RAM problems

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To increase performance in pc i decided to upgrade from 2GB to 4GB but after
start the computer and logging in i was having some performance issues which
i had not had before and my proccessor (Q6600) was at 35% constantly. i
updated my subscore and found that i had gone from 4.4 with 2GB to 1.6 with
4GB also games that i could play before now have appaling frame rates.
I am using 64-bit visita
the RAM is matching 4x1GB 800mhz
oh, and i have installed the visit 64-bit patch that is supposed to deal
with it
 
Re: RAM problems

As a first step I would try adding your new RAM one stick at a time. This
would tell you if the problem is related to one of your new sticks.


"james" <james@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F70FE8E1-99D6-448B-B892-575B3ED6FE2F@microsoft.com...
> To increase performance in pc i decided to upgrade from 2GB to 4GB but
> after
> start the computer and logging in i was having some performance issues
> which
> i had not had before and my proccessor (Q6600) was at 35% constantly. i
> updated my subscore and found that i had gone from 4.4 with 2GB to 1.6
> with
> 4GB also games that i could play before now have appaling frame rates.
> I am using 64-bit visita
> the RAM is matching 4x1GB 800mhz
> oh, and i have installed the visit 64-bit patch that is supposed to deal
> with it
 
Re: RAM problems

Is your BIOS up to date?

"james" <james@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F70FE8E1-99D6-448B-B892-575B3ED6FE2F@microsoft.com...
> To increase performance in pc i decided to upgrade from 2GB to 4GB but
> after
> start the computer and logging in i was having some performance issues
> which
> i had not had before and my proccessor (Q6600) was at 35% constantly. i
> updated my subscore and found that i had gone from 4.4 with 2GB to 1.6
> with
> 4GB also games that i could play before now have appaling frame rates.
> I am using 64-bit visita
> the RAM is matching 4x1GB 800mhz
> oh, and i have installed the visit 64-bit patch that is supposed to deal
> with it
 
Re: RAM problems

Colin's suggestion about the BIOS is a good one - there can be issues with
some mobo BIOS versions and 4GB or more.

Next, try pulling your original 2GB and putting in only the second 2GB. See
if the performance issues are related to that particular RAM, or the
quantity.

A good RAM tester would be a worthwhile check as well - I know I've used
memtest86 in the past with good success.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"james" <james@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F70FE8E1-99D6-448B-B892-575B3ED6FE2F@microsoft.com...
> To increase performance in pc i decided to upgrade from 2GB to 4GB but
> after
> start the computer and logging in i was having some performance issues
> which
> i had not had before and my proccessor (Q6600) was at 35% constantly. i
> updated my subscore and found that i had gone from 4.4 with 2GB to 1.6
> with
> 4GB also games that i could play before now have appaling frame rates.
> I am using 64-bit visita
> the RAM is matching 4x1GB 800mhz
> oh, and i have installed the visit 64-bit patch that is supposed to deal
> with it
 
Re: RAM problems

Charlie is there a memtest for Vista 64?

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
news:79B9F00A-871B-4957-B28F-C78E73015079@microsoft.com...
> Colin's suggestion about the BIOS is a good one - there can be issues with
> some mobo BIOS versions and 4GB or more.
>
> Next, try pulling your original 2GB and putting in only the second 2GB.
> See if the performance issues are related to that particular RAM, or the
> quantity.
>
> A good RAM tester would be a worthwhile check as well - I know I've used
> memtest86 in the past with good success.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "james" <james@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F70FE8E1-99D6-448B-B892-575B3ED6FE2F@microsoft.com...
>> To increase performance in pc i decided to upgrade from 2GB to 4GB but
>> after
>> start the computer and logging in i was having some performance issues
>> which
>> i had not had before and my proccessor (Q6600) was at 35% constantly. i
>> updated my subscore and found that i had gone from 4.4 with 2GB to 1.6
>> with
>> 4GB also games that i could play before now have appaling frame rates.
>> I am using 64-bit visita
>> the RAM is matching 4x1GB 800mhz
>> oh, and i have installed the visit 64-bit patch that is supposed to deal
>> with it

>
 
Re: RAM problems

runs below the OS level, so it doesn't matter. I've forgotten whether it's a
boot floppy or boot CD, but IAC, it doesn't have anything to do with Vista
at that point.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Kue2" <Kue2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Charlie is there a memtest for Vista 64?
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> news:79B9F00A-871B-4957-B28F-C78E73015079@microsoft.com...
>> Colin's suggestion about the BIOS is a good one - there can be issues
>> with some mobo BIOS versions and 4GB or more.
>>
>> Next, try pulling your original 2GB and putting in only the second 2GB.
>> See if the performance issues are related to that particular RAM, or the
>> quantity.
>>
>> A good RAM tester would be a worthwhile check as well - I know I've used
>> memtest86 in the past with good success.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>
>>
>> "james" <james@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F70FE8E1-99D6-448B-B892-575B3ED6FE2F@microsoft.com...
>>> To increase performance in pc i decided to upgrade from 2GB to 4GB but
>>> after
>>> start the computer and logging in i was having some performance issues
>>> which
>>> i had not had before and my proccessor (Q6600) was at 35% constantly. i
>>> updated my subscore and found that i had gone from 4.4 with 2GB to 1.6
>>> with
>>> 4GB also games that i could play before now have appaling frame rates.
>>> I am using 64-bit visita
>>> the RAM is matching 4x1GB 800mhz
>>> oh, and i have installed the visit 64-bit patch that is supposed to deal
>>> with it

>>

>
 
Re: RAM problems

Both are available on the net. .iso or bootable floppy.

