Windows Vista Ubuntu convert?

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Well not entirely, but after reading this newsgroup for months, seeing
perhaps thousands of posts, wanting to move to Vista BUT checking to see
if M$ made a BETTER or WORSE operating system for my needs, CONCLUDED:

F-O-R-G-E-T V-I-S-T-A!

Even magazine review after review RANKS on Vista for more than one
reason. And OVER AND OVER advise is to stick with XP (which I like for
the most part). And OVER AND OVER people want Vista OFF their PC!!

What to do?
Downloaded Ubuntu 7.1 ISO. Ran fine on my notebook PC (IBM ThinkPad). In
fact I was shocked at how easily everything went! It set itself up, even
had immediate internet access. The package includes networking, email,
file manager, multiple desktops, etc., even a weather widget which is
very nice! Two clicks and you have a radar weather map for any area. You
also have access to a large software repository for downloading other
programs. Amazing!

Tried Linux many years ago but gave up when install kept hanging because
of various SCSI devices on an older PC, but the Ubuntu release is FAR
better. (you've come a l-o-n-g way baby)

Must also say, just to be 'fair', in my opinion ubuntu as nice as it is
(and it is NICE) is still not to the point where a typical PC user will
find satisfaction because I think a higher than average knowledge of
PC's most likely is required to really USE its potential.

Never-the-less, try the FREE bootable CD Ubuntu offers. It will NOT
install itself on your HDD nor fool with ANYTHING to mess up your
existing setup of Windows or whatever. I did that, and decided to
install it! http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download

BTW: JFTR, I am not a Linux loony. The OS of choice here is, of all
things, Win98SE although I use XP a lot too, W2K4 occasionally. But in
searching for alternative OS's, NOT liking Micro$oft's direction nor
it's worldview, decided to see what the diligent Linux people have been
doing over the years. Found something I like!

WAKE UP Micro$oft, I not about to buy Vista and recommend to friends,
FORGET IT. You'd do MUCH better listening to what potential BUYERS want,
and not pursuing your own foolish ambitious goals!
 
Bye Bye Now

Bye Bye Now

Well, now that you are an Ubuntu convert, why stick around here with the
vista people? Maybe you should take Alias and Ray with you over to the
Ubuntu forums and help them out. With Open Sores software, they will need
all the help they can get. With the GUI about 7 years out of date, and the
functionality about 1/10 of Microsoft Office, you will be so busy, you won't
have any more time to put Vista, XP, or any other Microsoft product down.

Just FYI

"none" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
news:eRLTkvDOIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Well not entirely, but after reading this newsgroup for months, seeing
> perhaps thousands of posts, wanting to move to Vista BUT checking to see
> if M$ made a BETTER or WORSE operating system for my needs, CONCLUDED:
>
> F-O-R-G-E-T V-I-S-T-A!
>
> Even magazine review after review RANKS on Vista for more than one
> reason. And OVER AND OVER advise is to stick with XP (which I like for
> the most part). And OVER AND OVER people want Vista OFF their PC!!
>
> What to do?
> Downloaded Ubuntu 7.1 ISO. Ran fine on my notebook PC (IBM ThinkPad). In
> fact I was shocked at how easily everything went! It set itself up, even
> had immediate internet access. The package includes networking, email,
> file manager, multiple desktops, etc., even a weather widget which is
> very nice! Two clicks and you have a radar weather map for any area. You
> also have access to a large software repository for downloading other
> programs. Amazing!
>
> Tried Linux many years ago but gave up when install kept hanging because
> of various SCSI devices on an older PC, but the Ubuntu release is FAR
> better. (you've come a l-o-n-g way baby)
>
> Must also say, just to be 'fair', in my opinion ubuntu as nice as it is
> (and it is NICE) is still not to the point where a typical PC user will
> find satisfaction because I think a higher than average knowledge of
> PC's most likely is required to really USE its potential.
>
> Never-the-less, try the FREE bootable CD Ubuntu offers. It will NOT
> install itself on your HDD nor fool with ANYTHING to mess up your
> existing setup of Windows or whatever. I did that, and decided to
> install it! http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
>
> BTW: JFTR, I am not a Linux loony. The OS of choice here is, of all
> things, Win98SE although I use XP a lot too, W2K4 occasionally. But in
> searching for alternative OS's, NOT liking Micro$oft's direction nor
> it's worldview, decided to see what the diligent Linux people have been
> doing over the years. Found something I like!
>
> WAKE UP Micro$oft, I not about to buy Vista and recommend to friends,
> FORGET IT. You'd do MUCH better listening to what potential BUYERS want,
> and not pursuing your own foolish ambitious goals!
>
>
 
Re: Ubuntu convert?


"none" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
news:eRLTkvDOIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Well not entirely, but after reading this newsgroup for months, seeing
> perhaps thousands of posts, wanting to move to Vista BUT checking to see
> if M$ made a BETTER or WORSE operating system for my needs, CONCLUDED:
>
> F-O-R-G-E-T V-I-S-T-A!
>
> Even magazine review after review RANKS on Vista for more than one
> reason. And OVER AND OVER advise is to stick with XP (which I like for
> the most part). And OVER AND OVER people want Vista OFF their PC!!
>
> What to do?
> Downloaded Ubuntu 7.1 ISO. Ran fine on my notebook PC (IBM ThinkPad). In
> fact I was shocked at how easily everything went! It set itself up, even
> had immediate internet access. The package includes networking, email,
> file manager, multiple desktops, etc., even a weather widget which is
> very nice! Two clicks and you have a radar weather map for any area. You
> also have access to a large software repository for downloading other
> programs. Amazing!
>
> Tried Linux many years ago but gave up when install kept hanging because
> of various SCSI devices on an older PC, but the Ubuntu release is FAR
> better. (you've come a l-o-n-g way baby)
>
> Must also say, just to be 'fair', in my opinion ubuntu as nice as it is
> (and it is NICE) is still not to the point where a typical PC user will
> find satisfaction because I think a higher than average knowledge of
> PC's most likely is required to really USE its potential.
>
> Never-the-less, try the FREE bootable CD Ubuntu offers. It will NOT
> install itself on your HDD nor fool with ANYTHING to mess up your
> existing setup of Windows or whatever. I did that, and decided to
> install it! http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
>
> BTW: JFTR, I am not a Linux loony. The OS of choice here is, of all
> things, Win98SE although I use XP a lot too, W2K4 occasionally. But in
> searching for alternative OS's, NOT liking Micro$oft's direction nor
> it's worldview, decided to see what the diligent Linux people have been
> doing over the years. Found something I like!
>
> WAKE UP Micro$oft, I not about to buy Vista and recommend to friends,
> FORGET IT. You'd do MUCH better listening to what potential BUYERS want,
> and not pursuing your own foolish ambitious goals!
>

I installed Ubuntu...have since deleted it.
It looks horrible, oh , and "wobble" is hard on the eyes.
It detects NO hardware...I had to edit more conf files..what a pain !
Then , after trying the "restricted" drivers for my graphics card...system
start misbehaving...try rebooting...I get the White Screen of Death.

