> Carlos
>
> "Jud Hendrix" wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 07:00:54 -0700, "Charlie Russel - MVP"
>> <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
>>
>> >When the malware is mandatory? Sorry, that crosses the line.
>>
>> It does. But unless you have problems, there would be no reason that you
>> have to upgrade to the newer versions with "forced" adware. I reckon we
>> will soon see other CD/DVD-emulators pop-up, made under GPL, by the
>> people
>> who hate this action by the DT-people.
>>
>> jud
>>
 
Re: Sigh. Daemon Tools goes commercial or Adware only

4.10 Lite is on the DL page. The last version that doesn't force it for the
full product is 4.09.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Homer J. Simpson" <root@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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>> The first sign of evil was the "search bar" that was automatically
>> included if you didn't pay attention. But now they've made it mandatory
>> for the Basic (free) version. No way will they EVER see a dime from me,
>> and I'll now have to find an alternative to this useful utility that ran
>> quite well in x64.
>
> I've just gone to the download page, and still see 4.10 (which doesn't
> force it).
>
> ?!
>
 
Re: Sigh. Daemon Tools goes commercial or Adware only

There are some others, just none I liked nearly as much as Daemon. Many of
the others are, at best, flakey. I _just_ need the ability to mount DVD/CD
ISOs as drive letters. Preferably with a graphical interface, since I'm lazy
and can't be bothered with learning a command line for this, even though I
do command line for many, many things.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Jud Hendrix" <none@none.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 07:00:54 -0700, "Charlie Russel - MVP"
> <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
>
>>When the malware is mandatory? Sorry, that crosses the line.
>
> It does. But unless you have problems, there would be no reason that you
> have to upgrade to the newer versions with "forced" adware. I reckon we
> will soon see other CD/DVD-emulators pop-up, made under GPL, by the people
> who hate this action by the DT-people.
>
> jud
 
Re: Sigh. Daemon Tools goes commercial or Adware only

> 4.10 Lite is on the DL page. The last version that doesn't force it for
> the full product is 4.09.

From http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/download.php?mode=ViewCategory&catid=5,
under "Daemon Tools Lite 4.10 x86":

"This version has an option to install client-side software applications
(DAEMON Tools Searchbar and Save Now) that [...]"

Note "option".

I've just downloaded and installed it in a clean VM on VirtualPC. At the
Select Components screen in the install wizard, I've removed the 'Daemon
Tools Search Bar' checkbox and proceeded as usual.

For good measure, I installed Ad-Aware, let it update itself, and did a
scan. So far, I'm not seeing any more evidence of crapware than in any
previous version...
 
Re: Sigh. Daemon Tools goes commercial or Adware only

Hmmm. The feature set for Lite looks like significantly less than previous
free versions. But if it at least works, and doesn't require it, that's
good. But honestly, they've reached my gag point. I'm actively looking for
alternatives.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Homer J. Simpson" <root@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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>> 4.10 Lite is on the DL page. The last version that doesn't force it for
>> the full product is 4.09.
>
> From
> http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/download.php?mode=ViewCategory&catid=5,
> under "Daemon Tools Lite 4.10 x86":
>
> "This version has an option to install client-side software applications
> (DAEMON Tools Searchbar and Save Now) that [...]"
>
> Note "option".
>
> I've just downloaded and installed it in a clean VM on VirtualPC. At the
> Select Components screen in the install wizard, I've removed the 'Daemon
> Tools Search Bar' checkbox and proceeded as usual.
>
> For good measure, I installed Ad-Aware, let it update itself, and did a
> scan. So far, I'm not seeing any more evidence of crapware than in any
> previous version...
>
 
Re: Sigh. Daemon Tools goes commercial or Adware only

> Hmmm. The feature set for Lite looks like significantly less than previous
> free versions. But if it at least works, and doesn't require it, that's
> good. But honestly, they've reached my gag point. I'm actively looking for
> alternatives.

"Feature set".

Well, it mounts ISOs, I can tell it not to install crap, it's free and it
doesn't make my machine crash. It still fits the bill for me.

But you're right, the nanosecond it forces me to install spyware, it'll get
purged and it won't get a second chance.
 
Re: Sigh. Daemon Tools goes commercial or Adware only

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
news:FBADC606-DD95-4AB2-B74E-568ABEFB472C@microsoft.com:

> Hmmm. The feature set for Lite looks like significantly less than
> previous free versions. But if it at least works, and doesn't require
> it, that's good. But honestly, they've reached my gag point. I'm
> actively looking for alternatives.
>

I use UltraIso. It's not free and is a full featured program for editing
and creating iso files. It has an iso mounting shell that is not at all
flakey. The Daemon Tools program was especially suited for use with
protected game CDs. UltraIso does not do protection circumvention.

http://www.ezbsystems.com/ultraiso/


Ken
 
Re: Sigh. Daemon Tools goes commercial or Adware only

thanks

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"Ken" <mymail@mail.com> wrote in message
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> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
> news:FBADC606-DD95-4AB2-B74E-568ABEFB472C@microsoft.com:
>
>> Hmmm. The feature set for Lite looks like significantly less than
>> previous free versions. But if it at least works, and doesn't require
>> it, that's good. But honestly, they've reached my gag point. I'm
>> actively looking for alternatives.
>>
>
> I use UltraIso. It's not free and is a full featured program for editing
> and creating iso files. It has an iso mounting shell that is not at all
> flakey. The Daemon Tools program was especially suited for use with
> protected game CDs. UltraIso does not do protection circumvention.
>
> http://www.ezbsystems.com/ultraiso/
>
>
> Ken
 
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