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
news:345135CA-9DEF-44F2-80B0-CACAB3B1B315@microsoft.com...
> runs below the OS level, so it doesn't matter. I've forgotten whether it's
> a boot floppy or boot CD, but IAC, it doesn't have anything to do with
> Vista at that point.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "Kue2" <Kue2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uZiXXayQIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Charlie is there a memtest for Vista 64?
>>
>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
>> news:79B9F00A-871B-4957-B28F-C78E73015079@microsoft.com...
>>> Colin's suggestion about the BIOS is a good one - there can be issues
>>> with some mobo BIOS versions and 4GB or more.
>>>
>>> Next, try pulling your original 2GB and putting in only the second 2GB.
>>> See if the performance issues are related to that particular RAM, or the
>>> quantity.
>>>
>>> A good RAM tester would be a worthwhile check as well - I know I've used
>>> memtest86 in the past with good success.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Charlie.
>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>>
>>>
>>> "james" <james@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:F70FE8E1-99D6-448B-B892-575B3ED6FE2F@microsoft.com...
>>>> To increase performance in pc i decided to upgrade from 2GB to 4GB but
>>>> after
>>>> start the computer and logging in i was having some performance issues
>>>> which
>>>> i had not had before and my proccessor (Q6600) was at 35% constantly. i
>>>> updated my subscore and found that i had gone from 4.4 with 2GB to 1.6
>>>> with
>>>> 4GB also games that i could play before now have appaling frame rates.
>>>> I am using 64-bit visita
>>>> the RAM is matching 4x1GB 800mhz
>>>> oh, and i have installed the visit 64-bit patch that is supposed to
>>>> deal
>>>> with it
>>>

>>

>
 
Re: RAM problems

Thanks, John.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
news:%23$4tyQ3QIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Both are available on the net. .iso or bootable floppy.
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> news:345135CA-9DEF-44F2-80B0-CACAB3B1B315@microsoft.com...
>> runs below the OS level, so it doesn't matter. I've forgotten whether
>> it's a boot floppy or boot CD, but IAC, it doesn't have anything to do
>> with Vista at that point.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>
>>
>> "Kue2" <Kue2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:uZiXXayQIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Charlie is there a memtest for Vista 64?
>>>
>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>>> message news:79B9F00A-871B-4957-B28F-C78E73015079@microsoft.com...
>>>> Colin's suggestion about the BIOS is a good one - there can be issues
>>>> with some mobo BIOS versions and 4GB or more.
>>>>
>>>> Next, try pulling your original 2GB and putting in only the second 2GB.
>>>> See if the performance issues are related to that particular RAM, or
>>>> the quantity.
>>>>
>>>> A good RAM tester would be a worthwhile check as well - I know I've
>>>> used memtest86 in the past with good success.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Charlie.
>>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "james" <james@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:F70FE8E1-99D6-448B-B892-575B3ED6FE2F@microsoft.com...
>>>>> To increase performance in pc i decided to upgrade from 2GB to 4GB but
>>>>> after
>>>>> start the computer and logging in i was having some performance issues
>>>>> which
>>>>> i had not had before and my proccessor (Q6600) was at 35% constantly.
>>>>> i
>>>>> updated my subscore and found that i had gone from 4.4 with 2GB to 1.6
>>>>> with
>>>>> 4GB also games that i could play before now have appaling frame rates.
>>>>> I am using 64-bit visita
>>>>> the RAM is matching 4x1GB 800mhz
>>>>> oh, and i have installed the visit 64-bit patch that is supposed to
>>>>> deal
>>>>> with it
>>>>
>>>

>>

>
 
RE: RAM problems

Hello "james":
I have an Intel Q6600 cpu on an Intel DG965WH board and the exact same
thing happened to me. I tried the patch also with no help. I replaced 2 1GB
RAM modules with 512MB for a total of 3 GB RAM and the pc now works
beautifully. I'm sure if I spent hours and hours seeking a solution to the
problem of 4GB on Vista Ultimate, I might find the perfect solution but I'm
happy with 3GB's performance. I don't think your problem is with the memory
either. More likely the O.S./motherboard/RAM combination not working
together as they should. I have yet to see a store ad for a Quadcore pc with
4 GBs RAM.....they always advertise 3 GBs. Could be to hold down the price
or could be the same problem we have seen with 4GBs!

xiowan..........in tucson

"james" wrote:

> To increase performance in pc i decided to upgrade from 2GB to 4GB but after
> start the computer and logging in i was having some performance issues which
> i had not had before and my proccessor (Q6600) was at 35% constantly. i
> updated my subscore and found that i had gone from 4.4 with 2GB to 1.6 with
> 4GB also games that i could play before now have appaling frame rates.
> I am using 64-bit visita
> the RAM is matching 4x1GB 800mhz
> oh, and i have installed the visit 64-bit patch that is supposed to deal
> with it
 
Re: RAM problems

You are correct. It is the combination. pc6400 ram seems to be the type
associated with this. Try pc5300 ram if you can and see. The issue appears
to arise with a stick of pc6400 ram in the fourth dimm slot. It is not the
amount of ram (it happens with 2GB sticks as well). If you want 4GB of
pc6400, use a pair of 2GB sticks and you will be fine.

"xiowan" <xiowan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E226F2BF-7A55-4610-9B4C-A9EF9FBBB024@microsoft.com...
> Hello "james":
> I have an Intel Q6600 cpu on an Intel DG965WH board and the exact same
> thing happened to me. I tried the patch also with no help. I replaced 2
> 1GB
> RAM modules with 512MB for a total of 3 GB RAM and the pc now works
> beautifully. I'm sure if I spent hours and hours seeking a solution to
> the
> problem of 4GB on Vista Ultimate, I might find the perfect solution but
> I'm
> happy with 3GB's performance. I don't think your problem is with the
> memory
> either. More likely the O.S./motherboard/RAM combination not working
> together as they should. I have yet to see a store ad for a Quadcore pc
> with
> 4 GBs RAM.....they always advertise 3 GBs. Could be to hold down the
> price
> or could be the same problem we have seen with 4GBs!
>
> xiowan..........in tucson
>
> "james" wrote:
>
>> To increase performance in pc i decided to upgrade from 2GB to 4GB but
>> after
>> start the computer and logging in i was having some performance issues
>> which
>> i had not had before and my proccessor (Q6600) was at 35% constantly. i
>> updated my subscore and found that i had gone from 4.4 with 2GB to 1.6
>> with
>> 4GB also games that i could play before now have appaling frame rates.
>> I am using 64-bit visita
>> the RAM is matching 4x1GB 800mhz
>> oh, and i have installed the visit 64-bit patch that is supposed to deal
>> with it
 
