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Hey all again.....

I have a windows XP 64 bit with dual processor (intel) gigabyte motherboard,
4gigs ram, onboard bigabyte ethernet controller set to automatically get an
IP address, this card is connected to my 4 port routher and have an inhouse
network.. I access the internet thru this controller..

I have finally found a PCI ethernet card that is compatable with the 64bit
OS.. There are several out there that are 64bit but need the PCI Express slot
to work...this one works with the standard PCI slot.. A USrobotics 10/100/1000

I have install the card and the software and it show up in the device
manager and everywhere else.. and says it is working correctly....

what Im doing with it is running a piece of equipment that uses a net
connection, I was getting some screwy communications thru the router, so
opted to go direct from an ethernet card...

the equipment runs perfectly from the onboard adaptor with a setting of
192.168.0.120, the equipment IP is set to 192.168.0.130

my problem is....I have set up the TCP/IP on the added 64bit card to
192.168.0.120, my equipment is set to 192.168.0.130

I have tried several different options to get this to work...

Not sure what to do here.. im an end user and not that great with network
stuff...

any help with this would be appreciated...

Thanks in advance
 
Re: second ethernet card

This isn't really a 64-bit question - it's a pure networking question. Would
be the same in 32-bit Windows.
That being said, there are several possibilities:

1.) you say you connected the equipment directly to the card. Normal cables
expect to connect to a hub/switch and have the other equipment on the
network connect to another port on the switch. If the two are directly
connected, they need to have a cross-over cable between them, unless one of
the NICs is "autosensing". Do you have a connection light? What is the
status of the connection in XP?

2.) You can't put this second NIC at the same IP address as your original
NIC. That's bad and won't work.

3.) You should really have the equipment and the second NIC on a completely
different subnet (range of IP addresses). You can either change the ip
addresses used by the 2nd NIC and the device, or you can change the
addresses being handed out and used by the router and the original NIC.
Change the 2nd NIC to 192.168.10.120, the equipment IP is set to
192.168.10.130. If you try to have them both on the same subnet you'll end
up with issues as Windows won't know which NIC to use to reach the equipment
and will try to default to the original one. By using fixed IP addresses in
a different subnet you solve that.


--
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http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"JT" <JT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7302A32F-D3D6-4878-9824-C131059DE413@microsoft.com...
> Hey all again.....
>
> I have a windows XP 64 bit with dual processor (intel) gigabyte
> motherboard,
> 4gigs ram, onboard bigabyte ethernet controller set to automatically get
> an
> IP address, this card is connected to my 4 port routher and have an
> inhouse
> network.. I access the internet thru this controller..
>
> I have finally found a PCI ethernet card that is compatable with the 64bit
> OS.. There are several out there that are 64bit but need the PCI Express
> slot
> to work...this one works with the standard PCI slot.. A USrobotics
> 10/100/1000
>
> I have install the card and the software and it show up in the device
> manager and everywhere else.. and says it is working correctly....
>
> what Im doing with it is running a piece of equipment that uses a net
> connection, I was getting some screwy communications thru the router, so
> opted to go direct from an ethernet card...
>
> the equipment runs perfectly from the onboard adaptor with a setting of
> 192.168.0.120, the equipment IP is set to 192.168.0.130
>
> my problem is....I have set up the TCP/IP on the added 64bit card to
> 192.168.0.120, my equipment is set to 192.168.0.130
>
> I have tried several different options to get this to work...
>
> Not sure what to do here.. im an end user and not that great with network
> stuff...
>
> any help with this would be appreciated...
>
> Thanks in advance
 
Re: second ethernet card

Thanks a million..... that worked....

JT

"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> This isn't really a 64-bit question - it's a pure networking question. Would
> be the same in 32-bit Windows.
> That being said, there are several possibilities:
>
> 1.) you say you connected the equipment directly to the card. Normal cables
> expect to connect to a hub/switch and have the other equipment on the
> network connect to another port on the switch. If the two are directly
> connected, they need to have a cross-over cable between them, unless one of
> the NICs is "autosensing". Do you have a connection light? What is the
> status of the connection in XP?
>
> 2.) You can't put this second NIC at the same IP address as your original
> NIC. That's bad and won't work.
>
> 3.) You should really have the equipment and the second NIC on a completely
> different subnet (range of IP addresses). You can either change the ip
> addresses used by the 2nd NIC and the device, or you can change the
> addresses being handed out and used by the router and the original NIC.
> Change the 2nd NIC to 192.168.10.120, the equipment IP is set to
> 192.168.10.130. If you try to have them both on the same subnet you'll end
> up with issues as Windows won't know which NIC to use to reach the equipment
> and will try to default to the original one. By using fixed IP addresses in
> a different subnet you solve that.
>
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "JT" <JT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7302A32F-D3D6-4878-9824-C131059DE413@microsoft.com...
> > Hey all again.....
> >
> > I have a windows XP 64 bit with dual processor (intel) gigabyte
> > motherboard,
> > 4gigs ram, onboard bigabyte ethernet controller set to automatically get
> > an
> > IP address, this card is connected to my 4 port routher and have an
> > inhouse
> > network.. I access the internet thru this controller..
> >
> > I have finally found a PCI ethernet card that is compatable with the 64bit
> > OS.. There are several out there that are 64bit but need the PCI Express
> > slot
> > to work...this one works with the standard PCI slot.. A USrobotics
> > 10/100/1000
> >
> > I have install the card and the software and it show up in the device
> > manager and everywhere else.. and says it is working correctly....
> >
> > what Im doing with it is running a piece of equipment that uses a net
> > connection, I was getting some screwy communications thru the router, so
> > opted to go direct from an ethernet card...
> >
> > the equipment runs perfectly from the onboard adaptor with a setting of
> > 192.168.0.120, the equipment IP is set to 192.168.0.130
> >
> > my problem is....I have set up the TCP/IP on the added 64bit card to
> > 192.168.0.120, my equipment is set to 192.168.0.130
> >
> > I have tried several different options to get this to work...
> >
> > Not sure what to do here.. im an end user and not that great with network
> > stuff...
> >
> > any help with this would be appreciated...
> >
> > Thanks in advance
>
 
