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This is about the best way to describe my experience with Vista: it simply
sucks!

I downloaded my copy as soon as Vista was posted on MSDN. Tried to upgrade
my XP (twice!) with no success. After an hour and a half or so, Vista would
bluescreen (!) with some IRQ exception and refuse to start up. Granted, I
wasn't nervous because Vista creates a backup of your OS in case the
installation fails.

After two unsuccessful installs and rollbacks, I gave up on the upgrade path
and installed Vista on a separate hard drive. I can live with a dual boot.
In retrospect, I'm glad my XP didn't upgrade.

Apps that never ran
All along, using Vista was a bumpy ride. Some applications simply don't
start. They just. quietly. go away. My guess is they don't check if they
have enough permissions, and, since you're not an admin anymore, Vista kills
them. Very few applications at least crash with a permission exception which
gives you a clue to run them as an admin. Looks like software vendors have
some catching up to do.

Firefox
Speaking of which. Firefox in Vista is hosed. Is simply does not remember
any settings. You turn off toolbars-they come back. You try to bookmark a
page-it won't bookmark. You download a file-you can't run it because it's
not signed by a trusted publisher. Again, my guess it's a goof-up on Mozilla's
end. Some "well-known" system paths have changed, and Firefox, obviously,
has a few things hardcoded. So for all intents and purposes, Firefox is not
usable in Vista yet. Oh, if your bookmark toolbar is empty and you try to
hide it, behold a funky "animation".

Developer tools
Just about the only reason I installed Vista was to get a feel for its UI
and try out the new IIS. However, VS 2003 won't run in Vista, and Visual
Studio 2005 comes with plenty of disclaimers. And never mind SQL Server.
What's up with this?

"All Programs" menu
This is, perhaps, the thing I hate the most: the claustrophobic menu where
Vista tries to cram all shortcuts to installed applications. In XP, every
subfolder expands to the right, so you've got plenty of screen real estate.
In Vista, it's all there, in a tree form, inside of a small box. Downright
horrible!

Freeze-ups
I couldn't even suspect I'd have so much use my the Reset button. If I put
Vista to sleep, things go very wrong once I wake it up. IE 7 freezes
everything so bad, that you can't even bring up the Window Task Manager
(CTRL-Shift-Escape does not respond). I don't know if the networking drivers
crap themselves over, and I don't really care. My Reset button is now shiny!

The lethal shutdown
The day before yesterday, I pressed the Shutdown button expecting a prompt
(something you can configure in XP). Vista neatly closed the few
applications that were running, logged me out and shut down, nice and easy.

Imagine my surprise when I booted it up tonight only to see a Windows
2000-style "flat" user interface with everything I installed missing, no
glass, nothing. Somehow I got downgraded to a non-privileged user, unable to
even see anything in the Control Panel. To add insult to injury, every
"zone" in IE 7 became locked. I was locked out and not given any options to
do anything about it.

This is where I said enough. Big thanks to the author(s) of VistaBootPRO who
made it very easy to get rid of Vista from the dual boot.

There's more.
There's plenty more, but you get the overall idea-wait for a service pack.

Help with the launch? No, thanks
As a diligent Microsoft MVP, I wanted to volunteer to help the mother empire
with the Vista launch. I would go to a local BestBuy or CompUSA and help
Microsoft promote the new OS. But after this experience, you won't drag me
there even with a free Zune. I just can't offer people to buy such crap. I'm
sorry for people who will buy and install it. Hey, at least I'm being honest
about it!
 
Re: best way to describe my experience with Vista: it simply sucks!

By the way the writer of that article is an MVP.. lol

As I have said.. the smart MVP's avoid this newsgroup.. because they will
have to
trash vista so much, MS will remove their MVP status! lol


Oh.. vista is trash....