Re: RAM problems

Hello "Colin":
Thanks for the info! Wish I had read of that issue sooner. I just
purchased 4 512MB sticks of DDR2 800 Mhz RAM to get down to 3 GB on my 2
Vista pcs! I have 4 leftover 1GB sticks of DDR2 667Mhz I used before
switching to Vista but don't think I will go to the expense of buying 2 2GB
sticks of DDR2 800 Mhz to see if they will work with my board and Vista.
Both Vista PCs are working beautifully with just 3 GB of 800 Mhz although the
Task Mgr is showing Vista as using close to all of the memory but it would
probably show the same result if I doubled the memory LOL! I wish Intel had
warned of this issue before I purchased 3 motherboards they said supported 4
GBs of DDR2 800 Mhz RAM. I was very careful to research everything about the
board, including any possible memory issues and am disappointed that I won't
be able to use the boards as planned.

xiowan........in tucson



"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> You are correct. It is the combination. pc6400 ram seems to be the type
> associated with this. Try pc5300 ram if you can and see. The issue appears
> to arise with a stick of pc6400 ram in the fourth dimm slot. It is not the
> amount of ram (it happens with 2GB sticks as well). If you want 4GB of
> pc6400, use a pair of 2GB sticks and you will be fine.
>
> "xiowan" <xiowan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:E226F2BF-7A55-4610-9B4C-A9EF9FBBB024@microsoft.com...
> > Hello "james":
> > I have an Intel Q6600 cpu on an Intel DG965WH board and the exact same
> > thing happened to me. I tried the patch also with no help. I replaced 2
> > 1GB
> > RAM modules with 512MB for a total of 3 GB RAM and the pc now works
> > beautifully. I'm sure if I spent hours and hours seeking a solution to
> > the
> > problem of 4GB on Vista Ultimate, I might find the perfect solution but
> > I'm
> > happy with 3GB's performance. I don't think your problem is with the
> > memory
> > either. More likely the O.S./motherboard/RAM combination not working
> > together as they should. I have yet to see a store ad for a Quadcore pc
> > with
> > 4 GBs RAM.....they always advertise 3 GBs. Could be to hold down the
> > price
> > or could be the same problem we have seen with 4GBs!
> >
> > xiowan..........in tucson
> >
> > "james" wrote:
> >
> >> To increase performance in pc i decided to upgrade from 2GB to 4GB but
> >> after
> >> start the computer and logging in i was having some performance issues
> >> which
> >> i had not had before and my proccessor (Q6600) was at 35% constantly. i
> >> updated my subscore and found that i had gone from 4.4 with 2GB to 1.6
> >> with
> >> 4GB also games that i could play before now have appaling frame rates.
> >> I am using 64-bit visita
> >> the RAM is matching 4x1GB 800mhz
> >> oh, and i have installed the visit 64-bit patch that is supposed to deal
> >> with it

>
 
Re: RAM problems

I am using 3x2GB pc6400 in one box and seeing 6143mb of ram. The fourth
stick prevents Windows from loading. The performance difference between 3GB
and 6GB on this box is dramatic in terms of hard drive activity. That 4th
GB in your system would make a difference, believe me.

"xiowan" <xiowan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:20F834AC-5AC0-4409-A95D-703853CEFCC3@microsoft.com...
> Hello "Colin":
> Thanks for the info! Wish I had read of that issue sooner. I just
> purchased 4 512MB sticks of DDR2 800 Mhz RAM to get down to 3 GB on my 2
> Vista pcs! I have 4 leftover 1GB sticks of DDR2 667Mhz I used before
> switching to Vista but don't think I will go to the expense of buying 2
> 2GB
> sticks of DDR2 800 Mhz to see if they will work with my board and Vista.
> Both Vista PCs are working beautifully with just 3 GB of 800 Mhz although
> the
> Task Mgr is showing Vista as using close to all of the memory but it would
> probably show the same result if I doubled the memory LOL! I wish Intel
> had
> warned of this issue before I purchased 3 motherboards they said supported
> 4
> GBs of DDR2 800 Mhz RAM. I was very careful to research everything about
> the
> board, including any possible memory issues and am disappointed that I
> won't
> be able to use the boards as planned.
>
> xiowan........in tucson
>
>
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
>> You are correct. It is the combination. pc6400 ram seems to be the type
>> associated with this. Try pc5300 ram if you can and see. The issue
>> appears
>> to arise with a stick of pc6400 ram in the fourth dimm slot. It is not
>> the
>> amount of ram (it happens with 2GB sticks as well). If you want 4GB of
>> pc6400, use a pair of 2GB sticks and you will be fine.
>>
>> "xiowan" <xiowan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:E226F2BF-7A55-4610-9B4C-A9EF9FBBB024@microsoft.com...
>> > Hello "james":
>> > I have an Intel Q6600 cpu on an Intel DG965WH board and the exact
>> > same
>> > thing happened to me. I tried the patch also with no help. I replaced
>> > 2
>> > 1GB
>> > RAM modules with 512MB for a total of 3 GB RAM and the pc now works
>> > beautifully. I'm sure if I spent hours and hours seeking a solution to
>> > the
>> > problem of 4GB on Vista Ultimate, I might find the perfect solution but
>> > I'm
>> > happy with 3GB's performance. I don't think your problem is with the
>> > memory
>> > either. More likely the O.S./motherboard/RAM combination not working
>> > together as they should. I have yet to see a store ad for a Quadcore
>> > pc
>> > with
>> > 4 GBs RAM.....they always advertise 3 GBs. Could be to hold down the
>> > price
>> > or could be the same problem we have seen with 4GBs!
>> >
>> > xiowan..........in tucson
>> >
>> > "james" wrote:
>> >
>> >> To increase performance in pc i decided to upgrade from 2GB to 4GB but
>> >> after
>> >> start the computer and logging in i was having some performance issues
>> >> which
>> >> i had not had before and my proccessor (Q6600) was at 35% constantly.
>> >> i
>> >> updated my subscore and found that i had gone from 4.4 with 2GB to 1.6
>> >> with
>> >> 4GB also games that i could play before now have appaling frame rates.
>> >> I am using 64-bit visita
>> >> the RAM is matching 4x1GB 800mhz
>> >> oh, and i have installed the visit 64-bit patch that is supposed to
>> >> deal
>> >> with it

