Scanreg /fix /opt

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First off, thanks to PCR for this little gem! I knew about scanreg /opt, but
did not know about the /fix switch option. Does typing both /fix and /opt
after scanreg in DOS compact the registry AND optomize (defrag) it? How
about using only scanreg /fix. And why, PCR, did you suggest on another
thread to repeat the scanreg atleast twice more?

Next, I understand that a registry greater than 8MB cannot be
fixed/optomized with this DOS command. My SYSTEM.DAT and USER.DAT files
together are just over 8MB (although the Windows DOS scanreg utility reported
that it successfully fixed the registry - took about 10 - 15 minutes). What
about an external app to fix/optomize/defrag the registry? Is there a need
and which ones are good?

Lastly, what is the maximum registry size for Windows 98 SE?
 
Re: Scanreg /fix /opt

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/msg/576b1b7e74f04627

http://users.iafrica.com/c/cq/cquirke/registry.htm

I'm told that Windows may have trouble loading the Registry files over 11MB in size.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+


"Paradoxdb3" <Paradoxdb3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:28CAD512-5735-42C2-849E-3E6CAEA4EAF9@microsoft.com...
> First off, thanks to PCR for this little gem! I knew about scanreg /opt, but
> did not know about the /fix switch option. Does typing both /fix and /opt
> after scanreg in DOS compact the registry AND optomize (defrag) it? How
> about using only scanreg /fix. And why, PCR, did you suggest on another
> thread to repeat the scanreg atleast twice more?
>
> Next, I understand that a registry greater than 8MB cannot be
> fixed/optomized with this DOS command. My SYSTEM.DAT and USER.DAT files
> together are just over 8MB (although the Windows DOS scanreg utility reported
> that it successfully fixed the registry - took about 10 - 15 minutes). What
> about an external app to fix/optomize/defrag the registry? Is there a need
> and which ones are good?
>
> Lastly, what is the maximum registry size for Windows 98 SE?
 
Re: Scanreg /fix /opt

Paradoxdb3 wrote:
| First off, thanks to PCR for this little gem! I knew about scanreg
| /opt, but did not know about the /fix switch option.

You are welcome. I probably picked it up here too at this NG.

| Does typing
| both /fix and /opt after scanreg in DOS compact the registry AND
| optomize (defrag) it? How about using only scanreg /fix.

/Opt is so quick, it probably is senseless to omit it, though some say
/Fix will do both. I see, by Terhune's word (& I couldn't recall Brian
A. said the same), you should end with a /Fix...

(1) "START button, Shut Down, Restart in MS-DOS Mode"
(2) ScanReg /Opt /Fix
(Do step 2 twice more.)

| And why,
| PCR, did you suggest on another thread to repeat the scanreg atleast
| twice more?

An MVP once did mention he was told by an MS person to do it thrice. My
own experimentation confirms that sometimes indeed the Registry will
continue to shrink up to the 3rd time in a row. (And sometimes it will
not.)

DIR C:\Windows\System.dat /a
DIR C:\Windows\User.dat /a

...., before & after each ScanReg to see. Here are my current sizes...

SYSTEM DAT 5,378,080 11-11-07 8:45p SYSTEM.DAT
USER DAT 684,064 11-11-07 9:01p USER.DAT

| Next, I understand that a registry greater than 8MB cannot be
| fixed/optomized with this DOS command. My SYSTEM.DAT and USER.DAT
| files together are just over 8MB (although the Windows DOS scanreg
| utility reported that it successfully fixed the registry - took about
| 10 - 15 minutes).

That sounds about right. There is no precise figure that is too large,
but sounds like you are getting too close for comfort. Still, I believe
it is Badour who says he had one that still would /Fix at 11 MB!

| What about an external app to fix/optomize/defrag
| the registry? Is there a need and which ones are good?

I see cquirke never knew of anything but RegEdit & ScanReg for that, (&
neither do I).

| Lastly, what is the maximum registry size for Windows 98 SE?

I don't know, & it would be nutty to try & reach it.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
Re: Scanreg /fix /opt

PCR wrote:
| Paradoxdb3 wrote:
|| First off, thanks to PCR for this little gem! I knew about scanreg
|| /opt, but did not know about the /fix switch option.
|
| You are welcome. I probably picked it up here too at this NG.
|
|| Does typing
|| both /fix and /opt after scanreg in DOS compact the registry AND
|| optomize (defrag) it? How about using only scanreg /fix.
|
| /Opt is so quick, it probably is senseless to omit it, though some say
| /Fix will do both. I see, by Terhune's word (& I couldn't recall Brian
| A. said the same), you should end with a /Fix...
|
| (1) "START button, Shut Down, Restart in MS-DOS Mode"
| (2) ScanReg /Opt /Fix
| (Do step 2 twice more.)

UPDATE: Ooops, NOW I have found an article that says to do it the other
way...!...

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/302853/en-us
You receive an “Error 1402. Could not open key: <key name>. System error
1009” error message when you turn on User Profiles in Office XP Setup on
Windows 98 or Windows Millennium Edition

.........Quote..................
For Windows 98
1. Restart the computer, press and hold down CTRL until the
Windows 98 Startup menu appears, and then choose
Command prompt only.
2. At the command prompt, type scanreg /fix and then press ENTER.
3. After the Registry Checker tool finishes repairing the registry,
press ENTER.
4. At the command prompt, type scanreg /opt and then press ENTER.
NOTE: The /opt command-line switch causes the Registry Checker
tool to optimize the registry by removing unused space.
5. Restart the computer.
.........EOQ....................

Make of it what you will!

|| And why,
|| PCR, did you suggest on another thread to repeat the scanreg atleast
|| twice more?
|
| An MVP once did mention he was told by an MS person to do it thrice.
| My own experimentation confirms that sometimes indeed the Registry
| will continue to shrink up to the 3rd time in a row. (And sometimes
| it will not.)
|
| DIR C:\Windows\System.dat /a
| DIR C:\Windows\User.dat /a
|
| ..., before & after each ScanReg to see. Here are my current sizes...
|
| SYSTEM DAT 5,378,080 11-11-07 8:45p SYSTEM.DAT
| USER DAT 684,064 11-11-07 9:01p USER.DAT
|
|| Next, I understand that a registry greater than 8MB cannot be
|| fixed/optomized with this DOS command. My SYSTEM.DAT and USER.DAT
|| files together are just over 8MB (although the Windows DOS scanreg
|| utility reported that it successfully fixed the registry - took about
|| 10 - 15 minutes).
|
| That sounds about right. There is no precise figure that is too large,
| but sounds like you are getting too close for comfort. Still, I
| believe it is Badour who says he had one that still would /Fix at 11
| MB!
|
|| What about an external app to fix/optomize/defrag
|| the registry? Is there a need and which ones are good?
|
| I see cquirke never knew of anything but RegEdit & ScanReg for that,
| (& neither do I).
|
|| Lastly, what is the maximum registry size for Windows 98 SE?
|
| I don't know, & it would be nutty to try & reach it.
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| Should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| pcrrcp@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
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