Sad but true, Another X64 tale.

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Like many other before me, I decided it was time to get a 64 bit system.
I got a combo from the "Geeks" which I placed in an old enclosure with
a new power supply. The combo wouldn't load winxp 32, win 98 or
anything else. It wouldn't even boot a hard drive with win xp on it.
Good thing MS offered a trial 64 bit XP. I downloaded it, burned it,
loaded it and "poof"! I have a 64 bit operating system. The video is
on the motherboard and the LED mouse works fine as does the ethernet
adapter (onboard as well). As a matter of fact, as an internet browser
it's just great, but not noticebly better than my old socket A 1 gig
duron set up.
It's just wonderful! Everything works! (unless you want to add a
peripheral like a printer, a network card, a video capture card, a
bluetooth adapter, a serial port adapter; actually 100% of the devices
I tried to install didn't load.)
I was going to try to load some regular software, but whats the point?
I can't print, copy, scan, send or retrieve anything unless it goes
through my old stand-by computer anyway, and even then, it didn't like
the way I set up the LAN. But I threatened to take away 1 gig of
memory and it finally let itself be recognized by the network.
I spent one day trying to get drivers that would work with any device.
Even the Vista 64 bit drivers wouldn't work. It was like giving myself
a wedgie, only faster!

So, I thought I would just buy device that would work with win 64. Try
that!
The amount of time I have spent looking at specs (and not finding x64)
is going against the faster speed and reliability of the OS. (which is
a misnomer, sure it's reliable and stable, it doesn't DO anything.) I
will be too old to see the screen and probably won't care when I escape
from the nursing home to get the first compatible usb device!

The funny thing is that when you look at the new systems for sale, most
of them are 64 bit. Probably Vista though, but way too slow. Does Linux
have a 64 bit OS?

So if anyone knows where a feller can buy a x64 wireless G usb dongle,
you know where I'll be....


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Re: Sad but true, Another X64 tale.

I suggest you try to find out why you couldn't load XP 86 as millions have
it installed on 64-bit platforms. You might get help in the
microsoft.public.windowsxp.setup

"sazzbot" <sazzbot.2xycjg@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
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>
> Like many other before me, I decided it was time to get a 64 bit system.
> I got a combo from the "Geeks" which I placed in an old enclosure with
> a new power supply. The combo wouldn't load winxp 32, win 98 or
> anything else. It wouldn't even boot a hard drive with win xp on it.
> Good thing MS offered a trial 64 bit XP. I downloaded it, burned it,
> loaded it and "poof"! I have a 64 bit operating system. The video is
> on the motherboard and the LED mouse works fine as does the ethernet
> adapter (onboard as well). As a matter of fact, as an internet browser
> it's just great, but not noticebly better than my old socket A 1 gig
> duron set up.
> It's just wonderful! Everything works! (unless you want to add a
> peripheral like a printer, a network card, a video capture card, a
> bluetooth adapter, a serial port adapter; actually 100% of the devices
> I tried to install didn't load.)
> I was going to try to load some regular software, but whats the point?
> I can't print, copy, scan, send or retrieve anything unless it goes
> through my old stand-by computer anyway, and even then, it didn't like
> the way I set up the LAN. But I threatened to take away 1 gig of
> memory and it finally let itself be recognized by the network.
> I spent one day trying to get drivers that would work with any device.
> Even the Vista 64 bit drivers wouldn't work. It was like giving myself
> a wedgie, only faster!
>
> So, I thought I would just buy device that would work with win 64. Try
> that!
> The amount of time I have spent looking at specs (and not finding x64)
> is going against the faster speed and reliability of the OS. (which is
> a misnomer, sure it's reliable and stable, it doesn't DO anything.) I
> will be too old to see the screen and probably won't care when I escape
> from the nursing home to get the first compatible usb device!
>
> The funny thing is that when you look at the new systems for sale, most
> of them are 64 bit. Probably Vista though, but way too slow. Does Linux
> have a 64 bit OS?
>
> So if anyone knows where a feller can buy a x64 wireless G usb dongle,
> you know where I'll be....
>
>
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Re: Sad but true, Another X64 tale.