>>
 
Re: RAM problems

Hello "Colin":
Question about your statement: "I am using 3x2GB pc6400".....can your pc
run in dual channel mode when you have unequal amounts of RAM in the two
channels? My Intel manual says if I run 3 sticks that the 3rd stick must be
equal to the the total of the two sticks in the first channel to enable dual
channel operation. For example 2 1GB sticks in the first 2 slots and 1 2GB
stick in the 3rd (or 4th) slot would result in dual channel operation whereas
using a 1GB in the 3rd slot with two 1GB in the first 2 slots would result in
single channel operation. Does this prerequisite vary from board to board or
are you operating in single channel mode?

xiowan.........in tucson

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> I am using 3x2GB pc6400 in one box and seeing 6143mb of ram. The fourth
> stick prevents Windows from loading. The performance difference between 3GB
> and 6GB on this box is dramatic in terms of hard drive activity. That 4th
> GB in your system would make a difference, believe me.
>
> "xiowan" <xiowan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:20F834AC-5AC0-4409-A95D-703853CEFCC3@microsoft.com...
> > Hello "Colin":
> > Thanks for the info! Wish I had read of that issue sooner. I just
> > purchased 4 512MB sticks of DDR2 800 Mhz RAM to get down to 3 GB on my 2
> > Vista pcs! I have 4 leftover 1GB sticks of DDR2 667Mhz I used before
> > switching to Vista but don't think I will go to the expense of buying 2
> > 2GB
> > sticks of DDR2 800 Mhz to see if they will work with my board and Vista.
> > Both Vista PCs are working beautifully with just 3 GB of 800 Mhz although
> > the
> > Task Mgr is showing Vista as using close to all of the memory but it would
> > probably show the same result if I doubled the memory LOL! I wish Intel
> > had
> > warned of this issue before I purchased 3 motherboards they said supported
> > 4
> > GBs of DDR2 800 Mhz RAM. I was very careful to research everything about
> > the
> > board, including any possible memory issues and am disappointed that I
> > won't
> > be able to use the boards as planned.
> >
> > xiowan........in tucson
> >
> >
> >
> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
> >
> >> You are correct. It is the combination. pc6400 ram seems to be the type
> >> associated with this. Try pc5300 ram if you can and see. The issue
> >> appears
> >> to arise with a stick of pc6400 ram in the fourth dimm slot. It is not
> >> the
> >> amount of ram (it happens with 2GB sticks as well). If you want 4GB of
> >> pc6400, use a pair of 2GB sticks and you will be fine.
> >>
> >> "xiowan" <xiowan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:E226F2BF-7A55-4610-9B4C-A9EF9FBBB024@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hello "james":
> >> > I have an Intel Q6600 cpu on an Intel DG965WH board and the exact
> >> > same
> >> > thing happened to me. I tried the patch also with no help. I replaced
> >> > 2
> >> > 1GB
> >> > RAM modules with 512MB for a total of 3 GB RAM and the pc now works
> >> > beautifully. I'm sure if I spent hours and hours seeking a solution to
> >> > the
> >> > problem of 4GB on Vista Ultimate, I might find the perfect solution but
> >> > I'm
> >> > happy with 3GB's performance. I don't think your problem is with the
> >> > memory
> >> > either. More likely the O.S./motherboard/RAM combination not working
> >> > together as they should. I have yet to see a store ad for a Quadcore
> >> > pc
> >> > with
> >> > 4 GBs RAM.....they always advertise 3 GBs. Could be to hold down the
> >> > price
> >> > or could be the same problem we have seen with 4GBs!
> >> >
> >> > xiowan..........in tucson
> >> >
> >> > "james" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> To increase performance in pc i decided to upgrade from 2GB to 4GB but
> >> >> after
> >> >> start the computer and logging in i was having some performance issues
> >> >> which
> >> >> i had not had before and my proccessor (Q6600) was at 35% constantly.
> >> >> i
> >> >> updated my subscore and found that i had gone from 4.4 with 2GB to 1.6
> >> >> with
> >> >> 4GB also games that i could play before now have appaling frame rates.
> >> >> I am using 64-bit visita
> >> >> the RAM is matching 4x1GB 800mhz
> >> >> oh, and i have installed the visit 64-bit patch that is supposed to
> >> >> deal
> >> >> with it
> >>

>
 
Re: RAM problems

No, I cannot run in dual channel this way. That doesn't bother me since
everything is so fast on this box as it is.

