New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07

[Alias]

Alias

 

[Shane]

Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07

Here's a funny one. I tried to install it in Server 2008 beta - which is
essentially the corporate version of Vista afaics. Certainly Vista builds of
just about everything install. Not Ad-aware 2007.

The previous one does though! ROFL! So I've got the old build running in it!


Shane

Alias wrote:
> Alias

 

[Mike M]

Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07

> Here's a funny one. I tried to install it in Server 2008 beta - which
> is essentially the corporate version of Vista afaics

Not at all and very different Shane. Server 2008 is a very locked down
updated W2K3 rather than Vista which is a client OS and not a server. OK,
I know you know this but ...
--
Mike M


Shane <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote:

> Here's a funny one. I tried to install it in Server 2008 beta - which
> is essentially the corporate version of Vista afaics. Certainly Vista
> builds of just about everything install. Not Ad-aware 2007.
>
> The previous one does though! ROFL! So I've got the old build running
> in it!

 

[Shane]

Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07

Mike M wrote:
>> Here's a funny one. I tried to install it in Server 2008 beta - which
>> is essentially the corporate version of Vista afaics
>
> Not at all and very different Shane. Server 2008 is a very locked
> down updated W2K3 rather than Vista which is a client OS and not a
> server. OK, I know you know this but ...

Yes. I'm not very precise these days. Maybe I never was, but I guess that's
for other's to say. But I spend so much time grasping for words...possibly I
should add a sig warning people not to take me *too* literally!

It bugs me.

Anyhow, first I saw of the 'Enhanced Security' was when it offered a printer
driver update - which I figured I ought to download - and it blocked the
..exe as if it were a web site! And then it blocked Microsoft.com! And then I
disabled it for the Internet Zone.

I was about to work my way through Group Policy but was immediately informed
I had to log on as a member of a domain. I thought being logged on as
Administrator would be enough! The Administrator who installed the damn
thing!

Anyhow, that's it for now. I expect I shall play a litlle longer, but I've
just been reading JSWare's piece on Vista:
http://www.jsware.net/jsware/ditips.php3#vist and am tending towards
removing this one and harrassing politicians for letting M$ do what they
want, instead.


Shane

>
>> Here's a funny one. I tried to install it in Server 2008 beta - which
>> is essentially the corporate version of Vista afaics. Certainly Vista
>> builds of just about everything install. Not Ad-aware 2007.
>>
>> The previous one does though! ROFL! So I've got the old build running
>> in it!

 

[jeanette]

Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07

could someone plz post the link to the latest defs?
i have been around and around and around adawares site, but do you
think i could find a link to the defs page....... ? NO.
i even googled.
why the heck do companies always make it hard to find what people
really want at their sites?

J

"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
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> Alias

 

[Ogg]

JSWare's piece on Vista

JSWare's piece on Vista

Kudos to JSWare. Enough is enough.


"Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote ..
> Anyhow, that's it for now. I expect I shall play a litlle longer, but I've
> just been reading JSWare's piece on Vista:
> http://www.jsware.net/jsware/ditips.php3#vist and am tending towards
> removing this one and harrassing politicians for letting M$ do what they
> want, instead.

 

[Mike M]

Re: JSWare's piece on Vista

Re: JSWare's piece on Vista

Ogg <no-spam-wanted@at.all> wrote:

> Kudos to JSWare. Enough is enough.

Much that I dislike Vista their recommendation "should run without
problems if you disable the "User Account Control" (UAC) function which
limits your access to your files, and if you run as "Administrator"
(without restricted permission)." smacks of total ignorance. UAC
certainly does not restrict access to "your files" although it does
restrict access to actions requiring a permission higher than the current
user. Disabling UAC as recommended whilst solving one problem is going to
cause a cascade of other problems for the user regardless of their
privileges.