Re: second ethernet card

Hi Charly,
I think most Gig-Lan cards do support Auto-MDI-X with support for Cross Over
/ Straight Throug cabling.
regards jk
 
Re: second ethernet card

Many do. I have no idea if the US Robotics one does. IAC, I prefer to answer
with as general an answer as possible, since this is a one to many
environment and others read the answers and can learn. So I wanted to
provide guidance that would cover a broader range of problems that might be
related.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Juergen Kluth" <jkluth@t-onlinr.de> wrote in message
news:ub1uBo3JIHA.3516@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Hi Charly,
> I think most Gig-Lan cards do support Auto-MDI-X with support for Cross
> Over / Straight Throug cabling.
> regards jk
>
 
Re: second ethernet card

Charlie,

Couldn't you just disable the original onboard NIC through Network
Connections and use the same IP on the new card? Or did I misunderstand the
OP?

Drew

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
news:CCC8BA28-68C4-4E1E-AFED-E4E089DC4265@microsoft.com...
> This isn't really a 64-bit question - it's a pure networking question.
> Would be the same in 32-bit Windows.
> That being said, there are several possibilities:
>
> 1.) you say you connected the equipment directly to the card. Normal
> cables expect to connect to a hub/switch and have the other equipment on
> the network connect to another port on the switch. If the two are directly
> connected, they need to have a cross-over cable between them, unless one
> of the NICs is "autosensing". Do you have a connection light? What is the
> status of the connection in XP?
>
> 2.) You can't put this second NIC at the same IP address as your original
> NIC. That's bad and won't work.
>
> 3.) You should really have the equipment and the second NIC on a
> completely different subnet (range of IP addresses). You can either change
> the ip addresses used by the 2nd NIC and the device, or you can change the
> addresses being handed out and used by the router and the original NIC.
> Change the 2nd NIC to 192.168.10.120, the equipment IP is set to
> 192.168.10.130. If you try to have them both on the same subnet you'll end
> up with issues as Windows won't know which NIC to use to reach the
> equipment and will try to default to the original one. By using fixed IP
> addresses in a different subnet you solve that.
>
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "JT" <JT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7302A32F-D3D6-4878-9824-C131059DE413@microsoft.com...
>> Hey all again.....
>>
>> I have a windows XP 64 bit with dual processor (intel) gigabyte
>> motherboard,
>> 4gigs ram, onboard bigabyte ethernet controller set to automatically get
>> an
>> IP address, this card is connected to my 4 port routher and have an
>> inhouse
>> network.. I access the internet thru this controller..
>>
>> I have finally found a PCI ethernet card that is compatable with the
>> 64bit
>> OS.. There are several out there that are 64bit but need the PCI Express
>> slot
>> to work...this one works with the standard PCI slot.. A USrobotics
>> 10/100/1000
>>
>> I have install the card and the software and it show up in the device
>> manager and everywhere else.. and says it is working correctly....
>>
>> what Im doing with it is running a piece of equipment that uses a net
>> connection, I was getting some screwy communications thru the router, so
>> opted to go direct from an ethernet card...
>>
>> the equipment runs perfectly from the onboard adaptor with a setting of
>> 192.168.0.120, the equipment IP is set to 192.168.0.130
>>
>> my problem is....I have set up the TCP/IP on the added 64bit card to
>> 192.168.0.120, my equipment is set to 192.168.0.130
>>
>> I have tried several different options to get this to work...
>>
>> Not sure what to do here.. im an end user and not that great with network
>> stuff...
>>
>> any help with this would be appreciated...
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>
 
Re: second ethernet card

Then the computer would lose connectivity with the router. And it's NEVER a
good idea to try to reuse an IP address from a card that is still present in
the machine.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Drew" <dam@dam.dam> wrote in message
news:eIR9Hb7JIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Charlie,
>
> Couldn't you just disable the original onboard NIC through Network
> Connections and use the same IP on the new card? Or did I misunderstand
> the OP?
>
> Drew
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> news:CCC8BA28-68C4-4E1E-AFED-E4E089DC4265@microsoft.com...
>> This isn't really a 64-bit question - it's a pure networking question.
>> Would be the same in 32-bit Windows.
>> That being said, there are several possibilities:
>>
>> 1.) you say you connected the equipment directly to the card. Normal
>> cables expect to connect to a hub/switch and have the other equipment on
>> the network connect to another port on the switch. If the two are
>> directly connected, they need to have a cross-over cable between them,
>> unless one of the NICs is "autosensing". Do you have a connection light?
>> What is the status of the connection in XP?
>>
>> 2.) You can't put this second NIC at the same IP address as your original
>> NIC. That's bad and won't work.
>>
>> 3.) You should really have the equipment and the second NIC on a
>> completely different subnet (range of IP addresses). You can either
>> change the ip addresses used by the 2nd NIC and the device, or you can
>> change the addresses being handed out and used by the router and the
>> original NIC. Change the 2nd NIC to 192.168.10.120, the equipment IP is
>> set to 192.168.10.130. If you try to have them both on the same subnet
>> you'll end up with issues as Windows won't know which NIC to use to reach
>> the equipment and will try to default to the original one. By using fixed
>> IP addresses in a different subnet you solve that.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>
>>
>> "JT" <JT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:7302A32F-D3D6-4878-9824-C131059DE413@microsoft.com...
>>> Hey all again.....
>>>
>>> I have a windows XP 64 bit with dual processor (intel) gigabyte
>>> motherboard,
>>> 4gigs ram, onboard bigabyte ethernet controller set to automatically get
>>> an
>>> IP address, this card is connected to my 4 port routher and have an
>>> inhouse
>>> network.. I access the internet thru this controller..
>>>
>>> I have finally found a PCI ethernet card that is compatable with the
>>> 64bit
>>> OS.. There are several out there that are 64bit but need the PCI Express
>>> slot
>>> to work...this one works with the standard PCI slot.. A USrobotics
>>> 10/100/1000
>>>
>>> I have install the card and the software and it show up in the device
>>> manager and everywhere else.. and says it is working correctly....
>>>
>>> what Im doing with it is running a piece of equipment that uses a net
>>> connection, I was getting some screwy communications thru the router, so
>>> opted to go direct from an ethernet card...
>>>
>>> the equipment runs perfectly from the onboard adaptor with a setting of
>>> 192.168.0.120, the equipment IP is set to 192.168.0.130
>>>
>>> my problem is....I have set up the TCP/IP on the added 64bit card to
>>> 192.168.0.120, my equipment is set to 192.168.0.130
>>>
>>> I have tried several different options to get this to work...
>>>
>>> Not sure what to do here.. im an end user and not that great with
>>> network
>>> stuff...
>>>
>>> any help with this would be appreciated...
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>
>
>
 