The list of printers that work is long and well documented. And the
workarounds for ones that don't work directly are also well documented.
(I've been keeping a blog of such things for well over 2 years now.) Of
course, if you buy a printer that uses "host based printing", you're out of
luck. And scanners are the pits and still very badly supported, I'd agree.
But there are options that work.

Network cards? Please. I haven't seen a modern ethernet card that isn't
supported. There are wireless that aren't, but equally ones that are. And
there are USB NICs that aren't supported, but frankly who cares.

Video capture? There are a couple that work, I believe. Carlos will probably
weigh in with those.

Bluetooth? well, if that didn't work, I wouldn't have a mouse! Yes, there
are bluetooth devices that don't work. But many do.

Serial port adapter? How about using one of those USB<->Serial adapters.
I'm pretty sure they work. I'm not surprised that generic PCI serial port
cards don't - there just isn't all that much market or call for them in the
64bit world at this point.

Do your homework. Intelligent buying decisions will make you fully
functional. Keep in mind that the folks on this newsgroup have been running
Windows x64, primarily XP x64, for well over 2 years. So saying it can't be
done isn't likely to cut it here. Now, asking about specific hardware or
types of hardware and what might good choices be? That will get you help.
That's what we do.

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http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"sazzbot" <sazzbot.2xycjg@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
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>
> Like many other before me, I decided it was time to get a 64 bit system.
> I got a combo from the "Geeks" which I placed in an old enclosure with
> a new power supply. The combo wouldn't load winxp 32, win 98 or
> anything else. It wouldn't even boot a hard drive with win xp on it.
> Good thing MS offered a trial 64 bit XP. I downloaded it, burned it,
> loaded it and "poof"! I have a 64 bit operating system. The video is
> on the motherboard and the LED mouse works fine as does the ethernet
> adapter (onboard as well). As a matter of fact, as an internet browser
> it's just great, but not noticebly better than my old socket A 1 gig
> duron set up.
> It's just wonderful! Everything works! (unless you want to add a
> peripheral like a printer, a network card, a video capture card, a
> bluetooth adapter, a serial port adapter; actually 100% of the devices
> I tried to install didn't load.)
> I was going to try to load some regular software, but whats the point?
> I can't print, copy, scan, send or retrieve anything unless it goes
> through my old stand-by computer anyway, and even then, it didn't like
> the way I set up the LAN. But I threatened to take away 1 gig of
> memory and it finally let itself be recognized by the network.
> I spent one day trying to get drivers that would work with any device.
> Even the Vista 64 bit drivers wouldn't work. It was like giving myself
> a wedgie, only faster!
>
> So, I thought I would just buy device that would work with win 64. Try
> that!
> The amount of time I have spent looking at specs (and not finding x64)
> is going against the faster speed and reliability of the OS. (which is
> a misnomer, sure it's reliable and stable, it doesn't DO anything.) I
> will be too old to see the screen and probably won't care when I escape
> from the nursing home to get the first compatible usb device!
>
> The funny thing is that when you look at the new systems for sale, most
> of them are 64 bit. Probably Vista though, but way too slow. Does Linux
> have a 64 bit OS?
>
> So if anyone knows where a feller can buy a x64 wireless G usb dongle,
> you know where I'll be....
>
>
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Re: Sad but true, Another X64 tale.

Did somebody say Carlos?
On the video capturing side I have always used the easy approach, like those
suggestions of you about using a COM port Modem, PCL Postscript printer, etc.
It is simply Firewire (a.k.a. IEEE-1394) either embedded in the mobo or a
PCI card.
XP x64 and Vista x64 have native drivers for those chipsets.
I am currently using a very old ADS tech Firewire PCI Card (Pyro 1394 DV) in
Vista x64.
I have so far plugged two different Digital Video Camcorders and captured
video from them.
Now, if the OP wants something more elaborate like USB capture module or PCI
capture card or whatever he likes, there's this page
http://www.videoguys.com/vidcap.htm
where he will find a comprehensive list of manufacturers of video capture
thingies.
I leave him the homework of checking x64 drivers availability.
Carlos

