Updates/upgrades

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Hey,

I just had to re-install W98SE (NL) because I had a
Diskpartitionproblem. Now I lost all my updates/upgrades from W98Se.
Can anybody help me to get them back??

tks//


Xotha
 
Re: Updates/upgrades

xotha wrote:
> Hey,
>
> I just had to re-install W98SE (NL) because I had a
> Diskpartitionproblem. Now I lost all my updates/upgrades from W98Se.
> Can anybody help me to get them back??
>
> tks//
>
>




http://exuberant.ms11.net/98sesp.html

all the updates in 1 "service pack"
 
Re: Updates/upgrades

xotha wrote:
| Hey,
|
| I just had to re-install W98SE (NL) because I had a
| Diskpartitionproblem. Now I lost all my updates/upgrades from W98Se.
| Can anybody help me to get them back??

As Bear said...
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
....still works, although, for me: "There are no critical updates
available at this time." I've got them all!

As Terhune discovered, you may need at least IE v.5.5, though, before it
will work...

.........Quote.............
After reinstalling Win98, you must upgrade to IE6 SP1 before you can use
Windows Update, yes; otherwise, you should be able to access any other
web-page, including Microsoft's.

Download IE6 SP1 (full; 9 KB - 77.5 MB)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1e1550cb-5e5d-48f5-b02b-20b602228de6
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Security, Shell/User)
........EOQ..............

| tks//
|
|
| Xotha

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
Re: Updates/upgrades

Does the (NL) stand for Netherlands? Does Windows Updates not work?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"xotha" <xotha-the-welsh@spaniel.dog> wrote in message
news:Ok%23O4maMIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hey,
>
> I just had to re-install W98SE (NL) because I had a Diskpartitionproblem.
> Now I lost all my updates/upgrades from W98Se.
> Can anybody help me to get them back??
>
> tks//
>
>
> Xotha
 
Re: Updates/upgrades

Download Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (IE6 SP1) setup:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CB-5E5D-48F5-B02B-20B602228DE6&displaylang=en

Disable your anti-virus, start the downloaded setup program, and install, then
reboot when prompted.

After that, go to Windows Update, scan your system and start installing the Critical
Updates. Don't try to take them all in one shot....spread them out.
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+


"xotha" <xotha-the-welsh@spaniel.dog> wrote in message
news:Ok%23O4maMIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hey,
>
> I just had to re-install W98SE (NL) because I had a Diskpartitionproblem. Now I
> lost all my updates/upgrades from W98Se.
> Can anybody help me to get them back??
>
> tks//
>
>
> Xotha
 
Re: Updates/upgrades

So, while I wasn't looking, they apparently deleted all 9x Updates from the
Windows Update Catalog (now renamed "Microsoft Update Catalog".)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
news:uigmsLkMIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Download Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (IE6 SP1) setup:
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CB-5E5D-48F5-B02B-20B602228DE6&displaylang=en
>
> Disable your anti-virus, start the downloaded setup program, and install,
> then reboot when prompted.
>
> After that, go to Windows Update, scan your system and start installing
> the Critical Updates. Don't try to take them all in one shot....spread
> them out.
> http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>
>
> "xotha" <xotha-the-welsh@spaniel.dog> wrote in message
> news:Ok%23O4maMIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Hey,
>>
>> I just had to re-install W98SE (NL) because I had a Diskpartitionproblem.
>> Now I lost all my updates/upgrades from W98Se.
>> Can anybody help me to get them back??
>>
>> tks//
>>
>>
>> Xotha

>
 
Re: Updates/upgrades

They did? I haven't looked in a while. Yoyos!
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+


