Re: VISTA X64 WORKS FINE!
I'm with you on that!, here in Italy Pc's have always been seen as game
instruments and only in the last 5-7 years have things changed a little. In
Milan we have 4/5 decent computer stores and what you find on the shelf is
still entirely focused on this segment of clientele. As soon as you want
something decent you either assemble it yourself, as I have been doing for
the past 10 years, or order it online from specialized stores.
With this kind of market the consequences are that people have trouble
seeing the positive and productive part of a pc and with the operating
system/software that come with them.
A couple of evenings a week I teach youngsters to use Pc's and I avoid
teaching how to play games with them. They are "productive" tools and it
takes time to get them to understand that games are not all there is to it.
As I do it through the local council the main aim is to make people
understand that it's possible to increase your production simply by using
the machine as a very powerful working tool. I have a couple of boys
initially totally concentrated on games and have now become experts and have
become part of the councils network management team. They simply saw the
productive part of machine+operating system+software and games have now
become the past.
People find it hard to understand the potential of Vista and other software
and this leads to what we are all going through with Vista non being fully
accepted.
Than you all for you comments.
AndyB
"KevinD" <kjdinoc@msn.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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>I work with Software and all I can say is "I HATE THAT MENTALITY"! It is
>so frustrating to be able to offer something that could really make peoples
>lives much easier and they just don't see it, or get it.
>
> "BENAGLIA" <benaglia.andrea@tiscali.it> wrote in message
> news:F07B3BFA-C3D6-4F42-AAFE-AA3A7DFF7B83@microsoft.com...
>> I have the impression people are just expecting have to have an operating
>> system
>> that works without "understanding" how it works. It just has to work and
>> that's it!
>> Xp was a great system and lived it's life but Vista is way superior and
>> it will
>> take people a long time to understand exactly what the difference is
>> between
>> the two systems.
>> Just today I had a client ask me to load Xp on her laptop as it wasn't
>> working,
>> I switched the laptop on and everything was just fine. The truth is that
>> on seeing things
>> different to what she had been used to made her draw back and reject
>> Vista.
>> This is very common and it will take time to get people over
>> pre-conceptions and so on.
>> I'm working on having all my 8 business Pc's converted to Vista and
>> already know I'll
>> have to problems with any of the peripherals (printers, scanners and
>> plotters).
>> AndyB
>>
>>
>>
>> "KevinD" <kjdinoc@msn.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
>> news:BCD6DA40-1722-4470-8A12-FC8A5E9533FC@microsoft.com...
>>>I have Vista Ultimate 64 Bit on my HP Notebook. Surprisingly it came
>>>preinstalled with this O/S and I couldn't be happier with it. I had very
>>>few problems from the get go, specifically one driver that did not come
>>>in a 64 Bit flavor, but the Company already had it in Beta and it was out
>>>about a month after I got my Notebook. I've now had it for 8 months and
>>>it runs beautifully - trouble free. All of my software and peripherals
>>>run perfectly.
>>>
>>> I have read so many complaints about Vista it drives me crazy. Drawing
>>> on my experience with two PC's now running it I just don't know how
>>> people can be having so much trouble with it.
>>>
>>>
>>> "BENAGLIA" <benaglia.andrea@tiscali.it> wrote in message
>>> news:#k2637zLIHA.3852@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> As John says one of the problems with x64 Vista is people trying to
>>>> convert to it from a 32-bit system. I've given up on quite a few Pc's
>>>> and laptops as it was to much of a hassle to convert with would be
>>>> cheaper to start over from scratch.
>>>> I believe X64 is the future and hope Microsoft concentrates more on the
>>>> system. Works as it is but can become tomorrows standard. Software is
>>>> slowly going that way and hardware manufacturers too so x64 is here to
>>>> stay and get better.
>>>>
>>>> Greetings from Milan Italy, it's getting COLD!
>>>>
>>>> ANDYB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Techy" <Techy@discussions.microsoft.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
>>>> news:8347301C-A2E0-4924-8FF5-72C3FD806DCF@microsoft.com...
>>>>>I also run 64 bit Vista and it works perfectly. Absolutely no problems
>>>>>here.
>>>>> Blazing fast, etc. I only wish I could set the 64 bit IE and WMP11 as
>>>>> default, but aside from that no complaints!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope Microsoft pushes hard for 64 bit to come alive!
>>>>>
>>>>> "John Barnes" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nice to see a success story. It is a good system and keeps getting
>>>>>> better.
>>>>>> It always helps if those going 64-bit start with the idea that they
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> starting over, and not to try to convert a 32-bit system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "BENAGLIA" <benaglia.andrea@tiscali.it> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:6C08C440-C8C8-4F77-81F0-C3FDE652C097@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> > Thought it would be a good idea to post my experience with my Vista
>>>>>> > X64
>>>>>> > system and working experience with it.
>>>>>> > Set the system up myself and after some good home work opted for
>>>>>> > the
>>>>>> > following components:
>>>>>> > M/Board: Asus P5W DH Deluxe
>>>>>> > CPU: Intel Dual Core 6600 @ 2.40HGz
>>>>>> > RAM: 4 Gb
>>>>>> > Vista: Business X64
>>>>>> > HD: Raid 0
>>>>>> > Most of my work is graphics and so I needed something stable and at
>>>>>> > the
>>>>>> > same time reliable/stable when handling heavy files with quite a
>>>>>> > range of
>>>>>> > software and so on. My initial problems were what I call "normal
>>>>>> > administration", new drivers, new software but managed to sort it
>>>>>> > all out
>>>>>> > without big problems, most of the time with the the help of this
>>>>>> > forum!,
>>>>>> > and now have the system I wanted working way beyond my initial
>>>>>> > expectations.
>>>>>> > X64 has proved to be stable and works just fine. No great hassle
>>>>>> > and
>>>>>> > whatever comes up doesn't worry me at all, went through the same
>>>>>> > experience with Xp!, and with a little care the system runs
>>>>>> > smoothly.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On reading some of the posts I have the impression a lot of people
>>>>>> > still
>>>>>> > expect operating systems to function perfectly no matter what and a
>>>>>> > good
>>>>>> > percentage of Vista users find it difficult to move from Xp simply
>>>>>> > because
>>>>>> > they expect it to be the same. I have been submerged by people
>>>>>> > asking for
>>>>>> > help because their new Laptop isn't functioning and end results are
>>>>>> > 90%
>>>>>> > due to the users and most of the rest due to hardware, a very small
>>>>>> > percentage are due to Vista itself. It took Xp a few years, and a
>>>>>> > few
>>>>>> > Service Packs, to get through it's initial hitches and Vita will
>>>>>> > probably
>>>>>> > be the same. I started working with Vista not expecting it to be Xp
>>>>>> > so
>>>>>> > handling it as a new operating system and found myself getting
>>>>>> > through all
>>>>>> > the hitches easily and got to understand how it all works a lot
>>>>>> > better.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I also work with a Power Mac G5 Quad - 8 Gb ram and the two systems
>>>>>> > function with the same results, which is what I wanted from the
>>>>>> > beginning.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Thanks again for your advice.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > AndyB
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
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