"xiowan" <xiowan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3F7E69DC-CE0D-40A4-B22F-C1B640A8B9E6@microsoft.com...
> Hello "Colin":
> Question about your statement: "I am using 3x2GB pc6400".....can your
> pc
> run in dual channel mode when you have unequal amounts of RAM in the two
> channels? My Intel manual says if I run 3 sticks that the 3rd stick must
> be
> equal to the the total of the two sticks in the first channel to enable
> dual
> channel operation. For example 2 1GB sticks in the first 2 slots and 1
> 2GB
> stick in the 3rd (or 4th) slot would result in dual channel operation
> whereas
> using a 1GB in the 3rd slot with two 1GB in the first 2 slots would result
> in
> single channel operation. Does this prerequisite vary from board to board
> or
> are you operating in single channel mode?
>
> xiowan.........in tucson
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
>> I am using 3x2GB pc6400 in one box and seeing 6143mb of ram. The fourth
>> stick prevents Windows from loading. The performance difference between
>> 3GB
>> and 6GB on this box is dramatic in terms of hard drive activity. That
>> 4th
>> GB in your system would make a difference, believe me.
>>
>> "xiowan" <xiowan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:20F834AC-5AC0-4409-A95D-703853CEFCC3@microsoft.com...
>> > Hello "Colin":
>> > Thanks for the info! Wish I had read of that issue sooner. I just
>> > purchased 4 512MB sticks of DDR2 800 Mhz RAM to get down to 3 GB on my
>> > 2
>> > Vista pcs! I have 4 leftover 1GB sticks of DDR2 667Mhz I used before
>> > switching to Vista but don't think I will go to the expense of buying 2
>> > 2GB
>> > sticks of DDR2 800 Mhz to see if they will work with my board and
>> > Vista.
>> > Both Vista PCs are working beautifully with just 3 GB of 800 Mhz
>> > although
>> > the
>> > Task Mgr is showing Vista as using close to all of the memory but it
>> > would
>> > probably show the same result if I doubled the memory LOL! I wish
>> > Intel
>> > had
>> > warned of this issue before I purchased 3 motherboards they said
>> > supported
>> > 4
>> > GBs of DDR2 800 Mhz RAM. I was very careful to research everything
>> > about
>> > the
>> > board, including any possible memory issues and am disappointed that I
>> > won't
>> > be able to use the boards as planned.
>> >
>> > xiowan........in tucson
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>> >
>> >> You are correct. It is the combination. pc6400 ram seems to be the
>> >> type
>> >> associated with this. Try pc5300 ram if you can and see. The issue
>> >> appears
>> >> to arise with a stick of pc6400 ram in the fourth dimm slot. It is
>> >> not
>> >> the
>> >> amount of ram (it happens with 2GB sticks as well). If you want 4GB
>> >> of
>> >> pc6400, use a pair of 2GB sticks and you will be fine.
>> >>
>> >> "xiowan" <xiowan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:E226F2BF-7A55-4610-9B4C-A9EF9FBBB024@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Hello "james":
>> >> > I have an Intel Q6600 cpu on an Intel DG965WH board and the exact
>> >> > same
>> >> > thing happened to me. I tried the patch also with no help. I
>> >> > replaced
>> >> > 2
>> >> > 1GB
>> >> > RAM modules with 512MB for a total of 3 GB RAM and the pc now works
>> >> > beautifully. I'm sure if I spent hours and hours seeking a solution
>> >> > to
>> >> > the
>> >> > problem of 4GB on Vista Ultimate, I might find the perfect solution
>> >> > but
>> >> > I'm
>> >> > happy with 3GB's performance. I don't think your problem is with
>> >> > the
>> >> > memory
>> >> > either. More likely the O.S./motherboard/RAM combination not
>> >> > working
>> >> > together as they should. I have yet to see a store ad for a
>> >> > Quadcore
>> >> > pc
>> >> > with
>> >> > 4 GBs RAM.....they always advertise 3 GBs. Could be to hold down
>> >> > the
>> >> > price
>> >> > or could be the same problem we have seen with 4GBs!
>> >> >
>> >> > xiowan..........in tucson
>> >> >
>> >> > "james" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> To increase performance in pc i decided to upgrade from 2GB to 4GB
>> >> >> but
>> >> >> after
>> >> >> start the computer and logging in i was having some performance
>> >> >> issues
>> >> >> which
>> >> >> i had not had before and my proccessor (Q6600) was at 35%
>> >> >> constantly.
>> >> >> i
>> >> >> updated my subscore and found that i had gone from 4.4 with 2GB to
>> >> >> 1.6
>> >> >> with
>> >> >> 4GB also games that i could play before now have appaling frame
>> >> >> rates.
>> >> >> I am using 64-bit visita
>> >> >> the RAM is matching 4x1GB 800mhz
>> >> >> oh, and i have installed the visit 64-bit patch that is supposed to
>> >> >> deal
>> >> >> with it
>> >>

>>
 
Re: RAM problems

Hello"Colin":
Whew! I was beginning to think that my board couldn't do stuff your's
could!