"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:OmSFO3vMIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> So, while I wasn't looking, they apparently deleted all 9x Updates from the
> Windows Update Catalog (now renamed "Microsoft Update Catalog".)
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:uigmsLkMIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Download Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (IE6 SP1) setup:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CB-5E5D-48F5-B02B-20B602228DE6&displaylang=en
>>
>> Disable your anti-virus, start the downloaded setup program, and install,
>> then reboot when prompted.
>>
>> After that, go to Windows Update, scan your system and start installing
>> the Critical Updates. Don't try to take them all in one shot....spread
>> them out.
>> http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
>> --
>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>>
>>
>> "xotha" <xotha-the-welsh@spaniel.dog> wrote in message
>> news:Ok%23O4maMIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>> I just had to re-install W98SE (NL) because I had a Diskpartitionproblem.
>>> Now I lost all my updates/upgrades from W98Se.
>>> Can anybody help me to get them back??
>>>
>>> tks//
>>>
>>>
>>> Xotha

>>

>
>
>
 
Re: Updates/upgrades

Well, I have the whole set, but only in English. Might have some old TechNet
stuff that has Updates for other languages, but I think I only got TN
through early 2002.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
news:ukpfC3wMIHA.5244@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> They did? I haven't looked in a while. Yoyos!
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:OmSFO3vMIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> So, while I wasn't looking, they apparently deleted all 9x Updates from
>> the Windows Update Catalog (now renamed "Microsoft Update Catalog".)
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:uigmsLkMIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Download Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (IE6 SP1) setup:
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CB-5E5D-48F5-B02B-20B602228DE6&displaylang=en
>>>
>>> Disable your anti-virus, start the downloaded setup program, and
>>> install,
>>> then reboot when prompted.
>>>
>>> After that, go to Windows Update, scan your system and start installing
>>> the Critical Updates. Don't try to take them all in one shot....spread
>>> them out.
>>> http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
>>> --
>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>>>
>>>
>>> "xotha" <xotha-the-welsh@spaniel.dog> wrote in message
>>> news:Ok%23O4maMIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hey,
>>>>
>>>> I just had to re-install W98SE (NL) because I had a
>>>> Diskpartitionproblem.
>>>> Now I lost all my updates/upgrades from W98Se.
>>>> Can anybody help me to get them back??
>>>>
>>>> tks//
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Xotha
>>>

>>
>>
>>

>
 
Re: Updates/upgrades



"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:u5r5CVxMIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| Well, I have the whole set, but only in English. Might have some old
TechNet
| stuff that has Updates for other languages, but I think I only got TN
| through early 2002.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|

Hey, Gary;; I'm still directing people that you have CDROMs available for a
minimal cost containing 9X [and other] updates , is this still true?

One of those CDs was the SecCD 2004, and another was likely the previously
offered updates, is this correct?

So what was the other CD [you mentioned three before didn't you]?

Did you create some form of autoupdate installer for those updates,
included on the updates CD?

Would you be willing to offer your site as a repository for other
languages/updates or are you [or others] aware of sites which already offer
those non-English versions?

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
________



| "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
| news:ukpfC3wMIHA.5244@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > They did? I haven't looked in a while. Yoyos!
| > --
| > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
| >
| >
| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > news:OmSFO3vMIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| >> So, while I wasn't looking, they apparently deleted all 9x Updates from
| >> the Windows Update Catalog (now renamed "Microsoft Update Catalog".)
| >>
| >> --
| >> Gary S. Terhune
| >> MS-MVP Shell/User
| >> www.grystmill.com
| >>
| >> "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
| >> news:uigmsLkMIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| >>> Download Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (IE6 SP1) setup:
| >>>
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CB-5E5D-48F5-B02B-20B602228DE6&displaylang=en
| >>>
| >>> Disable your anti-virus, start the downloaded setup program, and
| >>> install,
| >>> then reboot when prompted.
| >>>
| >>> After that, go to Windows Update, scan your system and start
installing
| >>> the Critical Updates. Don't try to take them all in one
shot....spread
| >>> them out.
| >>> http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
| >>> --
| >>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
| >>>
| >>>
| >>> "xotha" <xotha-the-welsh@spaniel.dog> wrote in message
| >>> news:Ok%23O4maMIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| >>>> Hey,
| >>>>
| >>>> I just had to re-install W98SE (NL) because I had a
| >>>> Diskpartitionproblem.
| >>>> Now I lost all my updates/upgrades from W98Se.
| >>>> Can anybody help me to get them back??
| >>>>
| >>>> tks//
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>> Xotha
| >>>
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >
|
|
 
Re: Updates/upgrades

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:u761$e3MIHA.5720@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hey, Gary;; I'm still directing people that you have CDROMs available for
> a
> minimal cost containing 9X [and other] updates , is this still true?