So I reformat both HD's...to get rid of GRUB...
ReInstalled XP and Vista within an hour !
And...upon first boot...Vista looks awesome !
It detects modem...its driver works !
ubuntu...took learning how to edit and configure wvdial to get it to work...
Vista...first boot 1200x1600...aero enabled...looks great
ubuntu...first boot 600x800...and looks horrible.
Vista detects onboard sound and creative sound card...Problem Reports
directs you right to the links to download drivers.
ubuntu...got fed up before getting this stuff installed...

Either I got extemely unlucky with my ubuntu experience...or people aren't
giving out true details.
Maybe in the future, if I have years of free time, I'll try it again.
But it wasn't much different then using Suse 2 years ago.

And...it has much the same prompts as UAC...unless you terminal sudo.

I may stick it on a old computer...that would be ubuntu's niche.
 
Re: Ubuntu convert?

One good thing...it comes with about 50 Screensavers...most were pretty cool
!

"forty-nine" <49@linux.p-u> wrote in message news:fj9t2b$ln1$1@aioe.org...
>
> "none" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
> news:eRLTkvDOIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Well not entirely, but after reading this newsgroup for months, seeing
>> perhaps thousands of posts, wanting to move to Vista BUT checking to see
>> if M$ made a BETTER or WORSE operating system for my needs, CONCLUDED:
>>
>> F-O-R-G-E-T V-I-S-T-A!
>>
>> Even magazine review after review RANKS on Vista for more than one
>> reason. And OVER AND OVER advise is to stick with XP (which I like for
>> the most part). And OVER AND OVER people want Vista OFF their PC!!
>>
>> What to do?
>> Downloaded Ubuntu 7.1 ISO. Ran fine on my notebook PC (IBM ThinkPad). In
>> fact I was shocked at how easily everything went! It set itself up, even
>> had immediate internet access. The package includes networking, email,
>> file manager, multiple desktops, etc., even a weather widget which is
>> very nice! Two clicks and you have a radar weather map for any area. You
>> also have access to a large software repository for downloading other
>> programs. Amazing!
>>
>> Tried Linux many years ago but gave up when install kept hanging because
>> of various SCSI devices on an older PC, but the Ubuntu release is FAR
>> better. (you've come a l-o-n-g way baby)
>>
>> Must also say, just to be 'fair', in my opinion ubuntu as nice as it is
>> (and it is NICE) is still not to the point where a typical PC user will
>> find satisfaction because I think a higher than average knowledge of
>> PC's most likely is required to really USE its potential.
>>
>> Never-the-less, try the FREE bootable CD Ubuntu offers. It will NOT
>> install itself on your HDD nor fool with ANYTHING to mess up your
>> existing setup of Windows or whatever. I did that, and decided to
>> install it! http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
>>
>> BTW: JFTR, I am not a Linux loony. The OS of choice here is, of all
>> things, Win98SE although I use XP a lot too, W2K4 occasionally. But in
>> searching for alternative OS's, NOT liking Micro$oft's direction nor
>> it's worldview, decided to see what the diligent Linux people have been
>> doing over the years. Found something I like!
>>
>> WAKE UP Micro$oft, I not about to buy Vista and recommend to friends,
>> FORGET IT. You'd do MUCH better listening to what potential BUYERS want,
>> and not pursuing your own foolish ambitious goals!
>>
>
> I installed Ubuntu...have since deleted it.
> It looks horrible, oh , and "wobble" is hard on the eyes.
> It detects NO hardware...I had to edit more conf files..what a pain !
> Then , after trying the "restricted" drivers for my graphics card...system
> start misbehaving...try rebooting...I get the White Screen of Death.
>
> So I reformat both HD's...to get rid of GRUB...
> ReInstalled XP and Vista within an hour !
> And...upon first boot...Vista looks awesome !
> It detects modem...its driver works !
> ubuntu...took learning how to edit and configure wvdial to get it to
> work...
> Vista...first boot 1200x1600...aero enabled...looks great
> ubuntu...first boot 600x800...and looks horrible.
> Vista detects onboard sound and creative sound card...Problem Reports
> directs you right to the links to download drivers.
> ubuntu...got fed up before getting this stuff installed...
>
> Either I got extemely unlucky with my ubuntu experience...or people aren't
> giving out true details.
> Maybe in the future, if I have years of free time, I'll try it again.
> But it wasn't much different then using Suse 2 years ago.
>
> And...it has much the same prompts as UAC...unless you terminal sudo.
>
> I may stick it on a old computer...that would be ubuntu's niche.
>
>
>
>
 
Re: Ubuntu convert?