Nevertheless I agree that their statement "In fact, much of the JSWare
freeware has been specifically designed not to run on Windows Vista at
all, in order to avoid unnecessary confusion for people using Windows
Vista, and also to avoid unnecessary support queries at JSWare." has much
to commend it.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com

 

[Shane]

Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07

It isn't really hard to find the defs at Lavasoft, much as I hate *not* to
rubbish them. Anyhow, if you're talking about the old Ad-aware, they seem to
have stopped providing definitions for it. At least for some time my copy
has quit downloading at 5% with an error. I've tried this in numerous
different systems and it fails at 5% on all of them. Of course that may be
they're all set to the same and only one server - but still...

At the home page, hover over 'Download and buy' and in the drop down list is
'Definition file updates'. I just updated that way and it is for the old
one.

Shane



jeanette wrote:
> could someone plz post the link to the latest defs?
> i have been around and around and around adawares site, but do you
> think i could find a link to the defs page....... ? NO.
> i even googled.
> why the heck do companies always make it hard to find what people
> really want at their sites?
>
> J
>
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
> news:u4R2aE6xHHA.5964@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Alias

 

[Heather]

Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07

I still update thru the old program. Must be your server.

Figgs

"Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23R$gwDIyHHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> It isn't really hard to find the defs at Lavasoft, much as I hate
> *not* to rubbish them. Anyhow, if you're talking about the old
> Ad-aware, they seem to have stopped providing definitions for it. At
> least for some time my copy has quit downloading at 5% with an error.
> I've tried this in numerous different systems and it fails at 5% on
> all of them. Of course that may be they're all set to the same and
> only one server - but still...
>
> At the home page, hover over 'Download and buy' and in the drop down
> list is 'Definition file updates'. I just updated that way and it is
> for the old one.
>
> Shane
>
>
>
> jeanette wrote:
>> could someone plz post the link to the latest defs?
>> i have been around and around and around adawares site, but do you
>> think i could find a link to the defs page....... ? NO.
>> i even googled.
>> why the heck do companies always make it hard to find what people
>> really want at their sites?
>>
>> J
>>
>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>> news:u4R2aE6xHHA.5964@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Alias
>
>

 

[Shane]

Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07

Yes, well, *their* server.


Heather wrote:
> I still update thru the old program. Must be your server.
>
> Figgs
>
> "Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23R$gwDIyHHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> It isn't really hard to find the defs at Lavasoft, much as I hate
>> *not* to rubbish them. Anyhow, if you're talking about the old
>> Ad-aware, they seem to have stopped providing definitions for it. At
>> least for some time my copy has quit downloading at 5% with an error.
>> I've tried this in numerous different systems and it fails at 5% on
>> all of them. Of course that may be they're all set to the same and
>> only one server - but still...
>>
>> At the home page, hover over 'Download and buy' and in the drop down
>> list is 'Definition file updates'. I just updated that way and it is
>> for the old one.
>>
>> Shane
>>
>>
>>
>> jeanette wrote:
>>> could someone plz post the link to the latest defs?
>>> i have been around and around and around adawares site, but do you
>>> think i could find a link to the defs page....... ? NO.
>>> i even googled.
>>> why the heck do companies always make it hard to find what people
>>> really want at their sites?
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>>> news:u4R2aE6xHHA.5964@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Alias

 

[Joan Archer]

Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07

I'm still getting the updates on Kelly and John's machines, I use the new
one on mine.
Joan


Shane wrote:
> It isn't really hard to find the defs at Lavasoft, much as I hate
> *not* to rubbish them. Anyhow, if you're talking about the old
> Ad-aware, they seem to have stopped providing definitions for it. At
> least for some time my copy has quit downloading at 5% with an error.
> I've tried this in numerous different systems and it fails at 5% on
> all of them. Of course that may be they're all set to the same and
> only one server - but still...
> At the home page, hover over 'Download and buy' and in the drop down
> list is 'Definition file updates'. I just updated that way and it is
> for the old one.
>
> Shane
>
>
>

 

[Heather]

Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07

Oops.....misread that one. Oh well, whatever. (G)

"Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OS$5jkIyHHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Yes, well, *their* server.
>
>
> Heather wrote:
>> I still update thru the old program. Must be your server.
>>
>> Figgs
>>
>> "Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23R$gwDIyHHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> It isn't really hard to find the defs at Lavasoft, much as I hate
>>> *not* to rubbish them. Anyhow, if you're talking about the old
>>> Ad-aware, they seem to have stopped providing definitions for it. At
>>> least for some time my copy has quit downloading at 5% with an
>>> error.
>>> I've tried this in numerous different systems and it fails at 5% on
>>> all of them. Of course that may be they're all set to the same and
>>> only one server - but still...
>>>
>>> At the home page, hover over 'Download and buy' and in the drop down
>>> list is 'Definition file updates'. I just updated that way and it is
>>> for the old one.
>>>
>>> Shane
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> jeanette wrote:
>>>> could someone plz post the link to the latest defs?
>>>> i have been around and around and around adawares site, but do you
>>>> think i could find a link to the defs page....... ? NO.
>>>> i even googled.
>>>> why the heck do companies always make it hard to find what people
>>>> really want at their sites?
>>>>
>>>> J
>>>>
>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>>>> news:u4R2aE6xHHA.5964@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Alias
>
>

 

[Shane]

Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07

I just decided Tiscali seem to be having problems lately and wondering if
they're to blame for the Ad-aware def issue. Tiscali are becoming widely
known to be basically crap hopeless. Just they're better than Tesco.


Joan Archer wrote:
> I'm still getting the updates on Kelly and John's machines, I use the
> new one on mine.
> Joan
>
>
> Shane wrote:
>> It isn't really hard to find the defs at Lavasoft, much as I hate
>> *not* to rubbish them. Anyhow, if you're talking about the old
>> Ad-aware, they seem to have stopped providing definitions for it. At
>> least for some time my copy has quit downloading at 5% with an error.
>> I've tried this in numerous different systems and it fails at 5% on
>> all of them. Of course that may be they're all set to the same and
>> only one server - but still...
>> At the home page, hover over 'Download and buy' and in the drop down
>> list is 'Definition file updates'. I just updated that way and it is
>> for the old one.
>>
>> Shane

 

[Shane]

Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07

Yes well depends who you mean by 'your', I suppose. If you meant 'your isp'
perhaps you'd be right. I am beginning to wonder. If it is - I am getting
sick to the back teeth of incompetence in the UK/European isp biz. Though
from what I've heard over the years, the ones that side of the pond are as
bad.

And then again, as I'm running Server 2008 beta, you could be forgiven for
thinking I'm running one! Well, i suppose I am, only its serving sod all,
not even a round of cheese and pickle sandwiches!


Heather wrote:
> Oops.....misread that one. Oh well, whatever. (G)
>
> "Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OS$5jkIyHHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Yes, well, *their* server.
>>
>>
>> Heather wrote:
>>> I still update thru the old program. Must be your server.
>>>
>>> Figgs
>>>
>>> "Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23R$gwDIyHHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> It isn't really hard to find the defs at Lavasoft, much as I hate
>>>> *not* to rubbish them. Anyhow, if you're talking about the old
>>>> Ad-aware, they seem to have stopped providing definitions for it.
>>>> At least for some time my copy has quit downloading at 5% with an
>>>> error.
>>>> I've tried this in numerous different systems and it fails at 5% on
>>>> all of them. Of course that may be they're all set to the same and
>>>> only one server - but still...
>>>>
>>>> At the home page, hover over 'Download and buy' and in the drop
>>>> down list is 'Definition file updates'. I just updated that way
>>>> and it is for the old one.
>>>>
>>>> Shane
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> jeanette wrote:
>>>>> could someone plz post the link to the latest defs?
>>>>> i have been around and around and around adawares site, but do you
>>>>> think i could find a link to the defs page....... ? NO.
>>>>> i even googled.
>>>>> why the heck do companies always make it hard to find what people
>>>>> really want at their sites?
>>>>>
>>>>> J
>>>>>
>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>>>>> news:u4R2aE6xHHA.5964@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Alias

 

[Alias]

Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07

Shane wrote:
> Yes well depends who you mean by 'your', I suppose. If you meant 'your isp'
> perhaps you'd be right. I am beginning to wonder. If it is - I am getting
> sick to the back teeth of incompetence in the UK/European isp biz. Though
> from what I've heard over the years, the ones that side of the pond are as
> bad.

