What happens to temporary licenses.

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I installed Windows 2003 and activated terminal services in
application mode. I am still within the intial 90 days. I have
installed 10 TS Cals on it. When Iog on to TS, I get a messages that
says by temporary license will expire in 7 days. Since I have added 10
CALs, do I have to do anything when the temporary license expires.
Will I be issued a permanent license at that time?
 
Re: What happens to temporary licenses.

On Nov 14, 7:55 am, "stephe...@mac.com" <stephe...@mac.com> wrote:
> I installed Windows 2003 and activated terminal services in
> application mode. I am still within the intial 90 days. I have
> installed 10 TS Cals on it. When Iog on to TS, I get a messages that
> says by temporary license will expire in 7 days. Since I have added 10
> CALs, do I have to do anything when the temporary license expires.
> Will I be issued a permanent license at that time?


>From memory, and this is testing it since it's been a while, once I

added the licences the tempory status stopped prompting....you put the
correct one's in? i.e. per user licence in the right section? as far
as any other activation went, there wasn't anything...

I'll look into it again, and see what I can find out/remember....
 
Re: What happens to temporary licenses.

No, something is wrong, otherwise you would have been issued a
permanent license on the first connection after you installed the TS
CALs.
Which type of TS CALs did you install, Per User or Per Device? Have
you checked that the licensing mode of the Terminal Server matches
the type of TS CALs?
Sounds like you installed Per User TS CALs and forgot to switch the
default licensing mode of the TS. That's done in Terminal Services
Configuration - Server settings.
_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
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"stephenh2@mac.com" <stephenh2@mac.com> wrote on 13 nov 2007 in
microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> I installed Windows 2003 and activated terminal services in
> application mode. I am still within the intial 90 days. I have
> installed 10 TS Cals on it. When Iog on to TS, I get a messages
> that says by temporary license will expire in 7 days. Since I
> have added 10 CALs, do I have to do anything when the temporary
> license expires. Will I be issued a permanent license at that
> time?
 
Re: What happens to temporary licenses.

You are right. The Licensing server is licensing on a per device mode.
the CALs that I installed are on a per user mode. Can my user CALs be
changed into device CAL's? or Do I need to get entirely difference
CALs?

If I need the change the licensing mode of the Licensing server, how
do I do that?



On Nov 14, 5:50 am, "Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.no...@remove-
this.hem.utfors.se> wrote:
> No, something is wrong, otherwise you would have been issued a
> permanent license on the first connection after you installed the TS
> CALs.
> Which type of TS CALs did you install, Per User or Per Device? Have
> you checked that the licensing mode of the Terminal Server matches
> the type of TS CALs?
> Sounds like you installed Per User TS CALs and forgot to switch the
> default licensing mode of the TS. That's done in Terminal Services
> Configuration - Server settings.
> _________________________________________________________
> Vera Noest
> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>
> "stephe...@mac.com" <stephe...@mac.com> wrote on 13 nov 2007 in
> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>
> > I installed Windows 2003 and activated terminal services in
> > application mode. I am still within the intial 90 days. I have
> > installed 10 TS Cals on it. When Iog on to TS, I get a messages
> > that says by temporary license will expire in 7 days. Since I
> > have added 10 CALs, do I have to do anything when the temporary
> > license expires. Will I be issued a permanent license at that
> > time?
 
Re: What happens to temporary licenses.

I went to ts conf and changed license mode to user. I restarted the
client and relogged on to the TS. When I look under TS licensing, it
still has 10 user cals total and 10 user cals avail. It does not look
like it issued a user cal to me and is still using a device cal.

Stephen Hsieh

On Nov 14, 5:50 am, "Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.no...@remove-
this.hem.utfors.se> wrote:
> No, something is wrong, otherwise you would have been issued a
> permanent license on the first connection after you installed the TS
> CALs.
> Which type of TS CALs did you install, Per User or Per Device? Have
> you checked that the licensing mode of the Terminal Server matches
> the type of TS CALs?
> Sounds like you installed Per User TS CALs and forgot to switch the
> default licensing mode of the TS. That's done in Terminal Services
> Configuration - Server settings.
> _________________________________________________________
> Vera Noest
> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>
> "stephe...@mac.com" <stephe...@mac.com> wrote on 13 nov 2007 in
> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>
> > I installed Windows 2003 and activated terminal services in
> > application mode. I am still within the intial 90 days. I have
> > installed 10 TS Cals on it. When Iog on to TS, I get a messages
> > that says by temporary license will expire in 7 days. Since I
> > have added 10 CALs, do I have to do anything when the temporary
> > license expires. Will I be issued a permanent license at that
> > time?
 
Re: What happens to temporary licenses.

First of all, decide what is the cheapest licensing type for your
company:
* if you have more users than clients (like in a classroom or
multiple shift situation, where several people connect to the TS
from shared workstations), then Per Device licensing is cheaper.

* if you have more clients than users (users connect from multiple
clients, i.e their office PC, a laptop and their home PC), then Per
User licensing is cheaper.