Yes. I ask $3, cash or check. When I get the money, I send the CDs. I don't
want to put my mailing address here, so I ask people to email
"updates_at_grystmill.com".

> One of those CDs was the SecCD 2004, and another was likely the previously
> offered updates, is this correct?


The one is a copy of the SecUp CD 2004, the other contains all updates
subsequent to that CD's release. IOW, it covers everything you'd do to a
fresh install to bring it up to date.

> So what was the other CD [you mentioned three before didn't you]?


None other. 2 CDs only. I *did* produce a Time Zones updater that I host on
my website. I don't distribute that via CD.

> Did you create some form of autoupdate installer for those updates,
> included on the updates CD?


No. The SecUp 2004 CD is self-contained and auto-installed, but the
subsequent Updates are simply organized by OS (98, 98SE or ME), type of
Update, and order of installation, with detailed Readmes included to suggest
procedures.

> Would you be willing to offer your site as a repository for other
> languages/updates or are you [or others] aware of sites which already
> offer
> those non-English versions?


No, I will not host any stored Updates. I distribute them via CD now so that
the costs are covered. I don't feel like paying for online storage and
potentially high transfer costs. I think that in the case of Updates for
other languages, it's a task for each of the communities that serve
non-English users. I hope they prepared like I did. I'm sure they're out
there somewhere, but it was a lot easier to get them via WU. By using WU to
figure out which Updates to install and in what order, I avoided
redundancies and needless installations of subsequently superceded patches.
Of course, it also excludes patches, etc., that weren't included at WU a
year ago. Most of those were either superceded or they pertain to specific
cases or scenarios and should only be installed if conditions demand (e.g.,
HotFixes.)

If someone were to express a desire to host the Updates on a website, I'd be
willing to talk. Best method would be a pair of ISOs, but if someone were to
have unlimited space, it could get a lot more customizable according to
users' needs, with copies of various Updates organized in various manners,
the SecUp CD torn apart, etc. But providing the stuff I have is about as far
as I want to go on any such project. Don't feel like yanking the MS chain
*that* hard.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


>
> --
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> ________
>
>
>
> | "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
> | news:ukpfC3wMIHA.5244@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | > They did? I haven't looked in a while. Yoyos!
> | > --
> | > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> | >
> | >
> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | > news:OmSFO3vMIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | >> So, while I wasn't looking, they apparently deleted all 9x Updates
> from
> | >> the Windows Update Catalog (now renamed "Microsoft Update Catalog".)
> | >>
> | >> --
> | >> Gary S. Terhune
> | >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> | >> www.grystmill.com
> | >>
> | >> "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
> | >> news:uigmsLkMIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | >>> Download Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (IE6 SP1) setup:
> | >>>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CB-5E5D-48F5-B02B-20B602228DE6&displaylang=en
> | >>>
> | >>> Disable your anti-virus, start the downloaded setup program, and
> | >>> install,
> | >>> then reboot when prompted.
> | >>>
> | >>> After that, go to Windows Update, scan your system and start
> installing
> | >>> the Critical Updates. Don't try to take them all in one
> shot....spread
> | >>> them out.
> | >>> http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
> | >>> --
> | >>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> | >>>
> | >>>
> | >>> "xotha" <xotha-the-welsh@spaniel.dog> wrote in message
> | >>> news:Ok%23O4maMIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | >>>> Hey,
> | >>>>
> | >>>> I just had to re-install W98SE (NL) because I had a
> | >>>> Diskpartitionproblem.
> | >>>> Now I lost all my updates/upgrades from W98Se.
> | >>>> Can anybody help me to get them back??
> | >>>>
> | >>>> tks//
> | >>>>
> | >>>>
> | >>>> Xotha
> | >>>
> | >>
> | >>
> | >>
> | >
> |
> |
>
>
 
Re: Updates/upgrades

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> So, while I wasn't looking, they apparently deleted all 9x Updates
> from the Windows Update Catalog (now renamed "Microsoft Update
> Catalog".)


