Java Help Please

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What a mess that sun life site is. In any event, I do have the latest
java 6 update 2 installed as well as J2SE Runtime Environment 5 update
12.

I had java working with xp64 before but have had top reimage and now
no luck. For example, logitech mouseware does not show the mouse. When
I drag the dialog box around, the mouse magically appears...I also
have another revenue canada applet which will work, but requires alt
tabbing....click something, nothing happens, alt tab back and forth,
then you see the effect of your previous click....

this is all very annoying. checking my image in my previous install, I
had these apps working perfectly with java virtual machine 5 update 5,
and java 6 update 1. It now does not work well with JVM 5 update 12
and Java 6 update 2...?????

what gives with this ? do I need both installed ? am I missing
something ? why is the sun site so convoluted ??

any input appreciated..

Best Regards,
Randall
 
Re: Java Help Please

What happens when you go back to Java 6 update 1? if it works ok and not
with Java 6 update 2 then that's a problem you should take up with Sun


"Rabid man" <rclarke@idirect.com> wrote in message
news:1190602439.645935.6010@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> What a mess that sun life site is. In any event, I do have the latest
> java 6 update 2 installed as well as J2SE Runtime Environment 5 update
> 12.
>
> I had java working with xp64 before but have had top reimage and now
> no luck. For example, logitech mouseware does not show the mouse. When
> I drag the dialog box around, the mouse magically appears...I also
> have another revenue canada applet which will work, but requires alt
> tabbing....click something, nothing happens, alt tab back and forth,
> then you see the effect of your previous click....
>
> this is all very annoying. checking my image in my previous install, I
> had these apps working perfectly with java virtual machine 5 update 5,
> and java 6 update 1. It now does not work well with JVM 5 update 12
> and Java 6 update 2...?????
>
> what gives with this ? do I need both installed ? am I missing
> something ? why is the sun site so convoluted ??
>
> any input appreciated..
>
> Best Regards,
> Randall
>
 
RE: Java Help Please

Rabid man:
You only need one JRE installed in your system.
I just use the latest JRE6 u2 and have no problems.
Also take into account that installing a newer version doesn't uninstall the
previous one.
You have to do it manually.
Carlos

"Rabid man" wrote:

> What a mess that sun life site is. In any event, I do have the latest
> java 6 update 2 installed as well as J2SE Runtime Environment 5 update
> 12.
>
> I had java working with xp64 before but have had top reimage and now
> no luck. For example, logitech mouseware does not show the mouse. When
> I drag the dialog box around, the mouse magically appears...I also
> have another revenue canada applet which will work, but requires alt
> tabbing....click something, nothing happens, alt tab back and forth,
> then you see the effect of your previous click....
>
> this is all very annoying. checking my image in my previous install, I
> had these apps working perfectly with java virtual machine 5 update 5,
> and java 6 update 1. It now does not work well with JVM 5 update 12
> and Java 6 update 2...?????
>
> what gives with this ? do I need both installed ? am I missing
> something ? why is the sun site so convoluted ??
>
> any input appreciated..
>
> Best Regards,
> Randall
>
>
 
Re: Java Help Please

appreciate the responses...
so basically Java and JRE are the same with different names correct ?
So I should just have 1 version running and uninstall the others...
What is the recommendation, which is better ?

of course I searched for the older versions to try to mimic what I had
before but couldn't find them...

is it better to try Java update 1 or JRE 5 update 5 ? I had both
these installed previous and it
worked...

what a confusing joke this is, must be a bunch of former MS employees
at SUN
It was a real problem to get it to work before and that continues
now...

so bottom line is, 1 java install only, should it be JRE or Java, and
if it doesn't work, uninstall
and try other versions 1 at a time ??

cheers

On Sep 24, 6:20 am, Carlos <Car...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> Rabid man:
> You only need one JRE installed in your system.
> I just use the latest JRE6 u2 and have no problems.
> Also take into account that installing a newer version doesn't uninstall the
> previous one.
> You have to do it manually.
> Carlos
>
> "Rabid man" wrote:
> > What a mess that sun life site is. In any event, I do have the latest
> > java 6 update 2 installed as well as J2SE Runtime Environment 5 update
> > 12.
>
> > I had java working with xp64 before but have had top reimage and now
> > no luck. For example, logitech mouseware does not show the mouse. When
> > I drag the dialog box around, the mouse magically appears...I also
> > have another revenue canada applet which will work, but requires alt
> > tabbing....click something, nothing happens, alt tab back and forth,
> > then you see the effect of your previous click....
>
> > this is all very annoying. checking my image in my previous install, I
> > had these apps working perfectly with java virtual machine 5 update 5,
> > and java 6 update 1. It now does not work well with JVM 5 update 12
> > and Java 6 update 2...?????
>
> > what gives with this ? do I need both installed ? am I missing
> > something ? why is the sun site so convoluted ??
>
> > any input appreciated..
>
> > Best Regards,
> > Randall
 
