Hangs During Shutdown

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What should I try when Win98 SE shuts down to the "Windows Is Shutting
down" logo screen and just sits there? I end up turning off the computer
manually.

Thanks!
Scott
 
Re: Hangs During Shutdown

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:26:17 -0600, Scott <golden@uslink.net> wrote:

>What should I try when Win98 SE shuts down to the "Windows Is Shutting
>down" logo screen and just sits there? I end up turning off the computer
>manually.
>
>Thanks!
>Scott

Try Start > Run and enter Msconfig. Under General > Advanced disable
Fast Shutdown. 98 SE has a shutdown timing problem and that usually
fixes it. There is also a Shutdown supplement for SE but there have
been problems reported on some systems with it. If Disable Fast
Shutdown is ghosted then you already have the supplement.

If not see these:
Startup and Shutdown Problems
http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/#Computer

Try #2 and # 6.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
 
Re: Hangs During Shutdown

I had this problem a few years ago and the solution for me was to make a
desktop shortcut. I have not had a shutdown problem since. This is the
article I used as a reference for making the shortcut.
http://aumha.org/win4/a/shutcut.htm



"Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:26:17 -0600, Scott <golden@uslink.net> wrote:
>
> >What should I try when Win98 SE shuts down to the "Windows Is Shutting
> >down" logo screen and just sits there? I end up turning off the
computer
> >manually.
> >
> >Thanks!
> >Scott
>
> Try Start > Run and enter Msconfig. Under General > Advanced disable
> Fast Shutdown. 98 SE has a shutdown timing problem and that usually
> fixes it. There is also a Shutdown supplement for SE but there have
> been problems reported on some systems with it. If Disable Fast
> Shutdown is ghosted then you already have the supplement.
>
> If not see these:
> Startup and Shutdown Problems
> http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/#Computer
>
> Try #2 and # 6.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bill Watt
> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
>
 
Re: Hangs During Shutdown


Hi,

I used those for awhile, both shutdown and restart. As I recall
using them does not rebuild the ShelliconCache if it's needed, so I
discontinued using them.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
___________________________________________________

On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:04:04 -0600, "kayjay" <kjanon@anon.com>
wrote:

>I had this problem a few years ago and the solution for me was to make a
>desktop shortcut. I have not had a shutdown problem since. This is the
>article I used as a reference for making the shortcut.
>http://aumha.org/win4/a/shutcut.htm
>
>
>
>"Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message
>news:mpndp35c2rek6fm4ka5pfdlultts0icqt9@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:26:17 -0600, Scott <golden@uslink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >What should I try when Win98 SE shuts down to the "Windows Is Shutting
>> >down" logo screen and just sits there? I end up turning off the
>computer
>> >manually.
>> >
>> >Thanks!
>> >Scott
>>
>> Try Start > Run and enter Msconfig. Under General > Advanced disable
>> Fast Shutdown. 98 SE has a shutdown timing problem and that usually
>> fixes it. There is also a Shutdown supplement for SE but there have
>> been problems reported on some systems with it. If Disable Fast
>> Shutdown is ghosted then you already have the supplement.
>>
>> If not see these:
>> Startup and Shutdown Problems
>> http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/#Computer
>>
>> Try #2 and # 6.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Bill Watt
>> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
>>
>
 