"teyebeareeus" <teyebeareeus@vista.in> wrote in message
news:47378570@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> http://aspnetresources.com/blog/vista_sucks.aspx
>
> This is about the best way to describe my experience with Vista: it simply
> sucks!
>
> I downloaded my copy as soon as Vista was posted on MSDN. Tried to upgrade
> my XP (twice!) with no success. After an hour and a half or so, Vista
> would bluescreen (!) with some IRQ exception and refuse to start up.
> Granted, I wasn't nervous because Vista creates a backup of your OS in
> case the installation fails.
>
> After two unsuccessful installs and rollbacks, I gave up on the upgrade
> path and installed Vista on a separate hard drive. I can live with a dual
> boot. In retrospect, I'm glad my XP didn't upgrade.
>
> Apps that never ran
> All along, using Vista was a bumpy ride. Some applications simply don't
> start. They just. quietly. go away. My guess is they don't check if they
> have enough permissions, and, since you're not an admin anymore, Vista
> kills them. Very few applications at least crash with a permission
> exception which gives you a clue to run them as an admin. Looks like
> software vendors have some catching up to do.
>
> Firefox
> Speaking of which. Firefox in Vista is hosed. Is simply does not remember
> any settings. You turn off toolbars-they come back. You try to bookmark a
> page-it won't bookmark. You download a file-you can't run it because it's
> not signed by a trusted publisher. Again, my guess it's a goof-up on
> Mozilla's end. Some "well-known" system paths have changed, and Firefox,
> obviously, has a few things hardcoded. So for all intents and purposes,
> Firefox is not usable in Vista yet. Oh, if your bookmark toolbar is empty
> and you try to hide it, behold a funky "animation".
>
> Developer tools
> Just about the only reason I installed Vista was to get a feel for its UI
> and try out the new IIS. However, VS 2003 won't run in Vista, and Visual
> Studio 2005 comes with plenty of disclaimers. And never mind SQL Server.
> What's up with this?
>
> "All Programs" menu
> This is, perhaps, the thing I hate the most: the claustrophobic menu where
> Vista tries to cram all shortcuts to installed applications. In XP, every
> subfolder expands to the right, so you've got plenty of screen real
> estate. In Vista, it's all there, in a tree form, inside of a small box.
> Downright horrible!
>
> Freeze-ups
> I couldn't even suspect I'd have so much use my the Reset button. If I put
> Vista to sleep, things go very wrong once I wake it up. IE 7 freezes
> everything so bad, that you can't even bring up the Window Task Manager
> (CTRL-Shift-Escape does not respond). I don't know if the networking
> drivers crap themselves over, and I don't really care. My Reset button is
> now shiny!
>
> The lethal shutdown
> The day before yesterday, I pressed the Shutdown button expecting a prompt
> (something you can configure in XP). Vista neatly closed the few
> applications that were running, logged me out and shut down, nice and
> easy.
>
> Imagine my surprise when I booted it up tonight only to see a Windows
> 2000-style "flat" user interface with everything I installed missing, no
> glass, nothing. Somehow I got downgraded to a non-privileged user, unable
> to even see anything in the Control Panel. To add insult to injury, every
> "zone" in IE 7 became locked. I was locked out and not given any options
> to do anything about it.
>
> This is where I said enough. Big thanks to the author(s) of VistaBootPRO
> who made it very easy to get rid of Vista from the dual boot.
>
> There's more.
> There's plenty more, but you get the overall idea-wait for a service pack.
>
> Help with the launch? No, thanks
> As a diligent Microsoft MVP, I wanted to volunteer to help the mother
> empire with the Vista launch. I would go to a local BestBuy or CompUSA and
> help Microsoft promote the new OS. But after this experience, you won't
> drag me there even with a free Zune. I just can't offer people to buy such
> crap. I'm sorry for people who will buy and install it. Hey, at least I'm
> being honest about it!
>
>
 
Re: best way to describe my experience with Vista: it simply sucks!

teyebeareeus wrote:
> http://aspnetresources.com/blog/vista_sucks.aspx
>
> This is about the best way to describe my experience with Vista: it
> simply sucks!
>
> I downloaded my copy as soon as Vista was posted on MSDN. Tried to
> upgrade my XP (twice!) with no success. After an hour and a half or so,
> Vista
> would bluescreen (!) with some IRQ exception and refuse to start up.
> Granted, I wasn't nervous because Vista creates a backup of your OS
> in case the installation fails.