Re: second ethernet card

So then, go into the Bios and disable the onboard nic... I've done that
before w/o any problems.



"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
news:0937563A-A42A-4253-BBA2-4685B3388379@microsoft.com...
> Then the computer would lose connectivity with the router. And it's NEVER
> a good idea to try to reuse an IP address from a card that is still
> present in the machine.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "Drew" <dam@dam.dam> wrote in message
> news:eIR9Hb7JIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Charlie,
>>
>> Couldn't you just disable the original onboard NIC through Network
>> Connections and use the same IP on the new card? Or did I misunderstand
>> the OP?
>>
>> Drew
>>
>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
>> news:CCC8BA28-68C4-4E1E-AFED-E4E089DC4265@microsoft.com...
>>> This isn't really a 64-bit question - it's a pure networking question.
>>> Would be the same in 32-bit Windows.
>>> That being said, there are several possibilities:
>>>
>>> 1.) you say you connected the equipment directly to the card. Normal
>>> cables expect to connect to a hub/switch and have the other equipment on
>>> the network connect to another port on the switch. If the two are
>>> directly connected, they need to have a cross-over cable between them,
>>> unless one of the NICs is "autosensing". Do you have a connection light?
>>> What is the status of the connection in XP?
>>>
>>> 2.) You can't put this second NIC at the same IP address as your
>>> original NIC. That's bad and won't work.
>>>
>>> 3.) You should really have the equipment and the second NIC on a
>>> completely different subnet (range of IP addresses). You can either
>>> change the ip addresses used by the 2nd NIC and the device, or you can
>>> change the addresses being handed out and used by the router and the
>>> original NIC. Change the 2nd NIC to 192.168.10.120, the equipment IP is
>>> set to 192.168.10.130. If you try to have them both on the same subnet
>>> you'll end up with issues as Windows won't know which NIC to use to
>>> reach the equipment and will try to default to the original one. By
>>> using fixed IP addresses in a different subnet you solve that.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Charlie.
>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>>
>>>
>>> "JT" <JT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:7302A32F-D3D6-4878-9824-C131059DE413@microsoft.com...
>>>> Hey all again.....
>>>>
>>>> I have a windows XP 64 bit with dual processor (intel) gigabyte
>>>> motherboard,
>>>> 4gigs ram, onboard bigabyte ethernet controller set to automatically
>>>> get an
>>>> IP address, this card is connected to my 4 port routher and have an
>>>> inhouse
>>>> network.. I access the internet thru this controller..
>>>>
>>>> I have finally found a PCI ethernet card that is compatable with the
>>>> 64bit
>>>> OS.. There are several out there that are 64bit but need the PCI
>>>> Express slot
>>>> to work...this one works with the standard PCI slot.. A USrobotics
>>>> 10/100/1000
>>>>
>>>> I have install the card and the software and it show up in the device
>>>> manager and everywhere else.. and says it is working correctly....
>>>>
>>>> what Im doing with it is running a piece of equipment that uses a net
>>>> connection, I was getting some screwy communications thru the router,
>>>> so
>>>> opted to go direct from an ethernet card...
>>>>
>>>> the equipment runs perfectly from the onboard adaptor with a setting of
>>>> 192.168.0.120, the equipment IP is set to 192.168.0.130
>>>>
>>>> my problem is....I have set up the TCP/IP on the added 64bit card to
>>>> 192.168.0.120, my equipment is set to 192.168.0.130
>>>>
>>>> I have tried several different options to get this to work...
>>>>
>>>> Not sure what to do here.. im an end user and not that great with
>>>> network
>>>> stuff...
>>>>
>>>> any help with this would be appreciated...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>
>>
>>
>
 
Re: second ethernet card

yes. But why? He still needs to connect to the router, he gains nothing by
trying to reuse that same address, and the next time he flashes his BIOS
he's got a conflict. And if that's 6 months from now, will he remember that
they have the same address? And all this to gain what, exactly?

