Re: Fatal exceptions
I think it may be best to stick with glee. Anyhow, try what he said in
MSConfig. Nevertheless...
vandenplas wrote:
| Last Friday, after poking aournd the Microsoft web site, I did a
| Clean-Boot and cleared all the boxes in the Selective Startup
| section. I was able to get on the internet after doing so.
That would turn off the entire Startup Group. So, I suppose AOL doesn't
depend upon it, or you started it separately yourself. (Actually, that's
how NetZero works, too-- it isn't in the Startup Group.)
And there was no crash after sending a few E-Mails? Did things seem
quick enough, going only to safe NET sites?
| Then I
| went back to the Selective Startup menu and added one item back at a
| time. Each time I restarted the computer and again tried to get
| on-line. The AOL/McAfee was causing the Welcome Screen to freeze. I
| can now get on-line but the computer slows down to a crawl not long
| after.
But still no crashes? It could be as glee says, that McAfee is the
culprit. When I had McAfee installed, there came a time I could not have
its Auto-System scan running without suffering sluggishness in Explorer.
Also, it became near impossible to function online. The cure for me was
to revert to an older scan engine-- however, even that seemed a tad
ornery after a while. Finally, my version of McAfee (v.5.21.1000 Scan
Engine 4.3.20) no longer would take updated definitions, even manually.
Is your version STILL getting new virus definitions?
(1) I guess try a Scandisk & Defrag-- but DON'T let them constantly
restart. If they try, abort, & post back for instructions.
(2) Try running McAfee & AOL together.
If there is no significant improvement, verify that AOL indeed is
quicker w/o McAfee running (& that you cannot find a trick or setting to
make them cooperate). If so, as glee said...
http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html Avast (free)
http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_index.php AVG 6.0 (free)
There are a few peccadilloes, but overall I am very pleased now with
avast!.
| Clicking on the blue "e" for internet explorer has never
| gotten me on line so AOL is my only access.
NetZero is like that too. I have to click its own connectoid & cannot
get online any other way. (Well, there may be a setting I can try-- but
I see no pressing need to chance it!)
| Maybe...two years ago I
| tried installing Firefox but was never able to get it to work. Oh,
| after the Clean Boot, I was able to read mail on my Hotmail account
| but as soon as I tried to send an email the computer slowed and then
| stopped. Could the video driver you mentioned earlier cause such a
| behaviour? Not sure if it matters but after doing the clean boot the
| computer restarts much quicker. Any thoughts or suggestions are
| welcome.
| Cheers, John
|
| "PCR" wrote:
|
|> glee wrote:
|> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
|> | news:O1Vi5BGCIHA.5044@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
|> |> glee wrote:
|> |> | In answer to your question in the other reply, yes, run the
|> |> | memory diagnostic long loop test....all afternoon or overnight,
|> |> | whichever is more convenient.
|> |> |
|> |> | Safe Mode in and of itself, is a sort of diagnostic test. If
|> |> | you are not getting any errors while in Safe Mode, that pretty
|> |> | much eliminates hardware as a problem, and puts the focus onto
|> |> | your software and device drivers. Since Safe Mode does not
|> |> | load your video driver but uses a generic one instead, the
|> |> | first driver to suspect is the video driver (though by no means
|> |> | the only one to suspect).
|> |> |
|> |> | You can test the video driver as a cause of the problem by
|> |> | starting in Safe Mode, then running System Configuration
|> |> | (Start> Run> msconfig), on the General tab click the Advanced
|> |> | button.
|> |> | Put a check in the box for "VGA 640 x480 x16"
|> |> | Click OK all the way out and restart in normal mode when
|> |> | prompted.
|> |>
|> |> It's interesting. The blurb for that box is...
|> |>
|> |> "Forces the display to use the VGA driver. The user will not be
|> |> able to clear this check box if the VGA driver was already
|> |> installed when starting the System Configuration Utility. This is
|> |> equivalent to the Display.drv=Vga.drv setting in the System.ini
|> |> file."
|> |>
|> |> Will he be able to clear it again in Safe Mode? Or, must he
|> |> restore a prior System.ini? Should I experiment, or do you
|> |> already know the answer?
|> |
|> | What the blurb means is:
|> |
|> | If the user has the display driver for his particular display
|> | adapter installed, then the box will be clear when entering
|> | msconfig> Advanced, and after checking the box, it will be able to
|> | be cleared again.
|> |
|> | If the user is *already* using the "Standard VGA 640x480" generic
|> | driver in Windows, the box will already be checked, and it will not
|> | be possible to clear it. In order to clear it, another display
|> | driver will have to be installed/loaded.
|>
|> I understand. If there is no alternative display driver, Windows
|> knows better than to allow the box to be checked or unchecked.
|> Otherwise, all will be fine with that box.
|>
|> | Please, feel free to experiment. ;-)
|>
|> No! I believe you implicitly! OK, thanks!
|>
|> |>
|> |> Looks like TWO sections in System.ini mention "Display.drv="
|> |>
|> |> [boot]
|> |> display.drv=pnpdrvr.drv
|> |>
|> |> [boot.description]
|> |> display.drv=Trident Blade3D/MVP4 (63)
|> |>
|> |> | Does this have any effect on the error messages? If the errors
|> |> | stop, the video driver is likely at fault.
|> |
|> |> |
|> |> |
|> |> | "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
|> |> | message
|> |> | news:C030A400-84B6-480E-80F1-30E7CC55FB4B@microsoft.com...