Yes, that happens with bad hardware. Vista is less forgiving of stuff made
with child labor.

> Apps that never ran
> All along, using Vista was a bumpy ride. Some applications simply
> don't start. They just. quietly. go away. My guess is they don't
> check if they have enough permissions, and, since you're not an admin
> anymore,
> Vista kills them. Very few applications at least crash with a
> permission exception which gives you a clue to run them as an admin.
> Looks like software vendors have some catching up to do.


Could be.

>
> Firefox
> Speaking of which. Firefox in Vista is hosed. Is simply does not
> remember any settings. You turn off toolbars-they come back. You try to
> bookmark a page-it won't bookmark. You download a file-you can't run
> it because it's not signed by a trusted publisher. Again, my guess it's a
> goof-up on
> Mozilla's end. Some "well-known" system paths have changed, and
> Firefox, obviously, has a few things hardcoded. So for all intents and
> purposes, Firefox
> is not usable in Vista yet. Oh, if your bookmark toolbar is empty and
> you try to hide it, behold a funky "animation".


This is for your cat's protection. Firefox gives your cat warts. If you
don't have a cat, I can't explain it.


[skip other observations]

I'll put you down as "challenged."
 
Re: best way to describe my experience with Vista: it simply sucks!

> I'll put you down as "challenged."

That original article is from an MVP that supposedly is an "expert" lol



"HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:O%23n5EbLJIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> teyebeareeus wrote:
>> http://aspnetresources.com/blog/vista_sucks.aspx
>>
>> This is about the best way to describe my experience with Vista: it
>> simply sucks!
>>
>> I downloaded my copy as soon as Vista was posted on MSDN. Tried to
>> upgrade my XP (twice!) with no success. After an hour and a half or so,
>> Vista
>> would bluescreen (!) with some IRQ exception and refuse to start up.
>> Granted, I wasn't nervous because Vista creates a backup of your OS
>> in case the installation fails.

>
> Yes, that happens with bad hardware. Vista is less forgiving of stuff made
> with child labor.
>
>> Apps that never ran
>> All along, using Vista was a bumpy ride. Some applications simply
>> don't start. They just. quietly. go away. My guess is they don't
>> check if they have enough permissions, and, since you're not an admin
>> anymore,
>> Vista kills them. Very few applications at least crash with a
>> permission exception which gives you a clue to run them as an admin.
>> Looks like software vendors have some catching up to do.

>
> Could be.
>
>>
>> Firefox
>> Speaking of which. Firefox in Vista is hosed. Is simply does not
>> remember any settings. You turn off toolbars-they come back. You try to
>> bookmark a page-it won't bookmark. You download a file-you can't run
>> it because it's not signed by a trusted publisher. Again, my guess it's a
>> goof-up on
>> Mozilla's end. Some "well-known" system paths have changed, and
>> Firefox, obviously, has a few things hardcoded. So for all intents and
>> purposes, Firefox
>> is not usable in Vista yet. Oh, if your bookmark toolbar is empty and
>> you try to hide it, behold a funky "animation".

>
> This is for your cat's protection. Firefox gives your cat warts. If you
> don't have a cat, I can't explain it.
>
>
> [skip other observations]
>
> I'll put you down as "challenged."
>
 
Re: best way to describe my experience with Vista: it simply sucks!


"teyebeareeus" <teyebeareeus@vista.in> wrote in message
news:47378570@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> http://aspnetresources.com/blog/vista_sucks.aspx
>
> This is about the best way to describe my experience with Vista: it simply
> sucks!
>
> I downloaded my copy as soon as Vista was posted on MSDN. Tried to upgrade
> my XP (twice!) with no success. After an hour and a half or so, Vista

would
> bluescreen (!) with some IRQ exception and refuse to start up. Granted, I
> wasn't nervous because Vista creates a backup of your OS in case the
> installation fails.
>



<snip>

I gave Vista a good tryout for three months...then decided not to go with
it.
Though I had a few problems...there was nothing I found seriously wrong with
it...OTOH:
I found no worthwhile improvements over XP...
and slightly worse performance.

