ntbackup woes

[Tim Judd]

I have 1 servers inhouse,that is using a LTO Ultrium 2 SCSI drive to do the
backups.

When previously using NTBACKUP.exe to do backups to the LTO automatically,
it was working.
Now, when the script is identical, it fails to find the backup. Error is:
"Cannot locate the specified media or backup device. This backup operation
will terminate."

However, running the same job interactively in ntbackup interface, it works
fine.

What might I be missing? I'm thinking it's a command line paramater, but it
looks all fine.

C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntbackup.exe backup "@C:\Documents and
Settings\ntbackup\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows
NT\NTBackup\data\FullBackup.bks" /v:yes /r:no /rs:no /hcn /m normal /j
"FullBackup" /l:s /p "LTO Ultrium"

The command line above was created by NTBACKUP's schedule jobs option. I
deleted the name and description, because ntbackup will fill in the current
time/date defaults every time it runs then.

Removable Storage has the tape drive, but in the list it appears as "Quantum
LTO 2 Tape Drive" and ntbackup lists it as "LTO Ultrium"

If I can provide more details, please let me know.

--Tim

 

[Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]]

Re: ntbackup woes

Tim Judd <tjudd01@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I have 1 servers inhouse,that is using a LTO Ultrium 2 SCSI drive to
> do the backups.
>
> When previously using NTBACKUP.exe to do backups to the LTO
> automatically, it was working.
> Now, when the script is identical, it fails to find the backup. Error is:
> "Cannot locate the specified media or backup device. This
> backup operation will terminate."
>
> However, running the same job interactively in ntbackup interface, it
> works fine.
>
> What might I be missing? I'm thinking it's a command line paramater,
> but it looks all fine.
>
> C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntbackup.exe backup "@C:\Documents and
> Settings\ntbackup\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows
> NT\NTBackup\data\FullBackup.bks" /v:yes /r:no /rs:no /hcn /m normal
> /j "FullBackup" /l:s /p "LTO Ultrium"
>
> The command line above was created by NTBACKUP's schedule jobs
> option. I deleted the name and description, because ntbackup will
> fill in the current time/date defaults every time it runs then.
>
> Removable Storage has the tape drive, but in the list it appears as
> "Quantum LTO 2 Tape Drive" and ntbackup lists it as "LTO Ultrium"
>
> If I can provide more details, please let me know.
>
> --Tim

I think you want to add /um
(which means it will use any tape it finds).

 

[Tim Judd]

Re: ntbackup woes

Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote:
> Tim Judd <tjudd01@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I have 1 servers inhouse,that is using a LTO Ultrium 2 SCSI drive to
>> do the backups.
>>
>> When previously using NTBACKUP.exe to do backups to the LTO
>> automatically, it was working.
>> Now, when the script is identical, it fails to find the backup. Error is:
>> "Cannot locate the specified media or backup device. This
>> backup operation will terminate."
>>
>> However, running the same job interactively in ntbackup interface, it
>> works fine.
>>
>> What might I be missing? I'm thinking it's a command line paramater,
>> but it looks all fine.
>>
>> C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntbackup.exe backup "@C:\Documents and
>> Settings\ntbackup\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows
>> NT\NTBackup\data\FullBackup.bks" /v:yes /r:no /rs:no /hcn /m normal
>> /j "FullBackup" /l:s /p "LTO Ultrium"
>>
>> The command line above was created by NTBACKUP's schedule jobs
>> option. I deleted the name and description, because ntbackup will
>> fill in the current time/date defaults every time it runs then.
>>
>> Removable Storage has the tape drive, but in the list it appears as
>> "Quantum LTO 2 Tape Drive" and ntbackup lists it as "LTO Ultrium"
>>
>> If I can provide more details, please let me know.
>>
>> --Tim
>
> I think you want to add /um
> (which means it will use any tape it finds).
>
>

I don't see that option available in any of the help files.

Is there an environmental problem when running jobs from the Scheduler?
Such as the Removable Storage service and or environment not being
populated so ntbackup fails to "find" the pool and aborts the job?

Any TCP/IP ports I need to watch for this? When AD was installed, the
"automatic" feature stopped working.

I'm really at wits end on how to solve this problem, and would recommend
any tips or help.

Thanks!