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Gary J. Dikkema" <gary_d@cdir.ca> wrote in message
news:%23w8fLb8JIHA.6008@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> So then, go into the Bios and disable the onboard nic... I've done that
> before w/o any problems.
>
>
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> news:0937563A-A42A-4253-BBA2-4685B3388379@microsoft.com...
>> Then the computer would lose connectivity with the router. And it's NEVER
>> a good idea to try to reuse an IP address from a card that is still
>> present in the machine.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>
>>
>> "Drew" <dam@dam.dam> wrote in message
>> news:eIR9Hb7JIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Charlie,
>>>
>>> Couldn't you just disable the original onboard NIC through Network
>>> Connections and use the same IP on the new card? Or did I misunderstand
>>> the OP?
>>>
>>> Drew
>>>
>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>>> message news:CCC8BA28-68C4-4E1E-AFED-E4E089DC4265@microsoft.com...
>>>> This isn't really a 64-bit question - it's a pure networking question.
>>>> Would be the same in 32-bit Windows.
>>>> That being said, there are several possibilities:
>>>>
>>>> 1.) you say you connected the equipment directly to the card. Normal
>>>> cables expect to connect to a hub/switch and have the other equipment
>>>> on the network connect to another port on the switch. If the two are
>>>> directly connected, they need to have a cross-over cable between them,
>>>> unless one of the NICs is "autosensing". Do you have a connection
>>>> light? What is the status of the connection in XP?
>>>>
>>>> 2.) You can't put this second NIC at the same IP address as your
>>>> original NIC. That's bad and won't work.
>>>>
>>>> 3.) You should really have the equipment and the second NIC on a
>>>> completely different subnet (range of IP addresses). You can either
>>>> change the ip addresses used by the 2nd NIC and the device, or you can
>>>> change the addresses being handed out and used by the router and the
>>>> original NIC. Change the 2nd NIC to 192.168.10.120, the equipment IP is
>>>> set to 192.168.10.130. If you try to have them both on the same subnet
>>>> you'll end up with issues as Windows won't know which NIC to use to
>>>> reach the equipment and will try to default to the original one. By
>>>> using fixed IP addresses in a different subnet you solve that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Charlie.
>>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "JT" <JT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:7302A32F-D3D6-4878-9824-C131059DE413@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Hey all again.....
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a windows XP 64 bit with dual processor (intel) gigabyte
>>>>> motherboard,
>>>>> 4gigs ram, onboard bigabyte ethernet controller set to automatically
>>>>> get an
>>>>> IP address, this card is connected to my 4 port routher and have an
>>>>> inhouse
>>>>> network.. I access the internet thru this controller..
>>>>>
>>>>> I have finally found a PCI ethernet card that is compatable with the
>>>>> 64bit
>>>>> OS.. There are several out there that are 64bit but need the PCI
>>>>> Express slot
>>>>> to work...this one works with the standard PCI slot.. A USrobotics
>>>>> 10/100/1000
>>>>>
>>>>> I have install the card and the software and it show up in the device
>>>>> manager and everywhere else.. and says it is working correctly....
>>>>>
>>>>> what Im doing with it is running a piece of equipment that uses a net
>>>>> connection, I was getting some screwy communications thru the router,
>>>>> so
>>>>> opted to go direct from an ethernet card...
>>>>>
>>>>> the equipment runs perfectly from the onboard adaptor with a setting
>>>>> of
>>>>> 192.168.0.120, the equipment IP is set to 192.168.0.130
>>>>>
>>>>> my problem is....I have set up the TCP/IP on the added 64bit card to
>>>>> 192.168.0.120, my equipment is set to 192.168.0.130
>>>>>
>>>>> I have tried several different options to get this to work...
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure what to do here.. im an end user and not that great with
>>>>> network
>>>>> stuff...
>>>>>
>>>>> any help with this would be appreciated...
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
 
Re: second ethernet card

So the question is why is the IP being used??? OK, good comment then. <VBG>

However, I have done this and it's been more than 6 months and the Bios has
been flashed and there were NO ill effects. <VBG> (for me) Sorry Charlie...




"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
news:8CF1B131-4656-4660-B3A1-0B07B8DD88F0@microsoft.com...
> yes. But why? He still needs to connect to the router, he gains nothing by
> trying to reuse that same address, and the next time he flashes his BIOS
> he's got a conflict. And if that's 6 months from now, will he remember
> that they have the same address? And all this to gain what, exactly?
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "Gary J. Dikkema" <gary_d@cdir.ca> wrote in message
> news:%23w8fLb8JIHA.6008@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> So then, go into the Bios and disable the onboard nic... I've done that
>> before w/o any problems.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
>> news:0937563A-A42A-4253-BBA2-4685B3388379@microsoft.com...
>>> Then the computer would lose connectivity with the router. And it's
>>> NEVER a good idea to try to reuse an IP address from a card that is
>>> still present in the machine.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Charlie.
>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>>
>>>
>>> "Drew" <dam@dam.dam> wrote in message
>>> news:eIR9Hb7JIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Charlie,
>>>>
>>>> Couldn't you just disable the original onboard NIC through Network
>>>> Connections and use the same IP on the new card? Or did I
>>>> misunderstand the OP?
>>>>
>>>> Drew
>>>>
>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>>>> message news:CCC8BA28-68C4-4E1E-AFED-E4E089DC4265@microsoft.com...
>>>>> This isn't really a 64-bit question - it's a pure networking question.
>>>>> Would be the same in 32-bit Windows.
>>>>> That being said, there are several possibilities:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.) you say you connected the equipment directly to the card. Normal
>>>>> cables expect to connect to a hub/switch and have the other equipment
>>>>> on the network connect to another port on the switch. If the two are
>>>>> directly connected, they need to have a cross-over cable between them,
>>>>> unless one of the NICs is "autosensing". Do you have a connection
>>>>> light? What is the status of the connection in XP?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.) You can't put this second NIC at the same IP address as your
>>>>> original NIC. That's bad and won't work.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3.) You should really have the equipment and the second NIC on a
>>>>> completely different subnet (range of IP addresses). You can either
>>>>> change the ip addresses used by the 2nd NIC and the device, or you can
>>>>> change the addresses being handed out and used by the router and the
>>>>> original NIC. Change the 2nd NIC to 192.168.10.120, the equipment IP
>>>>> is set to 192.168.10.130. If you try to have them both on the same
>>>>> subnet you'll end up with issues as Windows won't know which NIC to
>>>>> use to reach the equipment and will try to default to the original
>>>>> one. By using fixed IP addresses in a different subnet you solve that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Charlie.
>>>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "JT" <JT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:7302A32F-D3D6-4878-9824-C131059DE413@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> Hey all again.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a windows XP 64 bit with dual processor (intel) gigabyte
>>>>>> motherboard,
>>>>>> 4gigs ram, onboard bigabyte ethernet controller set to automatically
>>>>>> get an
>>>>>> IP address, this card is connected to my 4 port routher and have an
>>>>>> inhouse
>>>>>> network.. I access the internet thru this controller..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have finally found a PCI ethernet card that is compatable with the
>>>>>> 64bit
>>>>>> OS.. There are several out there that are 64bit but need the PCI
>>>>>> Express slot
>>>>>> to work...this one works with the standard PCI slot.. A USrobotics
>>>>>> 10/100/1000
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have install the card and the software and it show up in the device
>>>>>> manager and everywhere else.. and says it is working correctly....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> what Im doing with it is running a piece of equipment that uses a net
>>>>>> connection, I was getting some screwy communications thru the router,
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> opted to go direct from an ethernet card...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the equipment runs perfectly from the onboard adaptor with a setting
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> 192.168.0.120, the equipment IP is set to 192.168.0.130
>>>>>>
>>>>>> my problem is....I have set up the TCP/IP on the added 64bit card to
>>>>>> 192.168.0.120, my equipment is set to 192.168.0.130
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have tried several different options to get this to work...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not sure what to do here.. im an end user and not that great with
>>>>>> network
>>>>>> stuff...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> any help with this would be appreciated...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
 
