Pushing Buttons

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Something that's bothered me for years and I wondered if anyone could
shed some light:

Not infrequently when I use the mouse to push a screen "button", I'm
perhaps a bit sloppy, the button-push isn't seen and I have to do it
again more carefully ...

..... and yet, sloppy or not, I actually *see* the button depress. Thus
Windows sure as heck knows I pushed it so why doesn't it respond? It's
almost like pushing a button on the TV remote and not pressing hard
enough. Surely Windows buttons aren't pressure-sensitive.


This kind of reminds me of a problem I used to have in Win3X days where
a double-click wouldn't take. After messing with the double-click speed
to no avail I finally learned that there was a config file entry related
to the amount of movement of the mouse between clicks - and that fixed
the problem completely. I wondered if there was perhaps a registry entry
related to what I'm seeing here.
 
Re: Pushing Buttons


"Sid Elbow" <here@there.com> wrote in message
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> Something that's bothered me for years and I wondered if anyone could shed
> some light:
>
> Not infrequently when I use the mouse to push a screen "button", I'm
> perhaps a bit sloppy, the button-push isn't seen and I have to do it again
> more carefully ...
>
> .... and yet, sloppy or not, I actually *see* the button depress. Thus
> Windows sure as heck knows I pushed it so why doesn't it respond? It's
> almost like pushing a button on the TV remote and not pressing hard
> enough. Surely Windows buttons aren't pressure-sensitive.
>
>
> This kind of reminds me of a problem I used to have in Win3X days where a
> double-click wouldn't take. After messing with the double-click speed to
> no avail I finally learned that there was a config file entry related to
> the amount of movement of the mouse between clicks - and that fixed the
> problem completely. I wondered if there was perhaps a registry entry
> related to what I'm seeing here.

Might be something as simple as a mouse with a bad
button contact. Use a different mouse for a few weeks -
they're cheap! It might also be that you move the mouse
slightly just before you press the button. Depending on
where you are, this won't work.
 
Re: Pushing Buttons

Pegasus (MVP) wrote:

> Might be something as simple as a mouse with a bad
> button contact. Use a different mouse for a few weeks -
> they're cheap!

No, it's happened on a couple of mice on this machine and on several
machines.


>It might also be that you move the mouse
> slightly just before you press the button. Depending on
> where you are, this won't work.

I think this is the most likely cause - my mouse technique. I think I
move the mouse slightly as I click. In Win3X (and perhaps Win9x) there
was a config entry that would make it more tolerant of this. I wondered
if something similar existed in the registry for Win2K but I've never
been able to track anything down doing internet searches.

(Plus, I still feel that if Windows responds by showing the button
depressing it's giving me feedback that it saw the button-push).
 
Re: Pushing Buttons

On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:51:50 -0500, Sid Elbow <here@there.com>
wrote:

>>Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
>>
>>> Might be something as simple as a mouse with a bad
>>> button contact. Use a different mouse for a few weeks -
>>> they're cheap!
>>
>>No, it's happened on a couple of mice on this machine and on several
>>machines.
>>
>>
>>>It might also be that you move the mouse
>>> slightly just before you press the button. Depending on
>>> where you are, this won't work.
>>
>>I think this is the most likely cause - my mouse technique. I think I
>>move the mouse slightly as I click. In Win3X (and perhaps Win9x) there
>>was a config entry that would make it more tolerant of this. I wondered
>>if something similar existed in the registry for Win2K but I've never
>>been able to track anything down doing internet searches.
>>
>>(Plus, I still feel that if Windows responds by showing the button
>>depressing it's giving me feedback that it saw the button-push).


Not completely sure about Win2K, but I think there was a window to
adjust the mouse in Tweakui v1.33 from Microsoft. Be sure and get
the 1.33 version, 'cause the 2.10.0.0 version is strictly for WinXP.
You can download a copy here:
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/tweakui

and from the annoyances.org web site:
<quote>
Windows Me, Windows 2000, Windows 98, and Windows 95

1. Download TweakUI (version 1.33).

2. Unzip tweakui.zip using an unzip utility, such as WinZip, and
place the files in a new folder in a convenient location, such as
your desktop.