You can only access the old Windows Update Catalog from Windows 98 or
ME.

2000, XP, and 2003 use the new Microsoft Update Catalog.

WindowsUpdate will still feed an unpatched win-98 system with updates.
 
Re: Updates/upgrades


"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:ej6us$5MIHA.3852@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:u761$e3MIHA.5720@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > Hey, Gary;; I'm still directing people that you have CDROMs available
for
| > a
| > minimal cost containing 9X [and other] updates , is this still true?
|
| Yes. I ask $3, cash or check. When I get the money, I send the CDs. I
don't
| want to put my mailing address here, so I ask people to email
| "updates_at_grystmill.com".

Right, I was sending them to the site,,, is it mentioned there?

|
| > One of those CDs was the SecCD 2004, and another was likely the
previously
| > offered updates, is this correct?
|
| The one is a copy of the SecUp CD 2004, the other contains all updates
| subsequent to that CD's release. IOW, it covers everything you'd do to a
| fresh install to bring it up to date.
|
| > So what was the other CD [you mentioned three before didn't you]?
|
| None other. 2 CDs only. I *did* produce a Time Zones updater that I host
on
| my website. I don't distribute that via CD.

Okay, chalk that to numerous other issues in mind, and ,, well you know ...

|
| > Did you create some form of autoupdate installer for those updates,
| > included on the updates CD?
|
| No. The SecUp 2004 CD is self-contained and auto-installed, but the
| subsequent Updates are simply organized by OS (98, 98SE or ME), type of
| Update, and order of installation, with detailed Readmes included to
suggest
| procedures.

So it would still be useful for parties presently running 9X to save their
windows Update.log and iuhist.xml so they could potentially determine the
order and what they might need, by comparing what was installed by the SecCD
{or perhaps after mid 2004}.. most of those will be for IE 6 and OE anyway
....

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/windows/manual_update_98.htm -
Manually updating a new installation of Windows 98SE
though now, apparently, they will be searching Microsoft (or the Internet)
for any files they don't have saved locally or which aren't on the second
subsequent updates CD.


|
| > Would you be willing to offer your site as a repository for other
| > languages/updates or are you [or others] aware of sites which already
| > offer
| > those non-English versions?
|
| No, I will not host any stored Updates. I distribute them via CD now so
that
| the costs are covered. I don't feel like paying for online storage and
| potentially high transfer costs. I think that in the case of Updates for
| other languages, it's a task for each of the communities that serve
| non-English users. I hope they prepared like I did. I'm sure they're out
| there somewhere, but it was a lot easier to get them via WU. By using WU
to
| figure out which Updates to install and in what order, I avoided
| redundancies and needless installations of subsequently superceded
patches.
| Of course, it also excludes patches, etc., that weren't included at WU a
| year ago. Most of those were either superceded or they pertain to specific
| cases or scenarios and should only be installed if conditions demand
(e.g.,
| HotFixes.)
|
| If someone were to express a desire to host the Updates on a website, I'd
be
| willing to talk. Best method would be a pair of ISOs, but if someone were
to
| have unlimited space, it could get a lot more customizable according to
| users' needs, with copies of various Updates organized in various manners,
| the SecUp CD torn apart, etc. But providing the stuff I have is about as
far
| as I want to go on any such project. Don't feel like yanking the MS chain
| *that* hard.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
|

