Re: Nvidia Driver Shutdown Problem
"Tamiami" <nospam@noway.moc> wrote in message
news:4698d4d5$0$8018$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
| MEB wrote:
| <snip>
| > | > |Tamiami wrote:
| > | > | And be sure to avoid anything from BFG.
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | --
| > | > | STOP using Google NOW! Protect your personal privacy.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > 81.98_forceware_win9x_english.exe from nVidia is the last *official*
| > driver
| > | > for 9X.
| > | >
| > | > MDGX lists an unofficial :
| > | >
| > | > Tweaked Unofficial NVIDIA Display Driver 82.69 for Windows 98/98
SP1/98
| > | > SE/ME
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > Automated installer executable [14.5 MB, multilingual]:
| > | >
http://www.mdgx.com/files/NV8269.EXE
| > | > Documentation [this file, English]:
| > | >
http://www.mdgx.com/files/nv8269.php
| > | > also available as plain text (ASCII):
| > | >
http://www.mdgx.com/files/NV8269.TXT
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > I have installed that driver, which has work "fairly well" for a
few
| > weeks.
| > | > As usual, your system is different so it may or may not work. Note
it is
| > a
| > | > tweaked driver, also that the NV8269 text shows reg tweaks which can
be
| > | > applied.
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > | Thanks so much MEB. Will give it a try. I previously tried to
install
| > | the 81.98 package and wouldn't install with this card.
| > |
| > | --
| > | STOP using Google NOW! Protect your personal privacy.
| >
| > That raises a good point.
| >
| > Since 98 is an unsupported OS with most of the major manufacturers of
| > devices, users will be searching for un-official drivers and various
fixes.
| > Hopefully those with the savy to *properly* test these supposed
fixes/ports
| > will do so for the rest of the users. Moreover, hopefully those with the
| > ability to do those ports will continue to do so.
| > Uniquely or not, Linux ports ARE being created by many of the
manufacturers
| > for these newer devices [one could make a reasonable argument that they
do
| > because that still allows them to get MS validation/certification,
whereas,
| > doing otherwise may cause them to not get this, check the various sites
for
| > WHY they may not go the full route for VISTA certification], or by the
users
| > of the OS. These unsupported MS OS users are now in that same boat as
those
| > users of Linux/other OSs.... user support for the OS rather than via
| > Microsoft.
| > Even those presently using the supported OSs such as XP and VISTA
should
| > understand that they are using true TIME LIMITED software / operating
| > systems. DRM is fully applied within them [and still being enhanced with
| > updates], so their *End Of Life* is end of product the first time an
| > activation is required beyond such support, unless Microsoft supplies
some
| > automatic method to do so. Don't hold your breath for this one, if that
was
| > intended then merely changing hardware would NOT be a consideration and
| > require potential re-activation. These are NOT portable/movable OSs and
| > applications.
| > This is going to leave an awful lot of *XP system* users that can not
| > support VISTA or 9X searching for Linux or other OSs to use [whoooooosh,
the
| > thought bulb flickers] after *End of Support Life*.
| >
| > The same holds true for vulnerabilities in the unsupported OSs,
| > applications, and other aspects. If it may cause issues for the general
| > user, those same users [for the most part] are the ones who will HAVE TO
| > advise other users, and create or advise of patches to correct them.
| >
| > Of course this overlays a responsibility upon the Microsoft user that
most
| > may be unfamiliar with. Having relied upon Microsoft to supply the
| > Notifications and updates and security fixes, and the manufacturers to
| > supply the needed updated drivers and/or software, when faced with these
| > necessary fixes, these users WILL have to make their own conscious
decisions
| > and hopefully informed choices, rather than blind acceptance of or
reliance
| > upon those previously *trusted*, *certified*, *bugfree* {cough}
sources...
| >
| > BTW, I note the "Stop using Google NOW". You do realize that Google was
the
| > only major data base holder who fought the government in court when the
| > governments demanded access to its data base [others may have complained
or
| > brought suit, but they readily supplied the data when pressed]. Even the
| > USENET servers collapsed under pressure of the governments' [US and
foreign]
| > demands. So YES, Google does collect massive amounts of
information/data,
| > but it may be one of the few who actually may be concerned with privacy
of
| > that collected data [it requires its *associates* to also guarantee any
| > shared data is held private]...
| > So since your fostering the idea that Google should not be used, whom
do
| > you suggest? Provide proof that privacy is protected or better protected
by
| > those services.
| >
|
| You right about one thing MEB, I'm holding my new copy of Kubuntu 7.04
| that arrived today. IMO 98SE is the most stable and easily controllable
| OS of the ages. It's a shame that the Planned Obsolescence Policies
| mandated by Bill Gates wreak so much havoc on the world. Not to mention
| the environmental damage caused through the disposal of perfectly good
| hardware - just because it's "Not Microsoft Certified." I hope you're
| right about increasing Linux development.
Well so am I; hopeful that is.
