Slow startup due to Windows splash screen appearing during POST

[Ray K]

When the POST first starts, various BIOS settings are displayed. Then
the Windows splash screen appears for about five seconds. After that,
the remaining portions of the POST appear before the computer gets to
the desktop.

I may have inadvertently caused this problem when changing various
settings by using the FreshUI tweak program. (Not a fault of the
program.) Any ideas for removing the splash screen during POST so
startup goes faster?

Thanks,

Ray

 

[Mike M]

Re: Slow startup due to Windows splash screen appearing during POST

Removing the splash screen won't make the PC boot any faster however it is
easily removed by editing msdos.sys and adding the line
Logo=0
to the section [Options]

The length of time the splash is displayed is dependent on the loading of
the appropriate video code page for your settings, it's not as if the
actual load has stopped whilst the splash is displayed. When/If the code
page changes the splash is removed and you see instead the POST output.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Ray K <raykosXXX@optonline.net> wrote:

> When the POST first starts, various BIOS settings are displayed. Then
> the Windows splash screen appears for about five seconds. After that,
> the remaining portions of the POST appear before the computer gets to
> the desktop.
>
> I may have inadvertently caused this problem when changing various
> settings by using the FreshUI tweak program. (Not a fault of the
> program.) Any ideas for removing the splash screen during POST so
> startup goes faster?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ray

 

[Ray K]

Re: Slow startup due to Windows splash screen appearing during POST

Mike M wrote:
> Removing the splash screen won't make the PC boot any faster however it
> is easily removed by editing msdos.sys and adding the line
> Logo=0
> to the section [Options]
>
> The length of time the splash is displayed is dependent on the loading
> of the appropriate video code page for your settings, it's not as if the
> actual load has stopped whilst the splash is displayed. When/If the
> code page changes the splash is removed and you see instead the POST
> output.

Thanks, Mike. I'll try it tomorrow when I'm back at that computer.

Ray

 

[Ray K]

Re: Slow startup due to Windows splash screen appearing during POST

Ray K wrote:
> Mike M wrote:
>> Removing the splash screen won't make the PC boot any faster however
>> it is easily removed by editing msdos.sys and adding the line
>> Logo=0
>> to the section [Options]
>>
>> The length of time the splash is displayed is dependent on the loading
>> of the appropriate video code page for your settings, it's not as if
>> the actual load has stopped whilst the splash is displayed. When/If
>> the code page changes the splash is removed and you see instead the
>> POST output.
>
> Thanks, Mike. I'll try it tomorrow when I'm back at that computer.
>
> Ray

Mike,

My girlfriend, who owns the ME computer, thinks it takes longer to start
these days that it did last week when I made some tweaks using FreshUI.
Aside from the splash screen, are there other things I could have done
out of ignorance that would slow the startup? I don't know how many more
seconds it takes.

Ray

 

[Mike M]

Re: Slow startup due to Windows splash screen appearing during POST

Ray K <raykosXXX@optonline.net> wrote:

> My girlfriend, who owns the ME computer, thinks it takes longer to
> start these days that it did last week when I made some tweaks using
> FreshUI. Aside from the splash screen, are there other things I could
> have done out of ignorance that would slow the startup? I don't know
> how many more seconds it takes.

Splash screen - adds perhaps 1ms to boot time
Other tweaks - loads of possibilities.

Without details as to the changes I have nothing to suggest other than
perhaps undoing the lot and returning the system to the state it was in
before you used FreshUI. You can do this by using System Restore to
return to a checkpoint created prior to when you made the changes.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com

 

[Ray K]

Re: Slow startup due to Windows splash screen appearing during POST

Mike M wrote:
> Ray K <raykosXXX@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>> My girlfriend, who owns the ME computer, thinks it takes longer to
>> start these days that it did last week when I made some tweaks using
>> FreshUI. Aside from the splash screen, are there other things I could
>> have done out of ignorance that would slow the startup? I don't know
>> how many more seconds it takes.
>
> Splash screen - adds perhaps 1ms to boot time
> Other tweaks - loads of possibilities.
>
> Without details as to the changes I have nothing to suggest other than
> perhaps undoing the lot and returning the system to the state it was in
> before you used FreshUI. You can do this by using System Restore to
> return to a checkpoint created prior to when you made the changes.