Okay, thanks Gary, I certainly understand. Perhaps there will be other
postings which can direct to *official patch* collections [unmodified] for
other languages. And MAYBE, someone will be sparked to offer some space
somewhere.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
________

| >
| > | "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
| > | news:ukpfC3wMIHA.5244@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | > They did? I haven't looked in a while. Yoyos!
| > | > --
| > | > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > | > news:OmSFO3vMIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | >> So, while I wasn't looking, they apparently deleted all 9x Updates
| > from
| > | >> the Windows Update Catalog (now renamed "Microsoft Update
Catalog".)
| > | >>
| > | >> --
| > | >> Gary S. Terhune
| > | >> MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | >> www.grystmill.com
| > | >>
| > | >> "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
| > | >> news:uigmsLkMIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > | >>> Download Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (IE6 SP1) setup:
| > | >>>
| >
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CB-5E5D-48F5-B02B-20B602228DE6&displaylang=en
| > | >>>
| > | >>> Disable your anti-virus, start the downloaded setup program, and
| > | >>> install,
| > | >>> then reboot when prompted.
| > | >>>
| > | >>> After that, go to Windows Update, scan your system and start
| > installing
| > | >>> the Critical Updates. Don't try to take them all in one
| > shot....spread
| > | >>> them out.
| > | >>> http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
| > | >>> --
| > | >>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
| > | >>>
| > | >>>
| > | >>> "xotha" <xotha-the-welsh@spaniel.dog> wrote in message
| > | >>> news:Ok%23O4maMIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | >>>> Hey,
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>> I just had to re-install W98SE (NL) because I had a
| > | >>>> Diskpartitionproblem.
| > | >>>> Now I lost all my updates/upgrades from W98Se.
| > | >>>> Can anybody help me to get them back??
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>> tks//
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>> Xotha
| > | >>>
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
Re: Updates/upgrades