Re: Hangs During Shutdown

I've always thought of the commands as useful in special situations, but not
good for normal use. Probably from long ago discussions in this very group,
eh Bill?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message
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>
> Hi,
>
> I used those for awhile, both shutdown and restart. As I recall
> using them does not rebuild the ShelliconCache if it's needed, so I
> discontinued using them.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bill Watt
> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
> ___________________________________________________
>
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:04:04 -0600, "kayjay" <kjanon@anon.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I had this problem a few years ago and the solution for me was to make a
>>desktop shortcut. I have not had a shutdown problem since. This is the
>>article I used as a reference for making the shortcut.
>>http://aumha.org/win4/a/shutcut.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>"Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message
>>news:mpndp35c2rek6fm4ka5pfdlultts0icqt9@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:26:17 -0600, Scott <golden@uslink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> >What should I try when Win98 SE shuts down to the "Windows Is Shutting
>>> >down" logo screen and just sits there? I end up turning off the
>>computer
>>> >manually.
>>> >
>>> >Thanks!
>>> >Scott
>>>
>>> Try Start > Run and enter Msconfig. Under General > Advanced disable
>>> Fast Shutdown. 98 SE has a shutdown timing problem and that usually
>>> fixes it. There is also a Shutdown supplement for SE but there have
>>> been problems reported on some systems with it. If Disable Fast
>>> Shutdown is ghosted then you already have the supplement.
>>>
>>> If not see these:
>>> Startup and Shutdown Problems
>>> http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/#Computer
>>>
>>> Try #2 and # 6.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Bill Watt
>>> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
>>>
>>
>
 
Re: Hangs During Shutdown


Gary, that's right, in this very group, long ago. ;-)
That's when I stopped using them.
I kinda miss the old days.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
_________________________________________________

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:21:42 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:

>I've always thought of the commands as useful in special situations, but not
>good for normal use. Probably from long ago discussions in this very group,
>eh Bill?
>
>--
>Gary S. Terhune
>MS-MVP Shell/User
>www.grystmill.com
>
>"Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message
>news:a4rip3tjkss26m1g2da6jtolsuiu3hn303@4ax.com...
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I used those for awhile, both shutdown and restart. As I recall
>> using them does not rebuild the ShelliconCache if it's needed, so I
>> discontinued using them.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Bill Watt
>> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
>> ___________________________________________________
>>
>> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:04:04 -0600, "kayjay" <kjanon@anon.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I had this problem a few years ago and the solution for me was to make a
>>>desktop shortcut. I have not had a shutdown problem since. This is the
>>>article I used as a reference for making the shortcut.
>>>http://aumha.org/win4/a/shutcut.htm

SNIP
 
Re: Hangs During Shutdown

"Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message
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>
> Gary, that's right, in this very group, long ago. ;-)
> That's when I stopped using them.
> I kinda miss the old days.


<heh> Welcome to the club.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:21:42 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
>
>>I've always thought of the commands as useful in special situations, but not
>>good for normal use. Probably from long ago discussions in this very group,
>>eh Bill?
>>
>>--
>>Gary S. Terhune
>>MS-MVP Shell/User
>>www.grystmill.com
>>
>>"Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message
>>news:a4rip3tjkss26m1g2da6jtolsuiu3hn303@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I used those for awhile, both shutdown and restart. As I recall
>>> using them does not rebuild the ShelliconCache if it's needed, so I
>>> discontinued using them.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Bill Watt
>>> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
>>> ___________________________________________________
>>>
>>> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:04:04 -0600, "kayjay" <kjanon@anon.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I had this problem a few years ago and the solution for me was to make a
>>>>desktop shortcut. I have not had a shutdown problem since. This is the
>>>>article I used as a reference for making the shortcut.
>>>>http://aumha.org/win4/a/shutcut.htm
>
> SNIP
>
 
Re: Hangs During Shutdown

I'd say, "Me, too!", but my brain isn't up to it these days.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
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> "Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message
> news:2cblp3t9olmbf6e27ct4q44s19hdvav3rv@4ax.com...
>>
>> Gary, that's right, in this very group, long ago. ;-)
>> That's when I stopped using them.
>> I kinda miss the old days.
>
>
> <heh> Welcome to the club.
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.net/
> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>
>
>> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:21:42 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
>>
>>>I've always thought of the commands as useful in special situations, but
>>>not
>>>good for normal use. Probably from long ago discussions in this very
>>>group,
>>>eh Bill?
>>>
>>>--
>>>Gary S. Terhune
>>>MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>www.grystmill.com
>>>
>>>"Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message
>>>news:a4rip3tjkss26m1g2da6jtolsuiu3hn303@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I used those for awhile, both shutdown and restart. As I recall
>>>> using them does not rebuild the ShelliconCache if it's needed, so I
>>>> discontinued using them.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Bill Watt
>>>> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
>>>> ___________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:04:04 -0600, "kayjay" <kjanon@anon.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I had this problem a few years ago and the solution for me was to make
>>>>>a
>>>>>desktop shortcut. I have not had a shutdown problem since. This is
>>>>>the
>>>>>article I used as a reference for making the shortcut.
>>>>>http://aumha.org/win4/a/shutcut.htm
>>
>> SNIP
>>
>
 