I (foolishly) never created a System Restore, so unless the checkpoint
was created automatically, I can't backtrack.

Whoops, now that I examine FreshUI, it does have a Restore Windows
setting option than reverses my "improvements." So I'll try that.

Thanks,

Ray

 

[Heirloom]

Re: Slow startup due to Windows splash screen appearing during POST

If the system is functioning properly, you should have 'auto' Restore Points
created each time you successfully boot or for every 10 hours of up time.
(IIRC) Easy enough to find out, open System Restore from Accessories/System
Tools and see if there are any restore points.
Heirloom, old and in bad need of restoration

"Ray K" <raykosXXX@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:fFEZi.135$wq1.84@newsfe08.lga...
> Mike M wrote:
>> Ray K <raykosXXX@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>>> My girlfriend, who owns the ME computer, thinks it takes longer to
>>> start these days that it did last week when I made some tweaks using
>>> FreshUI. Aside from the splash screen, are there other things I could
>>> have done out of ignorance that would slow the startup? I don't know
>>> how many more seconds it takes.
>>
>> Splash screen - adds perhaps 1ms to boot time
>> Other tweaks - loads of possibilities.
>>
>> Without details as to the changes I have nothing to suggest other than
>> perhaps undoing the lot and returning the system to the state it was in
>> before you used FreshUI. You can do this by using System Restore to
>> return to a checkpoint created prior to when you made the changes.
>
> I (foolishly) never created a System Restore, so unless the checkpoint was
> created automatically, I can't backtrack.
>
> Whoops, now that I examine FreshUI, it does have a Restore Windows setting
> option than reverses my "improvements." So I'll try that.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ray

 

[Mike M]

Re: Slow startup due to Windows splash screen appearing during POST

Heirloom <nobodyhome@noplacelike.hom> wrote:

> If the system is functioning properly, you should have 'auto' Restore
> Points created each time you successfully boot or for every 10 hours
> of up time. (IIRC) Easy enough to find out, open System Restore from
> Accessories/System Tools and see if there are any restore points.
> Heirloom, old and in bad need of
> restoration

Thanks H. Just what I would have said!
--
Mike - who is also very much in need of some major restoration!

 

[Ray K]

Re: Slow startup due to Windows splash screen appearing during POST

Mike M wrote:
> Heirloom <nobodyhome@noplacelike.hom> wrote:
>
>> If the system is functioning properly, you should have 'auto' Restore
>> Points created each time you successfully boot or for every 10 hours
>> of up time. (IIRC) Easy enough to find out, open System Restore from
>> Accessories/System Tools and see if there are any restore points.
>> Heirloom, old and in bad need of
>> restoration
>
> Thanks H. Just what I would have said!

Thanks Mike and Heirloom. Too bad I can't view newsgroups from my g/f's
computer so I can try your suggestions immediately. But I can't open
Outlook Express because certain installation files are missing and
require that I put an ME disc into the computer. Problem is, she doesn't
have one, and the independent store I bought her computer from says they
don't have one any more. Maybe some other local mom and pop store can
help me.

Mike's suggestion for removing the splash screen worked. Here are some
timing measurements, with time=0 being when I release the power button:

Case 1. When I started this thread, with the splash screen appearing in
the middle of the POST:
a. First appearance of splash screen: 13 seconds
b. Disappearance splash screen: 22 seconds
c. End of POST: 32 seconds (desktop shows just background color; no
icons or start bar across bottom of screen
d. Fully booted: 55 seconds (desktop with all icons and no hourglass)

Case 2. Modified msdos.sys to remove splash screen:
a. Not applicable
b. Not applicable
c. End of POST: 29 seconds (splash screen ate up four seconds)
d. Fully booted: 51 seconds

Case 3. Used FreshIU's Restore Windows settings to remove my changes:
a. Not applicable
b. Not applicable
c. End of POST: 28 seconds (might also have been 29 seconds)
d. Fully booted: 57 seconds

So my tweaks shortened startup time about six seconds.

My g/f's computer runs about 900 MHz with 256MB of RAM. A single 40 GB
hard drive (should be in DMA mode). No programs are launched at startup.
The BIOS is set to boot from the c: drive, so no time wasted looking
elsewhere.

Mike and/or Heirloom: How long does it take your computer to a)complete
POST and b)reach the desktop?

