Is batmeter.dll needed for a desktop system?

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I notice that batmeter.dll is a process module loaded by systray.

Does it perform any useful or needed function for a desktop system?

Tangent: Is there a list of processes that systray is configured to
load? Batmeter.dll is not mentioned anywhere in the registry.
 
Re: Is batmeter.dll needed for a desktop system?

On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:25:20 -0500, 98 Guy <98@Guy.com> wrote:

>I notice that batmeter.dll is a process module loaded by systray.
>
>Does it perform any useful or needed function for a desktop system?
>
>Tangent: Is there a list of processes that systray is configured to
>load? Batmeter.dll is not mentioned anywhere in the registry.


I think that IPMI- SMB-ACPI was heavily packaged to serve all
flavours, while actually managing to bury battery management beyond
user access.

It could have been something that UPS users could fiddle with in a
desk-top or allow battery simulators to function. There would always
have to be something operating in the hardware background just to say
battery; Y or N.

I don't think there are functional freeware tools remaining, since the
formation of 'interest groups' and 'alliances' before Y2K. The legacy
tools from Intel's IAL initiative are barely functional in the
original W98 system they targeted.

RL
 
Re: Is batmeter.dll needed for a desktop system?

Windows 95/98/Me System Tray Icons
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=128129

Systray doesn't explicitly need to be loaded separately for the icons mentioned to
be displayed in the tray. AFAIR systray is loaded anyway when one of those icons is
loaded....it's been years since I played with systray and I no longer have any notes
on it.

Windows seems to think batmeter.dll (Battery Meter) is needed, as it is a loaded
32-bit module (according to msinfo32) on every Win98 desktop I have looked at. I
can't delete it from Windows (obviously) because it is loaded, in use.

Whether it is actually required for other functions to work....I don't know. Rename
it from a DOS boot and see what if anything happens. I'm guessing Windows might
complain about something at boot if it is looking to load it automatically. Let us
know.....
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Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+


"98 Guy" <98@Guy.com> wrote in message news:4744E890.B4CB6770@Guy.com...
>I notice that batmeter.dll is a process module loaded by systray.
>
> Does it perform any useful or needed function for a desktop system?
>
> Tangent: Is there a list of processes that systray is configured to
> load? Batmeter.dll is not mentioned anywhere in the registry.
 
Re: Is batmeter.dll needed for a desktop system?

On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:25:20 -0500, 98 Guy <98@Guy.com> put finger to
keyboard and composed:

>I notice that batmeter.dll is a process module loaded by systray.
>
>Does it perform any useful or needed function for a desktop system?
>
>Tangent: Is there a list of processes that systray is configured to
>load? Batmeter.dll is not mentioned anywhere in the registry.


Dependency Walker and Msinfo32 suggest that Systray is configured to
load ...

batmeter.dll
powrprof.dll
setupapi.dll
winspool.drv
lz32.dll
winmm.dll

- Franc Zabkar
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Re: Is batmeter.dll needed for a desktop system?

On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:53:49 -0500, "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com>
put finger to keyboard and composed:

>Windows 95/98/Me System Tray Icons
>http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=128129


According to the above article:

====================================================================
The following icons provided by Systray.exe may appear on the taskbar:

Battery Meter
PC Card Status
Volume Control
Quickres
Task Scheduler
====================================================================

If I r-click any desktop shortcut, select Properties -> Shortcut ->
Change Icon, and then browse to windows\system\systray.exe, I see a
list of icons including battery, PC card, volume, muted volume, and
USB symbol. There are no Quickres or Task Scheduler icons. Instead the
Quickres icon appears to be associated with the desk.cpl Control Panel
applet. I suspect that the Task Scheduler icon is associated with
mstask.dll, but I haven't tried this.

- Franc Zabkar
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Re: Is batmeter.dll needed for a desktop system?

Franc Zabkar wrote:

> Dependency Walker and Msinfo32 suggest that Systray is configured
> to load ...
>
> batmeter.dll
> powrprof.dll
> setupapi.dll
> winspool.drv
> lz32.dll
> winmm.dll


Based on what CCtask is telling me, I would venture to guess that
Systray (on my system) is also soley responsible for loading (and/or
using):

WMI.DLL
USBUI.DLL

Also according to cctask, powrprof.dll is showing a process count of 2
and setupapi.dll is showing 3 (which, if I'm correct, means either
that systray is running 2 or 3 instances of them, or something else
other than systray is also using them).

winmm.dll is showing a global count of 2 and process count of 3. I
see that "TC-Active" and "TC-Monitor" is also using winmm.dll on my
system.
 
