TSCALs + CALS (W2003)?

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We are planning our purchases for next year. We are planning to set up 3
W2003 servers. 2 Citrix PS 4.5 servers (new farm to replace the current
PS4/W2K farm). The 3rd is a "Utility" server (no TS).

I know we will need 3 server licenses as well as 125 "Per Device"
TSCALs. My question is how many CALs will I need? 125 or 3x125?
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Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services
 
Re: TSCALs + CALS (W2003)?

I assume that you have 125 workstations?

Just like in W2K, the number of server CALs that you need depends
on the licensing mode that you choose for the servers: "Per Device
or Per User" licensing mode (was called "Per Seat" in W2K) or "Per
Server".

With multiple servers, it's nearly always best to choose the "Per
Device or Per User" licensing mode, which means that you need a
single server CAL for each device / user. In your case: 125 CALs.

The only scenario where the "Per Server" licensing mode with
multiple servers is cheaper is when you have many workstations, but
only a few of them are connecting to the server simultaneously,
since the "Per Server" licensing is per concurrent usage.
Example: assume you have a total of 125 workstations, but only 40
of them connect simultaneously. In "Per Server" licensing mode, you
would need 3 * 40 = 120 CALs, which is slightly cheaper.

Documented here:

Licensing Overview for Windows Server 2003
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/howtobuy/licensing/overv
iew.mspx

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MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
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"Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote on 18 nov 2007 in
microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> We are planning our purchases for next year. We are planning to
> set up 3 W2003 servers. 2 Citrix PS 4.5 servers (new farm to
> replace the current PS4/W2K farm). The 3rd is a "Utility" server
> (no TS).
>
> I know we will need 3 server licenses as well as 125 "Per
> Device" TSCALs. My question is how many CALs will I need? 125 or
> 3x125?
 
Re: TSCALs + CALS (W2003)?

As usual, exactly what I was looking for.... Thanks, Vera....

--

Regards,
Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services

Vera Noest [MVP] wrote:
> I assume that you have 125 workstations?
>
> Just like in W2K, the number of server CALs that you need depends
> on the licensing mode that you choose for the servers: "Per Device
> or Per User" licensing mode (was called "Per Seat" in W2K) or "Per
> Server".
>
> With multiple servers, it's nearly always best to choose the "Per
> Device or Per User" licensing mode, which means that you need a
> single server CAL for each device / user. In your case: 125 CALs.
>
> The only scenario where the "Per Server" licensing mode with
> multiple servers is cheaper is when you have many workstations, but
> only a few of them are connecting to the server simultaneously,
> since the "Per Server" licensing is per concurrent usage.
> Example: assume you have a total of 125 workstations, but only 40
> of them connect simultaneously. In "Per Server" licensing mode, you
> would need 3 * 40 = 120 CALs, which is slightly cheaper.
>
> Documented here:
>
> Licensing Overview for Windows Server 2003
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/howtobuy/licensing/overv
> iew.mspx
>
> _________________________________________________________
> Vera Noest
> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>
> "Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote on 18 nov 2007 in
> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>
>> We are planning our purchases for next year. We are planning to
>> set up 3 W2003 servers. 2 Citrix PS 4.5 servers (new farm to
>> replace the current PS4/W2K farm). The 3rd is a "Utility" server
>> (no TS).
>>
>> I know we will need 3 server licenses as well as 125 "Per
>> Device" TSCALs. My question is how many CALs will I need? 125 or
>> 3x125?

As usual, exeactly what I was looking for.... Thanks, Vera....

--

Regards,
Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services
 
Re: TSCALs + CALS (W2003)?

You're welcome, Hank!
_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

"Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote on 19 nov 2007 in
microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> As usual, exactly what I was looking for.... Thanks, Vera....
 
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