The sheer impact of all this *throw away society* and *designed in
obsolence* are yet to be fully addressed. Personally, I'm not sure they ever
will be, at least, before the sheer weight adds to the already overburdened
*world scale*, tipping the balance so radically as to be unrecoverable. The
general attitude is that we still have several decades of abuse before we
REALLY need to be concerned. As if the world can't add up all of the recent
world weather [and land] events.
But then we are dealing with world markets and investors demanding
reasonable profits regardless of the impact of those investments. We need
look to look at the entire picture of course. Regretfully much is left out
of the considerations, like the massive waste produced and massive energy
consumption, which can now be offset by supposed "green credits", meaning
investments in *future environmentally friendly* [and that can be decades
down the road] aspects can be used to offset present violations/destruction.
Moreover, those who show concern are outweighed by the investors in the
markets. Though a front may be placed for environmentally friendly aspects,
when it effects the investors returns, monentary enhancement over-rules the
supposed attempts because it MUST be profitable.
As for software development: The sad reality is most younger programmers
follow the money. *Microsoft programming* signifies that money. Its no
longer *good enough* for many, to receive peer recognition for your work,
monetary aspects generally are saught in some form.
I suppose it relates to the generally sad reality of the world, in whole.
BTW: I forgot {though you probably already do} to advise using DirectX 9.0c
with your card...
|
| As for Google, the firm has recently aligned with a few states in the US
| to develop an all-in-one database the would be so comprehensive a person
| would need only to type in MEB at the search field and the results would
| include MEB'S civil, criminal, social, and health histories in one
| encompassing return. To me, that's too much power of information for
| any corporation to ever exclusively control.
|
| --
| STOP using Google NOW! Protect your personal privacy.
Well, thanks for bringing that to light; but of course we shouldn't condemn
Google for the very same things occurring everywhere else. I could have
placed several sites upon which this [or similar] can already occur [and has
for years], but then I would be participating in the very thing I abhor.
When the governments [US and foreign] fomented the "patriot plans" and this
*assign all who oppose the government agenda as malcontents, radicals,
obstructionists, radicals, and "terrorist"*, any semblence of privacy was
lost, as well as any supposed *citizen* control. When corporatism [search US
Supreme Court rulings for the definition] trumped people controlled
government, there was only one outcome available.
Think of it like this:
When the governments and businesses started installing cameras on roadways
and buildings, supposedly to monitor traffic and potential illegal activity,
they essentially physically assigned EVERYONE as a potential criminal or
terrorist. Of course it was seen as reasonable for them to claim it was just
for safety and security of others, e.g. public welfare and protection.
When the governments [and they all did] fully instituted their policies for
*homeland safety*, removing the controls once placed upon them by the
peoples of the world by collecting and freely transferring information on
ANY of the peoples, any supposed privacy was lost. It was seen as reasonable
for the governments to claim it was for public welfare and safety.
When people began worrying openly about their safety and their children's,
and demanding the ability to investigate their neighbors ONLINE, any privacy
and obscurity was lost. It was lauded by the public and government as
distinctly for public welfare and safety.
When it became profitable to create or invest in businesses which do
complete investigations into ANYONE's background, privacy was placed in the
realm of non-existence; money or other enhancement outweigh others privacy
concerns. It became entirely reasonable for this to occur as long as profit
was had. Ask any CEO and the new millionaires, they will tell you so.
In fact: Ask the general world population; though they may find aspects
intrusive, but on whole, it must be okay because its for safety and
security....
Here's some things you may have overlooked:
When Google makes it a *no brainer* to check on ANYONE ANYWHERE, more
people MAY begin to understand their complete lack of privacy. When they
realize they may be seen as what they are or as what is fraudulently
presented as them, MAYBE the light will turn on, and we will see a return to
a measure of privacy. When they find out what their *personal ranking* is,
MAYBE they might be concerned...
Let all those who think they have nothing to hide, find out just how
damaging complete lack of privacy is.
Tax returns, domestic disputes, divorce, traffic tickets, going to the
wrong place at the wrong time, civil suits, videos of them talking to
someone in innocently being brought as questionable activity, health issues,
Internet tracks, credit disputes, email activity, online purchases, and
EVERYTHING else they do, is already monitored and logged; so perhaps
smacking everyone on the head with that 2 X 4 of non-existent privacy will
bring a demand for a return to that privacy. These are big MAYBES though.
So for Google to expose this complete lack of privacy to the world [which
has been occurring for years]: perhaps that IS what is needed to dispel the
complacency, to remove that *nose ring* from the governments' chattel.....
Until the general population understands: all this non-existent privacy
really provides nothing of true value for their increased security and
safety [there has always been other ways]; that all this armed and ready to
kill "security" is a real danger to EVERYONE; that this increased "fear
factor" is part of an old world plan; that much of what occurs, including
terrorist attacks, IS part of the plan; that .... well there I go, off on a
supposed *radical* rant, though I have spent years researching these issues
and others, and created a site to document and expose this and other aspects
......
Ah well, as far as I can see, this realization will never occur... what
corporation, business, or government is now going to give up these
abilities? What legislature or parliament would ever act to change this....
How many people actually understand what those government created "Patriot
Acts" and *homeland security Acts* [here and abroad] were actually for? Or
more importantly, even care...
--
MEB
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