Re: second ethernet card

you must have one of those lucky BIOS's that will flash without resetting to
default. Heck, every time most ASUS mobos get flashed their USB reverts to
1.1 speed. :(

And yes, I'd expect you to remember and deal with it. ;)

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Gary J. Dikkema" <gary_d@cdir.ca> wrote in message
news:%23WRD0R$JIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> So the question is why is the IP being used??? OK, good comment then.
> <VBG>
>
> However, I have done this and it's been more than 6 months and the Bios
> has been flashed and there were NO ill effects. <VBG> (for me) Sorry
> Charlie...
>
>
>
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> news:8CF1B131-4656-4660-B3A1-0B07B8DD88F0@microsoft.com...
>> yes. But why? He still needs to connect to the router, he gains nothing
>> by trying to reuse that same address, and the next time he flashes his
>> BIOS he's got a conflict. And if that's 6 months from now, will he
>> remember that they have the same address? And all this to gain what,
>> exactly?
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>
>>
>> "Gary J. Dikkema" <gary_d@cdir.ca> wrote in message
>> news:%23w8fLb8JIHA.6008@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> So then, go into the Bios and disable the onboard nic... I've done that
>>> before w/o any problems.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>>> message news:0937563A-A42A-4253-BBA2-4685B3388379@microsoft.com...
>>>> Then the computer would lose connectivity with the router. And it's
>>>> NEVER a good idea to try to reuse an IP address from a card that is
>>>> still present in the machine.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Charlie.
>>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Drew" <dam@dam.dam> wrote in message
>>>> news:eIR9Hb7JIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Charlie,
>>>>>
>>>>> Couldn't you just disable the original onboard NIC through Network
>>>>> Connections and use the same IP on the new card? Or did I
>>>>> misunderstand the OP?
>>>>>
>>>>> Drew
>>>>>
>>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>>>>> message news:CCC8BA28-68C4-4E1E-AFED-E4E089DC4265@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> This isn't really a 64-bit question - it's a pure networking
>>>>>> question. Would be the same in 32-bit Windows.
>>>>>> That being said, there are several possibilities:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1.) you say you connected the equipment directly to the card. Normal
>>>>>> cables expect to connect to a hub/switch and have the other equipment
>>>>>> on the network connect to another port on the switch. If the two are
>>>>>> directly connected, they need to have a cross-over cable between
>>>>>> them, unless one of the NICs is "autosensing". Do you have a
>>>>>> connection light? What is the status of the connection in XP?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2.) You can't put this second NIC at the same IP address as your
>>>>>> original NIC. That's bad and won't work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3.) You should really have the equipment and the second NIC on a
>>>>>> completely different subnet (range of IP addresses). You can either
>>>>>> change the ip addresses used by the 2nd NIC and the device, or you
>>>>>> can change the addresses being handed out and used by the router and
>>>>>> the original NIC. Change the 2nd NIC to 192.168.10.120, the equipment
>>>>>> IP is set to 192.168.10.130. If you try to have them both on the same
>>>>>> subnet you'll end up with issues as Windows won't know which NIC to
>>>>>> use to reach the equipment and will try to default to the original
>>>>>> one. By using fixed IP addresses in a different subnet you solve
>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Charlie.
>>>>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "JT" <JT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:7302A32F-D3D6-4878-9824-C131059DE413@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> Hey all again.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a windows XP 64 bit with dual processor (intel) gigabyte
>>>>>>> motherboard,
>>>>>>> 4gigs ram, onboard bigabyte ethernet controller set to automatically
>>>>>>> get an
>>>>>>> IP address, this card is connected to my 4 port routher and have an
>>>>>>> inhouse
>>>>>>> network.. I access the internet thru this controller..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have finally found a PCI ethernet card that is compatable with the
>>>>>>> 64bit
>>>>>>> OS.. There are several out there that are 64bit but need the PCI
>>>>>>> Express slot
>>>>>>> to work...this one works with the standard PCI slot.. A USrobotics
>>>>>>> 10/100/1000
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have install the card and the software and it show up in the
>>>>>>> device
>>>>>>> manager and everywhere else.. and says it is working correctly....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> what Im doing with it is running a piece of equipment that uses a
>>>>>>> net
>>>>>>> connection, I was getting some screwy communications thru the
>>>>>>> router, so
>>>>>>> opted to go direct from an ethernet card...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the equipment runs perfectly from the onboard adaptor with a setting
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> 192.168.0.120, the equipment IP is set to 192.168.0.130
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> my problem is....I have set up the TCP/IP on the added 64bit card to
>>>>>>> 192.168.0.120, my equipment is set to 192.168.0.130
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have tried several different options to get this to work...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not sure what to do here.. im an end user and not that great with
>>>>>>> network
>>>>>>> stuff...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> any help with this would be appreciated...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
 