I'm pretty happy with ONO cable at 4MB/300KB. I also love being able to
see CNN again. When I got here in '90, Spain only had two government
controlled channels, 1 and 2. No commercials but the shows generally
sucked. Now I can watch Prison Break in English and I have over 60 channels!

Alias
>
> And then again, as I'm running Server 2008 beta, you could be forgiven for
> thinking I'm running one! Well, i suppose I am, only its serving sod all,
> not even a round of cheese and pickle sandwiches!
>
>
> Heather wrote:
>> Oops.....misread that one. Oh well, whatever. (G)
>>
>> "Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:OS$5jkIyHHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Yes, well, *their* server.
>>>
>>>
>>> Heather wrote:
>>>> I still update thru the old program. Must be your server.
>>>>
>>>> Figgs
>>>>
>>>> "Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23R$gwDIyHHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> It isn't really hard to find the defs at Lavasoft, much as I hate
>>>>> *not* to rubbish them. Anyhow, if you're talking about the old
>>>>> Ad-aware, they seem to have stopped providing definitions for it.
>>>>> At least for some time my copy has quit downloading at 5% with an
>>>>> error.
>>>>> I've tried this in numerous different systems and it fails at 5% on
>>>>> all of them. Of course that may be they're all set to the same and
>>>>> only one server - but still...
>>>>>
>>>>> At the home page, hover over 'Download and buy' and in the drop
>>>>> down list is 'Definition file updates'. I just updated that way
>>>>> and it is for the old one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Shane
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> jeanette wrote:
>>>>>> could someone plz post the link to the latest defs?
>>>>>> i have been around and around and around adawares site, but do you
>>>>>> think i could find a link to the defs page....... ? NO.
>>>>>> i even googled.
>>>>>> why the heck do companies always make it hard to find what people
>>>>>> really want at their sites?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> J
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:u4R2aE6xHHA.5964@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Alias
>
>

 

[jeanette]

Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07


> It isn't really hard to find the defs at Lavasoft, much as I hate *not* to
> rubbish them. Anyhow, if you're talking about the old Ad-aware, they seem
to
> have stopped providing definitions for it. At least for some time my copy
> has quit downloading at 5% with an error. I've tried this in numerous
> different systems and it fails at 5% on all of them. Of course that may be
> they're all set to the same and only one server - but still...

Yes Yes Yes Shane,,,, that is Exactly what is happening to mine.


>
> At the home page, hover over 'Download and buy' and in the drop down list
is
> 'Definition file updates'. I just updated that way and it is for the old
> one.
>
> Shane


Thanks, I'll shuffle on over and try it again. (although, I did prefer just
tossing a boomerang and grabbing them that way.)

J

 

[Mike M]

Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07

I'm one of those who doesn't really bother with AdAware but having it
installed on this box thought I'd see what happens. I launched AdAware to
be told my definition were just 255 days old (I did say I didn't use it
<G>) and was offered new definitions SE1R181 dated 16 July 2007 which came
straight down and installed without problem. It looks as if the problem
you were seeing has been fixed or alternatively is maybe an ISP "thing".
--
Mike


Shane <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote:

> It isn't really hard to find the defs at Lavasoft, much as I hate
> *not* to rubbish them. Anyhow, if you're talking about the old
> Ad-aware, they seem to have stopped providing definitions for it. At
> least for some time my copy has quit downloading at 5% with an error.
> I've tried this in numerous different systems and it fails at 5% on
> all of them. Of course that may be they're all set to the same and
> only one server - but still...
> At the home page, hover over 'Download and buy' and in the drop down
> list is 'Definition file updates'. I just updated that way and it is
> for the old one.