|> |> |> Sorry I didn't notice the second part of your message. I did
|> |> |> try starting the computer in safe mode. I was unable to get
|> |> |> on line with it in safe mode however. I can poke around the
|> |> |> computer without it crashing while in safe mode so I suppose
|> |> |> that's something. Is there any kind of diagnostic I can run
|> |> |> in safe mode to find out what is wrong with my system?
|> |> |> Looking under the "Performance" tab under system properties it
|> |> |> said, "Compatibility-mode paging reduces overall system
|> |> |> performance". No clue what, if anything, that means.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> Cheers, John
|> |> |>
|> |> |> glee" wrote:
|> |> |>
|> |> |>> Do none of the errors name a file at the end?
|> |> |>>
|> |> |>> Example:
|> |> |>> Fatal exception 0D at 168F:016775E5 in VxD somefilename
|> |> |>>
|> |> |>> Have you checked your RAM?
|> |> |>> Windows Memory Tester
|> |> |>>
http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp
|> |> |>>
|> |> |>> Are you getting the errors in Safe Mode?
|> |> |>>
|> |> |>> To start in Safe Mode:
|> |> |>> - Start the computer and hold down the CTRL key till the
|> |> |>> Windows 98 Startup menu (boot menu) appears.
|> |> |>> OR
|> |> |>> - Repeatedly tap the F8 key after the memory count to bring up
|> |> |>> the boot menu.
|> |> |>> - Use the arrow keys to select "Safe Mode" and press Enter.
|> |
|> |> |>>
|> |> |>> "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
|> |> |>> message
|> |> |>> news:E88060C5-8159-4CFB-94C0-E6F9310B9971@microsoft.com...
|> |> |>> > Ok, here goes...
|> |> |>> >
|> |> |>> > OD 0909:01672468B
|> |> |>> > 0246:016747FB
|> |> |>> > 30AF:016F6B97
|> |> |>> > 0202:01674096
|> |> |>> > 2FAF:016F6B97
|> |> |>> > 168F:016775E5
|> |> |>> >
|> |> |>> > OE 1454:0167268B
|> |> |>> > 0187:BFF9DFFF
|> |> |>> > 0187:BFF8976B
|> |> |>> >
|> |> |>> > It seems that I'm at the point now where any time I try to
|> |> |>> > launch a program it freezes my computer. I don't know if it
|> |> |>> > means anything but each time I get another fatal exception
|> |> |>> > the number is slightly different whether it's an OE or OD
|> |> |>> > error. In fact, the exact letter/number sequence has yet to
|> |> |>> > repeat. It's weird because until recently my Win98SE
|> |> |>> > machine has always been more stable than my Win ME machine.
|> |> |>> >
|> |> |>> > Cheers, John
|> |> |>> >
|> |> |>> > "glee" wrote:
|> |> |>> >
|> |> |>> >> ....and the 9 fatal exceptions are what exactly, word for
|> |> |>> >> word?
|> |> |>> >>
|> |> |>> >> What Are Fatal Exception Errors
|> |> |>> >>
http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=150314
|> |> |>> >>
|> |> |>> >> Bad RAM Causes Fatal Exception Errors Running Windows
|> |> |>> >> 95/98:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=138788
|> |> |>> >>
|> |> |>> >> Err Msg: A Fatal Exception 0E Has Occurred at 0028
|> |> |>> >>
http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=189655
|> |> |>> >>
|> |> |>> >> "Fatal Exception" Error Message When You Browse the
|> |> |>> >> Internet with a Cable Modem
|> |> |>> >>
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=298576
|> |> |>> >>
|> |> |>> >> Fatal Exception Error When You Use Photo Editing Program
|> |> |>> >>
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=302869
|> |> |>> >>
|> |> |>> >> "Fatal Exception 0D" Error Message Installing Program
|> |> |>> >>
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=162390
|> |> |>> >>
|> |> |>> >> "Fatal Exception 0E" Error Message When Running McAfee
|> |> |>> >> VirusScan
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=177672
|> |> |>> >>
|> |> |>> >> Fatal Exception 0E Shutting Down Using a Matrox Video
|> |> |>> >> Adapter
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=253241
|> |
|> |> |>> >>
|> |> |>> >>
|> |> |>> >> "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
|> |> |>> >> in message
|> |> |>> >> news:BBF73E68-2146-4A68-BE46-2E59FCE2D06E@microsoft.com...
|> |> |>> >> > Hello. I'm running Windows 98SE on a 433mhz Gateway with
|> |> |>> >> > 256mb. For the last month or two I've only been able to
|> |> |>> >> > read/write 3 or 4 emails before I have to restart the
|> |> |>> >> > computer. Same thing holds true for surfing the web.
|> |> |>> >> > I've actually been putting up with this but now I can
|> |> |>> >> > connect to Aol but it freezes shortly after the welcome
|> |> |>> >> > screen loads. In the last three days I've had 9
|> |> |>> >> > different fatal exceptions. I have tried searching each
|> |> |>> >> > on on the internet from my other computer but don't find
|> |> |>> >> > them mentioned anywhere. I ran memtest from microsoft
|> |> |>> >> > but it said my memory was fine. Any suggestions?
|> |> |>> >> >
|> |> |>> >> > Cheers, John
|> |>
|> | --
|> | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
|> |
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|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|>
pcrrcp@netzero.net
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Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net