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periboob
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Right now, all I know is that there are a lot of people that are having
Vista problems. And a number of people who are not. It seems to me, more
of each type than can be explained by user-differences. Probably more
than can be explained by installing on known incompatible hardware. What
if there is a combination of chip-set, memory, video, etc that Vista is
incompatible with? Has anyone checked? Note that vendors have no
motivation to check this, because it could adversly impact sales.
I would like to find a moderately civil forum/resource where people who
are having problems with Vista can post, or have already posted their
problems, along with their system parameters. Also, people who are not
having problems could post their system configuration. The objective
being to have a tool that would help with shopping for a system,
providing more information to a careful shopper, to improve their odds
of getting a satisfactory experience.
The tool should consider things like system brand, model number,
parameters of CPU, Memory, Storage (ready boost), Video (brand, model,
memory)... Which software is running well, which is not, attached
accessories (like printers, WiFi, scanners,...)
The MS Hardware Compatibility List has been suggested, but The HCL is
usless for this purpose. It lists hardware that Microsoft insider gurus
can beat into submission. It has to, or HW vendors lawyers would have a
hissy-fit. Further, every HW vendor will make every effort to stretch
the truth, so their machines will sell. Marketing forces will bend the
HCL to the point that, for most of us it will be ridiculously biased.
(remember the absurd minimum memory specs MS has allowed for the last
3-4 versions of Windows?)
Would a tool like this be hard to create? How many programmers will
have to be laid-off if 20% of the potential customers for Vista, just
refuse? Put 1% of those programmers to work now, because a lot more than
20% of the people I know are sure dragging their feet.
Anyway, I am not suggesting someone create the reference, that will be
built by the users--I just want a few bright web programmers to build a
data collection tool, so if I am considering buying for example, a Dell
Vostro with 2GB, Intel 1.6GHz Core2, and want to run Photoshop, Open
Office, Firefox, Hooked to an XYZ printer, with a GWIZ wireless
router,... I can get a clue what problems others may have had. Maybe a
little map display to start with yellow blotches where you might expect
problems, red for known traps, green for safe... Maybe a place to store
the output of DxDiag, along with some user-experience results...
An opportunistic person might even make a lot of money, because they
could sell ads, and there are going to be a lot of eyeballs on real
information about when and why Vista works or dosent, as opposed to a
rather tedious exchange of insults on most forums I have found.
(vistax64.com is a good exception)
Anyone have links like that? Either showing some results, or just
collecting serious information? (skip the links to the unmoderated
battles between chronic complainers, fanboys, trolls and such)
--
periboob
Vista problems. And a number of people who are not. It seems to me, more
of each type than can be explained by user-differences. Probably more
than can be explained by installing on known incompatible hardware. What
if there is a combination of chip-set, memory, video, etc that Vista is
incompatible with? Has anyone checked? Note that vendors have no
motivation to check this, because it could adversly impact sales.
I would like to find a moderately civil forum/resource where people who
are having problems with Vista can post, or have already posted their
problems, along with their system parameters. Also, people who are not
having problems could post their system configuration. The objective
being to have a tool that would help with shopping for a system,
providing more information to a careful shopper, to improve their odds
of getting a satisfactory experience.
The tool should consider things like system brand, model number,
parameters of CPU, Memory, Storage (ready boost), Video (brand, model,
memory)... Which software is running well, which is not, attached
accessories (like printers, WiFi, scanners,...)
The MS Hardware Compatibility List has been suggested, but The HCL is
usless for this purpose. It lists hardware that Microsoft insider gurus
can beat into submission. It has to, or HW vendors lawyers would have a
hissy-fit. Further, every HW vendor will make every effort to stretch
the truth, so their machines will sell. Marketing forces will bend the
HCL to the point that, for most of us it will be ridiculously biased.
(remember the absurd minimum memory specs MS has allowed for the last
3-4 versions of Windows?)
Would a tool like this be hard to create? How many programmers will
have to be laid-off if 20% of the potential customers for Vista, just
refuse? Put 1% of those programmers to work now, because a lot more than
20% of the people I know are sure dragging their feet.
Anyway, I am not suggesting someone create the reference, that will be
built by the users--I just want a few bright web programmers to build a
data collection tool, so if I am considering buying for example, a Dell
Vostro with 2GB, Intel 1.6GHz Core2, and want to run Photoshop, Open
Office, Firefox, Hooked to an XYZ printer, with a GWIZ wireless
router,... I can get a clue what problems others may have had. Maybe a
little map display to start with yellow blotches where you might expect
problems, red for known traps, green for safe... Maybe a place to store
the output of DxDiag, along with some user-experience results...
An opportunistic person might even make a lot of money, because they
could sell ads, and there are going to be a lot of eyeballs on real
information about when and why Vista works or dosent, as opposed to a
rather tedious exchange of insults on most forums I have found.
(vistax64.com is a good exception)
Anyone have links like that? Either showing some results, or just
collecting serious information? (skip the links to the unmoderated
battles between chronic complainers, fanboys, trolls and such)
--
periboob
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