"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> The list of printers that work is long and well documented. And the
> workarounds for ones that don't work directly are also well documented.
> (I've been keeping a blog of such things for well over 2 years now.) Of
> course, if you buy a printer that uses "host based printing", you're out of
> luck. And scanners are the pits and still very badly supported, I'd agree.
> But there are options that work.
>
> Network cards? Please. I haven't seen a modern ethernet card that isn't
> supported. There are wireless that aren't, but equally ones that are. And
> there are USB NICs that aren't supported, but frankly who cares.
>
> Video capture? There are a couple that work, I believe. Carlos will probably
> weigh in with those.
>
> Bluetooth? well, if that didn't work, I wouldn't have a mouse! Yes, there
> are bluetooth devices that don't work. But many do.
>
> Serial port adapter? How about using one of those USB<->Serial adapters.
> I'm pretty sure they work. I'm not surprised that generic PCI serial port
> cards don't - there just isn't all that much market or call for them in the
> 64bit world at this point.
>
> Do your homework. Intelligent buying decisions will make you fully
> functional. Keep in mind that the folks on this newsgroup have been running
> Windows x64, primarily XP x64, for well over 2 years. So saying it can't be
> done isn't likely to cut it here. Now, asking about specific hardware or
> types of hardware and what might good choices be? That will get you help.
> That's what we do.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "sazzbot" <sazzbot.2xycjg@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
> news:sazzbot.2xycjg@DoNotSpam.com...
> >
> > Like many other before me, I decided it was time to get a 64 bit system.
> > I got a combo from the "Geeks" which I placed in an old enclosure with
> > a new power supply. The combo wouldn't load winxp 32, win 98 or
> > anything else. It wouldn't even boot a hard drive with win xp on it.
> > Good thing MS offered a trial 64 bit XP. I downloaded it, burned it,
> > loaded it and "poof"! I have a 64 bit operating system. The video is
> > on the motherboard and the LED mouse works fine as does the ethernet
> > adapter (onboard as well). As a matter of fact, as an internet browser
> > it's just great, but not noticebly better than my old socket A 1 gig
> > duron set up.
> > It's just wonderful! Everything works! (unless you want to add a
> > peripheral like a printer, a network card, a video capture card, a
> > bluetooth adapter, a serial port adapter; actually 100% of the devices
> > I tried to install didn't load.)
> > I was going to try to load some regular software, but whats the point?
> > I can't print, copy, scan, send or retrieve anything unless it goes
> > through my old stand-by computer anyway, and even then, it didn't like
> > the way I set up the LAN. But I threatened to take away 1 gig of
> > memory and it finally let itself be recognized by the network.
> > I spent one day trying to get drivers that would work with any device.
> > Even the Vista 64 bit drivers wouldn't work. It was like giving myself
> > a wedgie, only faster!
> >
> > So, I thought I would just buy device that would work with win 64. Try
> > that!
> > The amount of time I have spent looking at specs (and not finding x64)
> > is going against the faster speed and reliability of the OS. (which is
> > a misnomer, sure it's reliable and stable, it doesn't DO anything.) I
> > will be too old to see the screen and probably won't care when I escape
> > from the nursing home to get the first compatible usb device!
> >
> > The funny thing is that when you look at the new systems for sale, most
> > of them are 64 bit. Probably Vista though, but way too slow. Does Linux
> > have a 64 bit OS?
> >
> > So if anyone knows where a feller can buy a x64 wireless G usb dongle,
> > you know where I'll be....
> >
> >
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Re: Sad but true, Another X64 tale.

Thanks, Carlos. I knew you would be tuned in there. Not anything I do much
of, so haven't been paying attention.