Re: Java Help Please

Rabid man:
Go for the latest JRE (Java Runtime Environment) 6 update 2.
It is the one that is more compatible with Vista.
The required file is "jre-6u2-windows-i586-p.exe"
The confusing part is that Sun names Java 6 also as 1.6
It doesn't matter whether you have an AMD or Pentium class processor because
it is 32-bit Java.
Carlos

"Rabid man" wrote:

> appreciate the responses...
> so basically Java and JRE are the same with different names correct ?
> So I should just have 1 version running and uninstall the others...
> What is the recommendation, which is better ?
>
> of course I searched for the older versions to try to mimic what I had
> before but couldn't find them...
>
> is it better to try Java update 1 or JRE 5 update 5 ? I had both
> these installed previous and it
> worked...
>
> what a confusing joke this is, must be a bunch of former MS employees
> at SUN
> It was a real problem to get it to work before and that continues
> now...
>
> so bottom line is, 1 java install only, should it be JRE or Java, and
> if it doesn't work, uninstall
> and try other versions 1 at a time ??
>
> cheers
>
> On Sep 24, 6:20 am, Carlos <Car...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > Rabid man:
> > You only need one JRE installed in your system.
> > I just use the latest JRE6 u2 and have no problems.
> > Also take into account that installing a newer version doesn't uninstall the
> > previous one.
> > You have to do it manually.
> > Carlos
> >
> > "Rabid man" wrote:
> > > What a mess that sun life site is. In any event, I do have the latest
> > > java 6 update 2 installed as well as J2SE Runtime Environment 5 update
> > > 12.
> >
> > > I had java working with xp64 before but have had top reimage and now
> > > no luck. For example, logitech mouseware does not show the mouse. When
> > > I drag the dialog box around, the mouse magically appears...I also
> > > have another revenue canada applet which will work, but requires alt
> > > tabbing....click something, nothing happens, alt tab back and forth,
> > > then you see the effect of your previous click....
> >
> > > this is all very annoying. checking my image in my previous install, I
> > > had these apps working perfectly with java virtual machine 5 update 5,
> > > and java 6 update 1. It now does not work well with JVM 5 update 12
> > > and Java 6 update 2...?????
> >
> > > what gives with this ? do I need both installed ? am I missing
> > > something ? why is the sun site so convoluted ??
> >
> > > any input appreciated..
> >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Randall
>
>
>
 
Re: Java Help Please

okay

spent 2 hours on this with no luck...both programs do not work
properly
Spent some time adjusting compatibility modes, 1 program will work if
I disable visual themes, run at 256 and in XP mode.
Of course this garbles my display which is not what I'm after

As I found older versions of Java, I mimicked the install where it
worked to no avail