I'll keep my eyes open for "Windows 7"
 
Re: best way to describe my experience with Vista: it simply sucks!


"teyebeareeus" <teyebeareeus@vista.in> wrote in message
news:47378b35$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>> I'll put you down as "challenged."

>
> That original article is from an MVP that supposedly is an "expert" lol


and you are nothing but someone who has too much time on his or her hands.
You really need to get something else to do. Maybe a girlfriend, boyfriend,
blow-up doll? Something to keep you away from this stuff. I think it is
clouding what little brain you have.

Just FYI

>
>
>
> "HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O%23n5EbLJIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> teyebeareeus wrote:
>>> http://aspnetresources.com/blog/vista_sucks.aspx
>>>
>>> This is about the best way to describe my experience with Vista: it
>>> simply sucks!
>>>
>>> I downloaded my copy as soon as Vista was posted on MSDN. Tried to
>>> upgrade my XP (twice!) with no success. After an hour and a half or so,
>>> Vista
>>> would bluescreen (!) with some IRQ exception and refuse to start up.
>>> Granted, I wasn't nervous because Vista creates a backup of your OS
>>> in case the installation fails.

>>
>> Yes, that happens with bad hardware. Vista is less forgiving of stuff
>> made
>> with child labor.
>>
>>> Apps that never ran
>>> All along, using Vista was a bumpy ride. Some applications simply
>>> don't start. They just. quietly. go away. My guess is they don't
>>> check if they have enough permissions, and, since you're not an admin
>>> anymore,
>>> Vista kills them. Very few applications at least crash with a
>>> permission exception which gives you a clue to run them as an admin.
>>> Looks like software vendors have some catching up to do.

>>
>> Could be.
>>
>>>
>>> Firefox
>>> Speaking of which. Firefox in Vista is hosed. Is simply does not
>>> remember any settings. You turn off toolbars-they come back. You try to
>>> bookmark a page-it won't bookmark. You download a file-you can't run
>>> it because it's not signed by a trusted publisher. Again, my guess it's
>>> a
>>> goof-up on
>>> Mozilla's end. Some "well-known" system paths have changed, and
>>> Firefox, obviously, has a few things hardcoded. So for all intents and
>>> purposes, Firefox
>>> is not usable in Vista yet. Oh, if your bookmark toolbar is empty and
>>> you try to hide it, behold a funky "animation".

>>
>> This is for your cat's protection. Firefox gives your cat warts. If you
>> don't have a cat, I can't explain it.
>>
>>
>> [skip other observations]
>>
>> I'll put you down as "challenged."
>>

>
>
>
 
Re: best way to describe my experience with Vista: it simply sucks!

teyebeareeus wrote:

>>I'll put you down as "challenged."

>
>
> That original article is from an MVP that supposedly is an "expert" lol
>

I'm beginning to get your point capin' crunch.
Vista is for the knowledgeable computer user and XP is what everyone
else (re: idiots like you) should use.
Got it!
Frank
 
You wouldn't know an MVP if he.......

You wouldn't know an MVP if he.......

if he danced on your head with high heels! Just FYI.

Maybe you can call 1-800-GET-A-CLUE and see what happens.