Huh... I thought I'd mentioned it on my site, but I guess I forgot that
detail. I'll fix that. But it's best to send folks to updates@grystmill.com.
I can remind them of the cost and tell them where to send the cash. As for
the rest... I'm retired, I guess. With regard to Updates, anyway, I've
pretty much done all I'm going to do. (So long as I can remember who I am,
I'll try to keep the Time Zones Updater up to date -- except for Israel.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e3rlKH9MIHA.4740@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:ej6us$5MIHA.3852@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | news:u761$e3MIHA.5720@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | > Hey, Gary;; I'm still directing people that you have CDROMs available
> for
> | > a
> | > minimal cost containing 9X [and other] updates , is this still true?
> |
> | Yes. I ask $3, cash or check. When I get the money, I send the CDs. I
> don't
> | want to put my mailing address here, so I ask people to email
> | "updates_at_grystmill.com".
>
> Right, I was sending them to the site,,, is it mentioned there?
>
> |
> | > One of those CDs was the SecCD 2004, and another was likely the
> previously
> | > offered updates, is this correct?
> |
> | The one is a copy of the SecUp CD 2004, the other contains all updates
> | subsequent to that CD's release. IOW, it covers everything you'd do to a
> | fresh install to bring it up to date.
> |
> | > So what was the other CD [you mentioned three before didn't you]?
> |
> | None other. 2 CDs only. I *did* produce a Time Zones updater that I host
> on
> | my website. I don't distribute that via CD.
>
> Okay, chalk that to numerous other issues in mind, and ,, well you know
> ...
>
> |
> | > Did you create some form of autoupdate installer for those updates,
> | > included on the updates CD?
> |
> | No. The SecUp 2004 CD is self-contained and auto-installed, but the
> | subsequent Updates are simply organized by OS (98, 98SE or ME), type of
> | Update, and order of installation, with detailed Readmes included to
> suggest
> | procedures.
>
> So it would still be useful for parties presently running 9X to save their
> windows Update.log and iuhist.xml so they could potentially determine the
> order and what they might need, by comparing what was installed by the
> SecCD
> {or perhaps after mid 2004}.. most of those will be for IE 6 and OE anyway
> ...
>
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/windows/manual_update_98.htm -
> Manually updating a new installation of Windows 98SE
> though now, apparently, they will be searching Microsoft (or the Internet)
> for any files they don't have saved locally or which aren't on the second
> subsequent updates CD.
>
>
> |
> | > Would you be willing to offer your site as a repository for other
> | > languages/updates or are you [or others] aware of sites which already
> | > offer
> | > those non-English versions?
> |
> | No, I will not host any stored Updates. I distribute them via CD now so
> that
> | the costs are covered. I don't feel like paying for online storage and
> | potentially high transfer costs. I think that in the case of Updates for
> | other languages, it's a task for each of the communities that serve
> | non-English users. I hope they prepared like I did. I'm sure they're out
> | there somewhere, but it was a lot easier to get them via WU. By using WU
> to
> | figure out which Updates to install and in what order, I avoided
> | redundancies and needless installations of subsequently superceded
> patches.
> | Of course, it also excludes patches, etc., that weren't included at WU a
> | year ago. Most of those were either superceded or they pertain to
> specific
> | cases or scenarios and should only be installed if conditions demand
> (e.g.,
> | HotFixes.)
> |
> | If someone were to express a desire to host the Updates on a website,
> I'd
> be
> | willing to talk. Best method would be a pair of ISOs, but if someone
> were
> to
> | have unlimited space, it could get a lot more customizable according to
> | users' needs, with copies of various Updates organized in various
> manners,
> | the SecUp CD torn apart, etc. But providing the stuff I have is about as
> far
> | as I want to go on any such project. Don't feel like yanking the MS
> chain
> | *that* hard.
> |
> | --
> | Gary S. Terhune
> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | www.grystmill.com
> |
> |
>
> Okay, thanks Gary, I certainly understand. Perhaps there will be other
> postings which can direct to *official patch* collections [unmodified] for
> other languages. And MAYBE, someone will be sparked to offer some space
> somewhere.
>
> --
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> ________
>
> | >
> | > | "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
> | > | news:ukpfC3wMIHA.5244@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | > | > They did? I haven't looked in a while. Yoyos!
> | > | > --
> | > | > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | > | > news:OmSFO3vMIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | > | >> So, while I wasn't looking, they apparently deleted all 9x
> Updates
> | > from
> | > | >> the Windows Update Catalog (now renamed "Microsoft Update
> Catalog".)
> | > | >>
> | > | >> --
> | > | >> Gary S. Terhune
> | > | >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > | >> www.grystmill.com
> | > | >>
> | > | >> "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
> | > | >> news:uigmsLkMIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | > | >>> Download Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (IE6 SP1) setup:
> | > | >>>
> | >
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CB-5E5D-48F5-B02B-20B602228DE6&displaylang=en
> | > | >>>
> | > | >>> Disable your anti-virus, start the downloaded setup program, and
> | > | >>> install,
> | > | >>> then reboot when prompted.
> | > | >>>
> | > | >>> After that, go to Windows Update, scan your system and start
> | > installing
> | > | >>> the Critical Updates. Don't try to take them all in one
> | > shot....spread
> | > | >>> them out.
> | > | >>> http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
> | > | >>> --
> | > | >>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> | > | >>>
> | > | >>>
> | > | >>> "xotha" <xotha-the-welsh@spaniel.dog> wrote in message
> | > | >>> news:Ok%23O4maMIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | > | >>>> Hey,
> | > | >>>>
> | > | >>>> I just had to re-install W98SE (NL) because I had a
> | > | >>>> Diskpartitionproblem.
> | > | >>>> Now I lost all my updates/upgrades from W98Se.
> | > | >>>> Can anybody help me to get them back??
> | > | >>>>
> | > | >>>> tks//
> | > | >>>>
> | > | >>>>
> | > | >>>> Xotha
> | > | >>>
> | > | >>
> | > | >>
> | > | >>
> | > | >
> | > |
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>
 
Re: Updates/upgrades

98 Guy wrote:
| "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
|
|> So, while I wasn't looking, they apparently deleted all 9x Updates
|> from the Windows Update Catalog (now renamed "Microsoft Update
|> Catalog".)
|
| You can only access the old Windows Update Catalog from Windows 98 or
| ME.

