Vista 64 trade down

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I have kept the faith in Vista 64 since it's release but alas the majority of
my hardware - Ipod Nano, Sony camera & camcorder, Archos, various phones,
memory cards, memory sticks and USB hubs fail to be recognised. They all work
flawlessly on the second PC running XP home edition.
Manufacturers just don't support this operating system and are not at all
interested in supporting it.
It's a shame, as the rest of it seems stable on my AMD 3800 x 2 system.

My version of Vista is a 64 bit premium OEM version. Does anybody know
whether Microsoft can offer me some sort of discount/trade in on the 32bit
version?
Don't want to have to shell out again for another version of windows

Does Mr Gates have an obligation to give me a system that will communicate
better with the outside world? Several items of hardware that I name above
are current state of the art products.All I read from MS is that it is the
hardware manufacturer's fault and you should contact them...

Or is there something better coming along for Vista 64, which will correct
the problem?
 
Re: Vista 64 trade down

Your only recourse with OEM is to hope the OEM supplier will do a swap.
Microsoft's involvement ends with selling it to the OEM.

FWIW, my iPod Nano works just fine. Well, OK, it doesn't burn CDs because
their software doesn't support that in 64bit. But honestly I don't care.
Everything else works. As for USB hubs, flash memory drives, etc? no issue
at all.

Also, let's be very clear. Mr. Gates is no longer actively managing MS.
Hasn't for several years.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Pete Shields" <PeteShields@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4DAA72A2-4603-4EBD-B9B6-10244A4FF597@microsoft.com...
>I have kept the faith in Vista 64 since it's release but alas the majority
>of
> my hardware - Ipod Nano, Sony camera & camcorder, Archos, various phones,
> memory cards, memory sticks and USB hubs fail to be recognised. They all
> work
> flawlessly on the second PC running XP home edition.
> Manufacturers just don't support this operating system and are not at all
> interested in supporting it.
> It's a shame, as the rest of it seems stable on my AMD 3800 x 2 system.
>
> My version of Vista is a 64 bit premium OEM version. Does anybody know
> whether Microsoft can offer me some sort of discount/trade in on the 32bit
> version?
> Don't want to have to shell out again for another version of windows
>
> Does Mr Gates have an obligation to give me a system that will communicate
> better with the outside world? Several items of hardware that I name above
> are current state of the art products.All I read from MS is that it is the
> hardware manufacturer's fault and you should contact them...
>
> Or is there something better coming along for Vista 64, which will correct
> the problem?
>
>
 
Re: Vista 64 trade down

Also my cell phone works flawlessly with Windows Vista x64.
It is an W510 Motorola.
Motorola has excellent driver support for their phones on both x86 and x64
systems here:
http://developer.motorola.com/docstools/USB_Drivers/
Carlos

"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> Your only recourse with OEM is to hope the OEM supplier will do a swap.
> Microsoft's involvement ends with selling it to the OEM.
>
> FWIW, my iPod Nano works just fine. Well, OK, it doesn't burn CDs because
> their software doesn't support that in 64bit. But honestly I don't care.
> Everything else works. As for USB hubs, flash memory drives, etc? no issue
> at all.
>
> Also, let's be very clear. Mr. Gates is no longer actively managing MS.
> Hasn't for several years.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "Pete Shields" <PeteShields@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4DAA72A2-4603-4EBD-B9B6-10244A4FF597@microsoft.com...
> >I have kept the faith in Vista 64 since it's release but alas the majority
> >of
> > my hardware - Ipod Nano, Sony camera & camcorder, Archos, various phones,
> > memory cards, memory sticks and USB hubs fail to be recognised. They all
> > work
> > flawlessly on the second PC running XP home edition.
> > Manufacturers just don't support this operating system and are not at all
> > interested in supporting it.
> > It's a shame, as the rest of it seems stable on my AMD 3800 x 2 system.
> >
> > My version of Vista is a 64 bit premium OEM version. Does anybody know
> > whether Microsoft can offer me some sort of discount/trade in on the 32bit
> > version?
> > Don't want to have to shell out again for another version of windows
> >
> > Does Mr Gates have an obligation to give me a system that will communicate
> > better with the outside world? Several items of hardware that I name above
> > are current state of the art products.All I read from MS is that it is the
> > hardware manufacturer's fault and you should contact them...
> >
> > Or is there something better coming along for Vista 64, which will correct
> > the problem?
> >
> >
>
 
Re: Vista 64 trade down



"Carlos" wrote:

> Also my cell phone works flawlessly with Windows Vista x64.
> It is an W510 Motorola.
> Motorola has excellent driver support for their phones on both x86 and x64
> systems here:
> http://developer.motorola.com/docstools/USB_Drivers/
> Carlos
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:
>
> > Your only recourse with OEM is to hope the OEM supplier will do a swap.
> > Microsoft's involvement ends with selling it to the OEM.
> >
> > FWIW, my iPod Nano works just fine. Well, OK, it doesn't burn CDs because
> > their software doesn't support that in 64bit. But honestly I don't care.
> > Everything else works. As for USB hubs, flash memory drives, etc? no issue
> > at all.
> >
> > Also, let's be very clear. Mr. Gates is no longer actively managing MS.
> > Hasn't for several years.
> >
> > --
> > Charlie.
> > http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
> >
> >
> > "Pete Shields" <PeteShields@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:4DAA72A2-4603-4EBD-B9B6-10244A4FF597@microsoft.com...
> > >I have kept the faith in Vista 64 since it's release but alas the majority
> > >of
> > > my hardware - Ipod Nano, Sony camera & camcorder, Archos, various phones,
> > > memory cards, memory sticks and USB hubs fail to be recognised. They all
> > > work
> > > flawlessly on the second PC running XP home edition.
> > > Manufacturers just don't support this operating system and are not at all
> > > interested in supporting it.
> > > It's a shame, as the rest of it seems stable on my AMD 3800 x 2 system.
> > >
> > > My version of Vista is a 64 bit premium OEM version. Does anybody know
> > > whether Microsoft can offer me some sort of discount/trade in on the 32bit
> > > version?
> > > Don't want to have to shell out again for another version of windows
> > >
> > > Does Mr Gates have an obligation to give me a system that will communicate
> > > better with the outside world? Several items of hardware that I name above
> > > are current state of the art products.All I read from MS is that it is the
> > > hardware manufacturer's fault and you should contact them...
> > >
> > > Or is there something better coming along for Vista 64, which will correct
> > > the problem?
> > >
> > >
> >
 
Re: Vista 64 trade down

Charlie, I'm using iTunes v7.3.1.3 with the 64-bit GEAR drivers and works
fine, tried installing v7.5 and couldn't use the CD so went back to v7.3


"Pete Shields" <PeteShields@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:518B61FE-D88B-4DD7-A27E-0295A2D5B5DA@microsoft.com...
>
>
> "Carlos" wrote:
>
>> Also my cell phone works flawlessly with Windows Vista x64.
>> It is an W510 Motorola.
>> Motorola has excellent driver support for their phones on both x86 and
>> x64
>> systems here:
>> http://developer.motorola.com/docstools/USB_Drivers/
>> Carlos
>>
>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:
>>
>> > Your only recourse with OEM is to hope the OEM supplier will do a swap.
>> > Microsoft's involvement ends with selling it to the OEM.
>> >
>> > FWIW, my iPod Nano works just fine. Well, OK, it doesn't burn CDs
>> > because
>> > their software doesn't support that in 64bit. But honestly I don't
>> > care.
>> > Everything else works. As for USB hubs, flash memory drives, etc? no
>> > issue
>> > at all.
>> >
>> > Also, let's be very clear. Mr. Gates is no longer actively managing MS.
>> > Hasn't for several years.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Charlie.
>> > http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>> >
>> >
>> > "Pete Shields" <PeteShields@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:4DAA72A2-4603-4EBD-B9B6-10244A4FF597@microsoft.com...
>> > >I have kept the faith in Vista 64 since it's release but alas the
>> > >majority
>> > >of
>> > > my hardware - Ipod Nano, Sony camera & camcorder, Archos, various
>> > > phones,
>> > > memory cards, memory sticks and USB hubs fail to be recognised. They
>> > > all
>> > > work
>> > > flawlessly on the second PC running XP home edition.
>> > > Manufacturers just don't support this operating system and are not at
>> > > all
>> > > interested in supporting it.
>> > > It's a shame, as the rest of it seems stable on my AMD 3800 x 2
>> > > system.
>> > >
>> > > My version of Vista is a 64 bit premium OEM version. Does anybody
>> > > know
>> > > whether Microsoft can offer me some sort of discount/trade in on the
>> > > 32bit
>> > > version?
>> > > Don't want to have to shell out again for another version of windows
>> > >
>> > > Does Mr Gates have an obligation to give me a system that will
>> > > communicate
>> > > better with the outside world? Several items of hardware that I name
>> > > above
>> > > are current state of the art products.All I read from MS is that it
>> > > is the
>> > > hardware manufacturer's fault and you should contact them...
>> > >
>> > > Or is there something better coming along for Vista 64, which will
>> > > correct
>> > > the problem?
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
 