forty-nine wrote:
>
> "none" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
> news:eRLTkvDOIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Well not entirely, but after reading this newsgroup for months, seeing
>> perhaps thousands of posts, wanting to move to Vista BUT checking to see
>> if M$ made a BETTER or WORSE operating system for my needs, CONCLUDED:
>>
>> F-O-R-G-E-T V-I-S-T-A!
>>
>> Even magazine review after review RANKS on Vista for more than one
>> reason. And OVER AND OVER advise is to stick with XP (which I like for
>> the most part). And OVER AND OVER people want Vista OFF their PC!!
>>
>> What to do?
>> Downloaded Ubuntu 7.1 ISO. Ran fine on my notebook PC (IBM ThinkPad). In
>> fact I was shocked at how easily everything went! It set itself up, even
>> had immediate internet access. The package includes networking, email,
>> file manager, multiple desktops, etc., even a weather widget which is
>> very nice! Two clicks and you have a radar weather map for any area. You
>> also have access to a large software repository for downloading other
>> programs. Amazing!
>>
>> Tried Linux many years ago but gave up when install kept hanging because
>> of various SCSI devices on an older PC, but the Ubuntu release is FAR
>> better. (you've come a l-o-n-g way baby)
>>
>> Must also say, just to be 'fair', in my opinion ubuntu as nice as it is
>> (and it is NICE) is still not to the point where a typical PC user will
>> find satisfaction because I think a higher than average knowledge of
>> PC's most likely is required to really USE its potential.
>>
>> Never-the-less, try the FREE bootable CD Ubuntu offers. It will NOT
>> install itself on your HDD nor fool with ANYTHING to mess up your
>> existing setup of Windows or whatever. I did that, and decided to
>> install it! http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
>>
>> BTW: JFTR, I am not a Linux loony. The OS of choice here is, of all
>> things, Win98SE although I use XP a lot too, W2K4 occasionally. But in
>> searching for alternative OS's, NOT liking Micro$oft's direction nor
>> it's worldview, decided to see what the diligent Linux people have been
>> doing over the years. Found something I like!
>>
>> WAKE UP Micro$oft, I not about to buy Vista and recommend to friends,
>> FORGET IT. You'd do MUCH better listening to what potential BUYERS want,
>> and not pursuing your own foolish ambitious goals!
>>
>
> I installed Ubuntu...have since deleted it.
> It looks horrible, oh , and "wobble" is hard on the eyes.

I like the wobble.

> It detects NO hardware...

Detected all of mine.

> I had to edit more conf files..what a pain !

Haven't had to edit a one.

> Then , after trying the "restricted" drivers for my graphics
> card...system start misbehaving...try rebooting...I get the White Screen
> of Death.

Never got that either.

Snip lame excuses.

Alias
 
Re: Ubuntu convert?



"forty-nine" <49@linux.p-u> wrote in message news:fj9uaq$or7$1@aioe.org...
> One good thing...it comes with about 50 Screensavers...most were pretty
> cool !
>
> "forty-nine" <49@linux.p-u> wrote in message news:fj9t2b$ln1$1@aioe.org...
>>
>> "none" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
>> news:eRLTkvDOIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Well not entirely, but after reading this newsgroup for months, seeing
>>> perhaps thousands of posts, wanting to move to Vista BUT checking to see
>>> if M$ made a BETTER or WORSE operating system for my needs, CONCLUDED:
>>>
>>> F-O-R-G-E-T V-I-S-T-A!
>>>
>>> Even magazine review after review RANKS on Vista for more than one
>>> reason. And OVER AND OVER advise is to stick with XP (which I like for
>>> the most part). And OVER AND OVER people want Vista OFF their PC!!
>>>
>>> What to do?
>>> Downloaded Ubuntu 7.1 ISO. Ran fine on my notebook PC (IBM ThinkPad). In
>>> fact I was shocked at how easily everything went! It set itself up, even
>>> had immediate internet access. The package includes networking, email,
>>> file manager, multiple desktops, etc., even a weather widget which is
>>> very nice! Two clicks and you have a radar weather map for any area. You
>>> also have access to a large software repository for downloading other
>>> programs. Amazing!
>>>
>>> Tried Linux many years ago but gave up when install kept hanging because
>>> of various SCSI devices on an older PC, but the Ubuntu release is FAR
>>> better. (you've come a l-o-n-g way baby)
>>>
>>> Must also say, just to be 'fair', in my opinion ubuntu as nice as it is
>>> (and it is NICE) is still not to the point where a typical PC user will
>>> find satisfaction because I think a higher than average knowledge of
>>> PC's most likely is required to really USE its potential.
>>>
>>> Never-the-less, try the FREE bootable CD Ubuntu offers. It will NOT
>>> install itself on your HDD nor fool with ANYTHING to mess up your
>>> existing setup of Windows or whatever. I did that, and decided to
>>> install it! http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
>>>
>>> BTW: JFTR, I am not a Linux loony. The OS of choice here is, of all
>>> things, Win98SE although I use XP a lot too, W2K4 occasionally. But in
>>> searching for alternative OS's, NOT liking Micro$oft's direction nor
>>> it's worldview, decided to see what the diligent Linux people have been
>>> doing over the years. Found something I like!
>>>
>>> WAKE UP Micro$oft, I not about to buy Vista and recommend to friends,
>>> FORGET IT. You'd do MUCH better listening to what potential BUYERS want,
>>> and not pursuing your own foolish ambitious goals!
>>>
>>
>> I installed Ubuntu...have since deleted it.
>> It looks horrible, oh , and "wobble" is hard on the eyes.
>> It detects NO hardware...I had to edit more conf files..what a pain !
>> Then , after trying the "restricted" drivers for my graphics
>> card...system start misbehaving...try rebooting...I get the White Screen
>> of Death.
>>
>> So I reformat both HD's...to get rid of GRUB...
>> ReInstalled XP and Vista within an hour !
>> And...upon first boot...Vista looks awesome !
>> It detects modem...its driver works !
>> ubuntu...took learning how to edit and configure wvdial to get it to
>> work...
>> Vista...first boot 1200x1600...aero enabled...looks great
>> ubuntu...first boot 600x800...and looks horrible.
>> Vista detects onboard sound and creative sound card...Problem Reports
>> directs you right to the links to download drivers.
>> ubuntu...got fed up before getting this stuff installed...
>>
>> Either I got extemely unlucky with my ubuntu experience...or people
>> aren't giving out true details.
>> Maybe in the future, if I have years of free time, I'll try it again.
>> But it wasn't much different then using Suse 2 years ago.
>>
>> And...it has much the same prompts as UAC...unless you terminal sudo.
>>
>> I may stick it on a old computer...that would be ubuntu's niche.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

I keep a couple of Linux distros handy. I have a Gentoo box in the corner
(server only, fully command line, no GUI installed) and Ubuntu dual boot on
here and currently dual booting XP with Fedora on another computer.

I ONLY keep Ubuntu and Fedora around because I have a few customers that
swear by them, so I have to be able to support them.

The point of this post is this, I have to agree about the screen savers,
they seem to be the coolest part of the Ubuntu experience.