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"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BA41ACA4-B75C-438B-8A13-C242BF186C83@microsoft.com...
> Did somebody say Carlos?
> On the video capturing side I have always used the easy approach, like
> those
> suggestions of you about using a COM port Modem, PCL Postscript printer,
> etc.
> It is simply Firewire (a.k.a. IEEE-1394) either embedded in the mobo or a
> PCI card.
> XP x64 and Vista x64 have native drivers for those chipsets.
> I am currently using a very old ADS tech Firewire PCI Card (Pyro 1394 DV)
> in
> Vista x64.
> I have so far plugged two different Digital Video Camcorders and captured
> video from them.
> Now, if the OP wants something more elaborate like USB capture module or
> PCI
> capture card or whatever he likes, there's this page
> http://www.videoguys.com/vidcap.htm
> where he will find a comprehensive list of manufacturers of video capture
> thingies.
> I leave him the homework of checking x64 drivers availability.
> Carlos
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:
>
>> The list of printers that work is long and well documented. And the
>> workarounds for ones that don't work directly are also well documented.
>> (I've been keeping a blog of such things for well over 2 years now.) Of
>> course, if you buy a printer that uses "host based printing", you're out
>> of
>> luck. And scanners are the pits and still very badly supported, I'd
>> agree.
>> But there are options that work.
>>
>> Network cards? Please. I haven't seen a modern ethernet card that isn't
>> supported. There are wireless that aren't, but equally ones that are. And
>> there are USB NICs that aren't supported, but frankly who cares.
>>
>> Video capture? There are a couple that work, I believe. Carlos will
>> probably
>> weigh in with those.
>>
>> Bluetooth? well, if that didn't work, I wouldn't have a mouse! Yes, there
>> are bluetooth devices that don't work. But many do.
>>
>> Serial port adapter? How about using one of those USB<->Serial adapters.
>> I'm pretty sure they work. I'm not surprised that generic PCI serial port
>> cards don't - there just isn't all that much market or call for them in
>> the
>> 64bit world at this point.
>>
>> Do your homework. Intelligent buying decisions will make you fully
>> functional. Keep in mind that the folks on this newsgroup have been
>> running
>> Windows x64, primarily XP x64, for well over 2 years. So saying it can't
>> be
>> done isn't likely to cut it here. Now, asking about specific hardware or
>> types of hardware and what might good choices be? That will get you help.
>> That's what we do.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>
>>
>> "sazzbot" <sazzbot.2xycjg@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
>> news:sazzbot.2xycjg@DoNotSpam.com...
>> >
>> > Like many other before me, I decided it was time to get a 64 bit
>> > system.
>> > I got a combo from the "Geeks" which I placed in an old enclosure with
>> > a new power supply. The combo wouldn't load winxp 32, win 98 or
>> > anything else. It wouldn't even boot a hard drive with win xp on it.
>> > Good thing MS offered a trial 64 bit XP. I downloaded it, burned it,
>> > loaded it and "poof"! I have a 64 bit operating system. The video is
>> > on the motherboard and the LED mouse works fine as does the ethernet
>> > adapter (onboard as well). As a matter of fact, as an internet browser
>> > it's just great, but not noticebly better than my old socket A 1 gig
>> > duron set up.
>> > It's just wonderful! Everything works! (unless you want to add a
>> > peripheral like a printer, a network card, a video capture card, a
>> > bluetooth adapter, a serial port adapter; actually 100% of the devices
>> > I tried to install didn't load.)
>> > I was going to try to load some regular software, but whats the point?
>> > I can't print, copy, scan, send or retrieve anything unless it goes
>> > through my old stand-by computer anyway, and even then, it didn't like
>> > the way I set up the LAN. But I threatened to take away 1 gig of
>> > memory and it finally let itself be recognized by the network.
>> > I spent one day trying to get drivers that would work with any device.
>> > Even the Vista 64 bit drivers wouldn't work. It was like giving myself
>> > a wedgie, only faster!
>> >
>> > So, I thought I would just buy device that would work with win 64. Try
>> > that!
>> > The amount of time I have spent looking at specs (and not finding x64)
>> > is going against the faster speed and reliability of the OS. (which is
>> > a misnomer, sure it's reliable and stable, it doesn't DO anything.) I
>> > will be too old to see the screen and probably won't care when I escape
>> > from the nursing home to get the first compatible usb device!
>> >
>> > The funny thing is that when you look at the new systems for sale, most
>> > of them are 64 bit. Probably Vista though, but way too slow. Does
>> > Linux
>> > have a 64 bit OS?
>> >
>> > So if anyone knows where a feller can buy a x64 wireless G usb dongle,
>> > you know where I'll be....
>> >
>> >
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