xiowan........in tucson

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> No, I cannot run in dual channel this way. That doesn't bother me since
> everything is so fast on this box as it is.
>
> "xiowan" <xiowan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3F7E69DC-CE0D-40A4-B22F-C1B640A8B9E6@microsoft.com...
> > Hello "Colin":
> > Question about your statement: "I am using 3x2GB pc6400".....can your
> > pc
> > run in dual channel mode when you have unequal amounts of RAM in the two
> > channels? My Intel manual says if I run 3 sticks that the 3rd stick must
> > be
> > equal to the the total of the two sticks in the first channel to enable
> > dual
> > channel operation. For example 2 1GB sticks in the first 2 slots and 1
> > 2GB
> > stick in the 3rd (or 4th) slot would result in dual channel operation
> > whereas
> > using a 1GB in the 3rd slot with two 1GB in the first 2 slots would result
> > in
> > single channel operation. Does this prerequisite vary from board to board
> > or
> > are you operating in single channel mode?
> >
> > xiowan.........in tucson
> >
> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
> >
> >> I am using 3x2GB pc6400 in one box and seeing 6143mb of ram. The fourth
> >> stick prevents Windows from loading. The performance difference between
> >> 3GB
> >> and 6GB on this box is dramatic in terms of hard drive activity. That
> >> 4th
> >> GB in your system would make a difference, believe me.
> >>
> >> "xiowan" <xiowan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:20F834AC-5AC0-4409-A95D-703853CEFCC3@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hello "Colin":
> >> > Thanks for the info! Wish I had read of that issue sooner. I just
> >> > purchased 4 512MB sticks of DDR2 800 Mhz RAM to get down to 3 GB on my
> >> > 2
> >> > Vista pcs! I have 4 leftover 1GB sticks of DDR2 667Mhz I used before
> >> > switching to Vista but don't think I will go to the expense of buying 2
> >> > 2GB
> >> > sticks of DDR2 800 Mhz to see if they will work with my board and
> >> > Vista.
> >> > Both Vista PCs are working beautifully with just 3 GB of 800 Mhz
> >> > although
> >> > the
> >> > Task Mgr is showing Vista as using close to all of the memory but it
> >> > would
> >> > probably show the same result if I doubled the memory LOL! I wish
> >> > Intel
> >> > had
> >> > warned of this issue before I purchased 3 motherboards they said
> >> > supported
> >> > 4
> >> > GBs of DDR2 800 Mhz RAM. I was very careful to research everything
> >> > about
> >> > the
> >> > board, including any possible memory issues and am disappointed that I
> >> > won't
> >> > be able to use the boards as planned.
> >> >
> >> > xiowan........in tucson
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> You are correct. It is the combination. pc6400 ram seems to be the
> >> >> type
> >> >> associated with this. Try pc5300 ram if you can and see. The issue
> >> >> appears
> >> >> to arise with a stick of pc6400 ram in the fourth dimm slot. It is
> >> >> not
> >> >> the
> >> >> amount of ram (it happens with 2GB sticks as well). If you want 4GB
> >> >> of
> >> >> pc6400, use a pair of 2GB sticks and you will be fine.
> >> >>
> >> >> "xiowan" <xiowan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:E226F2BF-7A55-4610-9B4C-A9EF9FBBB024@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Hello "james":
> >> >> > I have an Intel Q6600 cpu on an Intel DG965WH board and the exact
> >> >> > same
> >> >> > thing happened to me. I tried the patch also with no help. I
> >> >> > replaced
> >> >> > 2
> >> >> > 1GB
> >> >> > RAM modules with 512MB for a total of 3 GB RAM and the pc now works
> >> >> > beautifully. I'm sure if I spent hours and hours seeking a solution
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > problem of 4GB on Vista Ultimate, I might find the perfect solution
> >> >> > but
> >> >> > I'm
> >> >> > happy with 3GB's performance. I don't think your problem is with
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > memory
> >> >> > either. More likely the O.S./motherboard/RAM combination not
> >> >> > working
> >> >> > together as they should. I have yet to see a store ad for a
> >> >> > Quadcore
> >> >> > pc
> >> >> > with
> >> >> > 4 GBs RAM.....they always advertise 3 GBs. Could be to hold down
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > price
> >> >> > or could be the same problem we have seen with 4GBs!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > xiowan..........in tucson
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "james" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> To increase performance in pc i decided to upgrade from 2GB to 4GB
> >> >> >> but
> >> >> >> after
> >> >> >> start the computer and logging in i was having some performance
> >> >> >> issues
> >> >> >> which
> >> >> >> i had not had before and my proccessor (Q6600) was at 35%
> >> >> >> constantly.
> >> >> >> i
> >> >> >> updated my subscore and found that i had gone from 4.4 with 2GB to
> >> >> >> 1.6
> >> >> >> with
> >> >> >> 4GB also games that i could play before now have appaling frame
> >> >> >> rates.
> >> >> >> I am using 64-bit visita
> >> >> >> the RAM is matching 4x1GB 800mhz
> >> >> >> oh, and i have installed the visit 64-bit patch that is supposed to
> >> >> >> deal
> >> >> >> with it
> >> >>
> >>

>
 
Re: RAM problems

I got stable operation with 4 x 2GB of DDR2-6400 ram by setting the bios to
run it at 667MHz instead of the default 800 MHz. With an Intel 6850 cpu
which has a 1333 MHz bus, the performance difference between ram running at
full 800 MHz speed and reduced to 667 MHz speed was negligible. I'm guessing
that's because 667 MHz is 1:1 synchronous with the 1333 MHz processor bus
(one is quad-speed and one is double speed, so the basic bus in both cases
is 333 MHz).

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:B1ED866E-8F18-4CEB-846D-7961AA8543E5@microsoft.com...
>I am using 3x2GB pc6400 in one box and seeing 6143mb of ram. The fourth
>stick prevents Windows from loading. The performance difference between
>3GB and 6GB on this box is dramatic in terms of hard drive activity. That
>4th GB in your system would make a difference, believe me.
>
> "xiowan" <xiowan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:20F834AC-5AC0-4409-A95D-703853CEFCC3@microsoft.com...
>> Hello "Colin":
>> Thanks for the info! Wish I had read of that issue sooner. I just
>> purchased 4 512MB sticks of DDR2 800 Mhz RAM to get down to 3 GB on my 2
>> Vista pcs! I have 4 leftover 1GB sticks of DDR2 667Mhz I used before
>> switching to Vista but don't think I will go to the expense of buying 2
>> 2GB
>> sticks of DDR2 800 Mhz to see if they will work with my board and Vista.
>> Both Vista PCs are working beautifully with just 3 GB of 800 Mhz although
>> the
>> Task Mgr is showing Vista as using close to all of the memory but it
>> would
>> probably show the same result if I doubled the memory LOL! I wish Intel
>> had
>> warned of this issue before I purchased 3 motherboards they said
>> supported 4
>> GBs of DDR2 800 Mhz RAM. I was very careful to research everything about
>> the
>> board, including any possible memory issues and am disappointed that I
>> won't
>> be able to use the boards as planned.
>>
>> xiowan........in tucson
>>
>>
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>>
>>> You are correct. It is the combination. pc6400 ram seems to be the
>>> type
>>> associated with this. Try pc5300 ram if you can and see. The issue
>>> appears
>>> to arise with a stick of pc6400 ram in the fourth dimm slot. It is not
>>> the
>>> amount of ram (it happens with 2GB sticks as well). If you want 4GB of
>>> pc6400, use a pair of 2GB sticks and you will be fine.
>>>
>>> "xiowan" <xiowan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:E226F2BF-7A55-4610-9B4C-A9EF9FBBB024@microsoft.com...
>>> > Hello "james":
>>> > I have an Intel Q6600 cpu on an Intel DG965WH board and the exact
>>> > same
>>> > thing happened to me. I tried the patch also with no help. I
>>> > replaced 2
>>> > 1GB
>>> > RAM modules with 512MB for a total of 3 GB RAM and the pc now works
>>> > beautifully. I'm sure if I spent hours and hours seeking a solution
>>> > to
>>> > the
>>> > problem of 4GB on Vista Ultimate, I might find the perfect solution
>>> > but
>>> > I'm
>>> > happy with 3GB's performance. I don't think your problem is with the
>>> > memory
>>> > either. More likely the O.S./motherboard/RAM combination not working
>>> > together as they should. I have yet to see a store ad for a Quadcore
>>> > pc
>>> > with
>>> > 4 GBs RAM.....they always advertise 3 GBs. Could be to hold down the
>>> > price
>>> > or could be the same problem we have seen with 4GBs!
>>> >
>>> > xiowan..........in tucson
>>> >
>>> > "james" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> To increase performance in pc i decided to upgrade from 2GB to 4GB
>>> >> but
>>> >> after
>>> >> start the computer and logging in i was having some performance
>>> >> issues
>>> >> which
>>> >> i had not had before and my proccessor (Q6600) was at 35% constantly.
>>> >> i
>>> >> updated my subscore and found that i had gone from 4.4 with 2GB to
>>> >> 1.6
>>> >> with
>>> >> 4GB also games that i could play before now have appaling frame
>>> >> rates.
>>> >> I am using 64-bit visita
>>> >> the RAM is matching 4x1GB 800mhz
>>> >> oh, and i have installed the visit 64-bit patch that is supposed to
>>> >> deal with it
 
