Re: Windows 2003 Terminal Services Licensing
First of all: Terminal Services licensing (TS CALs) are *not* per
concurrent usage, it is per specific user or device. So if all of
your 30 remote users/devices and 20 local users/devices connect to
the TS, you would need 50 TS CALs, not 30. But maybe your 20 local
intranet users don't connect to the TS?
Windows Server CALs:
There are 2 different licensing modes for server CALs: "Per
Server" mode and "Per Device or Per User" mode (used to be called
"Per Seat" in W2K).
As long as you have only a single server, it doesn't matter much
which licensing mode your server is in. Since you have 2 servers
(and maybe more, don't you have a separate DC?), the licensing mode
becomes important.
"Per Device or Per User": you need one (1) server CAL for every
user or client; this gives them the right to connect to any number
of servers with a single server CAL.
This is most likely the licensing mode that you want on your
servers. It becomes cheaper, the more servers you have.
"Per Server": on *each* server, you need as many server CALs as the
the maximum number of *simultaneous* connections to the server.
This licensing mode is cheaper if you have a high number of clients
or users, but a low number of *concurrent* clients / users.
Details here:
Licensing Overview for Windows Server 2003
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/howtobuy/licensing/overv
iew.mspx
_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting:
http://ts.veranoest.net
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=?Utf-8?B?TVNoYXdSTVRE?= <MShawRMTD@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote on 21 nov 2007 in
microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
> Will we need a Windows Server CAL for both servers or just the
> one to pair with the TS CAL for each Terminal Server User.
>
> Let me see if I grasp this correctly.
> If we have two servers, both running Terminal Services in
> Application Mode, with 30 Remote Users at Maximum, and 20 Local
> Intranet Users. We would nee 30 TS CALs, and 100 Windows Server
> CALs.
>
> or would we only need 70 Windows Server CALs?
>
> Thanks again.
> MShawRMTD
>
> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> One TS CAL is sufficient to connect to all of your Terminal
>> Servers.
>>
>> There's something else that you have to decide, though: whether
>> you need Per User or Per Device TS CALs. In W2K, there exists
>> only one type of TS CAL, which is always Per Device. In 2003,
>> you can choose. The possibilities to change license type after
>> you have bought them are limited, so it's important to make the
>> right decision from the beginning.
>> Here's how to choose:
>>
>> * if you have more users than clients (like in a classroom or
>> multiple shift situation, where several people connect to the
>> TS from shared workstations), then Per Device licensing is
>> cheaper.
>>
>> * if you have more clients than users (users connect from
>> multiple clients, i.e their office PC, a laptop and their home
>> PC), then Per User licensing is cheaper.
>>
>> _________________________________________________________
>> Vera Noest
>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
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>>
>> =?Utf-8?B?TVNoYXdSTVRE?= <MShawRMTD@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> wrote on 20 nov 2007 in
>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>>
>> > Yes, I mean Windows Server CAL. Thank you for that.
>> >
>> > Now my question is if two servers both have Terminal Services
>> > installed in Application Mode, and have 20 users connecting
>> > to both, will we need 20 TS CALs for both servers or will 20
>> > TS CALs installed on the licensing server give the user
>> > access to each Terminal Server installation?
>> >
>> > Matthew Shaw
>> >
>> > "Rob Leitman [MS]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> By "Local CAL" do you mean "Windows Server CAL"? Then yes,
>> >> that's the case. Every workstation that accesses the TS
>> >> needs both a TS CAL and a Windows Server CAL.
>> >>
>> >> Rob
>> >>
>> >> "MShawRMTD" <MShawRMTD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> message
>> >> news:ECFC648B-A931-4068-80FF-A8ECF5AC4651@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Hello,
>> >> >
>> >> > I am an inhouse support technician for a Transit agency.
>> >> > We currently have
>> >> > a Windows 2000 Terminal Server hosting our backoffice
>> >> > software to our remote
>> >> > offices.
>> >> >
>> >> > We are currently looking at getting two new servers. But
>> >> > I am unsure of what licenses I would need to setup for
>> >> > these. I have been told that for every TS CAL i will need
>> >> > a Local CAL. Is this correct?
>> >> >
>> >> > Example:
>> >> > 20 Local Workstations = 20 Local CALS
>> >> > 25 Remote Workstations = 25 TS CALs + 25 Local Cals
>> >> > for a total of 45 Local CALs and 35 TS CALs