Re: Vista 64 trade down

yeah, I thought i remembered that it had worked at one point. Or rather that
I hadn't gotten the annoying "not installed correctly" messages. I don't use
my iPod for anything except listening to Audible books, so I don't actually
care. My portable music is mostly in .wma format, so gets stuck on my zune.
Which is NOT getting upgraded to the new software, thank you.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Clayton" <claytonbNOSPAM@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
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> Charlie, I'm using iTunes v7.3.1.3 with the 64-bit GEAR drivers and works
> fine, tried installing v7.5 and couldn't use the CD so went back to v7.3
>
>
> "Pete Shields" <PeteShields@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:518B61FE-D88B-4DD7-A27E-0295A2D5B5DA@microsoft.com...
>>
>>
>> "Carlos" wrote:
>>
>>> Also my cell phone works flawlessly with Windows Vista x64.
>>> It is an W510 Motorola.
>>> Motorola has excellent driver support for their phones on both x86 and
>>> x64
>>> systems here:
>>> http://developer.motorola.com/docstools/USB_Drivers/
>>> Carlos
>>>
>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:
>>>
>>> > Your only recourse with OEM is to hope the OEM supplier will do a
>>> > swap.
>>> > Microsoft's involvement ends with selling it to the OEM.
>>> >
>>> > FWIW, my iPod Nano works just fine. Well, OK, it doesn't burn CDs
>>> > because
>>> > their software doesn't support that in 64bit. But honestly I don't
>>> > care.
>>> > Everything else works. As for USB hubs, flash memory drives, etc? no
>>> > issue
>>> > at all.
>>> >
>>> > Also, let's be very clear. Mr. Gates is no longer actively managing
>>> > MS.
>>> > Hasn't for several years.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Charlie.
>>> > http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "Pete Shields" <PeteShields@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>> > message
>>> > news:4DAA72A2-4603-4EBD-B9B6-10244A4FF597@microsoft.com...
>>> > >I have kept the faith in Vista 64 since it's release but alas the
>>> > >majority
>>> > >of
>>> > > my hardware - Ipod Nano, Sony camera & camcorder, Archos, various
>>> > > phones,
>>> > > memory cards, memory sticks and USB hubs fail to be recognised. They
>>> > > all
>>> > > work
>>> > > flawlessly on the second PC running XP home edition.
>>> > > Manufacturers just don't support this operating system and are not
>>> > > at all
>>> > > interested in supporting it.
>>> > > It's a shame, as the rest of it seems stable on my AMD 3800 x 2
>>> > > system.
>>> > >
>>> > > My version of Vista is a 64 bit premium OEM version. Does anybody
>>> > > know
>>> > > whether Microsoft can offer me some sort of discount/trade in on the
>>> > > 32bit
>>> > > version?
>>> > > Don't want to have to shell out again for another version of windows
>>> > >
>>> > > Does Mr Gates have an obligation to give me a system that will
>>> > > communicate
>>> > > better with the outside world? Several items of hardware that I name
>>> > > above
>>> > > are current state of the art products.All I read from MS is that it
>>> > > is the
>>> > > hardware manufacturer's fault and you should contact them...
>>> > >
>>> > > Or is there something better coming along for Vista 64, which will
>>> > > correct
>>> > > the problem?
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>
 
Re: Vista 64 trade down

I have an iPod Nano (The previous generation) and it worked fine in
Vista X64. I could use iTunes, which I did to update the iPod
firmware a couple of times, but usually I used Winamp for moving songs
to it. Neither required anything special to work in Vista X64. The
iPod Touch however is known to not be friendly to 64-bit Windows.

Not sure about memory sticks, I only have a 1GB flash card from my
camera (Canon) which works perfectly in Vista X64. The camera also
worked fine for moving and manipulating photos over USB.

"Mr. Gates" is not personally responsible for providing drivers for
every single known device in the universe. The manufacturers have to
step up and deliver drivers as well. For Microsoft to develop drivers
for every single possible device ever conceived since the invention of
the computer would take thousands of programmers years and years.
Vista would also end up costing $46,000.
 
RE: Vista 64 trade down

I remember the same thing being said of windows 95 and windows xp. The
predecessors to these, aka windows 3.1 and windows 98 respectively, had a lot
of problems upgrading hardware to the former. In those days, there really
wasnt much of the internet going on, but was working in retail. I constantly
heard from customers back then that their hardware wouldnt work. They also
had to upgrade their hardware, surprisingly just like we are having to do
today.

So yah, more people are using the technology which is why you are hearing
more complaints, but I think that its a result of people having too high of
expectations, and right or wrong, microsoft hasnt done enough to explain the
issue that you might have to buy newer hardware to take advantage of the
software upgrades...

"Pete Shields" wrote:

> I have kept the faith in Vista 64 since it's release but alas the majority of
> my hardware - Ipod Nano, Sony camera & camcorder, Archos, various phones,
> memory cards, memory sticks and USB hubs fail to be recognised. They all work
> flawlessly on the second PC running XP home edition.
> Manufacturers just don't support this operating system and are not at all
> interested in supporting it.
> It's a shame, as the rest of it seems stable on my AMD 3800 x 2 system.
>
> My version of Vista is a 64 bit premium OEM version. Does anybody know
> whether Microsoft can offer me some sort of discount/trade in on the 32bit
> version?
> Don't want to have to shell out again for another version of windows
>
> Does Mr Gates have an obligation to give me a system that will communicate
> better with the outside world? Several items of hardware that I name above
> are current state of the art products.All I read from MS is that it is the
> hardware manufacturer's fault and you should contact them...
>
> Or is there something better coming along for Vista 64, which will correct
> the problem?
>
>
 
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