Ray

 

[Mike M]

Re: Slow startup due to Windows splash screen appearing during POST

Ray,

Regardless of your measurements displaying the splash screen adds nothing
more than maybe a millisecond, if that. to the initial boot time for a Win
Me system. That the splash screen disappeared after 9 seconds simply
tells you that at that point the loader was moving to the next stage and
needed to clear video memory. Loading of the OS doesn't stop when the
splash is displayed. Due to a bug for most European locales the splash
screen lasts for just a few milliseconds until the local code page is
loaded, for those with US settings the splash lasts longer as the initial
code page loaded is used throughout.

> Mike and/or Heirloom: How long does it take your computer to
> a)complete POST

This is hardware/bios dependent and has nothing to do with the operating
system in use.

and b)reach the desktop?

Again this will vary from one PC to another and is dependent upon the
hardware involved and the drivers being loaded by the operating system.

> But I can't
> open Outlook Express because certain installation files are missing

This suggests that you may have other problems which you have yet to touch
on including how and why these files were removed. Only a poorly
configured system asks for the Win Me CD, all the required installation
(cab) files should be present on the system in either the
C:\Windows\Options\Install or C:\Windows\Options\Cabs folder - which
depends on the initial install media, Microsoft retail media uses the
"install" folder and OEM media the "cabs" folder. When asked for the Win
Me CD point it at whichever of these two folders contains the file
BASE2.CAB. Better, permanently fix the problem by setting the data for
the value SourcePath at the key
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup to
point to this folder. You can do this by either using Regedit or a
utility such as TweakUI (Special Folders | Installation Path on the My
Computer tab). The version of TweakUI to use with Win Me is v1.33.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Ray K <raykosXXX@optonline.net> wrote:

> Thanks Mike and Heirloom. Too bad I can't view newsgroups from my
> g/f's computer so I can try your suggestions immediately. But I can't
> open Outlook Express because certain installation files are missing
> and require that I put an ME disc into the computer. Problem is, she
> doesn't have one, and the independent store I bought her computer
> from says they don't have one any more. Maybe some other local mom
> and pop store can help me.
>
> Mike's suggestion for removing the splash screen worked. Here are some
> timing measurements, with time=0 being when I release the power
> button:
> Case 1. When I started this thread, with the splash screen appearing
> in the middle of the POST:
> a. First appearance of splash screen: 13 seconds
> b. Disappearance splash screen: 22 seconds
> c. End of POST: 32 seconds (desktop shows just background color; no
> icons or start bar across bottom of screen
> d. Fully booted: 55 seconds (desktop with all icons and no hourglass)
>
> Case 2. Modified msdos.sys to remove splash screen:
> a. Not applicable
> b. Not applicable
> c. End of POST: 29 seconds (splash screen ate up four seconds)
> d. Fully booted: 51 seconds
>
> Case 3. Used FreshIU's Restore Windows settings to remove my changes:
> a. Not applicable
> b. Not applicable
> c. End of POST: 28 seconds (might also have been 29 seconds)
> d. Fully booted: 57 seconds
>
> So my tweaks shortened startup time about six seconds.
>
> My g/f's computer runs about 900 MHz with 256MB of RAM. A single 40 GB
> hard drive (should be in DMA mode). No programs are launched at
> startup. The BIOS is set to boot from the c: drive, so no time wasted
> looking elsewhere.
>
> Mike and/or Heirloom: How long does it take your computer to
> a)complete POST and b)reach the desktop?
>
> Ray

 

[Heirloom]

Re: Slow startup due to Windows splash screen appearing during POST

Mine would not be relevant as I am using XP SP2, however, Mike does have an
Me box. You should probably concentrate more on what you have in your
startup axis. A good viewer like Process Explorer (free application from
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/default.mspx ) will give you
details on what is run at boot. It will also tell you how much cpu is being
utilized (in %) by each application. It has a LOT of other capabilities,
many of which you will probably never use, but, it is quite small and draws
little cpu when in use. I really think you will gain more from trimming
your startup axis of needless apps than anything else. If there is an app
you are unsure of, this site may help to determine its' need:
http://www.processlibrary.com/ also,
http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_index.htm . Let us know how you
fare.......
Heirloom, old and must seek sustenance