--Tim

 

[Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]]

Re: ntbackup woes

Tim Judd <tjudd01@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote:
>> Tim Judd <tjudd01@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> I have 1 servers inhouse,that is using a LTO Ultrium 2 SCSI drive to
>>> do the backups.
>>>
>>> When previously using NTBACKUP.exe to do backups to the LTO
>>> automatically, it was working.
>>> Now, when the script is identical, it fails to find the backup.
>>> Error is: "Cannot locate the specified media or backup device. This
>>> backup operation will terminate."
>>>
>>> However, running the same job interactively in ntbackup interface,
>>> it works fine.
>>>
>>> What might I be missing? I'm thinking it's a command line
>>> paramater, but it looks all fine.
>>>
>>> C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntbackup.exe backup "@C:\Documents and
>>> Settings\ntbackup\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows
>>> NT\NTBackup\data\FullBackup.bks" /v:yes /r:no /rs:no /hcn /m
>>> normal /j "FullBackup" /l:s /p "LTO Ultrium"
>>>
>>> The command line above was created by NTBACKUP's schedule jobs
>>> option. I deleted the name and description, because ntbackup will
>>> fill in the current time/date defaults every time it runs then.
>>>
>>> Removable Storage has the tape drive, but in the list it appears as
>>> "Quantum LTO 2 Tape Drive" and ntbackup lists it as "LTO Ultrium"

One is the library/drive, and one (in NTBackup) is the tapemedium. Yeah, I
know, it's confusing.

>>>
>>> If I can provide more details, please let me know.
>>>
>>> --Tim
>>
>> I think you want to add /um
>> (which means it will use any tape it finds).
>>
>>
>
> I don't see that option available in any of the help files.

NTBackup & RSM aren't exactly the most well documented features of Windows
(NT). However, if you google for

ntbackup /um

....you'll get a lot of hits.

You might check out the lovely and low-priced "BackupAssist" - it's a nice
wrapper for NTBackup and may help. I think they have a free eval.

>
> Is there an environmental problem when running jobs from the
> Scheduler? Such as the Removable Storage service and or environment
> not being populated so ntbackup fails to "find" the pool and aborts
> the job?

Dunno - I have a lengthy and verbose batch file I tend to use, instead of
scheduling ntbackup.exe directly.
>
> Any TCP/IP ports I need to watch for this? When AD was installed, the
> "automatic" feature stopped working.

This has nothing to do with networking, no.....
>
> I'm really at wits end on how to solve this problem, and would
> recommend any tips or help.

HTH.

>
> Thanks!
>
> --Tim

 

[dan]

Re: ntbackup woes


"Tim Judd" <tjudd01@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:urGxGzYQIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I have 1 servers inhouse,that is using a LTO Ultrium 2 SCSI drive to do the
>backups.
>
> When previously using NTBACKUP.exe to do backups to the LTO automatically,
> it was working.
> Now, when the script is identical, it fails to find the backup. Error is:
> "Cannot locate the specified media or backup device. This backup operation
> will terminate."
>
> However, running the same job interactively in ntbackup interface, it
> works fine.
>
> What might I be missing? I'm thinking it's a command line paramater, but
> it looks all fine.
>
> C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntbackup.exe backup "@C:\Documents and
> Settings\ntbackup\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows
> NT\NTBackup\data\FullBackup.bks" /v:yes /r:no /rs:no /hcn /m normal /j
> "FullBackup" /l:s /p "LTO Ultrium"
>
> The command line above was created by NTBACKUP's schedule jobs option. I
> deleted the name and description, because ntbackup will fill in the
> current time/date defaults every time it runs then.
>
> Removable Storage has the tape drive, but in the list it appears as
> "Quantum LTO 2 Tape Drive" and ntbackup lists it as "LTO Ultrium"
>
> If I can provide more details, please let me know.
>
> --Tim
>
>
>
Tim, take a look at Microsoft article #239892 to see if it will help. As
the article reveals, Microsoft's tape management process is pretty
convoluted in my view.

 

[Tim Judd]

Re: ntbackup woes

Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote:
> Tim Judd <tjudd01@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote:
>>> Tim Judd <tjudd01@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I have 1 servers inhouse,that is using a LTO Ultrium 2 SCSI drive to
>>>> do the backups.
>>>>
>>>> When previously using NTBACKUP.exe to do backups to the LTO
>>>> automatically, it was working.
>>>> Now, when the script is identical, it fails to find the backup.
>>>> Error is: "Cannot locate the specified media or backup device. This
>>>> backup operation will terminate."
>>>>
>>>> However, running the same job interactively in ntbackup interface,
>>>> it works fine.
>>>>
>>>> What might I be missing? I'm thinking it's a command line
>>>> paramater, but it looks all fine.
>>>>
>>>> C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntbackup.exe backup "@C:\Documents and
>>>> Settings\ntbackup\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows
>>>> NT\NTBackup\data\FullBackup.bks" /v:yes /r:no /rs:no /hcn /m
>>>> normal /j "FullBackup" /l:s /p "LTO Ultrium"
>>>>
>>>> The command line above was created by NTBACKUP's schedule jobs
>>>> option. I deleted the name and description, because ntbackup will
>>>> fill in the current time/date defaults every time it runs then.
>>>>
>>>> Removable Storage has the tape drive, but in the list it appears as
>>>> "Quantum LTO 2 Tape Drive" and ntbackup lists it as "LTO Ultrium"
>
> One is the library/drive, and one (in NTBackup) is the tapemedium. Yeah, I
> know, it's confusing.
>
>>>> If I can provide more details, please let me know.
>>>>
>>>> --Tim
>>> I think you want to add /um
>>> (which means it will use any tape it finds).
>>>
>>>
>> I don't see that option available in any of the help files.
>
> NTBackup & RSM aren't exactly the most well documented features of Windows
> (NT). However, if you google for
>
> ntbackup /um
>
> ...you'll get a lot of hits.