3. Right-click on the tweakui.inf file and select Install to
install it on your system.

4. To start TweakUI, double-click the TweakUI icon in Control
Panel.

Note: there's a bug in this installer (it's been there since the
very first release, except for the new version for Windows XP). If
it prompts you to insert a disk or specify the location of the
Tweakui files, just point to the folder containing the files you
just unzipped, and click Ok.
<\quote>

HTH


--

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Re: Pushing Buttons

If you "click and drag", but don't move far enough for the button to
relocate to a new destination, you will see the "button" depress and
nothing happens on release, except the "button" returns to the original
location. In other words, "by design".

Sid Elbow wrote:

> Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
>
>> Might be something as simple as a mouse with a bad
>> button contact. Use a different mouse for a few weeks -
>> they're cheap!
>
>
> No, it's happened on a couple of mice on this machine and on several
> machines.
>
>
>> It might also be that you move the mouse
>> slightly just before you press the button. Depending on
>> where you are, this won't work.
>
>
> I think this is the most likely cause - my mouse technique. I think I
> move the mouse slightly as I click. In Win3X (and perhaps Win9x) there
> was a config entry that would make it more tolerant of this. I wondered
> if something similar existed in the registry for Win2K but I've never
> been able to track anything down doing internet searches.
>
> (Plus, I still feel that if Windows responds by showing the button
> depressing it's giving me feedback that it saw the button-push).
 
Re: Pushing Buttons

The Seabat wrote:

> Not completely sure about Win2K, but I think there was a window to
> adjust the mouse in Tweakui v1.33 from Microsoft. Be sure and get
> the 1.33 version,

I have tweakui and had already looked in there. Doesn't seem anything
that would be related to this particular problem. There is a
double-click speed sensitivity setting but button-push involves only a
single click (I just used my previous win3 experience as an example of
the "hidden" settings in config files),
 
Re: Pushing Buttons

Bob I wrote:
> If you "click and drag", but don't move far enough for the button to
> relocate to a new destination, you will see the "button" depress and
> nothing happens on release, except the "button" returns to the original
> location. In other words, "by design".

Yes, that seems logical. But in that case, it would also be logical to
have a sensitivity setting buried somewhere. Particularly as I'm not
deliberately dragging and, if I'm accidentally doing so, it's by a tiny
amount.
 
Re: Pushing Buttons

Perhaps, but just a guess.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\DragHeight
and
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\DragWidth



Sid Elbow wrote:

> Bob I wrote:
>
>> If you "click and drag", but don't move far enough for the button to
>> relocate to a new destination, you will see the "button" depress and
>> nothing happens on release, except the "button" returns to the
>> original location. In other words, "by design".
>
>
> Yes, that seems logical. But in that case, it would also be logical to
> have a sensitivity setting buried somewhere. Particularly as I'm not
> deliberately dragging and, if I'm accidentally doing so, it's by a tiny
> amount.
 
Re: Pushing Buttons

Bob I wrote:
> Perhaps, but just a guess.
>
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\DragHeight
> and
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\DragWidth

Thanks, Bob .... I'll play with them.
 
Re: Pushing Buttons

Hi,

Any chance you're sliding the arrow off the button before releasing it?
Pushing buttons down doesn't activate the commands, releasing the mouse
does.


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Re: Pushing Buttons

PA20Pilot wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Any chance you're sliding the arrow off the button before releasing it?
> Pushing buttons down doesn't activate the commands, releasing the mouse
> does.
>
>
> ---==X={}=X==---
>
> Jim Self

Well, I'm certainly not completely sliding off but it's quite likely
that I am moving the mouse a little before releasing in which case
BobI's suggestion may help. I've actually doubled the DragHeight and
DragWidth values and I'll run with it for a while and see if it improves.
 
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