Re: Is batmeter.dll needed for a desktop system?

glee wrote:

> Windows 95/98/Me System Tray Icons
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=128129
>
> Systray doesn't explicitly need to be loaded separately for
> the icons mentioned to be displayed in the tray.


How would one make icons appear in the tray for the following:

batmeter.dll
powrprof.dll
setupapi.dll
winspool.drv
lz32.dll
winmm.dll
usbui.dll
wmi.dll

?

I "see" no tray icons for any of those (unless one of them is
responsible for the volume control icon).

> Whether (batmeter.dll) it is actually required for other functions
> to work....I don't know. Rename it from a DOS boot and see what
> if anything happens. I'm guessing Windows might complain about
> something at boot if it is looking to load it automatically.
> Let us know.....


Windows seems to start fine, but a window does pop up saying that a
program is missing (batmeter.dll) and systray.exe is not running by
the time the desktop is ready for use (and the volume-control icon is
missing from the tray, and possibly the clock to - I might be wrong
about that).

Other than that, the system seemed usable.

I guess there is no configuration file for systray.exe, like maybe a
systray.ini file?
 
Re: Is batmeter.dll needed for a desktop system?

Franc Zabkar wrote:

> =================================================================
> The following icons provided by Systray.exe may appear on the
> taskbar:
>
> Battery Meter
> PC Card Status
> Volume Control
> Quickres
> Task Scheduler
> ==================================================================


> I suspect that the Task Scheduler icon is associated with
> mstask.dll, but I haven't tried this.


I think that Task Scheduler is mstask.exe, which is a completely
separate, stand-alone process that is not part of (or called from)
systray.exe the way that the other items are.

> ... then browse to windows\system\systray.exe, I see a list of
> icons including battery, PC card, volume, muted volume, and
> USB symbol.


Maybe the usb symbol is associated with usbui.dll.
 
Re: Is batmeter.dll needed for a desktop system?

On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 20:36:58 -0500, 98 Guy <98@Guy.com> put finger to
keyboard and composed:

>Franc Zabkar wrote:
>
>> Dependency Walker and Msinfo32 suggest that Systray is configured
>> to load ...
>>
>> batmeter.dll
>> powrprof.dll
>> setupapi.dll
>> winspool.drv
>> lz32.dll
>> winmm.dll

>
>Based on what CCtask is telling me, I would venture to guess that
>Systray (on my system) is also soley responsible for loading (and/or
>using):
>
>WMI.DLL
>USBUI.DLL


Dependency Walker shows no reference to usbui.dll or wmi.dll within
systray.exe. However, I *can* see a "usbui.dll" text string in the
body of systray.exe.

FWIW, wmi.dll and usbui.dll appear just prior to systray.exe in
msinfo32's list of 32-bit processes.

>Also according to cctask, powrprof.dll is showing a process count of 2
>and setupapi.dll is showing 3 (which, if I'm correct, means either
>that systray is running 2 or 3 instances of them, or something else
>other than systray is also using them).
>
>winmm.dll is showing a global count of 2 and process count of 3. I
>see that "TC-Active" and "TC-Monitor" is also using winmm.dll on my
>system.


- Franc Zabkar
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Re: Is batmeter.dll needed for a desktop system?

On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 21:00:42 -0500, 98 Guy <98@Guy.com> put finger to
keyboard and composed:

>Franc Zabkar wrote:
>
>> =================================================================
>> The following icons provided by Systray.exe may appear on the
>> taskbar:
>>
>> Battery Meter
>> PC Card Status
>> Volume Control
>> Quickres
>> Task Scheduler
>> ==================================================================

>
>> I suspect that the Task Scheduler icon is associated with
>> mstask.dll, but I haven't tried this.

>
>I think that Task Scheduler is mstask.exe, which is a completely
>separate, stand-alone process that is not part of (or called from)
>systray.exe the way that the other items are.
>
>> ... then browse to windows\system\systray.exe, I see a list of
>> icons including battery, PC card, volume, muted volume, and
>> USB symbol.

>
>Maybe the usb symbol is associated with usbui.dll.


It seems to me that the same USB symbol (hotplug icon) is embedded
within the code of systray.exe. Hence Microsoft's statement that the
above icons are "provided" by systray.exe.

In fact you can confirm this by using an icon extraction utility such
as IconsExtract (freeware):
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/iconsext.html

- Franc Zabkar
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