Odd Icon during log off.

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I'm running Vista Ultimate 64 and switched from Pegasus Mail (latest)
to Thunderbird for email for various reasons (I miss Peggy but it's no
longer usable for me, sigh.)

I've removed Pegasus via the add/remove thingy <- sorry to get so
techy!) and also deleted all the Pegasus mail files on the partition
where they were kept (after importing all the mail messages, of course)
but I still see a Pegasus Icon in the systray during shutdown or log
off.

The Pegasus Icon in the systray normally appears only when Pegasus Mail
is opened and minimized so that may be a clue?

What have I failed to remove? It's not a problem but it does indicate
that I probably have other Pegasus files around somewhere. I have done
a search through the registry and through the usual search application
with no results.

One other question, why are the icons in the systray different during
log off/shut down than they are during normal running and where in the
@$^#$ ARE those icons located?

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RE: Odd Icon during log off.

Hi,
There might be a service/process running in the background.
Press Shift-Ctrl-Esc to bring up TaskManager and check the processes tab.
You might find some Pegasus thingy there.
I would also press Winkey+R, services.msc <ENTER> and see if there is any
Pegasus service there.
Carlos

"XS11E" wrote:

> I'm running Vista Ultimate 64 and switched from Pegasus Mail (latest)
> to Thunderbird for email for various reasons (I miss Peggy but it's no
> longer usable for me, sigh.)
>
> I've removed Pegasus via the add/remove thingy <- sorry to get so
> techy!) and also deleted all the Pegasus mail files on the partition
> where they were kept (after importing all the mail messages, of course)
> but I still see a Pegasus Icon in the systray during shutdown or log
> off.
>
> The Pegasus Icon in the systray normally appears only when Pegasus Mail
> is opened and minimized so that may be a clue?
>
> What have I failed to remove? It's not a problem but it does indicate
> that I probably have other Pegasus files around somewhere. I have done
> a search through the registry and through the usual search application
> with no results.
>
> One other question, why are the icons in the systray different during
> log off/shut down than they are during normal running and where in the
> @$^#$ ARE those icons located?
>
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RE: Odd Icon during log off.

Carlos <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> There might be a service/process running in the background.
> Press Shift-Ctrl-Esc to bring up TaskManager and check the
> processes tab. You might find some Pegasus thingy there.

That would have been nice but no luck.

> I would also press Winkey+R, services.msc <ENTER> and see if there
> is any Pegasus service there.

Again, no luck. Thanks.



> "XS11E" wrote:
>
>> I'm running Vista Ultimate 64 and switched from Pegasus Mail
>> (latest) to Thunderbird for email for various reasons (I miss
>> Peggy but it's no longer usable for me, sigh.)
>>
>> I've removed Pegasus via the add/remove thingy <- sorry to get so
>> techy!) and also deleted all the Pegasus mail files on the
>> partition where they were kept (after importing all the mail
>> messages, of course) but I still see a Pegasus Icon in the
>> systray during shutdown or log off.
>>
>> The Pegasus Icon in the systray normally appears only when
>> Pegasus Mail is opened and minimized so that may be a clue?
>>
>> What have I failed to remove? It's not a problem but it does
>> indicate that I probably have other Pegasus files around
>> somewhere. I have done a search through the registry and through
>> the usual search application with no results.
>>
>> One other question, why are the icons in the systray different
>> during log off/shut down than they are during normal running and
>> where in the @$^#$ ARE those icons located?


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RE: Odd Icon during log off.

Hello,
Try running msinfo32.
Look under software environment
Look at the items under:
Running Tasks
Loaded Modules
Services
Startup Programs
Look for any reference to Pegasus.

The icon is probably embedded in an Executable or in a DLL that is loaded.
once you find a reference to that file, you would need to search the
regisry by that name for entries that may point to it.

Thanks,
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

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|> Carlos <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
|>
|> > There might be a service/process running in the background.
|> > Press Shift-Ctrl-Esc to bring up TaskManager and check the
|> > processes tab. You might find some Pegasus thingy there.
|>
|> That would have been nice but no luck.
|>
|> > I would also press Winkey+R, services.msc <ENTER> and see if there
|> > is any Pegasus service there.
|>
|> Again, no luck. Thanks.
|>
|>
|>
|> > "XS11E" wrote:
|> >
|> >> I'm running Vista Ultimate 64 and switched from Pegasus Mail
|> >> (latest) to Thunderbird for email for various reasons (I miss
|> >> Peggy but it's no longer usable for me, sigh.)
|> >>
|> >> I've removed Pegasus via the add/remove thingy <- sorry to get so
|> >> techy!) and also deleted all the Pegasus mail files on the
|> >> partition where they were kept (after importing all the mail
|> >> messages, of course) but I still see a Pegasus Icon in the
|> >> systray during shutdown or log off.
|> >>
|> >> The Pegasus Icon in the systray normally appears only when
|> >> Pegasus Mail is opened and minimized so that may be a clue?
|> >>
|> >> What have I failed to remove? It's not a problem but it does
|> >> indicate that I probably have other Pegasus files around
|> >> somewhere. I have done a search through the registry and through
|> >> the usual search application with no results.
|> >>
|> >> One other question, why are the icons in the systray different
|> >> during log off/shut down than they are during normal running and
|> >> where in the @$^#$ ARE those icons located?
|>
|>
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RE: Odd Icon during log off.

Darrellg@online.microsoft.com ("Darrell Gorter[MSFT]") wrote:

> Hello,
> Try running msinfo32.
> Look under software environment
> Look at the items under:
> Running Tasks
> Loaded Modules
> Services
> Startup Programs
> Look for any reference to Pegasus.