Re: Hangs During Shutdown

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| I'd say, "Me, too!", but my brain isn't up to it these days.

Uhuh! I almost became unconscious trying to determine what you meant
by...!...

news:uNCzBd8XIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
.....Quote.......
In my book, periodic scans with both apps are insensible, just in case
real-time protection or passive blocking apps fail top do the job.
.....EOQ.........

But you meant "indispensible!"

| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
| news:e15412FYIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|> "Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message
|> news:2cblp3t9olmbf6e27ct4q44s19hdvav3rv@4ax.com...
|>>
|>> Gary, that's right, in this very group, long ago. ;-)
|>> That's when I stopped using them.
|>> I kinda miss the old days.
|>
|>
|> <heh> Welcome to the club.
|> --
|> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
|> http://dts-l.net/
|> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
|>
|>
|>> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:21:42 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
|>>
|>>>I've always thought of the commands as useful in special
|>>>situations, but not
|>>>good for normal use. Probably from long ago discussions in this very
|>>>group,
|>>>eh Bill?
|>>>
|>>>--
|>>>Gary S. Terhune
|>>>MS-MVP Shell/User
|>>>www.grystmill.com
|>>>
|>>>"Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message
|>>>news:a4rip3tjkss26m1g2da6jtolsuiu3hn303@4ax.com...
|>>>>
|>>>> Hi,
|>>>>
|>>>> I used those for awhile, both shutdown and restart. As I recall
|>>>> using them does not rebuild the ShelliconCache if it's needed, so
|>>>> I discontinued using them.
|>>>>
|>>>> Regards,
|>>>>
|>>>> Bill Watt
|>>>> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information
|>>>> http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
|>>>> ___________________________________________________
|>>>>
|>>>> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:04:04 -0600, "kayjay" <kjanon@anon.com>
|>>>> wrote:
|>>>>
|>>>>>I had this problem a few years ago and the solution for me was to
|>>>>>make a
|>>>>>desktop shortcut. I have not had a shutdown problem since.
|>>>>>This is the
|>>>>>article I used as a reference for making the shortcut.
|>>>>>http://aumha.org/win4/a/shutcut.htm
|>>
|>> SNIP

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
Re: Hangs During Shutdown

I rest my case!

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:uXTrXhIYIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> | I'd say, "Me, too!", but my brain isn't up to it these days.
>
> Uhuh! I almost became unconscious trying to determine what you meant
> by...!...
>
> news:uNCzBd8XIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> ....Quote.......
> In my book, periodic scans with both apps are insensible, just in case
> real-time protection or passive blocking apps fail top do the job.
> ....EOQ.........
>
> But you meant "indispensible!"
>
> | --
> | Gary S. Terhune
> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | www.grystmill.com
> |
> | "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
> | news:e15412FYIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> |> "Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message
> |> news:2cblp3t9olmbf6e27ct4q44s19hdvav3rv@4ax.com...
> |>>
> |>> Gary, that's right, in this very group, long ago. ;-)
> |>> That's when I stopped using them.
> |>> I kinda miss the old days.
> |>
> |>
> |> <heh> Welcome to the club.
> |> --
> |> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> |> http://dts-l.net/
> |> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
> |>
> |>
> |>> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:21:42 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
> |>>
> |>>>I've always thought of the commands as useful in special
> |>>>situations, but not
> |>>>good for normal use. Probably from long ago discussions in this very
> |>>>group,
> |>>>eh Bill?
> |>>>
> |>>>--
> |>>>Gary S. Terhune
> |>>>MS-MVP Shell/User
> |>>>www.grystmill.com
> |>>>
> |>>>"Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message
> |>>>news:a4rip3tjkss26m1g2da6jtolsuiu3hn303@4ax.com...
> |>>>>
> |>>>> Hi,
> |>>>>
> |>>>> I used those for awhile, both shutdown and restart. As I recall
> |>>>> using them does not rebuild the ShelliconCache if it's needed, so
> |>>>> I discontinued using them.
> |>>>>
> |>>>> Regards,
> |>>>>
> |>>>> Bill Watt
> |>>>> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information
> |>>>> http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
> |>>>> ___________________________________________________
> |>>>>
> |>>>> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:04:04 -0600, "kayjay" <kjanon@anon.com>
> |>>>> wrote:
> |>>>>
> |>>>>>I had this problem a few years ago and the solution for me was to
> |>>>>>make a
> |>>>>>desktop shortcut. I have not had a shutdown problem since.
> |>>>>>This is the
> |>>>>>article I used as a reference for making the shortcut.
> |>>>>>http://aumha.org/win4/a/shutcut.htm
> |>>
> |>> SNIP
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
>
 