Mic
 
Re: Ubuntu convert?


"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fja649$cuv$2@aioe.org...
> forty-nine wrote:
>>
>> "none" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
>> news:eRLTkvDOIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Well not entirely, but after reading this newsgroup for months, seeing
>>> perhaps thousands of posts, wanting to move to Vista BUT checking to see
>>> if M$ made a BETTER or WORSE operating system for my needs, CONCLUDED:
>>>
>>> F-O-R-G-E-T V-I-S-T-A!
>>>
>>> Even magazine review after review RANKS on Vista for more than one
>>> reason. And OVER AND OVER advise is to stick with XP (which I like for
>>> the most part). And OVER AND OVER people want Vista OFF their PC!!
>>>
>>> What to do?
>>> Downloaded Ubuntu 7.1 ISO. Ran fine on my notebook PC (IBM ThinkPad). In
>>> fact I was shocked at how easily everything went! It set itself up, even
>>> had immediate internet access. The package includes networking, email,
>>> file manager, multiple desktops, etc., even a weather widget which is
>>> very nice! Two clicks and you have a radar weather map for any area. You
>>> also have access to a large software repository for downloading other
>>> programs. Amazing!
>>>
>>> Tried Linux many years ago but gave up when install kept hanging because
>>> of various SCSI devices on an older PC, but the Ubuntu release is FAR
>>> better. (you've come a l-o-n-g way baby)
>>>
>>> Must also say, just to be 'fair', in my opinion ubuntu as nice as it is
>>> (and it is NICE) is still not to the point where a typical PC user will
>>> find satisfaction because I think a higher than average knowledge of
>>> PC's most likely is required to really USE its potential.
>>>
>>> Never-the-less, try the FREE bootable CD Ubuntu offers. It will NOT
>>> install itself on your HDD nor fool with ANYTHING to mess up your
>>> existing setup of Windows or whatever. I did that, and decided to
>>> install it! http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
>>>
>>> BTW: JFTR, I am not a Linux loony. The OS of choice here is, of all
>>> things, Win98SE although I use XP a lot too, W2K4 occasionally. But in
>>> searching for alternative OS's, NOT liking Micro$oft's direction nor
>>> it's worldview, decided to see what the diligent Linux people have been
>>> doing over the years. Found something I like!
>>>
>>> WAKE UP Micro$oft, I not about to buy Vista and recommend to friends,
>>> FORGET IT. You'd do MUCH better listening to what potential BUYERS want,
>>> and not pursuing your own foolish ambitious goals!
>>>
>>
>> I installed Ubuntu...have since deleted it.
>> It looks horrible, oh , and "wobble" is hard on the eyes.
>
> I like the wobble.
>
>> It detects NO hardware...
>
> Detected all of mine.
>
>> I had to edit more conf files..what a pain !
>
> Haven't had to edit a one.
>
>> Then , after trying the "restricted" drivers for my graphics
>> card...system start misbehaving...try rebooting...I get the White Screen
>> of Death.
>
> Never got that either.
>
> Snip lame excuses.
>
> Alias

So just because YOU don't have any problems with Ubuntu, you think that
other people don't have issues with Ubuntu?

Narrow minded Ubuntu user!!!! Should switch to a Windows solution.
 
Re: Ubuntu convert?

Alias wrote:

> forty-nine wrote:
>
>>
>> "none" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
>> news:eRLTkvDOIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> Well not entirely, but after reading this newsgroup for months, seeing
>>> perhaps thousands of posts, wanting to move to Vista BUT checking to see
>>> if M$ made a BETTER or WORSE operating system for my needs, CONCLUDED:
>>>
>>> F-O-R-G-E-T V-I-S-T-A!
>>>
>>> Even magazine review after review RANKS on Vista for more than one
>>> reason. And OVER AND OVER advise is to stick with XP (which I like for
>>> the most part). And OVER AND OVER people want Vista OFF their PC!!
>>>
>>> What to do?
>>> Downloaded Ubuntu 7.1 ISO. Ran fine on my notebook PC (IBM ThinkPad). In
>>> fact I was shocked at how easily everything went! It set itself up, even
>>> had immediate internet access. The package includes networking, email,
>>> file manager, multiple desktops, etc., even a weather widget which is
>>> very nice! Two clicks and you have a radar weather map for any area. You
>>> also have access to a large software repository for downloading other
>>> programs. Amazing!
>>>
>>> Tried Linux many years ago but gave up when install kept hanging because
>>> of various SCSI devices on an older PC, but the Ubuntu release is FAR
>>> better. (you've come a l-o-n-g way baby)
>>>
>>> Must also say, just to be 'fair', in my opinion ubuntu as nice as it is
>>> (and it is NICE) is still not to the point where a typical PC user will
>>> find satisfaction because I think a higher than average knowledge of
>>> PC's most likely is required to really USE its potential.
>>>
>>> Never-the-less, try the FREE bootable CD Ubuntu offers. It will NOT
>>> install itself on your HDD nor fool with ANYTHING to mess up your
>>> existing setup of Windows or whatever. I did that, and decided to
>>> install it! http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
>>>
>>> BTW: JFTR, I am not a Linux loony. The OS of choice here is, of all
>>> things, Win98SE although I use XP a lot too, W2K4 occasionally. But in
>>> searching for alternative OS's, NOT liking Micro$oft's direction nor
>>> it's worldview, decided to see what the diligent Linux people have been
>>> doing over the years. Found something I like!
>>>
>>> WAKE UP Micro$oft, I not about to buy Vista and recommend to friends,
>>> FORGET IT. You'd do MUCH better listening to what potential BUYERS want,
>>> and not pursuing your own foolish ambitious goals!
>>>
>>
>> I installed Ubuntu...have since deleted it.
>> It looks horrible, oh , and "wobble" is hard on the eyes.
>
>
> I like the wobble.

Well...it is a toy!
>
>> It detects NO hardware...
>
>
> Detected all of mine.

It does not detect all of the same hardware that Vista detects.
>
>> I had to edit more conf files..what a pain !
>
>
> Haven't had to edit a one.
>
You don't even know what he's talking about.

>> Then , after trying the "restricted" drivers for my graphics
>> card...system start misbehaving...try rebooting...I get the White
>> Screen of Death.
>
>
> Never got that either.