Bottom line, Java doesn't work reliably in xp64

thanks to all who offered advice

maybe will waste another evening on this soon

On Sep 25, 6:24 am, Carlos <Car...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> Rabid man:
> Go for the latest JRE (Java Runtime Environment) 6 update 2.
> It is the one that is more compatible with Vista.
> The required file is "jre-6u2-windows-i586-p.exe"
> The confusing part is that Sun names Java 6 also as 1.6
> It doesn't matter whether you have an AMD or Pentium class processor because
> it is 32-bit Java.
> Carlos
>
> "Rabid man" wrote:
> > appreciate the responses...
> > so basically Java and JRE are the same with different names correct ?
> > So I should just have 1 version running and uninstall the others...
> > What is the recommendation, which is better ?
>
> > of course I searched for the older versions to try to mimic what I had
> > before but couldn't find them...
>
> > is it better to try Java update 1 or JRE 5 update 5 ? I had both
> > these installed previous and it
> > worked...
>
> > what a confusing joke this is, must be a bunch of former MS employees
> > at SUN
> > It was a real problem to get it to work before and that continues
> > now...
>
> > so bottom line is, 1 java install only, should it be JRE or Java, and
> > if it doesn't work, uninstall
> > and try other versions 1 at a time ??
>
> > cheers
>
> > On Sep 24, 6:20 am, Carlos <Car...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > Rabid man:
> > > You only need one JRE installed in your system.
> > > I just use the latest JRE6 u2 and have no problems.
> > > Also take into account that installing a newer version doesn't uninstall the
> > > previous one.
> > > You have to do it manually.
> > > Carlos
>
> > > "Rabid man" wrote:
> > > > What a mess that sun life site is. In any event, I do have the latest
> > > > java 6 update 2 installed as well as J2SE Runtime Environment 5 update
> > > > 12.
>
> > > > I had java working with xp64 before but have had top reimage and now
> > > > no luck. For example, logitech mouseware does not show the mouse. When
> > > > I drag the dialog box around, the mouse magically appears...I also
> > > > have another revenue canada applet which will work, but requires alt
> > > > tabbing....click something, nothing happens, alt tab back and forth,
> > > > then you see the effect of your previous click....
>
> > > > this is all very annoying. checking my image in my previous install, I
> > > > had these apps working perfectly with java virtual machine 5 update 5,
> > > > and java 6 update 1. It now does not work well with JVM 5 update 12
> > > > and Java 6 update 2...?????
>
> > > > what gives with this ? do I need both installed ? am I missing
> > > > something ? why is the sun site so convoluted ??
>
> > > > any input appreciated..
>
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > Randall
 
Re: Java Help Please

Rabid man:
Reading again your first post I guess that there must be something else than
Java related issues in your PC.
Anyway, here's a page where you can test Java functionality.
http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
Best of luck.
Carlos

"Rabid man" wrote:

> okay
>
> spent 2 hours on this with no luck...both programs do not work
> properly
> Spent some time adjusting compatibility modes, 1 program will work if
> I disable visual themes, run at 256 and in XP mode.
> Of course this garbles my display which is not what I'm after
>
> As I found older versions of Java, I mimicked the install where it
> worked to no avail
>
> Bottom line, Java doesn't work reliably in xp64
>
> thanks to all who offered advice
>
> maybe will waste another evening on this soon
>
> On Sep 25, 6:24 am, Carlos <Car...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > Rabid man:
> > Go for the latest JRE (Java Runtime Environment) 6 update 2.
> > It is the one that is more compatible with Vista.
> > The required file is "jre-6u2-windows-i586-p.exe"
> > The confusing part is that Sun names Java 6 also as 1.6
> > It doesn't matter whether you have an AMD or Pentium class processor because
> > it is 32-bit Java.
> > Carlos
> >
> > "Rabid man" wrote:
> > > appreciate the responses...
> > > so basically Java and JRE are the same with different names correct ?
> > > So I should just have 1 version running and uninstall the others...
> > > What is the recommendation, which is better ?
> >
> > > of course I searched for the older versions to try to mimic what I had
> > > before but couldn't find them...
> >
> > > is it better to try Java update 1 or JRE 5 update 5 ? I had both
> > > these installed previous and it
> > > worked...
> >
> > > what a confusing joke this is, must be a bunch of former MS employees
> > > at SUN
> > > It was a real problem to get it to work before and that continues
> > > now...
> >
> > > so bottom line is, 1 java install only, should it be JRE or Java, and
> > > if it doesn't work, uninstall
> > > and try other versions 1 at a time ??
> >
> > > cheers
> >
> > > On Sep 24, 6:20 am, Carlos <Car...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > > Rabid man:
> > > > You only need one JRE installed in your system.
> > > > I just use the latest JRE6 u2 and have no problems.
> > > > Also take into account that installing a newer version doesn't uninstall the
> > > > previous one.
> > > > You have to do it manually.
> > > > Carlos
> >
> > > > "Rabid man" wrote:
> > > > > What a mess that sun life site is. In any event, I do have the latest
> > > > > java 6 update 2 installed as well as J2SE Runtime Environment 5 update
> > > > > 12.
> >
> > > > > I had java working with xp64 before but have had top reimage and now
> > > > > no luck. For example, logitech mouseware does not show the mouse. When
> > > > > I drag the dialog box around, the mouse magically appears...I also
> > > > > have another revenue canada applet which will work, but requires alt
> > > > > tabbing....click something, nothing happens, alt tab back and forth,
> > > > > then you see the effect of your previous click....
> >
> > > > > this is all very annoying. checking my image in my previous install, I
> > > > > had these apps working perfectly with java virtual machine 5 update 5,
> > > > > and java 6 update 1. It now does not work well with JVM 5 update 12
> > > > > and Java 6 update 2...?????
> >
> > > > > what gives with this ? do I need both installed ? am I missing
> > > > > something ? why is the sun site so convoluted ??
> >
> > > > > any input appreciated..
> >
> > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > Randall
>
>
>
 
