Win.ini: [TRANTOR_SETUP_PROGRAM_LOADED_TEMPORARY_INFO]

[Him]

Hello! I doubt anyone will be able to answer this.
I'm trying to squeeze every last byte out of my Father's ME system. In
Msconfig/Win.ini I find a key named
[TRANTOR_SETUP_PROGRAM_LOADED_TEMPORARY_INFO].
Has this got any reason for existence? Doesn't sound likely, does it.

I'll disable it for a test, but still would like to know what it was I
disabled.
Thank you kindly!

 

[Mike M]

Re: Win.ini: [TRANTOR_SETUP_PROGRAM_LOADED_TEMPORARY_INFO]

What would perhaps be of interest are the lines that follow this entry up
to the next entry in square brackets. Do you have any unusual hardware
such as a scsi hard drive?

Also ensure that you have scanned your system thoroughly with your AV
application having first updated its reference signatures.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Him <Him@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Hello! I doubt anyone will be able to answer this.
> I'm trying to squeeze every last byte out of my Father's ME system. In
> Msconfig/Win.ini I find a key named
> [TRANTOR_SETUP_PROGRAM_LOADED_TEMPORARY_INFO].
> Has this got any reason for existence? Doesn't sound likely, does it.
>
> I'll disable it for a test, but still would like to know what it was I
> disabled.
> Thank you kindly!

 

[Him]

Re: Win.ini: [TRANTOR_SETUP_PROGRAM_LOADED_TEMPORARY_INFO]

Thank you, Mike M for the quick reply!
I take it you and I've done the same searches. 'Also found hits where, a
French site finds it to be a trojan, and Microsoft supplies answers to
Trantor/SCSI-models' issues.

The following (sub-)lines are:
# INSTANCE=9686
# TASK=9614

I think maybe perhaps my brother once worked for a translation bureau, that
might have used a program called Trantor. Because, I do find when googling
there is such a program and my bro is a translator. But how the program found
its way into win.ini is more than I can say, so I can't confirm that in any
way. It's a thought, though.

Not yet any misbehaviour after disabling |Trantor...|.




"Mike M" wrote:

> What would perhaps be of interest are the lines that follow this entry up
> to the next entry in square brackets. Do you have any unusual hardware
> such as a scsi hard drive?
>
> Also ensure that you have scanned your system thoroughly with your AV
> application having first updated its reference signatures.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>
> Him <Him@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello! I doubt anyone will be able to answer this.
> > I'm trying to squeeze every last byte out of my Father's ME system. In
> > Msconfig/Win.ini I find a key named
> > [TRANTOR_SETUP_PROGRAM_LOADED_TEMPORARY_INFO].
> > Has this got any reason for existence? Doesn't sound likely, does it.
> >
> > I'll disable it for a test, but still would like to know what it was I
> > disabled.
> > Thank you kindly!
>
>

 

[Greegor]

Re: Win.ini: [TRANTOR_SETUP_PROGRAM_LOADED_TEMPORARY_INFO]

On Oct 11, 2:35 pm, Him <H...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> Thank you, Mike M for the quick reply!
> I take it you and I've done the same searches. 'Also found hits where, a
> French site finds it to be a trojan, and Microsoft supplies answers to
> Trantor/SCSI-models' issues.
>
> The following (sub-)lines are:
> # INSTANCE=9686
> # TASK=9614
>
> I think maybe perhaps my brother once worked for a translation bureau, that
> might have used a program called Trantor. Because, I do find when googling
> there is such a program and my bro is a translator. But how the program found
> its way into win.ini is more than I can say, so I can't confirm that in any
> way. It's a thought, though.
>
> Not yet any misbehaviour after disabling |Trantor...|.
>
>
>
> "Mike M" wrote:
> > What would perhaps be of interest are the lines that follow this entry up
> > to the next entry in square brackets. Do you have any unusual hardware
> > such as a scsi hard drive?
>
> > Also ensure that you have scanned your system thoroughly with your AV
> > application having first updated its reference signatures.
> > --
> > Mike Maltby
> > mike.mal...@gmail.com
>
> > Him <H...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > > Hello! I doubt anyone will be able to answer this.
> > > I'm trying to squeeze every last byte out of my Father's ME system. In
> > > Msconfig/Win.ini I find a key named
> > > [TRANTOR_SETUP_PROGRAM_LOADED_TEMPORARY_INFO].
> > > Has this got any reason for existence? Doesn't sound likely, does it.
>
> > > I'll disable it for a test, but still would like to know what it was I
> > > disabled.
> > > Thank you kindly!