Re: Hangs During Shutdown

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| I rest my case!

OK, then. And I'll try to remember where you've left it. OK, bye.

| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:uXTrXhIYIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
|> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
|> | I'd say, "Me, too!", but my brain isn't up to it these days.
|>
|> Uhuh! I almost became unconscious trying to determine what you meant
|> by...!...
|>
|> news:uNCzBd8XIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
|> ....Quote.......
|> In my book, periodic scans with both apps are insensible, just in
|> case real-time protection or passive blocking apps fail top do the
|> job. ....EOQ.........
|>
|> But you meant "indispensible!"
|>
|> | --
|> | Gary S. Terhune
|> | MS-MVP Shell/User
|> | www.grystmill.com
|> |
|> | "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
|> | news:e15412FYIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|> |> "Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message
|> |> news:2cblp3t9olmbf6e27ct4q44s19hdvav3rv@4ax.com...
|> |>>
|> |>> Gary, that's right, in this very group, long ago. ;-)
|> |>> That's when I stopped using them.
|> |>> I kinda miss the old days.
|> |>
|> |>
|> |> <heh> Welcome to the club.
|> |> --
|> |> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
|> |> http://dts-l.net/
|> |> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
|> |>
|> |>
|> |>> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:21:42 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune" <none>
|> |>> wrote:
|> |>>
|> |>>>I've always thought of the commands as useful in special
|> |>>>situations, but not
|> |>>>good for normal use. Probably from long ago discussions in this
|> |>>>very group,
|> |>>>eh Bill?
|> |>>>
|> |>>>--
|> |>>>Gary S. Terhune
|> |>>>MS-MVP Shell/User
|> |>>>www.grystmill.com
|> |>>>
|> |>>>"Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message
|> |>>>news:a4rip3tjkss26m1g2da6jtolsuiu3hn303@4ax.com...
|> |>>>>
|> |>>>> Hi,
|> |>>>>
|> |>>>> I used those for awhile, both shutdown and restart. As I recall
|> |>>>> using them does not rebuild the ShelliconCache if it's needed,
|> |>>>> so I discontinued using them.
|> |>>>>
|> |>>>> Regards,
|> |>>>>
|> |>>>> Bill Watt
|> |>>>> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information
|> |>>>> http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
|> |>>>> ___________________________________________________
|> |>>>>
|> |>>>> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:04:04 -0600, "kayjay" <kjanon@anon.com>
|> |>>>> wrote:
|> |>>>>
|> |>>>>>I had this problem a few years ago and the solution for me was
|> |>>>>>to make a
|> |>>>>>desktop shortcut. I have not had a shutdown problem since.
|> |>>>>>This is the
|> |>>>>>article I used as a reference for making the shortcut.
|> |>>>>>http://aumha.org/win4/a/shutcut.htm
|> |>>
|> |>> SNIP

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
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