"Ray K" <raykosXXX@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:tHZZi.25$VK.21@newsfe09.lga...
> Mike M wrote:
>> Heirloom <nobodyhome@noplacelike.hom> wrote:
>>
>>> If the system is functioning properly, you should have 'auto' Restore
>>> Points created each time you successfully boot or for every 10 hours
>>> of up time. (IIRC) Easy enough to find out, open System Restore from
>>> Accessories/System Tools and see if there are any restore points.
>>> Heirloom, old and in bad need of
>>> restoration
>>
>> Thanks H. Just what I would have said!
>
> Thanks Mike and Heirloom. Too bad I can't view newsgroups from my g/f's
> computer so I can try your suggestions immediately. But I can't open
> Outlook Express because certain installation files are missing and require
> that I put an ME disc into the computer. Problem is, she doesn't have one,
> and the independent store I bought her computer from says they don't have
> one any more. Maybe some other local mom and pop store can help me.
>
> Mike's suggestion for removing the splash screen worked. Here are some
> timing measurements, with time=0 being when I release the power button:
>
> Case 1. When I started this thread, with the splash screen appearing in
> the middle of the POST:
> a. First appearance of splash screen: 13 seconds
> b. Disappearance splash screen: 22 seconds
> c. End of POST: 32 seconds (desktop shows just background color; no icons
> or start bar across bottom of screen
> d. Fully booted: 55 seconds (desktop with all icons and no hourglass)
>
> Case 2. Modified msdos.sys to remove splash screen:
> a. Not applicable
> b. Not applicable
> c. End of POST: 29 seconds (splash screen ate up four seconds)
> d. Fully booted: 51 seconds
>
> Case 3. Used FreshIU's Restore Windows settings to remove my changes:
> a. Not applicable
> b. Not applicable
> c. End of POST: 28 seconds (might also have been 29 seconds)
> d. Fully booted: 57 seconds
>
> So my tweaks shortened startup time about six seconds.
>
> My g/f's computer runs about 900 MHz with 256MB of RAM. A single 40 GB
> hard drive (should be in DMA mode). No programs are launched at startup.
> The BIOS is set to boot from the c: drive, so no time wasted looking
> elsewhere.
>
> Mike and/or Heirloom: How long does it take your computer to a)complete
> POST and b)reach the desktop?
>
> Ray
>

 

[Dapper Dan]

Re: Slow startup due to Windows splash screen appearing during POST

Ray

You say "no programs are launched at startup".

Try START/ type MSCONFIG and then click on the STARTUP folder. What's
listed?

Dan

"Ray K" <raykosXXX@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:tHZZi.25$VK.21@newsfe09.lga...
> Mike M wrote:
>> Heirloom <nobodyhome@noplacelike.hom> wrote:
>>
>>> If the system is functioning properly, you should have 'auto' Restore
>>> Points created each time you successfully boot or for every 10 hours
>>> of up time. (IIRC) Easy enough to find out, open System Restore from
>>> Accessories/System Tools and see if there are any restore points.
>>> Heirloom, old and in bad need of
>>> restoration
>>
>> Thanks H. Just what I would have said!
>
> Thanks Mike and Heirloom. Too bad I can't view newsgroups from my g/f's
> computer so I can try your suggestions immediately. But I can't open
> Outlook Express because certain installation files are missing and require
> that I put an ME disc into the computer. Problem is, she doesn't have one,
> and the independent store I bought her computer from says they don't have
> one any more. Maybe some other local mom and pop store can help me.
>
> Mike's suggestion for removing the splash screen worked. Here are some
> timing measurements, with time=0 being when I release the power button:
>
> Case 1. When I started this thread, with the splash screen appearing in
> the middle of the POST:
> a. First appearance of splash screen: 13 seconds
> b. Disappearance splash screen: 22 seconds
> c. End of POST: 32 seconds (desktop shows just background color; no icons
> or start bar across bottom of screen
> d. Fully booted: 55 seconds (desktop with all icons and no hourglass)
>
> Case 2. Modified msdos.sys to remove splash screen:
> a. Not applicable
> b. Not applicable
> c. End of POST: 29 seconds (splash screen ate up four seconds)
> d. Fully booted: 51 seconds
>
> Case 3. Used FreshIU's Restore Windows settings to remove my changes:
> a. Not applicable
> b. Not applicable
> c. End of POST: 28 seconds (might also have been 29 seconds)
> d. Fully booted: 57 seconds
>
> So my tweaks shortened startup time about six seconds.
>
> My g/f's computer runs about 900 MHz with 256MB of RAM. A single 40 GB
> hard drive (should be in DMA mode). No programs are launched at startup.
> The BIOS is set to boot from the c: drive, so no time wasted looking
> elsewhere.
>
> Mike and/or Heirloom: How long does it take your computer to a)complete
> POST and b)reach the desktop?
>
> Ray
>