This one is probably worth tracking, study and some trial and error.
I thought Trantor was a brand of drive interface, and Mike's
comment about SCSI indicates similar.

That being said, I am concerned with your comment
about these efforts being to squeeze every last BYTE
out of the computer.

If you don't make image backups of the drive you
may find you have done just that but not in a good way.

After making a solid image backup of the drive you
might be better off grabbing the Product Key from
the registry, making notes on the other drivers, and
collecting the newest version (probably last version)
of each driver for WinME.
Particularly for the Motherboard, video card/chip,
audio card/chip, USB card/chip, etc.
Also grab the latest Unofficial Service Pack for ME.
(It's actually still being improved!)

Then using that collection and a clean intact install
set I'd do a clean install of WinME and update basics
like Explorer (to 6).

Then make another image backup at that stage,
with good labels and notes to avoid doing all
of that work again.

Then tweak the system to the way you will USE it,
basic functional programs like firewall, current updated
virus scanning software, etc.. Work on it for
a week or so and make it comfortable, like
when somebody wears the "sweet spot" into
their comfy chair.

An image backup at that point would be handy
if the drive crashes or a virus attack overruns the
antivirus software.

WinME is small enough that you can generally
use hard disks that are cast off, in the range of
between 3 and 8 Gig.

Some smaller junk drives make good homes
for image backups.

Trying to save every last byte was something
that mostly died off when hard disks went
beyond the 1 Gig size range.

It was actually popular on machines that are
long since antiques, where the max memory was
64K not 64 Megabytes and hard disks were
expensive at 5 Megabytes not 500 Gig.

Commonly, when people mess around with
paring down system size it is more of a
pathology than a plan.

One of our Polish confederates tinkering with
Windows ME recently brought some software
from Australia to my attention, and it is probably
the exception to this "paring down" being pathology.

Check out PCLite and 98Lite software their associated
sites with software for lightening up WinME in a more
organized (and useful) fashion.

If you're doing the bit fiddling without image backup
you may as well just take a magnet to it.

 

[Him]

Re: Win.ini: [TRANTOR_SETUP_PROGRAM_LOADED_TEMPORARY_INFO]

It's running fine. The "byte-thing" was just something to sum up my efforts
to optimize the system. MSCONFIG is a good place to do that, and that is
where I found the |TRANTOR...|. As far as I know the motherboard has not been
closer to a SCSI than when bro' walked by a couple of years ago with a Mac.
)

"Greegor" wrote:

> On Oct 11, 2:35 pm, Him <H...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > Thank you, Mike M for the quick reply!
> > I take it you and I've done the same searches. 'Also found hits where, a
> > French site finds it to be a trojan, and Microsoft supplies answers to
> > Trantor/SCSI-models' issues.
> >
> > The following (sub-)lines are:
> > # INSTANCE=9686
> > # TASK=9614
> >
> > I think maybe perhaps my brother once worked for a translation bureau, that
> > might have used a program called Trantor. Because, I do find when googling
> > there is such a program and my bro is a translator. But how the program found
> > its way into win.ini is more than I can say, so I can't confirm that in any
> > way. It's a thought, though.
> >
> > Not yet any misbehaviour after disabling |Trantor...|.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mike M" wrote:
> > > What would perhaps be of interest are the lines that follow this entry up
> > > to the next entry in square brackets. Do you have any unusual hardware
> > > such as a scsi hard drive?
> >
> > > Also ensure that you have scanned your system thoroughly with your AV
> > > application having first updated its reference signatures.
> > > --
> > > Mike Maltby
> > > mike.mal...@gmail.com
> >
> > > Him <H...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > Hello! I doubt anyone will be able to answer this.
> > > > I'm trying to squeeze every last byte out of my Father's ME system. In
> > > > Msconfig/Win.ini I find a key named
> > > > [TRANTOR_SETUP_PROGRAM_LOADED_TEMPORARY_INFO].
> > > > Has this got any reason for existence? Doesn't sound likely, does it.
> >
> > > > I'll disable it for a test, but still would like to know what it was I
> > > > disabled.
> > > > Thank you kindly!
>
> This one is probably worth tracking, study and some trial and error.
> I thought Trantor was a brand of drive interface, and Mike's
> comment about SCSI indicates similar.
>
> That being said, I am concerned with your comment
> about these efforts being to squeeze every last BYTE
> out of the computer.
>
> If you don't make image backups of the drive you
> may find you have done just that but not in a good way.
>
> After making a solid image backup of the drive you
> might be better off grabbing the Product Key from
> the registry, making notes on the other drivers, and
> collecting the newest version (probably last version)
> of each driver for WinME.
> Particularly for the Motherboard, video card/chip,
> audio card/chip, USB card/chip, etc.
> Also grab the latest Unofficial Service Pack for ME.
> (It's actually still being improved!)
>
> Then using that collection and a clean intact install
> set I'd do a clean install of WinME and update basics
> like Explorer (to 6).
>
> Then make another image backup at that stage,
> with good labels and notes to avoid doing all
> of that work again.
>
> Then tweak the system to the way you will USE it,
> basic functional programs like firewall, current updated
> virus scanning software, etc.. Work on it for
> a week or so and make it comfortable, like
> when somebody wears the "sweet spot" into
> their comfy chair.
>
> An image backup at that point would be handy
> if the drive crashes or a virus attack overruns the
> antivirus software.
>
> WinME is small enough that you can generally
> use hard disks that are cast off, in the range of
> between 3 and 8 Gig.
>
> Some smaller junk drives make good homes
> for image backups.
>
> Trying to save every last byte was something
> that mostly died off when hard disks went
> beyond the 1 Gig size range.
>
> It was actually popular on machines that are
> long since antiques, where the max memory was
> 64K not 64 Megabytes and hard disks were
> expensive at 5 Megabytes not 500 Gig.
>
> Commonly, when people mess around with
> paring down system size it is more of a
> pathology than a plan.
>
> One of our Polish confederates tinkering with
> Windows ME recently brought some software
> from Australia to my attention, and it is probably
> the exception to this "paring down" being pathology.
>
> Check out PCLite and 98Lite software their associated
> sites with software for lightening up WinME in a more
> organized (and useful) fashion.
>
> If you're doing the bit fiddling without image backup
> you may as well just take a magnet to it.
>
>

 

[Greegor]

Re: Win.ini: [TRANTOR_SETUP_PROGRAM_LOADED_TEMPORARY_INFO]

You might want to look into the BIOS settings to see
if SCSI is enabled, etc.
That might have caused WinME and a person
to hunt out a driver to stop the complaints.

Are you positive there isn't a SCSI card in the computer?

The drive doesn't prompt the driver to be loaded.
The SCSI chipset or card would.

What happened to your goal of cleaning up the computer?

Is that still your goal? <grin>
You're really looking for a way to trash it irretrievably aren't you.
<grin>


On Oct 11, 5:32 pm, Him <H...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> It's running fine. The "byte-thing" was just something to sum up my efforts
> to optimize the system. MSCONFIG is a good place to do that, and that is
> where I found the |TRANTOR...|. As far as I know the motherboard has not been
> closer to a SCSI than when bro' walked by a couple of years ago with a Mac.
> )
>
>
>
> "Greegor" wrote:
> > On Oct 11, 2:35 pm, Him <H...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > Thank you, Mike M for the quick reply!
> > > I take it you and I've done the same searches. 'Also found hits where, a
> > > French site finds it to be a trojan, and Microsoft supplies answers to
> > > Trantor/SCSI-models' issues.
>
> > > The following (sub-)lines are:
> > > # INSTANCE=9686
> > > # TASK=9614
>
> > > I think maybe perhaps my brother once worked for a translation bureau, that
> > > might have used a program called Trantor. Because, I do find when googling
> > > there is such a program and my bro is a translator. But how the program found
> > > its way into win.ini is more than I can say, so I can't confirm that in any
> > > way. It's a thought, though.
>
> > > Not yet any misbehaviour after disabling |Trantor...|.
>
> > > "Mike M" wrote:
> > > > What would perhaps be of interest are the lines that follow this entry up
> > > > to the next entry in square brackets. Do you have any unusual hardware
> > > > such as a scsi hard drive?
>
> > > > Also ensure that you have scanned your system thoroughly with your AV
> > > > application having first updated its reference signatures.
> > > > --
> > > > Mike Maltby
> > > > mike.mal...@gmail.com
>
> > > > Him <H...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Hello! I doubt anyone will be able to answer this.
> > > > > I'm trying to squeeze every last byte out of my Father's ME system. In
> > > > > Msconfig/Win.ini I find a key named
> > > > > [TRANTOR_SETUP_PROGRAM_LOADED_TEMPORARY_INFO].
> > > > > Has this got any reason for existence? Doesn't sound likely, does it.
>
> > > > > I'll disable it for a test, but still would like to know what it was I
> > > > > disabled.
> > > > > Thank you kindly!