You only surf the web (your porn site(s)), email and ng's.
>
> Snip lame excuses.

You then need to snip all of your bs.
Frank
>
> Alias
 
Re: Ubuntu convert?


"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fja649$cuv$2@aioe.org...
> forty-nine wrote:
>>
>> I installed Ubuntu...have since deleted it.
>> It looks horrible, oh , and "wobble" is hard on the eyes.
>
> I like the wobble.
>
>> It detects NO hardware...
>
> Detected all of mine.
>
>> I had to edit more conf files..what a pain !
>
> Haven't had to edit a one.
>
>> Then , after trying the "restricted" drivers for my graphics
>> card...system start misbehaving...try rebooting...I get the White Screen
>> of Death.
>
> Never got that either.
>
> Snip lame excuses.
>
> Alias

Yeah right...snip the truth.

ubuntu is so far below the level of even XP...it reminded me of Win 3.1
ubuntu's file manager when viewing details was like DOSSHELL
It's free for a reason....and poor me paid $35 to get it with a book. : (
Maybe I can sell it on eBay.
 
Re: Ubuntu convert?



"none" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
news:eRLTkvDOIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Well not entirely, but after reading this newsgroup for months, seeing
> perhaps thousands of posts, wanting to move to Vista BUT checking to see
> if M$ made a BETTER or WORSE operating system for my needs, CONCLUDED:
>
> F-O-R-G-E-T V-I-S-T-A!
>
> Even magazine review after review RANKS on Vista for more than one
> reason. And OVER AND OVER advise is to stick with XP (which I like for
> the most part). And OVER AND OVER people want Vista OFF their PC!!
>
> What to do?
> Downloaded Ubuntu 7.1 ISO. Ran fine on my notebook PC (IBM ThinkPad). In
> fact I was shocked at how easily everything went! It set itself up, even
> had immediate internet access. The package includes networking, email,
> file manager, multiple desktops, etc., even a weather widget which is
>
> [snip]

Ya know, I don't buy an operating system I buy software programs. I have an
operating system to run the programs I buy. So why would I use an Operating
System like Ubuntu that won't run ANY of my existing software? I've been
running Vista for 6 months and my only complaint is IE7 locks up constantly
and that to me is not a Vista problem, I can always use FireFox or Mozilla
(just to lazy to and don't web browse that much anyway). XP? We have one
at work. Where is the backup program? I hear people complain how crappy
the Vista Backup is (which I've been using for 6 months with no problems
backing up to a DVD+RW every morning at 1am) but at least Vista has a
backup. But my biggest questions is if you don't like Vista, that's fine
but WHY ARE YOU HERE? Are you so insecure in your choice of O/S you need to
convince yourself your choice was right by trashing another O/S?
Personally I think Linux sucks but that is all the more reason for me to
waste NO TIME on any of their newsgroups touting Vista but then I guess some
people are so lonely that they will even insight arguments just to get
someone to talk to. Sad to be so lonely.


--
Mark R. Cusumano
Skype Name: mark.cusumano
Web: http://The-Padded-Cell.spaces.live.com
 
Re: Bye Bye Now

Re: Bye Bye Now

Office 2007 is such a pig, why even take this seriously?

"Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com> wrote in message
news:e2pcL0EOIHA.6060@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
Well, now that you are an Ubuntu convert, why stick around here with the
vista people? Maybe you should take Alias and Ray with you over to the
Ubuntu forums and help them out. With Open Sores software, they will need
all the help they can get. With the GUI about 7 years out of date, and the
functionality about 1/10 of Microsoft Office, you will be so busy, you won't
have any more time to put Vista, XP, or any other Microsoft product down.

Just FYI

"none" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
news:eRLTkvDOIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Well not entirely, but after reading this newsgroup for months, seeing
> perhaps thousands of posts, wanting to move to Vista BUT checking to see
> if M$ made a BETTER or WORSE operating system for my needs, CONCLUDED:
>
> F-O-R-G-E-T V-I-S-T-A!
>
> Even magazine review after review RANKS on Vista for more than one
> reason. And OVER AND OVER advise is to stick with XP (which I like for
> the most part). And OVER AND OVER people want Vista OFF their PC!!
>
> What to do?
> Downloaded Ubuntu 7.1 ISO. Ran fine on my notebook PC (IBM ThinkPad). In
> fact I was shocked at how easily everything went! It set itself up, even
> had immediate internet access. The package includes networking, email,
> file manager, multiple desktops, etc., even a weather widget which is
> very nice! Two clicks and you have a radar weather map for any area. You
> also have access to a large software repository for downloading other
> programs. Amazing!
>
> Tried Linux many years ago but gave up when install kept hanging because
> of various SCSI devices on an older PC, but the Ubuntu release is FAR
> better. (you've come a l-o-n-g way baby)
>
> Must also say, just to be 'fair', in my opinion ubuntu as nice as it is
> (and it is NICE) is still not to the point where a typical PC user will
> find satisfaction because I think a higher than average knowledge of
> PC's most likely is required to really USE its potential.
>
> Never-the-less, try the FREE bootable CD Ubuntu offers. It will NOT
> install itself on your HDD nor fool with ANYTHING to mess up your
> existing setup of Windows or whatever. I did that, and decided to
> install it! http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
>
> BTW: JFTR, I am not a Linux loony. The OS of choice here is, of all
> things, Win98SE although I use XP a lot too, W2K4 occasionally. But in
> searching for alternative OS's, NOT liking Micro$oft's direction nor
> it's worldview, decided to see what the diligent Linux people have been
> doing over the years. Found something I like!
>
> WAKE UP Micro$oft, I not about to buy Vista and recommend to friends,
> FORGET IT. You'd do MUCH better listening to what potential BUYERS want,
> and not pursuing your own foolish ambitious goals!
>
>
 
Re: Ubuntu convert?

I had no hardware or usage issues with the linux distros.
Knoppix on a CD ran awsome as well!
Microsoft has leveraged my main CAD software so I'm stuck.