Re: second ethernet card

Charlie:
I have not used ASUS mobos lately but I can recall that there was a Windows
utility (ASUSUpdate) that could be used to download new BIOSes and flash from
within Windows.
That program had an option for retaining your current settings or resetting
them to their default.
I always opted for retaining my settings and never had any issues with that.
Don't know whether that utility runs in Vista.
Just saw an update of it (if you feel like trying) in www.station-drivers.com

Carlos

"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> you must have one of those lucky BIOS's that will flash without resetting to
> default. Heck, every time most ASUS mobos get flashed their USB reverts to
> 1.1 speed. :(
>
> And yes, I'd expect you to remember and deal with it. ;)
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "Gary J. Dikkema" <gary_d@cdir.ca> wrote in message
> news:%23WRD0R$JIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > So the question is why is the IP being used??? OK, good comment then.
> > <VBG>
> >
> > However, I have done this and it's been more than 6 months and the Bios
> > has been flashed and there were NO ill effects. <VBG> (for me) Sorry
> > Charlie...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> > news:8CF1B131-4656-4660-B3A1-0B07B8DD88F0@microsoft.com...
> >> yes. But why? He still needs to connect to the router, he gains nothing
> >> by trying to reuse that same address, and the next time he flashes his
> >> BIOS he's got a conflict. And if that's 6 months from now, will he
> >> remember that they have the same address? And all this to gain what,
> >> exactly?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Charlie.
> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
> >>
> >>
> >> "Gary J. Dikkema" <gary_d@cdir.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:%23w8fLb8JIHA.6008@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >>> So then, go into the Bios and disable the onboard nic... I've done that
> >>> before w/o any problems.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
> >>> message news:0937563A-A42A-4253-BBA2-4685B3388379@microsoft.com...
> >>>> Then the computer would lose connectivity with the router. And it's
> >>>> NEVER a good idea to try to reuse an IP address from a card that is
> >>>> still present in the machine.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Charlie.
> >>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> >>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "Drew" <dam@dam.dam> wrote in message
> >>>> news:eIR9Hb7JIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >>>>> Charlie,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Couldn't you just disable the original onboard NIC through Network
> >>>>> Connections and use the same IP on the new card? Or did I
> >>>>> misunderstand the OP?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Drew
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
> >>>>> message news:CCC8BA28-68C4-4E1E-AFED-E4E089DC4265@microsoft.com...
> >>>>>> This isn't really a 64-bit question - it's a pure networking
> >>>>>> question. Would be the same in 32-bit Windows.
> >>>>>> That being said, there are several possibilities:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 1.) you say you connected the equipment directly to the card. Normal
> >>>>>> cables expect to connect to a hub/switch and have the other equipment
> >>>>>> on the network connect to another port on the switch. If the two are
> >>>>>> directly connected, they need to have a cross-over cable between
> >>>>>> them, unless one of the NICs is "autosensing". Do you have a
> >>>>>> connection light? What is the status of the connection in XP?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2.) You can't put this second NIC at the same IP address as your
> >>>>>> original NIC. That's bad and won't work.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 3.) You should really have the equipment and the second NIC on a
> >>>>>> completely different subnet (range of IP addresses). You can either
> >>>>>> change the ip addresses used by the 2nd NIC and the device, or you
> >>>>>> can change the addresses being handed out and used by the router and
> >>>>>> the original NIC. Change the 2nd NIC to 192.168.10.120, the equipment
> >>>>>> IP is set to 192.168.10.130. If you try to have them both on the same
> >>>>>> subnet you'll end up with issues as Windows won't know which NIC to
> >>>>>> use to reach the equipment and will try to default to the original
> >>>>>> one. By using fixed IP addresses in a different subnet you solve
> >>>>>> that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Charlie.
> >>>>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> >>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "JT" <JT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:7302A32F-D3D6-4878-9824-C131059DE413@microsoft.com...
> >>>>>>> Hey all again.....
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have a windows XP 64 bit with dual processor (intel) gigabyte
> >>>>>>> motherboard,
> >>>>>>> 4gigs ram, onboard bigabyte ethernet controller set to automatically
> >>>>>>> get an
> >>>>>>> IP address, this card is connected to my 4 port routher and have an
> >>>>>>> inhouse
> >>>>>>> network.. I access the internet thru this controller..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have finally found a PCI ethernet card that is compatable with the
> >>>>>>> 64bit
> >>>>>>> OS.. There are several out there that are 64bit but need the PCI
> >>>>>>> Express slot
> >>>>>>> to work...this one works with the standard PCI slot.. A USrobotics
> >>>>>>> 10/100/1000
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have install the card and the software and it show up in the
> >>>>>>> device
> >>>>>>> manager and everywhere else.. and says it is working correctly....
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> what Im doing with it is running a piece of equipment that uses a
> >>>>>>> net
> >>>>>>> connection, I was getting some screwy communications thru the
> >>>>>>> router, so
> >>>>>>> opted to go direct from an ethernet card...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> the equipment runs perfectly from the onboard adaptor with a setting
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>> 192.168.0.120, the equipment IP is set to 192.168.0.130
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> my problem is....I have set up the TCP/IP on the added 64bit card to
> >>>>>>> 192.168.0.120, my equipment is set to 192.168.0.130
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have tried several different options to get this to work...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Not sure what to do here.. im an end user and not that great with
> >>>>>>> network
> >>>>>>> stuff...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> any help with this would be appreciated...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks in advance
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>
 
Re: second ethernet card

Yep, have used that for various mobos.

However, AFTER flashing I always go thru the Bios to ensure the settings are
the way 'they should be'.

Cheers!

