Re: exit from MSDos
thanatoid wrote:
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in
| news:OazMKh4CIHA.3332@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
|
|> thanatoid wrote:
|>| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in
|>| news:#u69SKsCIHA.4308@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:
|>|
|>|> brucegooglegroups wrote:
|>|>| After rebooting into MSDOS mode, I find that I can't
|>|>| restart the computer into
|>|>| Windows. Exit( which may work only internally) doesn't
|>|>| work. What is the command to exit from MSDOS in order to
|>|>| restart the computer in Windows 98?
|>|>| Thanks.
|>|>
|>|> First, try EXIT at the DOS Prompt.
|>|> If that fails, try "WIN /WX".
|>|> If that fails, finally...
|>|>
|>|> REN C:\Config.sys Config.bad
|>|> REN C:\Autoexec.bat Autoexec.bad
|>|> Ctrl-Alt-Del hopefully to Windows
|>|>
|>|> In Windows...
|>|>
|>|> START, Find, F/F, *.wos
|>|> START, Find, F/F, *.bad
|>|> Open them in Notepad, & post.
|>|>
|>|>
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;15
|>|> 17 17 Can't EXIT MS-DOS Mode
|>|>
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=130448
|>|> Can't QUIT MS-DOS Mode
|>|>
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;q1
|>|> 38 996 Description of Restarting Computer in MS-DOS Mode
|>|>
|>|>| Bruce
|>|>
|>|
|>| The above good advice aside, you should be aware that
|>| "restart in DOS" is NOT really 100% true DOS - just sort
|>| of a DOS within windows.
|>
|> Well, Chris Quirke also doesn't like the default behavior
|> of "START, Shut Down, Restart in MS-DOS Mode". It leaves a
|> 4K stub of Windows in memory which will be used to restart
|> Windows when EXIT is typed at the DOS prompt. Chris
|> believes the fact that Windows has run & is prepared to
|> start again may cause DOS & Windows to interfere with each
|> other. And he likely knows better than me, (but I still
|> will do it that way for little things). There may be more
|> about that at...
http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/
|>
|> HOWEVER, the DOS that runs that way is the same as the DOS
|> that runs from a cold boot. It isn't the DOS of a Windows
|> DOS box
|>
|>| If you want DOS as it really IS, you have to reboot and go
|>| into DOS before Windows rears its ugly face (F5 or F6 or
|>| whatever depending on OS version).
|>
|> "Windows 98 Secrets" (Livingston/Straub), pgs 1068,1099,
|> explains:
|>
|> 1. Direct Boot to DOS (Cold booted DOS)
|>
|> a. Accessed through Boot Menu item, "Command Prompt Only".
|> b. Windows is not started.
|> c. Config.sys & Autoexec.bat are run, if present.
|> d. Ctrl-Alt-Del boots Windows. "WIN" loads Windows.
|>
|> 2. "Quit" to DOS (Re-started MS-DOS mode)
|>
|> a. Accessed from "START, Shut Down, Restart in MS-DOS
|> mode",
|> unless "Exit to DOS" pif was converted to "Warm Boot".
|> b. Accessed from any .pif whose "Properties, Program tab,
|> Advanced button" is checked "MS-DOS mode" but NOT
|> bolted "Specify a new MS-DOS configuration".
|> c. Is NOT a warm boot; Config.sys & Autoexec.bat are NOT
|> re-run,
|> but are honored to the extent Windows has not mussed
|> the environment they set.
|> d. Dosstart.bat is run, if present.
|> e. "EXIT" reloads Windows (from 4K stub), also without a
|> boot.
|> Ctrl-Alt-Del boots Windows.
|>
|> 3. Warm Booted MS-DOS mode ("Re-boot" to DOS)
|>
|> a. Accessed from a "Warm Boot" .pif that IS BOTH checked
|> "MS-DOS mode" AND bolted "Specify a new MS-DOS
|> configuration", in it's Properties, Program tab,
|> Advanced button.
|> b. Accessed from START button, if you've altered "exit to
|> dos",
|> as described.
|> c. Does a warm boot, using Config.sys and Autoexec.bat as
|> configured in the pif. (The system files are renamed
|> *.wos & the .pif files are extracted for the session.)
|> d. Dosstart.bat is NOT run.
|> e. "EXIT" restores the system Config.sys & Autoexec.bat &
|> warm
|> boots to Windows. (Ctrl-Alt-Del & "WIN" should NOT be
|> used.)
|>
|> If you don't want to modify the "exit to dos" pif so that
|> it does a warm boot, then create a pif this way:
|>
|> 1. "START, Find, Command.com". (Probably in C:\ &
|> C:\Windows). 2. "R-Clk either, Send to, Desktop (create
|> shortcut)". It will be
|> named "MS-DOS Prompt".
|> 3. R-Clk "MS-DOS Prompt" on the Desktop, & select
|> Properties. 4. Click the Program tab & then the Advanced
|> button. 5. Mark the MS-DOS Mode check box. Mark "Warn
|> before entering...",
|> as desired.
|> 6. For a "Warm Boot to DOS" pif, mark the "Specify a New
|> MS-DOS
|> Configuration" button. If you do not do that, you will
|> have a
|> "Quit to DOS" pif.
|> 7. OK you're way out.
|>
|> When you click that pif, you will either "warm boot" or
|> "quit to DOS", depending on what you did in step 6. If it's
|> a warm boot, then the Config.sys & Autoexec.bat inside the
|> pif are the ones that will be in effect in your DOS
|> session. Alter them inside the pif as desired, before
|> clicking it.
|>
|> Cquirke's WARNING: Because of system/.pif file switching,
|> give a Warm Boot .pif a chance to execute after clicking.
|> If you click it a second time before getting to DOS, you
|> may lose your system Config.sys & Autoexec.bat files.
|>
|>
|
| Thanks for explaining in considerably more accurate ;-)
| terminology what I was trying to say.
OK. I thought you might have meant that.
| The rest of the post made my old head hurt, although is IS very
| impressive knowledge.
Initially, it came out of that book & some experimentation of my own.
Afterwards, both cquirke & likely Blanton had a hand in it.
| THAT having been said (and this is directed at the OP really),
| WHAT the hell is wrong with shutting down completely, even
| turning off the power switch for 15 seconds if you're *really* a
| perfectionist, and just starting in DOS?
Well, as Buffalo says, that may put a strain on the power supply & the
hard drive(s)'s motor(s). And this is doubly true, if you also will
suggested that the machine be shut off again, before booting again to
Windows. So... one or other of the .pif's should be used, if you go to
DOS 1 1/2 times per blue moon!
| Ever heard of the boot
| menu? ENABLE IT!
Absolutely...!...
(a) "START button, Run, MSConfig, Advanced button".
(b) Check... "Enable Startup Menu".
Doing it that way puts up the menu at boot with a 30 second timer for it
to default to a boot to Windows. Hit the ENTER key for it to resume the
boot immediately. Hit any other key for it to wait forever for a choice.
| My machine boots fully into Windows in 45 seconds and it's a
| 166MHz! All these stupid Microsoft "let's make it easier in the
| dumb user" things have a curious way of biting you in the ass
| sooner or later.
|
| I still do some things in DOS sometimes, but when I'm done, I
| ALWAYS SHUT DOWN, and reboot from scratch, going into Windows
| for the usual stuff.
So! If you are in Windows, you will shut down TWICE before getting back
to Windows, if you've thought of something to quickly do in DOS! Hmph!
--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
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