"kevpan158" <kevpan158@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
news:unO0aUHOIHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fja649$cuv$2@aioe.org...
> forty-nine wrote:
>>
>> "none" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
>> news:eRLTkvDOIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Well not entirely, but after reading this newsgroup for months, seeing
>>> perhaps thousands of posts, wanting to move to Vista BUT checking to see
>>> if M$ made a BETTER or WORSE operating system for my needs, CONCLUDED:
>>>
>>> F-O-R-G-E-T V-I-S-T-A!
>>>
>>> Even magazine review after review RANKS on Vista for more than one
>>> reason. And OVER AND OVER advise is to stick with XP (which I like for
>>> the most part). And OVER AND OVER people want Vista OFF their PC!!
>>>
>>> What to do?
>>> Downloaded Ubuntu 7.1 ISO. Ran fine on my notebook PC (IBM ThinkPad). In
>>> fact I was shocked at how easily everything went! It set itself up, even
>>> had immediate internet access. The package includes networking, email,
>>> file manager, multiple desktops, etc., even a weather widget which is
>>> very nice! Two clicks and you have a radar weather map for any area. You
>>> also have access to a large software repository for downloading other
>>> programs. Amazing!
>>>
>>> Tried Linux many years ago but gave up when install kept hanging because
>>> of various SCSI devices on an older PC, but the Ubuntu release is FAR
>>> better. (you've come a l-o-n-g way baby)
>>>
>>> Must also say, just to be 'fair', in my opinion ubuntu as nice as it is
>>> (and it is NICE) is still not to the point where a typical PC user will
>>> find satisfaction because I think a higher than average knowledge of
>>> PC's most likely is required to really USE its potential.
>>>
>>> Never-the-less, try the FREE bootable CD Ubuntu offers. It will NOT
>>> install itself on your HDD nor fool with ANYTHING to mess up your
>>> existing setup of Windows or whatever. I did that, and decided to
>>> install it! http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
>>>
>>> BTW: JFTR, I am not a Linux loony. The OS of choice here is, of all
>>> things, Win98SE although I use XP a lot too, W2K4 occasionally. But in
>>> searching for alternative OS's, NOT liking Micro$oft's direction nor
>>> it's worldview, decided to see what the diligent Linux people have been
>>> doing over the years. Found something I like!
>>>
>>> WAKE UP Micro$oft, I not about to buy Vista and recommend to friends,
>>> FORGET IT. You'd do MUCH better listening to what potential BUYERS want,
>>> and not pursuing your own foolish ambitious goals!
>>>
>>
>> I installed Ubuntu...have since deleted it.
>> It looks horrible, oh , and "wobble" is hard on the eyes.
>
> I like the wobble.
>
>> It detects NO hardware...
>
> Detected all of mine.
>
>> I had to edit more conf files..what a pain !
>
> Haven't had to edit a one.
>
>> Then , after trying the "restricted" drivers for my graphics
>> card...system start misbehaving...try rebooting...I get the White Screen
>> of Death.
>
> Never got that either.
>
> Snip lame excuses.
>
> Alias

So just because YOU don't have any problems with Ubuntu, you think that
other people don't have issues with Ubuntu?

Narrow minded Ubuntu user!!!! Should switch to a Windows solution.
 
Re: Ubuntu convert?

My IE7 is wasted, can't fix it, have not found an answer.
So I use Firefox.
IE7 is a Vista problem that is lagging so badly in response I'm just a bit
more insulted by Microsofts performance with this "Roll out".
I wasted a good chunk of change on this POS.

"Mark R. Cusumano" <spam@bitbucket.net> wrote in message
news:XMCdndFuuZw4XsXanZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@comcast.com...


"none" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
news:eRLTkvDOIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Well not entirely, but after reading this newsgroup for months, seeing
> perhaps thousands of posts, wanting to move to Vista BUT checking to see
> if M$ made a BETTER or WORSE operating system for my needs, CONCLUDED:
>
> F-O-R-G-E-T V-I-S-T-A!
>
> Even magazine review after review RANKS on Vista for more than one
> reason. And OVER AND OVER advise is to stick with XP (which I like for
> the most part). And OVER AND OVER people want Vista OFF their PC!!
>
> What to do?
> Downloaded Ubuntu 7.1 ISO. Ran fine on my notebook PC (IBM ThinkPad). In
> fact I was shocked at how easily everything went! It set itself up, even
> had immediate internet access. The package includes networking, email,
> file manager, multiple desktops, etc., even a weather widget which is
>
> [snip]

Ya know, I don't buy an operating system I buy software programs. I have an
operating system to run the programs I buy. So why would I use an Operating
System like Ubuntu that won't run ANY of my existing software? I've been
running Vista for 6 months and my only complaint is IE7 locks up constantly
and that to me is not a Vista problem, I can always use FireFox or Mozilla
(just to lazy to and don't web browse that much anyway). XP? We have one
at work. Where is the backup program? I hear people complain how crappy
the Vista Backup is (which I've been using for 6 months with no problems
backing up to a DVD+RW every morning at 1am) but at least Vista has a
backup. But my biggest questions is if you don't like Vista, that's fine
but WHY ARE YOU HERE? Are you so insecure in your choice of O/S you need to
convince yourself your choice was right by trashing another O/S?
Personally I think Linux sucks but that is all the more reason for me to
waste NO TIME on any of their newsgroups touting Vista but then I guess some
people are so lonely that they will even insight arguments just to get
someone to talk to. Sad to be so lonely.


--
Mark R. Cusumano
Skype Name: mark.cusumano
Web: http://The-Padded-Cell.spaces.live.com
 
Re: Ubuntu convert?