 

[jeanette]

Shane

Shane

Hello Shane,,

I went and grabbed the new def file, and noted that it was 1.2meg zipped.
When going into my adaware folder, I checked the size of the file
currently being used (1.24meg) and the one that I must have done
manually and renamed to def.old(1.22meg).
This seems to say to me that all I really have working for me at the
moment is a mere few defs of which I manually loaded about 2 months
ago.... (via a Link I found somewhere to the def files)
Surely the def file should be much much larger than that? I have been
using adaware for 3 years and always update/check on a weekly basis, so
afaic it should have swelled dramatically over the years.
If my suspicions are correct, is there somewhere that I can download 3yrs
worth of defs?
If this is viable, exactly what should I do each time I get new update defs?
I know I must put them in adawares folder, and that I must re-name the
'other one' to defs.old or similar;; what else needs to be done, or do I
have
this all skew-whiff.?

J

 

[Mike M]

Re: Shane

Re: Shane

AdAware SE tells you which version of its definition file it is using on
its Status tab. The most recent being SE1R181 dated 16 July 2007 which is
1,339,941 bytes (1.27MB).

Reference Number : SE1R181 16.07.2007
Internal build : 222
File location : C:\Program Files\Malware Tools\Ad-Aware SE
Personal\defs.ref
File size : 1339941 Bytes
Total size : 4513348 Bytes
Signature data size : 4470899 Bytes
Reference data size : 41937 Bytes
Signatures total : 114778
CSI Fingerprints total : 8470
CSI data size : 533436 Bytes
Target categories : 15
Target families : 1151
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


jeanette <jeany@lostincyber.com> wrote:

> Hello Shane,,
>
> I went and grabbed the new def file, and noted that it was 1.2meg
> zipped. When going into my adaware folder, I checked the size of the
> file
> currently being used (1.24meg) and the one that I must have done
> manually and renamed to def.old(1.22meg).
> This seems to say to me that all I really have working for me at the
> moment is a mere few defs of which I manually loaded about 2 months
> ago.... (via a Link I found somewhere to the def files)
> Surely the def file should be much much larger than that? I have
> been using adaware for 3 years and always update/check on a weekly
> basis, so afaic it should have swelled dramatically over the years.
> If my suspicions are correct, is there somewhere that I can download
> 3yrs worth of defs?
> If this is viable, exactly what should I do each time I get new
> update defs? I know I must put them in adawares folder, and that I
> must re-name the 'other one' to defs.old or similar;; what else needs
> to be done, or do I have
> this all skew-whiff.?
>
> J

 

[Mart]

Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07

Funny you mention that you don't bother with AdAware very much Mike. I
switched to the 2007 version (on this XP box) jut after it first came out
and found it too messy to bother with so consequently haven't used it much
either.

Following your post, I've just 'uninstalled' it and installed an old copy of
SE (R106 dated 05/2006). It immediately offered to update and d/l'd R181.
Far faster and easier than the 2007 updates!

Lavasoft's 17MB 2007 bloatware verses their older 2.7MB SE doesn't equate.
So its back to the old familiar - and simpler - version but probably still
wont use it too often though <g>

Mart



"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:%237xa5aRyHHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> I'm one of those who doesn't really bother with AdAware but having it
> installed on this box thought I'd see what happens. I launched AdAware to
> be told my definition were just 255 days old (I did say I didn't use it
> <G>) and was offered new definitions SE1R181 dated 16 July 2007 which came
> straight down and installed without problem. It looks as if the problem
> you were seeing has been fixed or alternatively is maybe an ISP "thing".
> --
> Mike
>
>
> Shane <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It isn't really hard to find the defs at Lavasoft, much as I hate
>> *not* to rubbish them. Anyhow, if you're talking about the old
>> Ad-aware, they seem to have stopped providing definitions for it. At
>> least for some time my copy has quit downloading at 5% with an error.
>> I've tried this in numerous different systems and it fails at 5% on
>> all of them. Of course that may be they're all set to the same and
>> only one server - but still...
>> At the home page, hover over 'Download and buy' and in the drop down
>> list is 'Definition file updates'. I just updated that way and it is
>> for the old one.
>