"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5807B2FB-DED8-4CDF-8EA9-08DC2DFEFAED@microsoft.com...
> Charlie:
> I have not used ASUS mobos lately but I can recall that there was a
> Windows
> utility (ASUSUpdate) that could be used to download new BIOSes and flash
> from
> within Windows.
> That program had an option for retaining your current settings or
> resetting
> them to their default.
> I always opted for retaining my settings and never had any issues with
> that.
> Don't know whether that utility runs in Vista.
> Just saw an update of it (if you feel like trying) in
> www.station-drivers.com
>
> Carlos
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:
>
>> you must have one of those lucky BIOS's that will flash without resetting
>> to
>> default. Heck, every time most ASUS mobos get flashed their USB reverts
>> to
>> 1.1 speed. :(
>>
>> And yes, I'd expect you to remember and deal with it. ;)
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>
>>
>> "Gary J. Dikkema" <gary_d@cdir.ca> wrote in message
>> news:%23WRD0R$JIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> > So the question is why is the IP being used??? OK, good comment then.
>> > <VBG>
>> >
>> > However, I have done this and it's been more than 6 months and the Bios
>> > has been flashed and there were NO ill effects. <VBG> (for me) Sorry
>> > Charlie...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>> > message
>> > news:8CF1B131-4656-4660-B3A1-0B07B8DD88F0@microsoft.com...
>> >> yes. But why? He still needs to connect to the router, he gains
>> >> nothing
>> >> by trying to reuse that same address, and the next time he flashes his
>> >> BIOS he's got a conflict. And if that's 6 months from now, will he
>> >> remember that they have the same address? And all this to gain what,
>> >> exactly?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Charlie.
>> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Gary J. Dikkema" <gary_d@cdir.ca> wrote in message
>> >> news:%23w8fLb8JIHA.6008@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >>> So then, go into the Bios and disable the onboard nic... I've done
>> >>> that
>> >>> before w/o any problems.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>> >>> message news:0937563A-A42A-4253-BBA2-4685B3388379@microsoft.com...
>> >>>> Then the computer would lose connectivity with the router. And it's
>> >>>> NEVER a good idea to try to reuse an IP address from a card that is
>> >>>> still present in the machine.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Charlie.
>> >>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>> >>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "Drew" <dam@dam.dam> wrote in message
>> >>>> news:eIR9Hb7JIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >>>>> Charlie,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Couldn't you just disable the original onboard NIC through Network
>> >>>>> Connections and use the same IP on the new card? Or did I
>> >>>>> misunderstand the OP?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Drew
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>> >>>>> message news:CCC8BA28-68C4-4E1E-AFED-E4E089DC4265@microsoft.com...
>> >>>>>> This isn't really a 64-bit question - it's a pure networking
>> >>>>>> question. Would be the same in 32-bit Windows.
>> >>>>>> That being said, there are several possibilities:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 1.) you say you connected the equipment directly to the card.
>> >>>>>> Normal
>> >>>>>> cables expect to connect to a hub/switch and have the other
>> >>>>>> equipment
>> >>>>>> on the network connect to another port on the switch. If the two
>> >>>>>> are
>> >>>>>> directly connected, they need to have a cross-over cable between
>> >>>>>> them, unless one of the NICs is "autosensing". Do you have a
>> >>>>>> connection light? What is the status of the connection in XP?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 2.) You can't put this second NIC at the same IP address as your
>> >>>>>> original NIC. That's bad and won't work.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 3.) You should really have the equipment and the second NIC on a
>> >>>>>> completely different subnet (range of IP addresses). You can
>> >>>>>> either
>> >>>>>> change the ip addresses used by the 2nd NIC and the device, or you
>> >>>>>> can change the addresses being handed out and used by the router
>> >>>>>> and
>> >>>>>> the original NIC. Change the 2nd NIC to 192.168.10.120, the
>> >>>>>> equipment
>> >>>>>> IP is set to 192.168.10.130. If you try to have them both on the
>> >>>>>> same
>> >>>>>> subnet you'll end up with issues as Windows won't know which NIC
>> >>>>>> to
>> >>>>>> use to reach the equipment and will try to default to the original
>> >>>>>> one. By using fixed IP addresses in a different subnet you solve
>> >>>>>> that.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>> Charlie.
>> >>>>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>> >>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> "JT" <JT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>>> news:7302A32F-D3D6-4878-9824-C131059DE413@microsoft.com...
>> >>>>>>> Hey all again.....
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I have a windows XP 64 bit with dual processor (intel) gigabyte
>> >>>>>>> motherboard,
>> >>>>>>> 4gigs ram, onboard bigabyte ethernet controller set to
>> >>>>>>> automatically
>> >>>>>>> get an
>> >>>>>>> IP address, this card is connected to my 4 port routher and have
>> >>>>>>> an
>> >>>>>>> inhouse
>> >>>>>>> network.. I access the internet thru this controller..
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I have finally found a PCI ethernet card that is compatable with
>> >>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>> 64bit
>> >>>>>>> OS.. There are several out there that are 64bit but need the PCI
>> >>>>>>> Express slot
>> >>>>>>> to work...this one works with the standard PCI slot.. A
>> >>>>>>> USrobotics
>> >>>>>>> 10/100/1000
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I have install the card and the software and it show up in the
>> >>>>>>> device
>> >>>>>>> manager and everywhere else.. and says it is working
>> >>>>>>> correctly....
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> what Im doing with it is running a piece of equipment that uses a
>> >>>>>>> net
>> >>>>>>> connection, I was getting some screwy communications thru the
>> >>>>>>> router, so
>> >>>>>>> opted to go direct from an ethernet card...
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> the equipment runs perfectly from the onboard adaptor with a
>> >>>>>>> setting
>> >>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>> 192.168.0.120, the equipment IP is set to 192.168.0.130
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> my problem is....I have set up the TCP/IP on the added 64bit card
>> >>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>> 192.168.0.120, my equipment is set to 192.168.0.130
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I have tried several different options to get this to work...
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Not sure what to do here.. im an end user and not that great with
>> >>>>>>> network
>> >>>>>>> stuff...
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> any help with this would be appreciated...
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Thanks in advance
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
 
Re: second ethernet card

Oh, yes, I've used that utility. It never actually managed to save them all.
I always end up having to check the settings anyway.