Re: Java Help Please

Hi
Okay, something really weird...
Did the validation thing - fine

I discovered that one program actually works properly, but only on my
second spanned monitor !??!?
Logitech mouseware continues to not display the mouse in the setting
until I drag the window off and back on the screen...
It does not work on the second monitor

o well, its workable for now so that is good enough I suppose

thanks for all the support and help

On Sep 26, 7:22 am, Carlos <Car...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> Rabid man:
> Reading again your first post I guess that there must be something else than
> Java related issues in your PC.
> Anyway, here's a page where you can test Java functionality.http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
> Best of luck.
> Carlos
>
> "Rabid man" wrote:
> > okay
>
> > spent 2 hours on this with no luck...both programs do not work
> > properly
> > Spent some time adjusting compatibility modes, 1 program will work if
> > I disable visual themes, run at 256 and in XP mode.
> > Of course this garbles my display which is not what I'm after
>
> > As I found older versions of Java, I mimicked the install where it
> > worked to no avail
>
> > Bottom line, Java doesn't work reliably in xp64
>
> > thanks to all who offered advice
>
> > maybe will waste another evening on this soon
>
> > On Sep 25, 6:24 am, Carlos <Car...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > Rabid man:
> > > Go for the latest JRE (Java Runtime Environment) 6 update 2.
> > > It is the one that is more compatible with Vista.
> > > The required file is "jre-6u2-windows-i586-p.exe"
> > > The confusing part is that Sun names Java 6 also as 1.6
> > > It doesn't matter whether you have an AMD or Pentium class processor because
> > > it is 32-bit Java.
> > > Carlos
>
> > > "Rabid man" wrote:
> > > > appreciate the responses...
> > > > so basically Java and JRE are the same with different names correct ?
> > > > So I should just have 1 version running and uninstall the others...
> > > > What is the recommendation, which is better ?
>
> > > > of course I searched for the older versions to try to mimic what I had
> > > > before but couldn't find them...
>
> > > > is it better to try Java update 1 or JRE 5 update 5 ? I had both
> > > > these installed previous and it
> > > > worked...
>
> > > > what a confusing joke this is, must be a bunch of former MS employees
> > > > at SUN
> > > > It was a real problem to get it to work before and that continues
> > > > now...
>
> > > > so bottom line is, 1 java install only, should it be JRE or Java, and
> > > > if it doesn't work, uninstall
> > > > and try other versions 1 at a time ??
>
> > > > cheers
>
> > > > On Sep 24, 6:20 am, Carlos <Car...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > > > Rabid man:
> > > > > You only need one JRE installed in your system.
> > > > > I just use the latest JRE6 u2 and have no problems.
> > > > > Also take into account that installing a newer version doesn't uninstall the
> > > > > previous one.
> > > > > You have to do it manually.
> > > > > Carlos
>
> > > > > "Rabid man" wrote:
> > > > > > What a mess that sun life site is. In any event, I do have the latest
> > > > > > java 6 update 2 installed as well as J2SE Runtime Environment 5 update
> > > > > > 12.
>
> > > > > > I had java working with xp64 before but have had top reimage and now
> > > > > > no luck. For example, logitech mouseware does not show the mouse. When
> > > > > > I drag the dialog box around, the mouse magically appears...I also
> > > > > > have another revenue canada applet which will work, but requires alt
> > > > > > tabbing....click something, nothing happens, alt tab back and forth,
> > > > > > then you see the effect of your previous click....
>
> > > > > > this is all very annoying. checking my image in my previous install, I
> > > > > > had these apps working perfectly with java virtual machine 5 update 5,
> > > > > > and java 6 update 1. It now does not work well with JVM 5 update 12
> > > > > > and Java 6 update 2...?????
>
> > > > > > what gives with this ? do I need both installed ? am I missing
> > > > > > something ? why is the sun site so convoluted ??
>
> > > > > > any input appreciated..
>
> > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > Randall
 
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