The only site I hit off of google says /um is only available in the
server 2000 series.

I'm running 2003 Enterprise. Any more suggestions?

--Tim

>
> You might check out the lovely and low-priced "BackupAssist" - it's a nice
> wrapper for NTBackup and may help. I think they have a free eval.
>
>> Is there an environmental problem when running jobs from the
>> Scheduler? Such as the Removable Storage service and or environment
>> not being populated so ntbackup fails to "find" the pool and aborts
>> the job?
>
> Dunno - I have a lengthy and verbose batch file I tend to use, instead of
> scheduling ntbackup.exe directly.
>> Any TCP/IP ports I need to watch for this? When AD was installed, the
>> "automatic" feature stopped working.
>
> This has nothing to do with networking, no.....
>> I'm really at wits end on how to solve this problem, and would
>> recommend any tips or help.
>
> HTH.
>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --Tim
>
>
>

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Re: ntbackup woes


"Tim Judd" <tjudd01@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eTsWKRcQIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote:
>> Tim Judd <tjudd01@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote:
>>>> Tim Judd <tjudd01@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I have 1 servers inhouse,that is using a LTO Ultrium 2 SCSI drive to
>>>>> do the backups.
>>>>>
>>>>> When previously using NTBACKUP.exe to do backups to the LTO
>>>>> automatically, it was working.
>>>>> Now, when the script is identical, it fails to find the backup.
>>>>> Error is: "Cannot locate the specified media or backup device. This
>>>>> backup operation will terminate."
>>>>>
>>>>> However, running the same job interactively in ntbackup interface,
>>>>> it works fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> What might I be missing? I'm thinking it's a command line
>>>>> paramater, but it looks all fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntbackup.exe backup "@C:\Documents and
>>>>> Settings\ntbackup\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows
>>>>> NT\NTBackup\data\FullBackup.bks" /v:yes /r:no /rs:no /hcn /m
>>>>> normal /j "FullBackup" /l:s /p "LTO Ultrium"
>>>>>
>>>>> The command line above was created by NTBACKUP's schedule jobs
>>>>> option. I deleted the name and description, because ntbackup will
>>>>> fill in the current time/date defaults every time it runs then.
>>>>>
>>>>> Removable Storage has the tape drive, but in the list it appears as
>>>>> "Quantum LTO 2 Tape Drive" and ntbackup lists it as "LTO Ultrium"
>>
>> One is the library/drive, and one (in NTBackup) is the tapemedium. Yeah,
>> I know, it's confusing.
>>
>>>>> If I can provide more details, please let me know.
>>>>>
>>>>> --Tim
>>>> I think you want to add /um
>>>> (which means it will use any tape it finds).
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I don't see that option available in any of the help files.
>>
>> NTBackup & RSM aren't exactly the most well documented features of
>> Windows (NT). However, if you google for
>>
>> ntbackup /um
>>
>> ...you'll get a lot of hits.
>
> The only site I hit off of google says /um is only available in the server
> 2000 series.
>
> I'm running 2003 Enterprise. Any more suggestions?
>
> --Tim
>
>>
>> You might check out the lovely and low-priced "BackupAssist" - it's a
>> nice wrapper for NTBackup and may help. I think they have a free eval.
>>
>>> Is there an environmental problem when running jobs from the
>>> Scheduler? Such as the Removable Storage service and or environment
>>> not being populated so ntbackup fails to "find" the pool and aborts
>>> the job?
>>
>> Dunno - I have a lengthy and verbose batch file I tend to use, instead of
>> scheduling ntbackup.exe directly.
>>> Any TCP/IP ports I need to watch for this? When AD was installed, the
>>> "automatic" feature stopped working.
>>
>> This has nothing to do with networking, no.....
>>> I'm really at wits end on how to solve this problem, and would
>>> recommend any tips or help.
>>
>> HTH.
>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> --Tim

For reasons unknown, Microsoft omitted the /um switch in the
Server 2003 documentation. However, it is still recognised.