kevpan158 wrote:
> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fja649$cuv$2@aioe.org...
>> forty-nine wrote:
>>> "none" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eRLTkvDOIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Well not entirely, but after reading this newsgroup for months, seeing
>>>> perhaps thousands of posts, wanting to move to Vista BUT checking to see
>>>> if M$ made a BETTER or WORSE operating system for my needs, CONCLUDED:
>>>>
>>>> F-O-R-G-E-T V-I-S-T-A!
>>>>
>>>> Even magazine review after review RANKS on Vista for more than one
>>>> reason. And OVER AND OVER advise is to stick with XP (which I like for
>>>> the most part). And OVER AND OVER people want Vista OFF their PC!!
>>>>
>>>> What to do?
>>>> Downloaded Ubuntu 7.1 ISO. Ran fine on my notebook PC (IBM ThinkPad). In
>>>> fact I was shocked at how easily everything went! It set itself up, even
>>>> had immediate internet access. The package includes networking, email,
>>>> file manager, multiple desktops, etc., even a weather widget which is
>>>> very nice! Two clicks and you have a radar weather map for any area. You
>>>> also have access to a large software repository for downloading other
>>>> programs. Amazing!
>>>>
>>>> Tried Linux many years ago but gave up when install kept hanging because
>>>> of various SCSI devices on an older PC, but the Ubuntu release is FAR
>>>> better. (you've come a l-o-n-g way baby)
>>>>
>>>> Must also say, just to be 'fair', in my opinion ubuntu as nice as it is
>>>> (and it is NICE) is still not to the point where a typical PC user will
>>>> find satisfaction because I think a higher than average knowledge of
>>>> PC's most likely is required to really USE its potential.
>>>>
>>>> Never-the-less, try the FREE bootable CD Ubuntu offers. It will NOT
>>>> install itself on your HDD nor fool with ANYTHING to mess up your
>>>> existing setup of Windows or whatever. I did that, and decided to
>>>> install it! http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
>>>>
>>>> BTW: JFTR, I am not a Linux loony. The OS of choice here is, of all
>>>> things, Win98SE although I use XP a lot too, W2K4 occasionally. But in
>>>> searching for alternative OS's, NOT liking Micro$oft's direction nor
>>>> it's worldview, decided to see what the diligent Linux people have been
>>>> doing over the years. Found something I like!
>>>>
>>>> WAKE UP Micro$oft, I not about to buy Vista and recommend to friends,
>>>> FORGET IT. You'd do MUCH better listening to what potential BUYERS want,
>>>> and not pursuing your own foolish ambitious goals!
>>>>
>>> I installed Ubuntu...have since deleted it.
>>> It looks horrible, oh , and "wobble" is hard on the eyes.
>> I like the wobble.
>>
>>> It detects NO hardware...
>> Detected all of mine.
>>
>>> I had to edit more conf files..what a pain !
>> Haven't had to edit a one.
>>
>>> Then , after trying the "restricted" drivers for my graphics
>>> card...system start misbehaving...try rebooting...I get the White Screen
>>> of Death.
>> Never got that either.
>>
>> Snip lame excuses.
>>
>> Alias
>
> So just because YOU don't have any problems with Ubuntu, you think that
> other people don't have issues with Ubuntu?

Yep, being as I have installed Ubuntu on dozens of machines with dozens
of different hardware configurations.

>
> Narrow minded Ubuntu user!!!! Should switch to a Windows solution.

I use XP every day.

Alias
 
Re: Ubuntu convert?

Frank wrote:

>
> You only surf the web (your porn site(s)), email and ng's.

And watching DVDs, word processing, spread sheets, image editing, IMing,
ripping and listening to music, Internet radio, data bases,
presentations, Google Earth, games and more, ill informed liar!

Alias
 
Re: Ubuntu convert?


"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fjbhgu$p0d$1@aioe.org...
> Frank wrote:
>
>>
>> You only surf the web (your porn site(s)), email and ng's.
>
> And watching DVDs, word processing, spread sheets, image editing, IMing,
> ripping and listening to music, Internet radio, data bases, presentations,
> Google Earth, games and more, ill informed liar!
>
> Alias

Who the heck do you make presentations to ?
Pushing ubuntu at the old folks home ?
 
Re: Ubuntu convert?

forty-nine wrote:
>
> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fjbhgu$p0d$1@aioe.org...
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> You only surf the web (your porn site(s)), email and ng's.
>>
>> And watching DVDs, word processing, spread sheets, image editing,
>> IMing, ripping and listening to music, Internet radio, data bases,
>> presentations, Google Earth, games and more, ill informed liar!
>>
>> Alias
>
> Who the heck do you make presentations to ?

To whomever you want.

> Pushing ubuntu at the old folks home ?

Please spare us your fantasies. I know *no one* in an old folks home.

Alias
 
Re: Ubuntu convert?


"Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message news:fjblqq$691$1@aioe.org...
> forty-nine wrote:
>>
>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:fjbhgu$p0d$1@aioe.org...
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> You only surf the web (your porn site(s)), email and ng's.
>>>
>>> And watching DVDs, word processing, spread sheets, image editing, IMing,
>>> ripping and listening to music, Internet radio, data bases,
>>> presentations, Google Earth, games and more, ill informed liar!
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>> Who the heck do you make presentations to ?
>
> To whomever you want.
>
>> Pushing ubuntu at the old folks home ?
>
> Please spare us your fantasies. I know *no one* in an old folks home.
>
> Alias

What a friggin liar.
A 60 year old man pushing ubuntu to "dozens" of clients....its old people !
How many young people want ubuntu?
None.
Do a survey !
No young people want a crappy POS OS that needs constant tinkering !
Young people want results!
Vista is results !
Ubuntu is old Europe....useless.
Vista is America !....it kicks tail !
Put your old butt on the list of things Kick Arse Americans don't want...
tired old crap.
I tried ubuntu....it sucks, you stupid old has been.
Go hug a homeless linux user...
Linux is the biggest POS ever....crayons have better graphics.
 
Re: Ubuntu convert?