 

[Mike M]

Re: Slow startup due to Windows splash screen appearing during POST

Dapper Dan <dapperdan@home.com> wrote:

> You say "no programs are launched at startup".
>
> Try START/ type MSCONFIG and then click on the STARTUP folder. What's
> listed?

And if he has unchecked some of the entries placed there by Microsoft then
I feel he is inviting problems. Most, but admittedly not all, are there
for the benefit of the system with the only one placed there by Microsoft
that I consider to be totally useless being the PCHealth entry. Removing
the PowerProfile entries saves maybe a microsecond for little or no
benefit however removing the ScanRegistry and Stmgr* entries together with
the KB891711 and KB918547 entries is I feel at the very least extremely
foolish. I would also hope that a third party AV application is being
launched.

Ray should note that to remove the PCHealth entry and to keep it removed
requires not only
unchecking the entry in MSConfig | Startup but also removing the
associated Task entry.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com

 

[Ray K]

Re: Slow startup due to Windows splash screen appearing during POST

Dapper Dan wrote:
> Ray
>
> You say "no programs are launched at startup".
>
> Try START/ type MSCONFIG and then click on the STARTUP folder. What's
> listed?
>
> Dan

I meant no applications (not even the web browser) or TSR utilities are
launched that would greatly increase boot time. The desktop shows about
10 icons and a background picture on a solid blue background.

 

[Ray K]

Re: Slow startup due to Windows splash screen appearing during POST

Mike M wrote:

>> But I can't
>> open Outlook Express because certain installation files are missing
>
> This suggests that you may have other problems which you have yet to
> touch on including how and why these files were removed.

That's true. See my post in this NG of 10/29/07, 11:29 PM for one
example. My post in microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general of 11/03/07,
2:54PM,describes the "missing" files I need to install Outlook Express.
Even when I located found other sources of those files, and moved them
into the c:\progra~1\common~1\AOL\ACS folder, I still couldn't install
OE. That's when I was asked to intall the ME disc.

I'm trying to get an ME disc hoping that it has a repair option. I think
something is wrong with the present installation that prevents me from
viewing pictures in the Kodak Gallery and installing Outlook Express.

Tonight I'll check the version of QuickTime, as Heirloom suggested on 10/29.

Thanks to all.

Ray

Only a poorly
> configured system asks for the Win Me CD, all the required installation
> (cab) files should be present on the system in either the
> C:\Windows\Options\Install or C:\Windows\Options\Cabs folder - which
> depends on the initial install media, Microsoft retail media uses the
> "install" folder and OEM media the "cabs" folder. When asked for the
> Win Me CD point it at whichever of these two folders contains the file
> BASE2.CAB. Better, permanently fix the problem by setting the data for
> the value SourcePath at the key
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup to
> point to this folder. You can do this by either using Regedit or a
> utility such as TweakUI (Special Folders | Installation Path on the My
> Computer tab). The version of TweakUI to use with Win Me is v1.33.

 

[Dapper Dan]

Re: Slow startup due to Windows splash screen appearing during POST

OK but what's checked in the STARTUP? Unnecessary programs will delay the
startup process.


"Ray K" <raykosXXX@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> Dapper Dan wrote:
>> Ray
>>
>> You say "no programs are launched at startup".
>>
>> Try START/ type MSCONFIG and then click on the STARTUP folder. What's
>> listed?
>>
>> Dan
>
> I meant no applications (not even the web browser) or TSR utilities are
> launched that would greatly increase boot time. The desktop shows about 10
> icons and a background picture on a solid blue background.

 

[Mike M]

Re: Slow startup due to Windows splash screen appearing during POST

> Outlook Express. Even when I located found other sources of those
> files, and moved them into the c:\progra~1\common~1\AOL\ACS folder,

No files used by Outlook Express live in an AOL folder. This folder will
contain AOL software not operating system files. The files used by
Outlook Express can be found in C:\Program Files\Outlook Express and
C:\Windows\System.