Just FYI


"teyebeareeus" <teyebeareeus@vista.in> wrote in message
news:47378637$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> By the way the writer of that article is an MVP.. lol
>
> As I have said.. the smart MVP's avoid this newsgroup.. because they will
> have to
> trash vista so much, MS will remove their MVP status! lol
>
>
> Oh.. vista is trash....
>
>
> "teyebeareeus" <teyebeareeus@vista.in> wrote in message
> news:47378570@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>> http://aspnetresources.com/blog/vista_sucks.aspx
>>
>> This is about the best way to describe my experience with Vista: it
>> simply sucks!
>>
>> I downloaded my copy as soon as Vista was posted on MSDN. Tried to
>> upgrade my XP (twice!) with no success. After an hour and a half or so,
>> Vista would bluescreen (!) with some IRQ exception and refuse to start
>> up. Granted, I wasn't nervous because Vista creates a backup of your OS
>> in case the installation fails.
>>
>> After two unsuccessful installs and rollbacks, I gave up on the upgrade
>> path and installed Vista on a separate hard drive. I can live with a dual
>> boot. In retrospect, I'm glad my XP didn't upgrade.
>>
>> Apps that never ran
>> All along, using Vista was a bumpy ride. Some applications simply don't
>> start. They just. quietly. go away. My guess is they don't check if they
>> have enough permissions, and, since you're not an admin anymore, Vista
>> kills them. Very few applications at least crash with a permission
>> exception which gives you a clue to run them as an admin. Looks like
>> software vendors have some catching up to do.
>>
>> Firefox
>> Speaking of which. Firefox in Vista is hosed. Is simply does not remember
>> any settings. You turn off toolbars-they come back. You try to bookmark a
>> page-it won't bookmark. You download a file-you can't run it because it's
>> not signed by a trusted publisher. Again, my guess it's a goof-up on
>> Mozilla's end. Some "well-known" system paths have changed, and Firefox,
>> obviously, has a few things hardcoded. So for all intents and purposes,
>> Firefox is not usable in Vista yet. Oh, if your bookmark toolbar is empty
>> and you try to hide it, behold a funky "animation".
>>
>> Developer tools
>> Just about the only reason I installed Vista was to get a feel for its UI
>> and try out the new IIS. However, VS 2003 won't run in Vista, and Visual
>> Studio 2005 comes with plenty of disclaimers. And never mind SQL Server.
>> What's up with this?
>>
>> "All Programs" menu
>> This is, perhaps, the thing I hate the most: the claustrophobic menu
>> where Vista tries to cram all shortcuts to installed applications. In XP,
>> every subfolder expands to the right, so you've got plenty of screen real
>> estate. In Vista, it's all there, in a tree form, inside of a small box.
>> Downright horrible!
>>
>> Freeze-ups
>> I couldn't even suspect I'd have so much use my the Reset button. If I
>> put Vista to sleep, things go very wrong once I wake it up. IE 7 freezes
>> everything so bad, that you can't even bring up the Window Task Manager
>> (CTRL-Shift-Escape does not respond). I don't know if the networking
>> drivers crap themselves over, and I don't really care. My Reset button is
>> now shiny!
>>
>> The lethal shutdown
>> The day before yesterday, I pressed the Shutdown button expecting a
>> prompt (something you can configure in XP). Vista neatly closed the few
>> applications that were running, logged me out and shut down, nice and
>> easy.
>>
>> Imagine my surprise when I booted it up tonight only to see a Windows
>> 2000-style "flat" user interface with everything I installed missing, no
>> glass, nothing. Somehow I got downgraded to a non-privileged user, unable
>> to even see anything in the Control Panel. To add insult to injury, every
>> "zone" in IE 7 became locked. I was locked out and not given any options
>> to do anything about it.
>>
>> This is where I said enough. Big thanks to the author(s) of VistaBootPRO
>> who made it very easy to get rid of Vista from the dual boot.
>>
>> There's more.
>> There's plenty more, but you get the overall idea-wait for a service
>> pack.
>>
>> Help with the launch? No, thanks
>> As a diligent Microsoft MVP, I wanted to volunteer to help the mother
>> empire with the Vista launch. I would go to a local BestBuy or CompUSA
>> and help Microsoft promote the new OS. But after this experience, you
>> won't drag me there even with a free Zune. I just can't offer people to
>> buy such crap. I'm sorry for people who will buy and install it. Hey, at
>> least I'm being honest about it!
>>
>>

>
>
 
Re: best way to describe my experience with Vista: it simply sucks!