If you want to keep your Per User TS CALs, you can simply change
the licensing mode of the TS. As I wrote, that's done in Terminal
Services Configuration - Server settings.

If you want to change to Per Device licensing, you need a
completely different Client License Pack. You'll have to phone the
Clearinghouse, which can issue you a new License Pack. Note that
this is only allowed if you have bought Software Assurance for your
existing TS CALs.

291795 - HOW TO: Locate a Phone Number for the Microsoft
Clearinghouse
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=291795

From
Windows Server 2003 Pricing and Licensing FAQ
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/howtobuy/licensing/pricl
icfaq.mspx#E3DAC

Q. Will I be allowed to switch between Windows Device CALs and
Windows User CALs? What about TS CALs?

A. Customers who have active Software Assurance coverage for
Windows Server CALs under agreements signed on or before April 1,
2003 may change their Windows Device CALs to Windows User CALs at
the time of the annual true-up process. These transition rights can
also be applied in the same way for switching from TS Device CALs
to TS User CALs for TS CALs covered by SA under agreements signed
on or before April 1, 2003.

Customers with current Software Assurance for CALs acquired after
April 1, 2003 may switch their Device CALs to User CALs and User
CAL to Device CALs upon renewal of their Software Assurance
coverage for those CALs.

_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

"stephenh2@mac.com" <stephenh2@mac.com> wrote on 14 nov 2007 in
microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> You are right. The Licensing server is licensing on a per device
> mode. the CALs that I installed are on a per user mode. Can my
> user CALs be changed into device CAL's? or Do I need to get
> entirely difference CALs?
>
> If I need the change the licensing mode of the Licensing server,
> how do I do that?
>
>
>
> On Nov 14, 5:50 am, "Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.no...@remove-
> this.hem.utfors.se> wrote:
>> No, something is wrong, otherwise you would have been issued a
>> permanent license on the first connection after you installed
>> the TS CALs.
>> Which type of TS CALs did you install, Per User or Per Device?
>> Have you checked that the licensing mode of the Terminal Server
>> matches the type of TS CALs?
>> Sounds like you installed Per User TS CALs and forgot to switch
>> the default licensing mode of the TS. That's done in Terminal
>> Services Configuration - Server settings.
>> _________________________________________________________
>> Vera Noest
>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>>
>> "stephe...@mac.com" <stephe...@mac.com> wrote on 13 nov 2007 in
>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>>
>> > I installed Windows 2003 and activated terminal services in
>> > application mode. I am still within the intial 90 days. I
>> > have installed 10 TS Cals on it. When Iog on to TS, I get a
>> > messages that says by temporary license will expire in 7
>> > days. Since I have added 10 CALs, do I have to do anything
>> > when the temporary license expires. Will I be issued a
>> > permanent license at that time?
 
Re: What happens to temporary licenses.

Per User TS CALs are currently unmanaged. That's why they are
listed as "N/A" under the "Issued" count in TS Licensing Manager.

This means that when a TS server is set to accept User CALs it will
look to the license server to make sure that one is available but
it will not be decremented from the database.
It is your responsibility to have a valid User CAL for every user
that uses the terminal server.

Check this article as well, it explains that even after you have
switched licensing mode on the TS, your User CALs count will not
be decremented:

822134 - The Function of Terminal Server CALs in Windows Server
2003
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=822134

When you connect to the TS, you should no longer receive the
warning about the expiration date of your temporary license. That's
the sign that you are now running on Per User licensing.
_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

"stephenh2@mac.com" <stephenh2@mac.com> wrote on 14 nov 2007 in
microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> I went to ts conf and changed license mode to user. I restarted
> the client and relogged on to the TS. When I look under TS
> licensing, it still has 10 user cals total and 10 user cals
> avail. It does not look like it issued a user cal to me and is
> still using a device cal.
>
> Stephen Hsieh
>
> On Nov 14, 5:50 am, "Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.no...@remove-
> this.hem.utfors.se> wrote:
>> No, something is wrong, otherwise you would have been issued a
>> permanent license on the first connection after you installed
>> the TS CALs.
>> Which type of TS CALs did you install, Per User or Per Device?
>> Have you checked that the licensing mode of the Terminal Server
>> matches the type of TS CALs?
>> Sounds like you installed Per User TS CALs and forgot to switch
>> the default licensing mode of the TS. That's done in Terminal
>> Services Configuration - Server settings.
>> _________________________________________________________
>> Vera Noest
>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>>
>> "stephe...@mac.com" <stephe...@mac.com> wrote on 13 nov 2007 in
>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>>
>> > I installed Windows 2003 and activated terminal services in
>> > application mode. I am still within the intial 90 days. I
>> > have installed 10 TS Cals on it. When Iog on to TS, I get a
>> > messages that says by temporary license will expire in 7
>> > days. Since I have added 10 CALs, do I have to do anything
>> > when the temporary license expires. Will I be issued a
>> > permanent license at that time?
 
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