Thanks but there's nothing there that I can find, I've been through it
several times over the last two days.

> The icon is probably embedded in an Executable or in a DLL that is
> loaded. once you find a reference to that file, you would need to
> search the regisry by that name for entries that may point to it.

There's nothing in the registry that I can find that relates to
Pegasus. Remember, it's not a running process or task, it appears ONLY
during logoff or shutdown.



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Re: Odd Icon during log off.

XS11E wrote:
> There's nothing in the registry that I can find that relates to
> Pegasus. Remember, it's not a running process or task, it appears ONLY
> during logoff or shutdown.

Not *everything* is in the registry... Or, it may indeed be in the
registry but hidden under layers of redirection. I would also give
autoruns a shot. and possibly process monitor, which can do logging even
during boot times.

Beyond that, you'll have to use debugging tools like spy++ etc... to
show hidden windows and the like.

~JasonG

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Re: Odd Icon during log off.

Jason Gurtz <jasonNOgurtz@npuSPAMmail.com> wrote:

> XS11E wrote:
>> There's nothing in the registry that I can find that relates to
>> Pegasus. Remember, it's not a running process or task, it
>> appears ONLY during logoff or shutdown.
>
> Not *everything* is in the registry... Or, it may indeed be in
> the registry but hidden under layers of redirection. I would also
> give autoruns a shot. and possibly process monitor, which can do
> logging even during boot times.
>
> Beyond that, you'll have to use debugging tools like spy++ etc...
> to show hidden windows and the like.

I've officially given up on it, it's only a minor annoyance and it's
taken much too much time so far.

Where ever it is, it's pretty well hidden.

Thanks to all who offered suggestions, they've all been good but I've
tried them all and it's no longer worth the time. I could have
formatted the HD and re-installed from scratch in about the time I've
spent on this so it's time to learn to live with it!


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Re: Odd Icon during log off.

One more thing, though - something running in the background doesn't have to
have a recognizable name, you could try and disable the handfull of services
(one at a time) that you don't recognize as belonging to: what else it is
that you have installed there?


Tony. . .


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> Jason Gurtz <jasonNOgurtz@npuSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>
>> XS11E wrote:
>>> There's nothing in the registry that I can find that relates to
>>> Pegasus. Remember, it's not a running process or task, it
>>> appears ONLY during logoff or shutdown.
>>
>> Not *everything* is in the registry... Or, it may indeed be in
>> the registry but hidden under layers of redirection. I would also
>> give autoruns a shot. and possibly process monitor, which can do
>> logging even during boot times.
>>
>> Beyond that, you'll have to use debugging tools like spy++ etc...
>> to show hidden windows and the like.
>
> I've officially given up on it, it's only a minor annoyance and it's
> taken much too much time so far.
>
> Where ever it is, it's pretty well hidden.
>
> Thanks to all who offered suggestions, they've all been good but I've
> tried them all and it's no longer worth the time. I could have
> formatted the HD and re-installed from scratch in about the time I've
> spent on this so it's time to learn to live with it!
>
>
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Re: Odd Icon during log off.

"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbmail.dk> wrote:

> One more thing, though - something running in the background
> doesn't have to have a recognizable name, you could try and
> disable the handfull of services (one at a time) that you don't
> recognize as belonging to: what else it is that you have installed
> there?

There are bunches of services running, if I disabled them one at a time
I don't know if I'd find anything or not since it's not a running
service (except at log off) but I do know it would take a very long
time to go through them all.

It's probably worth a try when I have more time to mess with it,
though, so thanks for the thought.



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Re: Odd Icon during log off.

You might try with a Clean Boot to isolate whether or not it is a third
party or MS service or program.

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> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbmail.dk> wrote:
>
>> One more thing, though - something running in the background
>> doesn't have to have a recognizable name, you could try and
>> disable the handfull of services (one at a time) that you don't
>> recognize as belonging to: what else it is that you have installed
>> there?
>
> There are bunches of services running, if I disabled them one at a time
> I don't know if I'd find anything or not since it's not a running
> service (except at log off) but I do know it would take a very long
> time to go through them all.
>
> It's probably worth a try when I have more time to mess with it,
> though, so thanks for the thought.
>
>
>
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Re: Odd Icon during log off.

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:

> You might try with a Clean Boot to isolate whether or not it is a
> third party or MS service or program.

Geez, Colin, I've never thought of doing that! I'll try it tonight,
thanks.


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Re: Odd Icon during log off.

You're welcome.

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> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> You might try with a Clean Boot to isolate whether or not it is a
>> third party or MS service or program.
>
> Geez, Colin, I've never thought of doing that! I'll try it tonight,
> thanks.
>
>
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Re: Odd Icon during log off.

It's true there is quite a lot to wade through, but there is help to be had,
nearly everything will be system related - only some are 'tricky', but
you're right, you do need to have the time. If you want to investigate, I
have a long time favorite site:

http://www.blackviper.com/

here you can pick up on much of the mysteries that goes with the services.
Every single Windows Service is listed (as far as I can tell) and can safely
be skipped in your ordeal.


Tony. . .


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> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbmail.dk> wrote:
>
>> One more thing, though - something running in the background
>> doesn't have to have a recognizable name, you could try and
>> disable the handfull of services (one at a time) that you don't
>> recognize as belonging to: what else it is that you have installed
>> there?
>
> There are bunches of services running, if I disabled them one at a time
> I don't know if I'd find anything or not since it's not a running
> service (except at log off) but I do know it would take a very long
> time to go through them all.
>
> It's probably worth a try when I have more time to mess with it,
> though, so thanks for the thought.
>
>
>
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