You really are a frickin dork aren't you !!...You got dropped on your head
too much when you were a child...Oh wait you still are a child !!
"teyebeareeus" <teyebeareeus@vista.in> wrote in message
news:47378570@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> http://aspnetresources.com/blog/vista_sucks.aspx
>
> This is about the best way to describe my experience with Vista: it simply
> sucks!
>
> I downloaded my copy as soon as Vista was posted on MSDN. Tried to upgrade
> my XP (twice!) with no success. After an hour and a half or so, Vista
> would bluescreen (!) with some IRQ exception and refuse to start up.
> Granted, I wasn't nervous because Vista creates a backup of your OS in
> case the installation fails.
>
> After two unsuccessful installs and rollbacks, I gave up on the upgrade
> path and installed Vista on a separate hard drive. I can live with a dual
> boot. In retrospect, I'm glad my XP didn't upgrade.
>
> Apps that never ran
> All along, using Vista was a bumpy ride. Some applications simply don't
> start. They just. quietly. go away. My guess is they don't check if they
> have enough permissions, and, since you're not an admin anymore, Vista
> kills them. Very few applications at least crash with a permission
> exception which gives you a clue to run them as an admin. Looks like
> software vendors have some catching up to do.
>
> Firefox
> Speaking of which. Firefox in Vista is hosed. Is simply does not remember
> any settings. You turn off toolbars-they come back. You try to bookmark a
> page-it won't bookmark. You download a file-you can't run it because it's
> not signed by a trusted publisher. Again, my guess it's a goof-up on
> Mozilla's end. Some "well-known" system paths have changed, and Firefox,
> obviously, has a few things hardcoded. So for all intents and purposes,
> Firefox is not usable in Vista yet. Oh, if your bookmark toolbar is empty
> and you try to hide it, behold a funky "animation".
>
> Developer tools
> Just about the only reason I installed Vista was to get a feel for its UI
> and try out the new IIS. However, VS 2003 won't run in Vista, and Visual
> Studio 2005 comes with plenty of disclaimers. And never mind SQL Server.
> What's up with this?
>
> "All Programs" menu
> This is, perhaps, the thing I hate the most: the claustrophobic menu where
> Vista tries to cram all shortcuts to installed applications. In XP, every
> subfolder expands to the right, so you've got plenty of screen real
> estate. In Vista, it's all there, in a tree form, inside of a small box.
> Downright horrible!
>
> Freeze-ups
> I couldn't even suspect I'd have so much use my the Reset button. If I put
> Vista to sleep, things go very wrong once I wake it up. IE 7 freezes
> everything so bad, that you can't even bring up the Window Task Manager
> (CTRL-Shift-Escape does not respond). I don't know if the networking
> drivers crap themselves over, and I don't really care. My Reset button is
> now shiny!
>
> The lethal shutdown
> The day before yesterday, I pressed the Shutdown button expecting a prompt
> (something you can configure in XP). Vista neatly closed the few
> applications that were running, logged me out and shut down, nice and
> easy.
>
> Imagine my surprise when I booted it up tonight only to see a Windows
> 2000-style "flat" user interface with everything I installed missing, no
> glass, nothing. Somehow I got downgraded to a non-privileged user, unable
> to even see anything in the Control Panel. To add insult to injury, every
> "zone" in IE 7 became locked. I was locked out and not given any options
> to do anything about it.
>
> This is where I said enough. Big thanks to the author(s) of VistaBootPRO
> who made it very easy to get rid of Vista from the dual boot.
>
> There's more.
> There's plenty more, but you get the overall idea-wait for a service pack.
>
> Help with the launch? No, thanks
> As a diligent Microsoft MVP, I wanted to volunteer to help the mother
> empire with the Vista launch. I would go to a local BestBuy or CompUSA and
> help Microsoft promote the new OS. But after this experience, you won't
> drag me there even with a free Zune. I just can't offer people to buy such
> crap. I'm sorry for people who will buy and install it. Hey, at least I'm
> being honest about it!
>
>
 
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