On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 18:34:12 -0800, Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:
>
>> forty-nine wrote:
>>
>>
>>> "none" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eRLTkvDOIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>> Well not entirely, but after reading this newsgroup for months,
>>>> seeing perhaps thousands of posts, wanting to move to Vista BUT
>>>> checking to see if M$ made a BETTER or WORSE operating system for my
>>>> needs, CONCLUDED:
>>>>
>>>> F-O-R-G-E-T V-I-S-T-A!
>>>>
>>>> Even magazine review after review RANKS on Vista for more than one
>>>> reason. And OVER AND OVER advise is to stick with XP (which I like
>>>> for the most part). And OVER AND OVER people want Vista OFF their
>>>> PC!!
>>>>
>>>> What to do?
>>>> Downloaded Ubuntu 7.1 ISO. Ran fine on my notebook PC (IBM ThinkPad).
>>>> In fact I was shocked at how easily everything went! It set itself
>>>> up, even had immediate internet access. The package includes
>>>> networking, email, file manager, multiple desktops, etc., even a
>>>> weather widget which is very nice! Two clicks and you have a radar
>>>> weather map for any area. You also have access to a large software
>>>> repository for downloading other programs. Amazing!
>>>>
>>>> Tried Linux many years ago but gave up when install kept hanging
>>>> because of various SCSI devices on an older PC, but the Ubuntu
>>>> release is FAR better. (you've come a l-o-n-g way baby)
>>>>
>>>> Must also say, just to be 'fair', in my opinion ubuntu as nice as it
>>>> is (and it is NICE) is still not to the point where a typical PC user
>>>> will find satisfaction because I think a higher than average
>>>> knowledge of PC's most likely is required to really USE its
>>>> potential.
>>>>
>>>> Never-the-less, try the FREE bootable CD Ubuntu offers. It will NOT
>>>> install itself on your HDD nor fool with ANYTHING to mess up your
>>>> existing setup of Windows or whatever. I did that, and decided to
>>>> install it! http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
>>>>
>>>> BTW: JFTR, I am not a Linux loony. The OS of choice here is, of all
>>>> things, Win98SE although I use XP a lot too, W2K4 occasionally. But
>>>> in searching for alternative OS's, NOT liking Micro$oft's direction
>>>> nor it's worldview, decided to see what the diligent Linux people
>>>> have been doing over the years. Found something I like!
>>>>
>>>> WAKE UP Micro$oft, I not about to buy Vista and recommend to friends,
>>>> FORGET IT. You'd do MUCH better listening to what potential BUYERS
>>>> want, and not pursuing your own foolish ambitious goals!
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I installed Ubuntu...have since deleted it. It looks horrible, oh ,
>>> and "wobble" is hard on the eyes.
>>
>>
>> I like the wobble.
>
> Well...it is a toy!

So is the "blur" thing that Aero does! I mean seriously, first they make
window borders transparent so you can see through, and then they go blur
the contents so you still can't see ****!

I definitely call that a toy...

>>
>>> It detects NO hardware...
>>
>>
>> Detected all of mine.
>
> It does not detect all of the same hardware that Vista detects.

Well it detects all *my* hardware and Vista does *not* detect all *my*
hardware. Seriously Vista does not detect roughly 50% of the hardware on
this system...just a simple fact when I tested Vista on it and none of it
is exotic hardware.

>>
>> Never got that either.
>
> You only surf the web (your porn site(s)), email and ng's.

Now what exactly would be wrong with that? =)

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

君の事思い出す日なんてないのは
君の事忘れたときがないから
 
Re: Ubuntu convert?

BS...so, if ubuntu detected your hardware....what resolution did you first
boot to?

"Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
news:BYidnX3c9ZxOT8TanZ2dnUVZ8vqdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 18:34:12 -0800, Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> forty-nine wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "none" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:eRLTkvDOIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>> Well not entirely, but after reading this newsgroup for months,
>>>>> seeing perhaps thousands of posts, wanting to move to Vista BUT
>>>>> checking to see if M$ made a BETTER or WORSE operating system for my
>>>>> needs, CONCLUDED:
>>>>>
>>>>> F-O-R-G-E-T V-I-S-T-A!
>>>>>
>>>>> Even magazine review after review RANKS on Vista for more than one
>>>>> reason. And OVER AND OVER advise is to stick with XP (which I like
>>>>> for the most part). And OVER AND OVER people want Vista OFF their
>>>>> PC!!
>>>>>
>>>>> What to do?
>>>>> Downloaded Ubuntu 7.1 ISO. Ran fine on my notebook PC (IBM ThinkPad).
>>>>> In fact I was shocked at how easily everything went! It set itself
>>>>> up, even had immediate internet access. The package includes
>>>>> networking, email, file manager, multiple desktops, etc., even a
>>>>> weather widget which is very nice! Two clicks and you have a radar
>>>>> weather map for any area. You also have access to a large software
>>>>> repository for downloading other programs. Amazing!
>>>>>
>>>>> Tried Linux many years ago but gave up when install kept hanging
>>>>> because of various SCSI devices on an older PC, but the Ubuntu
>>>>> release is FAR better. (you've come a l-o-n-g way baby)
>>>>>
>>>>> Must also say, just to be 'fair', in my opinion ubuntu as nice as it
>>>>> is (and it is NICE) is still not to the point where a typical PC user
>>>>> will find satisfaction because I think a higher than average
>>>>> knowledge of PC's most likely is required to really USE its
>>>>> potential.
>>>>>
>>>>> Never-the-less, try the FREE bootable CD Ubuntu offers. It will NOT
>>>>> install itself on your HDD nor fool with ANYTHING to mess up your
>>>>> existing setup of Windows or whatever. I did that, and decided to
>>>>> install it! http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW: JFTR, I am not a Linux loony. The OS of choice here is, of all
>>>>> things, Win98SE although I use XP a lot too, W2K4 occasionally. But
>>>>> in searching for alternative OS's, NOT liking Micro$oft's direction
>>>>> nor it's worldview, decided to see what the diligent Linux people
>>>>> have been doing over the years. Found something I like!
>>>>>
>>>>> WAKE UP Micro$oft, I not about to buy Vista and recommend to friends,
>>>>> FORGET IT. You'd do MUCH better listening to what potential BUYERS
>>>>> want, and not pursuing your own foolish ambitious goals!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I installed Ubuntu...have since deleted it. It looks horrible, oh ,
>>>> and "wobble" is hard on the eyes.
>>>
>>>
>>> I like the wobble.
>>
>> Well...it is a toy!
>
> So is the "blur" thing that Aero does! I mean seriously, first they make
> window borders transparent so you can see through, and then they go blur
> the contents so you still can't see ****!
>
> I definitely call that a toy...
>
>>>
>>>> It detects NO hardware...
>>>
>>>
>>> Detected all of mine.
>>
>> It does not detect all of the same hardware that Vista detects.
>
> Well it detects all *my* hardware and Vista does *not* detect all *my*
> hardware. Seriously Vista does not detect roughly 50% of the hardware on
> this system...just a simple fact when I tested Vista on it and none of it
> is exotic hardware.
>
>>>
>>> Never got that either.
>>
>> You only surf the web (your porn site(s)), email and ng's.
>
> Now what exactly would be wrong with that? =)
>
> --
> Stephan
> 2003 Yamaha R6
>
> 君の事思い出す日なんてないのは
> 君の事忘れたときがないから
 
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