I confirm that on this Win98SE the Catalog...
http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp

....STILL offers...!...

78 Critical Updates & Service Packs
1 Additional Windows Downloads
1 Internet & Multimedia Updates
75 Multi-language Features
15 Recommended Updates
1 Windows Tools
0 Advanced Security Updates

| 2000, XP, and 2003 use the new Microsoft Update Catalog.
|
| WindowsUpdate will still feed an unpatched win-98 system with updates.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
Re: Updates/upgrades

Well that's good news. I still wonder what the case is with other languages,
but I'm just not bored enough, yet, to install foreign-language versions to
see what's available. Would be kinda fun, though, and I've got them all from
MSDN.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:%2391EGCHNIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> 98 Guy wrote:
> | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
> |
> |> So, while I wasn't looking, they apparently deleted all 9x Updates
> |> from the Windows Update Catalog (now renamed "Microsoft Update
> |> Catalog".)
> |
> | You can only access the old Windows Update Catalog from Windows 98 or
> | ME.
>
> I confirm that on this Win98SE the Catalog...
> http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp
>
> ...STILL offers...!...
>
> 78 Critical Updates & Service Packs
> 1 Additional Windows Downloads
> 1 Internet & Multimedia Updates
> 75 Multi-language Features
> 15 Recommended Updates
> 1 Windows Tools
> 0 Advanced Security Updates
>
> | 2000, XP, and 2003 use the new Microsoft Update Catalog.
> |
> | WindowsUpdate will still feed an unpatched win-98 system with updates.
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
>
 
Re: Updates/upgrades

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| Well that's good news. I still wonder what the case is with other
| languages, but I'm just not bored enough, yet, to install
| foreign-language versions to see what's available. Would be kinda
| fun, though, and I've got them all from MSDN.

Yep, good news. And I took at least all the criticals (I think/hope)
into...

E:\WU>dir /a /s
Directory of E:\WU
....snip
Total files listed:
209 file(s) 195,804,619 bytes
344 dir(s) 7,295.86 MB free

Probably I'll never actually need them, though, but will rely on my full
system backup in any emergency. (Still, some day, I really should try a
fresh install, or as close as I can get to one on this Compaq.)

But I don't know what the catalog offers for foreign languages.
Hopefully, that's the same as it always was.

It's good to see your poodles found something to grab onto absent your
ten toes to get you out of that eleventh earthquake, Terhune!

| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:%2391EGCHNIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
|> 98 Guy wrote:
|> | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
|> |
|> |> So, while I wasn't looking, they apparently deleted all 9x Updates
|> |> from the Windows Update Catalog (now renamed "Microsoft Update
|> |> Catalog".)
|> |
|> | You can only access the old Windows Update Catalog from Windows 98
|> | or ME.
|>
|> I confirm that on this Win98SE the Catalog...
|> http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp
|>
|> ...STILL offers...!...
|>
|> 78 Critical Updates & Service Packs
|> 1 Additional Windows Downloads
|> 1 Internet & Multimedia Updates
|> 75 Multi-language Features
|> 15 Recommended Updates
|> 1 Windows Tools
|> 0 Advanced Security Updates
|>
|> | 2000, XP, and 2003 use the new Microsoft Update Catalog.
|> |
|> | WindowsUpdate will still feed an unpatched win-98 system with
|> | updates.
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
Re: Updates/upgrades

Did I tell you? I got more poodles...

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:u0VVQVgNIHA.5988@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> It's good to see your poodles found something to grab onto absent your
> ten toes to get you out of that eleventh earthquake, Terhune!
 
Re: Updates/upgrades

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| Did I tell you? I got more poodles...

Ah! You gained weight?

| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:u0VVQVgNIHA.5988@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
|> It's good to see your poodles found something to grab onto absent
|> your ten toes to get you out of that eleventh earthquake, Terhune!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
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