> I'm trying to get an ME disc hoping that it has a repair option.

It seems I may have wasted my time telling you where to find the Win Me
setup files. These are exactly the same files as found in the Win9x
folder on a Win Me CD.

> Tonight I'll check the version of QuickTime, as Heirloom suggested on
> 10/29.

I am unclear as to the connection between that comment and this thread.
Heirloom's comment was in connection with your saying that you were unable
to view a slideshow on the net.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com



Ray K <raykosXXX@optonline.net> wrote:

> Mike M wrote:
>
>>> But I can't
>>> open Outlook Express because certain installation files are missing
>>
>> This suggests that you may have other problems which you have yet to
>> touch on including how and why these files were removed.
>
> That's true. See my post in this NG of 10/29/07, 11:29 PM for one
> example. My post in microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general of
> 11/03/07, 2:54PM,describes the "missing" files I need to install
> Outlook Express. Even when I located found other sources of those
> files, and moved them into the c:\progra~1\common~1\AOL\ACS folder, I
> still couldn't install
> OE. That's when I was asked to intall the ME disc.
>
> I'm trying to get an ME disc hoping that it has a repair option. I
> think something is wrong with the present installation that prevents
> me from viewing pictures in the Kodak Gallery and installing Outlook
> Express.
> Tonight I'll check the version of QuickTime, as Heirloom suggested on
> 10/29.

 

[George Gee]

Re: Slow startup due to Windows splash screen appearing during POST

Dapper Dan

Perhaps your instruction:
'Try START/ type MSCONFIG and then click on the STARTUP folder.'

Should read:
Try START/*Run* type MSCONFIG and then click on the STARTUP *Tab*.

George Gee

"Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
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> OK but what's checked in the STARTUP? Unnecessary programs will delay the
> startup process.
>
>
> "Ray K" <raykosXXX@optonline.net> wrote in message
> newsN2_i.5802$jd6.1287@newsfe08.lga...
>> Dapper Dan wrote:
>>> Ray
>>>
>>> You say "no programs are launched at startup".
>>>
>>> Try START/ type MSCONFIG and then click on the STARTUP folder. What's
>>> listed?
>>>
>>> Dan
>>
>> I meant no applications (not even the web browser) or TSR utilities are
>> launched that would greatly increase boot time. The desktop shows about
>> 10 icons and a background picture on a solid blue background.
>
>

 

[Joan Archer]

Re: Slow startup due to Windows splash screen appearing during POST

I still have a WinME machine in use here but to be honest I have no idea
how long it takes before getting to the desktop.

All three machines here which are 2 Windows XP and the 1 WinME, are turned
on each morning by whoever gets up first and then left to get on with it
while going about doing the normal morning routines by which time they are
all ready to be used for whatever is needed of them <g>
Joan

Ray K wrote:
>snip>
> Mike and/or Heirloom: How long does it take your computer to
> a)complete POST and b)reach the desktop?
>
> Ray

 

[Dapper Dan]

Re: Slow startup due to Windows splash screen appearing during POST

Good catch George. I was going by memory and obviously it's not what it used
to be.

Thanks for pointing it out.

Dan
"George Gee" <georgegee@nomaps.com> wrote in message
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> Dapper Dan
>
> Perhaps your instruction:
> 'Try START/ type MSCONFIG and then click on the STARTUP folder.'
>
> Should read:
> Try START/*Run* type MSCONFIG and then click on the STARTUP *Tab*.
>
> George Gee
>
> "Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
> news:ePnwH6WJIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> OK but what's checked in the STARTUP? Unnecessary programs will delay the
>> startup process.
>>
>>
>> "Ray K" <raykosXXX@optonline.net> wrote in message
>> newsN2_i.5802$jd6.1287@newsfe08.lga...
>>> Dapper Dan wrote:
>>>> Ray
>>>>
>>>> You say "no programs are launched at startup".
>>>>
>>>> Try START/ type MSCONFIG and then click on the STARTUP folder. What's
>>>> listed?
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>
>>> I meant no applications (not even the web browser) or TSR utilities are
>>> launched that would greatly increase boot time. The desktop shows about
>>> 10 icons and a background picture on a solid blue background.
>>
>>
>
>