Re: RAM problems

Yes, most of the buzz on the mobo forums on this topic involves discussion
of where to set the dram voltage to get 6400 down to a speed that works.

"Paul Shapiro" <paul@hideme.broadwayData.com> wrote in message
news:%23v0yaHSVIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>I got stable operation with 4 x 2GB of DDR2-6400 ram by setting the bios to
>run it at 667MHz instead of the default 800 MHz. With an Intel 6850 cpu
>which has a 1333 MHz bus, the performance difference between ram running at
>full 800 MHz speed and reduced to 667 MHz speed was negligible. I'm
>guessing that's because 667 MHz is 1:1 synchronous with the 1333 MHz
>processor bus (one is quad-speed and one is double speed, so the basic bus
>in both cases is 333 MHz).
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:B1ED866E-8F18-4CEB-846D-7961AA8543E5@microsoft.com...
>>I am using 3x2GB pc6400 in one box and seeing 6143mb of ram. The fourth
>>stick prevents Windows from loading. The performance difference between
>>3GB and 6GB on this box is dramatic in terms of hard drive activity. That
>>4th GB in your system would make a difference, believe me.
>>
>> "xiowan" <xiowan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:20F834AC-5AC0-4409-A95D-703853CEFCC3@microsoft.com...
>>> Hello "Colin":
>>> Thanks for the info! Wish I had read of that issue sooner. I just
>>> purchased 4 512MB sticks of DDR2 800 Mhz RAM to get down to 3 GB on my 2
>>> Vista pcs! I have 4 leftover 1GB sticks of DDR2 667Mhz I used before
>>> switching to Vista but don't think I will go to the expense of buying 2
>>> 2GB
>>> sticks of DDR2 800 Mhz to see if they will work with my board and Vista.
>>> Both Vista PCs are working beautifully with just 3 GB of 800 Mhz
>>> although the
>>> Task Mgr is showing Vista as using close to all of the memory but it
>>> would
>>> probably show the same result if I doubled the memory LOL! I wish Intel
>>> had
>>> warned of this issue before I purchased 3 motherboards they said
>>> supported 4
>>> GBs of DDR2 800 Mhz RAM. I was very careful to research everything
>>> about the
>>> board, including any possible memory issues and am disappointed that I
>>> won't
>>> be able to use the boards as planned.
>>>
>>> xiowan........in tucson
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>>>
>>>> You are correct. It is the combination. pc6400 ram seems to be the
>>>> type
>>>> associated with this. Try pc5300 ram if you can and see. The issue
>>>> appears
>>>> to arise with a stick of pc6400 ram in the fourth dimm slot. It is not
>>>> the
>>>> amount of ram (it happens with 2GB sticks as well). If you want 4GB of
>>>> pc6400, use a pair of 2GB sticks and you will be fine.
>>>>
>>>> "xiowan" <xiowan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:E226F2BF-7A55-4610-9B4C-A9EF9FBBB024@microsoft.com...
>>>> > Hello "james":
>>>> > I have an Intel Q6600 cpu on an Intel DG965WH board and the exact
>>>> > same
>>>> > thing happened to me. I tried the patch also with no help. I
>>>> > replaced 2
>>>> > 1GB
>>>> > RAM modules with 512MB for a total of 3 GB RAM and the pc now works
>>>> > beautifully. I'm sure if I spent hours and hours seeking a solution
>>>> > to
>>>> > the
>>>> > problem of 4GB on Vista Ultimate, I might find the perfect solution
>>>> > but
>>>> > I'm
>>>> > happy with 3GB's performance. I don't think your problem is with the
>>>> > memory
>>>> > either. More likely the O.S./motherboard/RAM combination not working
>>>> > together as they should. I have yet to see a store ad for a Quadcore
>>>> > pc
>>>> > with
>>>> > 4 GBs RAM.....they always advertise 3 GBs. Could be to hold down the
>>>> > price
>>>> > or could be the same problem we have seen with 4GBs!
>>>> >
>>>> > xiowan..........in tucson
>>>> >
>>>> > "james" wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> To increase performance in pc i decided to upgrade from 2GB to 4GB
>>>> >> but
>>>> >> after
>>>> >> start the computer and logging in i was having some performance
>>>> >> issues
>>>> >> which
>>>> >> i had not had before and my proccessor (Q6600) was at 35%
>>>> >> constantly. i
>>>> >> updated my subscore and found that i had gone from 4.4 with 2GB to
>>>> >> 1.6
>>>> >> with
>>>> >> 4GB also games that i could play before now have appaling frame
>>>> >> rates.
>>>> >> I am using 64-bit visita
>>>> >> the RAM is matching 4x1GB 800mhz
>>>> >> oh, and i have installed the visit 64-bit patch that is supposed to
>>>> >> deal with it