Oh, and yes, I'm pretty sure it runs in Vista.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5807B2FB-DED8-4CDF-8EA9-08DC2DFEFAED@microsoft.com...
> Charlie:
> I have not used ASUS mobos lately but I can recall that there was a
> Windows
> utility (ASUSUpdate) that could be used to download new BIOSes and flash
> from
> within Windows.
> That program had an option for retaining your current settings or
> resetting
> them to their default.
> I always opted for retaining my settings and never had any issues with
> that.
> Don't know whether that utility runs in Vista.
> Just saw an update of it (if you feel like trying) in
> www.station-drivers.com
>
> Carlos
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:
>
>> you must have one of those lucky BIOS's that will flash without resetting
>> to
>> default. Heck, every time most ASUS mobos get flashed their USB reverts
>> to
>> 1.1 speed. :(
>>
>> And yes, I'd expect you to remember and deal with it. ;)
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>
>>
>> "Gary J. Dikkema" <gary_d@cdir.ca> wrote in message
>> news:%23WRD0R$JIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> > So the question is why is the IP being used??? OK, good comment then.
>> > <VBG>
>> >
>> > However, I have done this and it's been more than 6 months and the Bios
>> > has been flashed and there were NO ill effects. <VBG> (for me) Sorry
>> > Charlie...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>> > message
>> > news:8CF1B131-4656-4660-B3A1-0B07B8DD88F0@microsoft.com...
>> >> yes. But why? He still needs to connect to the router, he gains
>> >> nothing
>> >> by trying to reuse that same address, and the next time he flashes his
>> >> BIOS he's got a conflict. And if that's 6 months from now, will he
>> >> remember that they have the same address? And all this to gain what,
>> >> exactly?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Charlie.
>> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Gary J. Dikkema" <gary_d@cdir.ca> wrote in message
>> >> news:%23w8fLb8JIHA.6008@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >>> So then, go into the Bios and disable the onboard nic... I've done
>> >>> that
>> >>> before w/o any problems.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>> >>> message news:0937563A-A42A-4253-BBA2-4685B3388379@microsoft.com...
>> >>>> Then the computer would lose connectivity with the router. And it's
>> >>>> NEVER a good idea to try to reuse an IP address from a card that is
>> >>>> still present in the machine.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Charlie.
>> >>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>> >>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "Drew" <dam@dam.dam> wrote in message
>> >>>> news:eIR9Hb7JIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >>>>> Charlie,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Couldn't you just disable the original onboard NIC through Network
>> >>>>> Connections and use the same IP on the new card? Or did I
>> >>>>> misunderstand the OP?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Drew
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>> >>>>> message news:CCC8BA28-68C4-4E1E-AFED-E4E089DC4265@microsoft.com...
>> >>>>>> This isn't really a 64-bit question - it's a pure networking
>> >>>>>> question. Would be the same in 32-bit Windows.
>> >>>>>> That being said, there are several possibilities:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 1.) you say you connected the equipment directly to the card.
>> >>>>>> Normal
>> >>>>>> cables expect to connect to a hub/switch and have the other
>> >>>>>> equipment
>> >>>>>> on the network connect to another port on the switch. If the two
>> >>>>>> are
>> >>>>>> directly connected, they need to have a cross-over cable between
>> >>>>>> them, unless one of the NICs is "autosensing". Do you have a
>> >>>>>> connection light? What is the status of the connection in XP?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 2.) You can't put this second NIC at the same IP address as your
>> >>>>>> original NIC. That's bad and won't work.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 3.) You should really have the equipment and the second NIC on a
>> >>>>>> completely different subnet (range of IP addresses). You can
>> >>>>>> either
>> >>>>>> change the ip addresses used by the 2nd NIC and the device, or you
>> >>>>>> can change the addresses being handed out and used by the router
>> >>>>>> and
>> >>>>>> the original NIC. Change the 2nd NIC to 192.168.10.120, the
>> >>>>>> equipment
>> >>>>>> IP is set to 192.168.10.130. If you try to have them both on the
>> >>>>>> same
>> >>>>>> subnet you'll end up with issues as Windows won't know which NIC
>> >>>>>> to
>> >>>>>> use to reach the equipment and will try to default to the original
>> >>>>>> one. By using fixed IP addresses in a different subnet you solve
>> >>>>>> that.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>> Charlie.
>> >>>>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>> >>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> "JT" <JT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>>> news:7302A32F-D3D6-4878-9824-C131059DE413@microsoft.com...
>> >>>>>>> Hey all again.....
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I have a windows XP 64 bit with dual processor (intel) gigabyte
>> >>>>>>> motherboard,
>> >>>>>>> 4gigs ram, onboard bigabyte ethernet controller set to
>> >>>>>>> automatically
>> >>>>>>> get an
>> >>>>>>> IP address, this card is connected to my 4 port routher and have
>> >>>>>>> an
>> >>>>>>> inhouse
>> >>>>>>> network.. I access the internet thru this controller..
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I have finally found a PCI ethernet card that is compatable with
>> >>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>> 64bit
>> >>>>>>> OS.. There are several out there that are 64bit but need the PCI
>> >>>>>>> Express slot
>> >>>>>>> to work...this one works with the standard PCI slot.. A
>> >>>>>>> USrobotics
>> >>>>>>> 10/100/1000
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I have install the card and the software and it show up in the
>> >>>>>>> device
>> >>>>>>> manager and everywhere else.. and says it is working
>> >>>>>>> correctly....
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> what Im doing with it is running a piece of equipment that uses a
>> >>>>>>> net
>> >>>>>>> connection, I was getting some screwy communications thru the
>> >>>>>>> router, so
>> >>>>>>> opted to go direct from an ethernet card...
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> the equipment runs perfectly from the onboard adaptor with a
>> >>>>>>> setting
>> >>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>> 192.168.0.120, the equipment IP is set to 192.168.0.130
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> my problem is....I have set up the TCP/IP on the added 64bit card
>> >>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>> 192.168.0.120, my equipment is set to 192.168.0.130
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I have tried several different options to get this to work...
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Not sure what to do here.. im an end user and not that great with
>> >>>>>>> network
>> >>>>>>> stuff...
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> any help with this would be appreciated...
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Thanks in advance
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
 
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