> > This one is probably worth tracking, study and some trial and error.
> > I thought Trantor was a brand of drive interface, and Mike's
> > comment about SCSI indicates similar.
>
> > That being said, I am concerned with your comment
> > about these efforts being to squeeze every last BYTE
> > out of the computer.
>
> > If you don't make image backups of the drive you
> > may find you have done just that but not in a good way.
>
> > After making a solid image backup of the drive you
> > might be better off grabbing the Product Key from
> > the registry, making notes on the other drivers, and
> > collecting the newest version (probably last version)
> > of each driver for WinME.
> > Particularly for the Motherboard, video card/chip,
> > audio card/chip, USB card/chip, etc.
> > Also grab the latest Unofficial Service Pack for ME.
> > (It's actually still being improved!)
>
> > Then using that collection and a clean intact install
> > set I'd do a clean install of WinME and update basics
> > like Explorer (to 6).
>
> > Then make another image backup at that stage,
> > with good labels and notes to avoid doing all
> > of that work again.
>
> > Then tweak the system to the way you will USE it,
> > basic functional programs like firewall, current updated
> > virus scanning software, etc.. Work on it for
> > a week or so and make it comfortable, like
> > when somebody wears the "sweet spot" into
> > their comfy chair.
>
> > An image backup at that point would be handy
> > if the drive crashes or a virus attack overruns the
> > antivirus software.
>
> > WinME is small enough that you can generally
> > use hard disks that are cast off, in the range of
> > between 3 and 8 Gig.
>
> > Some smaller junk drives make good homes
> > for image backups.
>
> > Trying to save every last byte was something
> > that mostly died off when hard disks went
> > beyond the 1 Gig size range.
>
> > It was actually popular on machines that are
> > long since antiques, where the max memory was
> > 64K not 64 Megabytes and hard disks were
> > expensive at 5 Megabytes not 500 Gig.
>
> > Commonly, when people mess around with
> > paring down system size it is more of a
> > pathology than a plan.
>
> > One of our Polish confederates tinkering with
> > Windows ME recently brought some software
> > from Australia to my attention, and it is probably
> > the exception to this "paring down" being pathology.
>
> > Check out PCLite and 98Lite software their associated
> > sites with software for lightening up WinME in a more
> > organized (and useful) fashion.
>
> > If you're doing the bit fiddling without image backup
> > you may as well just take a magnet to it.

 

[Him]

Re: Win.ini: [TRANTOR_SETUP_PROGRAM_LOADED_TEMPORARY_INFO]

Don't worry about my skills. I have irrevertibly crashed systems several
times...

Please gals and guys, if using Google is the only merit you can come up
with, don't waste people's time.
Except for that, I thank you both for trying to help.

For other users of ME, you don't have to do anything but run Msconfig
occassionally, and have a look under Autostart and Win.ini. Like me, you
might find unexpected things. Try to find out what they are. The best
performance gain, however, is to disable ActiveDesktop, or if you have
something like QuickTime or RealPlayer starting with Windows.

"Greegor" wrote:

> You might want to look into the BIOS settings to see
> if SCSI is enabled, etc.
> That might have caused WinME and a person
> to hunt out a driver to stop the complaints.
>
> Are you positive there isn't a SCSI card in the computer?
>
> The drive doesn't prompt the driver to be loaded.
> The SCSI chipset or card would.
>
> What happened to your goal of cleaning up the computer?
>
> Is that still your goal? <grin>
> You're really looking for a way to trash it irretrievably aren't you.
> <grin>
>
>
> On Oct 11, 5:32 pm, Him <H...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > It's running fine. The "byte-thing" was just something to sum up my efforts
> > to optimize the system. MSCONFIG is a good place to do that, and that is
> > where I found the |TRANTOR...|. As far as I know the motherboard has not been
> > closer to a SCSI than when bro' walked by a couple of years ago with a Mac.
> > )
> >
> >
> >
> > "Greegor" wrote:
> > > On Oct 11, 2:35 pm, Him <H...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > > Thank you, Mike M for the quick reply!
> > > > I take it you and I've done the same searches. 'Also found hits where, a
> > > > French site finds it to be a trojan, and Microsoft supplies answers to
> > > > Trantor/SCSI-models' issues.
> >
> > > > The following (sub-)lines are:
> > > > # INSTANCE=9686
> > > > # TASK=9614
> >
> > > > I think maybe perhaps my brother once worked for a translation bureau, that
> > > > might have used a program called Trantor. Because, I do find when googling
> > > > there is such a program and my bro is a translator. But how the program found
> > > > its way into win.ini is more than I can say, so I can't confirm that in any
> > > > way. It's a thought, though.
> >
> > > > Not yet any misbehaviour after disabling |Trantor...|.
> >
> > > > "Mike M" wrote:
> > > > > What would perhaps be of interest are the lines that follow this entry up
> > > > > to the next entry in square brackets. Do you have any unusual hardware
> > > > > such as a scsi hard drive?
> >
> > > > > Also ensure that you have scanned your system thoroughly with your AV
> > > > > application having first updated its reference signatures.
> > > > > --
> > > > > Mike Maltby
> > > > > mike.mal...@gmail.com
> >
> > > > > Him <H...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > Hello! I doubt anyone will be able to answer this.
> > > > > > I'm trying to squeeze every last byte out of my Father's ME system. In
> > > > > > Msconfig/Win.ini I find a key named
> > > > > > [TRANTOR_SETUP_PROGRAM_LOADED_TEMPORARY_INFO].
> > > > > > Has this got any reason for existence? Doesn't sound likely, does it.
> >
> > > > > > I'll disable it for a test, but still would like to know what it was I
> > > > > > disabled.
> > > > > > Thank you kindly!
>
>
>
>
> > > This one is probably worth tracking, study and some trial and error.
> > > I thought Trantor was a brand of drive interface, and Mike's
> > > comment about SCSI indicates similar.
> >
> > > That being said, I am concerned with your comment
> > > about these efforts being to squeeze every last BYTE
> > > out of the computer.
> >
> > > If you don't make image backups of the drive you
> > > may find you have done just that but not in a good way.
> >
> > > After making a solid image backup of the drive you
> > > might be better off grabbing the Product Key from
> > > the registry, making notes on the other drivers, and
> > > collecting the newest version (probably last version)
> > > of each driver for WinME.
> > > Particularly for the Motherboard, video card/chip,
> > > audio card/chip, USB card/chip, etc.
> > > Also grab the latest Unofficial Service Pack for ME.
> > > (It's actually still being improved!)
> >
> > > Then using that collection and a clean intact install
> > > set I'd do a clean install of WinME and update basics
> > > like Explorer (to 6).
> >
> > > Then make another image backup at that stage,
> > > with good labels and notes to avoid doing all
> > > of that work again.
> >
> > > Then tweak the system to the way you will USE it,
> > > basic functional programs like firewall, current updated
> > > virus scanning software, etc.. Work on it for
> > > a week or so and make it comfortable, like
> > > when somebody wears the "sweet spot" into
> > > their comfy chair.
> >
> > > An image backup at that point would be handy
> > > if the drive crashes or a virus attack overruns the
> > > antivirus software.
> >
> > > WinME is small enough that you can generally
> > > use hard disks that are cast off, in the range of
> > > between 3 and 8 Gig.
> >
> > > Some smaller junk drives make good homes
> > > for image backups.
> >
> > > Trying to save every last byte was something
> > > that mostly died off when hard disks went
> > > beyond the 1 Gig size range.
> >
> > > It was actually popular on machines that are
> > > long since antiques, where the max memory was
> > > 64K not 64 Megabytes and hard disks were
> > > expensive at 5 Megabytes not 500 Gig.
> >
> > > Commonly, when people mess around with
> > > paring down system size it is more of a
> > > pathology than a plan.
> >
> > > One of our Polish confederates tinkering with
> > > Windows ME recently brought some software
> > > from Australia to my attention, and it is probably
> > > the exception to this "paring down" being pathology.
> >
> > > Check out PCLite and 98Lite software their associated
> > > sites with software for lightening up WinME in a more
> > > organized (and useful) fashion.
> >
> > > If you're doing the bit fiddling without image backup
> > > you may as well just take a magnet to it.
>
>