>
 
Re: RAM problems

I left the voltage at the standard 1.8. I would expect lower ram speed to
always work at default voltage? Maybe some ram is programmed for higher
voltage at its default speed, and when you switch to manual control you have
to manually specify higher than default voltage? Some utilities show the
ram's SPD programming. I use Lavalys Everest which shows the programmed
timings and the current actual timings. It also displays a value for ram
voltage, which I assume is the current ram voltage.

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:60B029A0-8448-47E3-8421-221530341405@microsoft.com...
> Yes, most of the buzz on the mobo forums on this topic involves discussion
> of where to set the dram voltage to get 6400 down to a speed that works.
>
> "Paul Shapiro" <paul@hideme.broadwayData.com> wrote in message
> news:%23v0yaHSVIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>I got stable operation with 4 x 2GB of DDR2-6400 ram by setting the bios
>>to run it at 667MHz instead of the default 800 MHz. With an Intel 6850 cpu
>>which has a 1333 MHz bus, the performance difference between ram running
>>at full 800 MHz speed and reduced to 667 MHz speed was negligible. I'm
>>guessing that's because 667 MHz is 1:1 synchronous with the 1333 MHz
>>processor bus (one is quad-speed and one is double speed, so the basic bus
>>in both cases is 333 MHz).
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:B1ED866E-8F18-4CEB-846D-7961AA8543E5@microsoft.com...
>>>I am using 3x2GB pc6400 in one box and seeing 6143mb of ram. The fourth
>>>stick prevents Windows from loading. The performance difference between
>>>3GB and 6GB on this box is dramatic in terms of hard drive activity.
>>>That 4th GB in your system would make a difference, believe me.
>>>
>>> "xiowan" <xiowan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:20F834AC-5AC0-4409-A95D-703853CEFCC3@microsoft.com...
>>>> Hello "Colin":
>>>> Thanks for the info! Wish I had read of that issue sooner. I just
>>>> purchased 4 512MB sticks of DDR2 800 Mhz RAM to get down to 3 GB on my
>>>> 2
>>>> Vista pcs! I have 4 leftover 1GB sticks of DDR2 667Mhz I used before
>>>> switching to Vista but don't think I will go to the expense of buying 2
>>>> 2GB
>>>> sticks of DDR2 800 Mhz to see if they will work with my board and
>>>> Vista.
>>>> Both Vista PCs are working beautifully with just 3 GB of 800 Mhz
>>>> although the
>>>> Task Mgr is showing Vista as using close to all of the memory but it
>>>> would
>>>> probably show the same result if I doubled the memory LOL! I wish
>>>> Intel had
>>>> warned of this issue before I purchased 3 motherboards they said
>>>> supported 4
>>>> GBs of DDR2 800 Mhz RAM. I was very careful to research everything
>>>> about the
>>>> board, including any possible memory issues and am disappointed that I
>>>> won't
>>>> be able to use the boards as planned.
>>>>
>>>> xiowan........in tucson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You are correct. It is the combination. pc6400 ram seems to be the
>>>>> type
>>>>> associated with this. Try pc5300 ram if you can and see. The issue
>>>>> appears
>>>>> to arise with a stick of pc6400 ram in the fourth dimm slot. It is
>>>>> not the
>>>>> amount of ram (it happens with 2GB sticks as well). If you want 4GB
>>>>> of
>>>>> pc6400, use a pair of 2GB sticks and you will be fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> "xiowan" <xiowan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:E226F2BF-7A55-4610-9B4C-A9EF9FBBB024@microsoft.com...
>>>>> > Hello "james":
>>>>> > I have an Intel Q6600 cpu on an Intel DG965WH board and the exact
>>>>> > same
>>>>> > thing happened to me. I tried the patch also with no help. I
>>>>> > replaced 2
>>>>> > 1GB
>>>>> > RAM modules with 512MB for a total of 3 GB RAM and the pc now works
>>>>> > beautifully. I'm sure if I spent hours and hours seeking a solution
>>>>> > to
>>>>> > the
>>>>> > problem of 4GB on Vista Ultimate, I might find the perfect solution
>>>>> > but
>>>>> > I'm
>>>>> > happy with 3GB's performance. I don't think your problem is with
>>>>> > the
>>>>> > memory
>>>>> > either. More likely the O.S./motherboard/RAM combination not
>>>>> > working
>>>>> > together as they should. I have yet to see a store ad for a
>>>>> > Quadcore pc
>>>>> > with
>>>>> > 4 GBs RAM.....they always advertise 3 GBs. Could be to hold down
>>>>> > the
>>>>> > price
>>>>> > or could be the same problem we have seen with 4GBs!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > xiowan..........in tucson
>>>>> >
>>>>> > "james" wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> To increase performance in pc i decided to upgrade from 2GB to 4GB
>>>>> >> but
>>>>> >> after
>>>>> >> start the computer and logging in i was having some performance
>>>>> >> issues
>>>>> >> which
>>>>> >> i had not had before and my proccessor (Q6600) was at 35%
>>>>> >> constantly. i
>>>>> >> updated my subscore and found that i had gone from 4.4 with 2GB to
>>>>> >> 1.6
>>>>> >> with
>>>>> >> 4GB also games that i could play before now have appaling frame
>>>>> >> rates.
>>>>> >> I am using 64-bit visita
>>>>> >> the RAM is matching 4x1GB 800mhz
>>>>> >> oh, and i have installed the visit 64-bit patch that is supposed to
>>>>> >> deal with it

>>

>
 
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